Ashes Of Creation | Best Upcoming PvX MMORPG

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Nyce Gaming

Nyce Gaming

Ай бұрын

Upcoming MMO Ashes Of Creation recently released footage of what players can expect with its Node Wars. This stream displayed PvP of course between two nodes. However, with this being a PvX game, I wanted to put emphasis on something I didn't see a lot of people discussing. That being the potential of non pvp activities contributing to the war effort so that players with varying styles or preferences can make a difference outside of the normal combat exchanges. Lets explore the potential and impact of this.
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@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Comment potential node war types you’d like to see 👀 Live on Twitch: twitch.tv/nycegamingtv Discord: discord.gg/EsfdACR7J9 Ashes Of Creation Voices Of Verra Discord: discord.gg/tNHaDmqgTz
@sevenddeadly
@sevenddeadly Ай бұрын
No sneaking around with the sound of those dragon wings...
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
@glennmiller5772
@glennmiller5772 Ай бұрын
@Nyce-Gaming i would like to see them do something more intuitive with player collision. Perhaps keeping collision to a minimum yet having something like active blocking broadening your collision and different weapons having further increasing it and then shield’s giving you even more. This might create something like a shield wall effect that tanks could block zergs from pushing through but if they are not blocking players might easily squeeze through
@allthatishere
@allthatishere Ай бұрын
I really dig what I saw in the showcase. It reminded me of the PvX you see in GW2's World vs World. Attacking npc supply lines, etc.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Even more fun than straight up just killing
@af6756
@af6756 Ай бұрын
In production since 1999 - releasing in 2050
@glennmiller5772
@glennmiller5772 Ай бұрын
Or for a more realistic and accurate evaluation …production started in 2017 and will be finished in 2027-8. Long development sure but its also not backed by the richest humans and established companies on the planet so it is what it is.
@whoismatthewyoung
@whoismatthewyoung Ай бұрын
been playing new world lately, the oprs have been kinda fun brother would love to see ya out there cheers!
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
I’m going to peep the June announcement. If it’s something that will drive up population or was worth the developers going radio silent, then I’ll log back in. I really do miss the game
@whoismatthewyoung
@whoismatthewyoung Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming That's hella funny that they were hush hush about a console release, rip
@whoismatthewyoung
@whoismatthewyoung Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming it's been a pleasure playing with you my g, the news was no bueno
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
@@whoismatthewyoung yea . The silence wasn’t warranted. Tho I feel the console cross play will help population
@CatSnievans
@CatSnievans Ай бұрын
Sneaking around with camouflage as a ranger allowed me to get the rubies back to our camp quite safely!
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Big brain strategy!
@CatSnievans
@CatSnievans Ай бұрын
Hell yeah, haha! I saw another ranger camouflaged while mining the rubies was quite funny watching the rubies explode with no one there
@konkats-tg7pf
@konkats-tg7pf Ай бұрын
1)war between nodes with common borders or can be declaired by distant nodes? 2)if war is optional, needs citizens vote, war will be taken place only between mega alliances (like throne&liberty) and in prime time? zergfest! somehow devs should give some love to smallscale 3) some ground effects overtuned(the one with the lava, the one with the ice where ground freezes, green multiarrow animation) for my taste but not a deal breaker
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
1) Typically it should be with further away nodes or rather nodes not shared in the same vassal network if I recall. 2) Yea small scale roles im sure will be found. Maybe during this node war we could sneak around the back lines to flank their reinforcements and/or stop them from returning to their camp with the pve mats 3) Yea they acknowledged in this stream that vfx are still a work in progress and will be toned down/adjusted soon luckily
@DoingFavors
@DoingFavors Ай бұрын
The potential options for node wars in the future allowing more than just PvP players to join in and help are amazing. Hopefully it doesn't only boil down to "Zerg the godspike" at the end of all of them.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Yea that’s not as fun. Maybe for a military node haha
@a.c.7539
@a.c.7539 Ай бұрын
Soo, you're telling me that I need to be rouge 😈 Noted.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Yes rogue doing side objectives sounds BIS
@WildFyreAshes
@WildFyreAshes Ай бұрын
Welcome to the brotherhood 😂😂
@WildFyreAshes
@WildFyreAshes Ай бұрын
If i hear a wardrum pop off, a caravan pull up, and steven talking about, " protect the payload!!" These ninjas will assemble like the overwatch initiative !! Leeeets goooooo
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
@beowningu4669
@beowningu4669 Ай бұрын
Economic or divine war type named “call of the kingdom”. Nodes are challenged by the gods to bring materials to their altars. If node refuses to participate or victory node collects a high enough percentage of any gatherable resources the losing node gets gold or other valuable siphoned out of the treasury. If it’s an amiable competition winner takes all that was gathered and the gods transmute it into gold for them to show their favor!
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Yessss! This the stuff I’m talking about
@eternaldarkness3139
@eternaldarkness3139 Ай бұрын
"First there's the Ewwws and the Awwws. Later there's the... the running... and the uhhh... screaming..." --Ian Malcolm Lots of stuff for PvE players to do.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 26 күн бұрын
Idky KZfaq held this comment for review but here we are
@eternaldarkness3139
@eternaldarkness3139 26 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming I should probably try to sound more like a Bot, and change my Avatar to a woman in panties. Those never seem to get blocked. PS: Great stream last night. I mean... It is truly an awe-inspiring time to witness such informative channels like this one.❤💯👍🎉 🤣
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 26 күн бұрын
@@eternaldarkness3139 lol true and thanks! 🫡
@BaxxyNut
@BaxxyNut Ай бұрын
lmao, Losestead. Love it. Everything should be renamed so we can make jokes
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
lol I want it changed officially at this point lol
@heartless_gamer
@heartless_gamer Ай бұрын
Curious how this just doesn't get meta gamed/abused by the tryhard guilds. I suspect a good number of the playerbase will be outside looking in on this.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Nope it’s open to the entire node to take part in. Even a solo can contribute. Surely there will be a guild with a large group defending and running a group, but this operates as a system to encompass the entire node, but anyone can show up with their own groups, goals , and objectives. I feel the guild war system will be very similar to this. I can’t really foresee abuse with the system
@acecard1013
@acecard1013 Ай бұрын
Also wondering how they will combat large guilds taking over entire servers and coordinating with mayors
@TheToledoTrumpton
@TheToledoTrumpton Ай бұрын
@@acecard1013 Guilds don't own nodes, the citizens of a node do, and there is no way for a guild to monopolize citizenship of a node.
@bminturn
@bminturn Ай бұрын
Hold up. Is a war a timed event, or is it persistent?
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Timed . Maybe a week but we don’t know (this is different from node sieges)
@sk8legendz
@sk8legendz Ай бұрын
It looks like new world Eso and Wow combined
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
I like this summary / take on visuals
@TheToledoTrumpton
@TheToledoTrumpton Ай бұрын
There are some very significant differences to those 3 in gameplay though. This is not a character based theme park RPG MMO. It is closer to a 4x game, in the way it works. It just doesn't have that Godlike character playing the Civ or faction. The Citizens of a node decide the course of that node by their collective actions, with a transient mayor/ruler that has some (but not many) leadership abilities. You can specialize as a worker, or a warrior, but you are not going to get far without a mix of all types, producing resources and defending you from barbarians and other players. If your node doesn't have an iron resource on it, then you will want to capture a neighboring node to secure the resource, so you can defend yourself better and grow your city/node. PvP and PvE are only indirectly connected to improving your character, as you have to level up your city/node, before you can get better gear, and more augments making you more powerful. And we still don't really know how a Scientific Node helps "Science", compared to a Religious Node helping "Religion" (for example) and the merits of either. Are you better going for a Scientific node/victory or a Religious node/victory and how do they differ? I would characterize this as a MMO4x as opposed to an MMOrpg.
@goateeguyreviews9663
@goateeguyreviews9663 Ай бұрын
Is this game action combat or tab target?
@philwaugh9095
@philwaugh9095 Ай бұрын
Hybrid of both. Soft lock tab will be what's used most by ranged. Action will be mostly used by melee. But you really have options to use whichever you prefer.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Hybrid. A little bit of both. This far the melee oriented archetypes seem pure action and ranged archetypes are tab. You also have the option of an action camera similar to what throne and liberty and guild wars 2 offer
@konkats-tg7pf
@konkats-tg7pf Ай бұрын
tab target looks like aim assist in fps games to me
@snekkers1609
@snekkers1609 Ай бұрын
im from miraleth and i feel offended that you didnt wish me nice day
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Hey yall had your nice day. LOSEstead needed a pick me up after their horrible defeat tbf
@SpadeofAce007
@SpadeofAce007 Ай бұрын
What does PVX mean? Pls
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Easiest way to look at it is as PvPvE. Games or scenarios where you’re not only dealing with just npcs/adds/bosses but also the threat of players as well simultaneously. A very fun concept especially considering how different one approaches an AI opponent vs another player. Makes for some interesting gameplay
@SpadeofAce007
@SpadeofAce007 Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming ok these are literally ny favorite games. Any suggestions on which to play? Including this one. Or is this one the ONE ?
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
@@SpadeofAce007 is the one I’m waiting on. But there’s a couple of MMOs that lightly touch on pvx, but no modern ones that have it as a core identifier like aoc will. I’ve been playing Albion online which has some potential in it. ESO’s imperial city. New worlds opr supposedly does but that’s a stretch. WoW may have some on pvp servers 🤔
@SpadeofAce007
@SpadeofAce007 Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming amazing information. Thank you very much.
@shockwave6091
@shockwave6091 Ай бұрын
What mobile game is this?
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
I get you’re trying to insult the game or dislike its visuals, but mobile game is a bit of a stretch
@shockwave6091
@shockwave6091 Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming wait what I wanna know cause it looks amazing 😑
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
@@shockwave6091 but it’s not mobile unfortunately 😩 it’s in the title however . Ashes Of Creation
@shockwave6091
@shockwave6091 Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming :( sad I game on the move well I keep waiting for wow mobile in 2 weeks
@baseddlite7306
@baseddlite7306 Ай бұрын
is this game ever actually going to come out lol
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
A2 which last through launch is about 3 months out. Full release wise my guess is like 2 years-ish
@baseddlite7306
@baseddlite7306 Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming not bad good to see an estimate been following for awhile
@Heathcliff-Aincrad
@Heathcliff-Aincrad Ай бұрын
First for all, AoC is not a pve game under PvX; because the main focus is pvp and if you don't want to get ganged randomly while doing pve, you need to love pvp first. I have a question about Node War system which there are two groups which sees each other as reds and greens as opposing teams. Node war flag system is kind of similar to Archeage guild wars but the 3rd party was able to heal the actual guild wars flagged group thy support (and of course if the fight happens at pk'able maps thy attack the other group even thy get criminal points in the game, or thy use skills to trap others or prevent other group with any means with absurd tactics), or in Lineage 2 castle siege, the 3rd party players are able to pk other players in the attacking group which is count as pk kill and you were getting karma points. These are the main real problems of these two games when a 3rd party decides to support one side. Thus, is it the case for AoC too? I might miss it from the long video, thank you.
@DoingFavors
@DoingFavors Ай бұрын
It's a PvX game. If you enjoy PvE and PvP as a whole you can enjoy this PvX game. If you only enjoy PvP you will not progress well in Ashes, if all you do is focus on PvP, you will fall behind dramatically. Even if all you do is focus on Caravan runs, you will not be able to PvP alone and keep up. If you flag for PvP and go red, you get massive debuffs that eventually cripple your chracter, that route isn't viable either. How is the main focus PvP again?
@Heathcliff-Aincrad
@Heathcliff-Aincrad Ай бұрын
@@DoingFavors all videos I watch at AoC, thy always say that this game is mainly for pvp, even from the recent videos with guests (I guess that thy are all saying lies according to you). In Archeage you need to do pve and potato farming trade runs to make gold, unless you do RMT which AoC will have this problem too where RMT players gear up so fast and focus on PVP only to ruin other players. I played Archeage for 7 years, Lineage 2 for 10 years, and yes these games were PvX and sandbox elements etc but all the main focus was pvp which ruined the gameplay of many after some time; because of the reasoning below. Even in Archeage or Lineage 2, if you cannot win pvp fight against zerg or geared players you are marked as potato player because tab target games are based on zerg and who has better gear to own all the main end game contents. In Lineage 2 or Archeage, thy just keep you pk to keep away from the slot and pk guy does not bother to be flagged as red or purple, thy use their main characters or loging to 2nd, 3rd etc characters to do it. It was kind of same for Archeage too. Thus, what is the difference in Ashes of Creation? there will be sure quests or farming mobs to lower your karma points for sure. The concerns I have mentioned in my 1st comment is still same where Lineage 2 had that kind of massive nerfs on the character when you pk another player etc but it did not affect the main goal when thy target other party to help the main party, it was same for Archeage too. Node war flag system is kind of similar to Archeage guild wars but the 3rd party was able to heal the actual guild wars flagged group thy support (and of course if the fight happens at pk'able maps thy attack the other group even thy get criminal points in the game, or thy use skills to trap others or prevent other group with any means with absurd tactics), or in Lineage 2 castle siege, the 3rd party players are able to pk other players in the attacking group which is count as pk kill and you were getting karma points. These are the main real problems of these two games when a 3rd party decides to support one side. Thus, is it the case for AoC too?
@glennmiller5772
@glennmiller5772 Ай бұрын
So im probably not the best to answer this but i do, with all that kind of see your question lol. Basically if you are a citizen of a node you will be flagged to the attacker. Anyone that is not a citizen from either side will appear in the world as any other random player you would encounter in the world. So what is to stop none involved/flagged players from jumping in the middle of your battles to simply muddy the waters and cause you to unintentionally PK none combatant players and rack up the negative effects of murdering ppl. Honestly i have no clue how they are going to address that issue.
@alchemist9905
@alchemist9905 Ай бұрын
AOC 2077 !
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Such a unique comment! Thank you!
@alchemist9905
@alchemist9905 Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming welcome, see you 2076 for the final beta
@EasYMoON1991
@EasYMoON1991 Ай бұрын
Game good, design shit, western design of Armour sucks. Unlucky.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
😟 whattt i love the armor designs. The ones in this stream were perhaps bare minimal but looking into a lot of their in game and cash shop cosmetics, they are quite impressive imo
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming Ай бұрын
Though I’m sure this is low level 15 armor
@glennmiller5772
@glennmiller5772 Ай бұрын
Im actually a big fan of barbaric armor styles. The whole conquistador full body medieval knight stuff is kinda lame imo but i really hate that BDO eastern anime armor style. Maybe they should just give lots of options and mix it all together?
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