“A game should make you want to waste your time, not waste your time.” Golden.

Asmon has got to be one of my favourite guests on this show. He's way more intelligent and articulate than people give him credit for.

To imagine Asmon's mom passed away like half a year after this interview.. after having talked so open about his worry about his parents. That really hit.

I hope there is a third episode with Asmon. I feel like he’s such an important Internet personality that these episodes are so valuable to so many people.

"If i could sit in my room playing videogames, eating cheetos and doing nothing for another 1000 years I would do it" Confirmed, Asmongold is at least 1000 years old.

Zack is probably my favorite guest. He is well-spoken, smart, and his fears and problems are very relateable to me

This hits different now. Love Asmongold, he has so much integrity and wisdom. All the respect in the world to him, I hope he’s getting through his mom’s passing okay.

Asmon is like a time capsule that captured the good parts adolescence: not worrying about school or life stressors, getting to let go and go explore the unknown and hang out with your friends. The ritual of plugging into a video game was a bigger deal as you did not have a pocket computer that hacks your dopamine loops all day. For me I feel like I am back with my friends when I hear him talk. Also I feel like he is kind of living the story of Andy from Toy Story. He had a really great run, so many adventures and stories with his games, and now he is realizing that he needs to say goodbye to these things that he loves if he wants to move on to his next stage in life. A bittersweet change of priorities.

"If i could sit in my room playing videogames, eating cheetos and doing nothing for another 1000 years I would do it" Amen

Heraclitus, a Greek philosopher born in 544 B.C. said, “No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.”

"The whole world around me changed. I didn't." More relatable words (to me) has seldom been spoken. I'm 33 and everything is changing but I'm the same.

Zack fucking gets it, man. I'm in the same place as him in so many ways. 32, male, avid gamer. Yearning for brotherhood of days long past. Fearing getting old and ceasing to exist for as long as I can remember as I came up around religions I never believed. Having these fears stoked as I helped my mom take care of my grandparents as they slowly lost their independence, their minds, and eventually their lives. Right down to the first time I saw my mom walking with a cane and shame about my teeth, Zack gets it and that just makes me feel better . . . even if neither one of us has figured it out yet. Gives me hope that at least one of us will.

"Can I sit with that for a minute?"...I think we should normalize saying this before responding to all kinds of things.

when the realization hits that asmon basically does all of this online out of fear of his mom passing. all of this was for her all along. wholesome as fuck. love asmon

I definitely understand where zack is coming from when it comes to not enjoying games as much now. I feel it's more of gaming companies focusing more on revenue than actually making great games more so than getting older.

This honestly brought me to tears. These are vulnerable things that he was willing to share. I’m happy that this part of KZfaq exists

Asmongold, you will never be irrelevant if you just be yourself. You have so many fans and supporters that just want to hear you talk even more than we want to watch you play games. As long as Internet exists there will ALwAYS be a demand and need for Zach. You are a blessing to the gaming world, a blessing to me, and a blessing to your mom. Much love to everyone reading this

The genuine reaction of comfort after he said “I don’t think you look bad at all”. I think that’s something he needs & deserves to hear more often.

That moment when Asmongold was getting emotional telling that story about his friend drawing the dragon and meeting him. I could feel that emotion rising in him. I'm starting to understand more of what Dr. K means.

Man, Zack telling his mom that he’d bring her to church because it meant something to her hit me hard. Almost brought a tear to my eye.

Really got me when zack started talking about his parents , he’s a good man and I wish nothing but the absolute best for him

i love zac. hes smart, self aware but always open minded. usually intellects like his close off help or new perspectives but he is constantly accepting new truths and realizations about his life. thank you both for this episode

All I have to say is that Asmon is a real one people. No entitlement, no bias, no anything. Open minded, well versed, intelligent and ready to hear your side but, also be ready to hear his. The pressure, stress, anxiety and I'm sure the list goes on that he has felt over the course of his life by experiencing hardship after hardship has turned him into a diamond in the rough in a world of people that couldn't care less of anything. Very honored to enjoy his content and appreciate that a person like him with such an enormous outreach exists. The world needs more Asmon's!

This is a straight up hardcore therapy session and Asmon is a real G for doing this.

I didn’t realize how much some of these things bothered him, I feel kind of bad for all the balding jokes. An hour and a half in and this has been utterly fascinating! I’m so grateful that Zack is sharing this with us, he’s such a good man.

The hardest part of growing up, is realizing your parents are growing older.

I did not expect to follow the entire 2 hours through when opening this video, but hot damn if this isn't amazing to listen to. Great questions, great railroading of the conversation, focusing on the important parts, managing it all to stay coherent and being respectful, I'd love to have a therapist like this. And Zack being open as he is about everything, showing it's okay to feel, even if it's difficult. Beautiful video, I really hope more people will watch this.

I had this exact same feeling when I turned 30! I described it as an “early-life crisis” I saw it as completing an open world game, and then just running around the game world with nothing left to do, but you’re stuck in the game. Super Mario 64: you collected all 120 stars and now you’re just stuck with nothing special left to do. In my case I achieved the house/girlfriend/child/economic stability/safety/contentment dream I was working towards, but then I was struggling to find the next mountain to climb. The fix for me was deciding to start working out, educating myself on everything I’ve struggled to understand previously, and trying to help other people in whatever way I can. Being the best version of myself before checking out 🤩

I don't know why KZfaq decided to start recommending me Asmongold videos this year, but damn am I glad they did. Despite how good his life and "job" may seem on paper, he never sugarcoats how he truly feels. Its a big reminder that no amount of fame or money can change the fact that were all just here temporarily. Shoutout to Asmongold for not being afraid to show vulnerability on a topic that most people would rather not confront

"There is an axis of suffering and contentment that is actually independent of happiness and sadness." Dang, that hit hard.

This was absolutely outstanding. EVERY SINGLE THING the Doc ended up on is a realization I arrived at after hitting the bottom from an addiction and divorce and then finding joy and accomplishment in raising my daughters while working as a health care aid. There’s LITERALLY nothing glamorous about where I am or where I’ve been, on the contrary it’s been insufferable…but as it stands, today I’ve never been happier and I’m 40 and have nothing but hope for everything. Thanks for sharing this chat. I sincerely believe it’ll help many people out of that pit.

Zack really feared of losing his mom, RIP.

Only 10 minutes in but this conversation so far is so chill I feel my blood pressure lowering

Zack, I was in tears almost the entire time I watched this. I've never been able to express my feelings on these topics and I feel like you've done it for me. It's good to know I'm not alone. That there are others out there who feel the way I do. I really thank you for sharing this and being open. I see you from a totally new and different view point and I'm so proud and just idk I cant describe the feeling I have after seeing this. Thank you.

Fucking hell my heart goes out to Asmond, that’s an insanely heartbreaking story to hear and I truly feel sorry for all the shit people have given him throughout his life

I really hope there's a pt 3 for this. Awesome awesome stuff Dr. K

YOO I WAS LITERALLY REWATCHING THE PREVIOUS DR. K VID WITH ASMONGOLD YESTERDAY I'M SO HAPPY

When Asmon talked about that dragon drawing, tears came down to my eyes because I felt the exact same feelings of good old days with the boys never coming back.

I love how he shared his story on stream. I’m not as old as he is but my health has been declining recently and i never had to worry about death really until now, my anxiety surrounding it is way worse, and i feel the same way he does about my great aunt. Me and him are a bit similar in that way i think. This has been therapeutic for me, thank you so much zach, and thank you for being so brave

My quick take as a gamer my entire life: When I find myself apathetic towrds gaming, that is a red flag that I am becoming or have become depressed. It isn't the game, nor my age; when I stop taking enjoyment from my greatest hobbies that is a problem with ME - directing that outward is a way to mask and avoid the issue Anyways, thats my truth, your milage may vary

I don't think Asmond looks weird or bad doing this. If anything it was a very Brave thing to do.

Asmon cares deeply about WOW and his mother and his fear is that he has no control over their fates. Both are "dying" and he is stuck in the middle of it. The reason he has felt bad the last 2 years is because he is beginning to believe that wow is coming to an end. The scare with his mothers medicine that happened during the Texas freeze also reminded him that he has limited control over things and that his mother is getting older and is more vulnerable. He needs to appreciate the moments he had with both of them and come to terms with their deaths. I think Asmon is becoming stronger due to this slow death of wow and hopefully he is able to bounce back and find a new game that he can love again. The day Asmons mom dies will be a very difficult day for Asmon. Hopefully he is strong enough to make it through that. You cant control many things in life but you can control how to move on past the death of something and start something new. I hope he moves out of her house after and builds a new future for himself instead of staying in that house in misery.

For the fear of death there was one saying by a Greek philosopher (I forgot his name but I remember the saying) when asked do you fear death, he said: "Why would I be scared of something that can't exist at the same time as I do? If it exists, I don't. If I exist, it doesn't."

I am dealing with exactly the same problems, this has helped me a lot too. I know is not about me...but watching you guys talk made me realise a lot of things. Thank you for sharring and being open about things.

Taking a wild guess I think the journey with OTK will bring him more joy than seeing the company itself having success. Hearing him reminiscing about the good old days with his boys really highlights that one of the things that has been missing in his life has been doing something cool together with a group of close friends. And damnit that's so relatable!

"It's sad that all of those examples you gave of good games are from over ten years ago." OOOOOF

This is so relatable. I'm Glad I took the time to view it and im def sharing it with my therapist. Thank you guys for walking through this. 💕

Thanks for posting this! I loved every minute of it.

"Pride is not the opposite of Shame, but it's source. True humility is the only antidote to shame." -Uncle Iroh

"Your INT is at an 18, but I don't know where your WIS (wisdom) is" OMG beautifully put!

I resonated so deeply with this discussion. I feel like my life has been chasing success via reaching goals and each goal I hit the dopamine is lower and lower despite the prestige of the goal. I've told myself I'm chasing "happiness" but in the end happiness is always from within and I feel I know this but keep chasing those milestones. Really human discussion, very much appreciated the both of you so candidly sharing.

Aw man, excellent conversation! I am so grateful this is made available for us all. Would love a third episode!

Watching him instinctively cover his pain with laughter at 1:56:36 .... I felt that one, we have all been there.

It’s weird seeing these interviews. They are generally very informative but it very well feels like Dr. K is learning as much as people learn from Dr. K which is truly a sight to behold. That moment where Dr. K was trying to figure out how to get Asmon to talk emotionally and Asmon just does it and Dr. K goes “I don’t know what you did, but do it again” really shows his humanity in learning and experiencing life. This guy is one of the best psychologists for sure.

I stumbled into these long-form interviews through the YT algorithm this week, and I couldn't be more grateful. With each one, I am finding relatable feelings, thoughts and emotions, and Dr. K's interpretations are very useful.

This conversation should be showed to any up and coming therapist ! What a perfect conversation both consciously and unconsciously

Asmon is an absolute joy to listen to, i could watch him talk for hours. Had to go back and rewatch your first video with him before watching this, i love the dynamic you two seem to have. You're doing great work, Mr Healthy Gamer.

I always love asmons talks and the ones with dr k are always the best. Dudes incredibly intelligent but def has a lot on his plate

I'm not a gamer and not sure how I found you but I am so thrilled I did. The way you explain traumas, triggers and other things is done in a way that actually makes sense and get me to see things from a different perspective. Also no fluff which is refreshing! My son is a gamer and I told him about you, I hope he checks out your videos. Thank you so much for keeping it real in a world with far too much woowoo and fluff!

I appreciate this interview. So much to pull from it but the last bit really hit home for sure. You helped me to understand somethings in myself. I hit the same level of emotion going back to that moment. Recently getting to go back to my home town and really see it wasnt just a dream. I sat at the baseball diamond in town and watched ghost play, it was such a good reflection and something id give anything to go back too. Im not afraid of death or dying rather the people around me, their death reminds me of my finite time, but many times had slow mo and felt if this is it this is it. Anyways rambling but its ultimately refreshing to know that im/we;re not alone in this feeling and that their is a way to navigate or transcend that hill. I thought logic could take me there but maybe its going and feeling more of it, thinking of those specific moments. Been told I should speak with someone, but it wasnt until Dr.K laid out somethings that maybe its my wiring etc. Thanks for this ;)

Dr. K: What is it, rule 42? Asmon: 32 Me: They are still pure.

As someone who already absolutely loves Zack, this really gives me a deeper appreciation for who he is and why he is himself.

watched it for the 2nd time now, thanks for that conversation to you both ! 1000 % relatebale at least to my personal situation ! just gold ! 💓 Zach

Amazing work how you were able to pin down the internal struggle Zach is clearly having regarding his Mum - you gave him the tools to prepare for the inevitable AHEAD of time and it showed in his video talking about his mum. Dr K, you are doing Gods work!

the interviews with zack are phenomenal.

I keep getting distracted by my own inner monologue answering his questions as if he was interviewing me 😂

Holy shit this whole conversation hit home for me! Thank you Zach for being brave enough to put this out there! I have had to grapple with the fear of not being able to control death (not so much the fear of actually dying but the inability to control the chaos death often brings) due to death being around me in various ways throughout my entire life. I had a friend who died under questionable circumstances that were deemed as suicide. The circumstances pointed to them being killed but it was easier to call it a suicide as the scene was set up to have the appearance of. Followed by this friends brother, who was also my friend committing suicide. Also there were several cases of friends/peers dying due to violence committed by other peers (not friends). Death, and the inability to have any real control over it became a constant theme in which I would do all I could to be prepared for when it would inevitably come knocking on my door. The catalyst for my issues/trauma was being forced into a situation where I had to choose between protecting my life by ending another life. I did everything I could to escape the situation but ultimately I was forced to face the choice between having my life violently extinguished while a huge group of people gathered to watch as if it were some form of entertainment, or to do the unthinkable and become the instrument of death myself. The choice I made didn't feel as if I consciously made it but rather my body took over and I was just along for the ride. I ended up with awful PTSD and insomnia for years afterwards. I tried to see therapists but none of them ever talked like Dr. K, they always seemed to be condescending and unwilling to allow me to really "bat down" their interpretations of what I felt/experienced. Thus I have had to try to work through stuff on my own. I wish I had the opportunity to talk with someone like this. Its so strange to feel like this was so relatable even though our situations seem so different. Again thank you for being brave enough to put this out there. It may feel/have felt like doing so wouldn't have much impact, but this whole video has made me feel less broken/alone in my contemplating death in general. I apologize for the huge block of text but I truly felt compelled to say thank you and maybe let others know they too are not alone. There are those of us out there that have had to carry various baggage that we try to hide in the hopes of appearing "normal". Again, thank you

Thank you for this amazing episode! Zach is an amazing guest and your work is incredible!

Why can I relate so much? Wow I feel the exact way as Asmon does. It's like you look back to the past and see all the cool stuff and feeling you had while playing games or doing stuff and remembering the passion you had for it. You set yourself some great goals and after some time it feels like all slowly decays and if you look back a few years ago you see your old self and how happy you felt doing certain things and now you are trying to find something similar in the current time/the now but you can't find anything comparable or on the same level of passion or fun and you feel weird like getting old, like wasting your time. Oh wow I can so relate to that.

I absolutely love Asmon's honesty and openess. I'm so glad youtube recommended him recently. Hes helping me through some difficult stuff.

This is the best 2 hours I've ever seen of anything. So much relevance. I'm getting ready to start therapy next week and I can only hope they are half as capable as this man.

im really happy this showed up in my recommendations, a lot of conveyed feelings about mmo's today and just mental life of being in games where they're milking the entire community. just see a lot of myself in this guy honestly and this was eye opening. thank you.

"The Hermit... In solitude, he discovers the truth about himself and the world. From this he draws strength, his lantern cutting through the darkness." asmon brought this quote from cyberpunk to mind.

Love when you have Zack on. Such a genuine person.

This conversation was so helpful to me. Seeing someone else go through these talks just "clicks" with me.

About time you guys had him on again! June of last year was last time. Great conversation! 💚

I have never heard of this KZfaq, but I never knew I’d almost need it. I love the way the interview is set up. It’s the perfect mix of podcast and actual therapy for the viewers and the guest speaker. I loved this, and I’ll continue to watch more, thanks!

Such good content. Really happy the algorithm brought me to this channel. Good stuff.

You guys touched on so many great topics, thanks for the stream!

I watched some of this live and then watched each section spread across two days. Incredible interview/therapy session. It had its ups and downs in terms of emotion. It was so philosophical and existential yet also grounding and personable. One of the best pieces of “content” I’ve ever seen honestly. It made me feel good, made me think, and inspired me to be better. If I’m ever feeling down I’ll watch part of this video 100%. Zach needs to come on more often! So intelligent and well spoken especially when he’s with Dr. K. Loved it. Just loved it. Thank you healthy gamers!!

"I'm not afraid of dying, I'm just scared of not existing anymore", is how I feel honestly.

Asmon really turns into gold any interaction, loved the interview

he is so courageous for doing this and this is so noble of him to share. started following you today but damn man now im looking forward to meet you just after one day of following and yes he deff is such a great guy to say the least

im 30 now and was very similar to asmongold's view. Focusing on achievement, I would always have to find a new thing to work towards to keep me distracted or I would just feel bad. Since then what helped me is instead of eating fast and always thinking I have to accomplish something, I let that all go. I still work and try to achieve, but I don't put my value in success. I take my time to enjoy food, to live in the moment, to feel the wind and the sun. I look at who I am as a person and I know who I am. I value who I am and I like who I am, and I know I have faults and I am fine with my faults and each day I work on those and try to do less of my faults and more of what I value in myself. In this I have found peace. If you can find peace with who you are and focus on that instead of your surroundings and situation, then that happiness is hard to lose.

"you're waiting for the next thing to go wrong" that hits deep.

"It feels like there aren't as many good things to look forward to anymore." Thank you for expressing something I haven't been able to.

This is amazing, just found it now thanks to both of you.

This one was extremely insightful, it's scary in just how many ways I relate to Asmon's way of thinking. Keep doing what you do Dr.K!

This entire video hit me hard. I really appreciate the openness and depth that Asmon is willing to go and how real he can be at this point. There's a lot that is different in my life, obviously, but I relate to so much here.

Such a good conversation! Thanks for sharing.

Man this was so good. Thanks for sharing

Loved the last session with Zac, thanks for getting him on again, and i hope he's comming on latetr :)

sweet just refreshed my youtube n this popped up,let's go!

I know this is already 2 years ago but I just watched this session and must say: I really see a lot of pain and suffering in Asmond und could feel him a lot. I've read about the passing away of his mother and just hope, that he had/has some therapy and is fine. What a nice, relaxed and good-minded dude! I also really felt him talking about the good ol' days with the boys. We (nearly) all loved these days!

This was wayy more powerful than i was ready for.... Wow, asmon has some issues I know a LOT of people aslo have. Dr.k is seriously amazing at allowing someone to find their own path to their own emotions. Bravo

"she didnt want me to call the ambulance, because we couldnt afford it" wtf america :)

“The willing suspension of disbelief is removed and you’re just left there like a rat in a maze” This quote was spoken by: A.) Plato B.) Aristotle C.) A WOW streamer who complains a lot

bro i just found this colab, you guys are amazing

I can’t get over how much I love these talks. I’ve worked on my inner self a lot and have come to a realization in my career. As a chef one of the questions I get asked the most is “what’s your favorite dish to cook?” After many times of just blurting out the first thing that came to my head I thought about why I love cooking. I fell in love with the process. The experimentation, the tweaking of ingredients, sourcing the ingredients, cooking techniques. It’s all become the focus of my passion outside of work hours. I don’t like the final dish as much as I love the techniques and care used to put it together properly.

2027 - Asmon is a calisthenics athlete literal bodyweight god pull up champion and motivational speaker with an episode on the joe rogan podcast