oh cool, first reply

doc you're kinda 6 months late but oh well

Hey, that point at about 25mins where you were saying that the brain will attempt to fabricate a reason for an unknown reason to a conclusion. I don't recall ever experiencing that, if you ask me why I got the cookies I would say, "I saw the cookies and wanted them. I didn't come here for the cookies, but like, why not?" I may be misunderstanding the whole thing, but I feel like that isn't the conclusion phenomenon.

The beginning 1/4 of this starts touching on comparing both sides of Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.

Dr. K. sounds like he is or would be a fan of Jiddu Krishnamurti and his talks.

This definitely happened to me before lmao

lmao

Hahahaha

LMAOOO THE BRAIN JUICE HE WAS CONJURING IN THAT TIME THO

My video froze and I was painting so I didn't realize and kept looking up to his contemplating face thinking wow, he's really deep in thought. Hahaha

Hahahaha we found a loophole

Ok bill Clinton. "Define "is" "

@@Battlefox64_RL yimestamp

@@opanimu6989 my dyslexic brain read that as: Y I’m a…TIMESTAMP!?

He’s asked that to people before when they call it a show, he enthusiastically asks, “are we a show?!” I laugh every time hehe

Quoted incident at 1:31:30

@@sirprize5191 you are a good person

@@sirprize5191 absolute chad behavior

I was looking for someone else to notice and then 10 seconds later he says michael is "special needs" lmao

Yeah little miss speak but it seems like he got the point

followed by "i think youre a special needs kid"

I fucking died man

No joke dr seems like the guy who actually thinks that about people so he has a Freudian slip.

@O Z _ But he does do crack is what you're saying

@@ap92000 are you saying you're not doing crack? get on the trend bruv

@@sirkkusalomaa4644 AHAHAHAHA

@O Z _ Why would you think that he has tried crack cocaine?

@O Z _ He doesnt want to murder turtles, he just wants to kill them with plastic straw suffication

big facts

*It's the best marketing strategy ever* It's like putting Elon Musk in front of your business

Ez Af *Boomer Lily vs Zoomer Coomer 420 Michael*

Micheal reeves is the Gunna of the KZfaq industry? Or is gunna the Micheal reeves of the music industry

@@ezaf5989 How many times are you going to write the same thing? You seem to be overly focused on his acne in several comments here already, are you trying to beat out your own insecurities by focusing on something you deem as a negative on someone else?

What do you mean ?

@@racsofischer7601 OP is just poking fun at what Dr. K says just for fun. the way he phrases things to michael can sound hilarious out of context

He misspoke and said “i dont think your parents love you” he forgot to make it a double negative. And that broke the seriousness for a moment. And then he continues with the previpus topic of special needs. But because of that funny disruption it sounded very out of context making it also very funny 😂

@@bs0023 Yeah he meant "i dont think your parents dont love you". Thats what made Michael laugh that much.

Pog comment

Felt good being the 420'th like, also yeah Michael has an immense passion for learning it's actually amazing

@@oranellis or he’s just wittingly dodging the feeling of vulnerability.

I died at that part, the visible horror on Dr.K's face LMAO

@@creatineaddict por que no los dos

I can relate with Michael so much though, it’s such an interesting concept to consider

was searching for it. 😂

same energy as wilbur soot with his bananas during his rajjchelor

LMAO

lmao RIGHT?! i was just like hmm what will be next? You know

It’s a anxiety coping mechanism I do the same when I have meetings with people I make sure I have enough water to frequently sip on

A human scientist and a computer scientist

@@devagr Subtract scientist from both sides and we're left with a "A human and a computer"

@ziger subtract and from that and we are left with "a a"

Subtract a from that and we're left with

@@adronius147 Subtract

What a surprise

The comedy comes from "holy shit I'm just getting lower." Like imagine going to a harvard therapist and suddenly you're a special needs.

Sora! my favourite guy right here

Whoa Sora watches dr.k?!

Sora watches otv on the side hehe

Sora is the next “Some guy with a moustache”

Sora?

"Abso-fucking-lutely"

So fucking true

Yup

Swear words are just _p i z z a s e_

uhh, I just got to the first doctor f-bomb and had to see if there were comments. It feels so contrived and blatant when psychs do this. I have talked to several psychs through out the years and its always the young male ones that love to do this with certain types of clients (me and apparently michael reeves) and its soooo obvious they are doing it to try and connect with you. like they wouldn't have said it in a normal casual conversation outside of work but because I swear a lot they feel like they need to as well. I have no doubt this must be taught in every psych program ever. I don't dislike them for doing it, I've just only ever talked to one shrink who did it convincingly.

Ez Af *If acne makes a person not stable then idk what a person with a battle scar is then*

I'd say scarra and toast seem very stable too

@@ezaf5989 acne scars has nothing to do with being mentally stable or not jackass

@@omnoid toast i wouldn't have said so but recently he's getting really good, i've observed.

@@omnoid I doubt they do to the degree where Michael is just because of personality traits and "brain wiring" to call it somehow.

I think sometimes parents care, but care is different from love and sometimes you have parents who love and care for you but then theres parents that care for you but kinda just want you to be quiet and stay out of the way, then theres parents who love you but dont care what goes on, kinda like the neighborhood kid that you see outside all the time doing random shit but their parents get them everything they want I might have gotten mixed up cause i keep overthinking things lately

I think it was a missing word. I think they meant to say "I don't think your parents don't love you"

@@Michael-dj6pd that's exactly what he meant, which is why it's so funny haha

I KNEW IT, I could hear it in his voice... "Ohhh its just a tidbit of info..." from the guy who specializes in fucking with bodily functions with electrodes

Crack does that to you smh

It really do be like that

Relatable

I feel like that just leads to all the drinks getting to room-temp and going flat before you're halfway through any of them.

Christian Svendsen how tf does water go flat

You got likes thought I’d tell you

@@Nayhan123 you also got likes... Not a lot but still👍

Marvin animates so did u PogU

@@pb9405 Oh how the turns have tabled.

Time stamp?

lies and deceit to get more test subjects

Time stamp?

Timestamp is somewhere close to 1:20:00 for future

Also Michael: _Caveman Noises_

@@mosesracal6758 R O C K

I think ot is just bias towards Reeves as K sees alot of himself in Reeves.

Michael is so funny

25:48 *

yea exactly!! iwas like WHAAAT

Was looking for this comment xD

Man if only you knew Micheal doesn't give a fuck and didn't retain shit from this lmao you can tell how bad he wanted to leave 😂

@@Final_RPG You make it sound like you know what he's feeling lol. Michael quite literally said he thinks psychology is interesting. Showing signs of anxiety in a conversation with a person you don't know well isn't the same as 'not giving a fuck' or 'wanting to leave'

@@veravye You can still think it's interesting but not want to be be there lol what's your point

@@Final_RPG Bruh I think Micheal willingly came to the interview, do you seriously think basing off of his character that he plays in his channel would prove Micheal didn't care?

💀💀

I died when he goes "what is that" and Michael was just like nevermind.

1.10.55. "I am not saying that you are dumber than others.."

“We’ve been using diagrams??....” *anxiety intensifies*

Michael: ok... oh he can’t fucking hear me... *self-judgement intensifies*

Jeff B who said he must open up with all his shit? It’s not consultation as dr said. Why people wait he will cry and tell about all insecurities he has especially if they related to people he loves? People wait for the show and don’t care how Michael will live with it after. It was interesting and deep conversation. For people who think it gave some answers. People who like drama and feeling stuff laughed in some places. Maybe this is enough?

@@SoGoodToBeReal I feel like people don't really know what happens in a real therapy session. And it's publicized and free, he can only do so much. People are just asking too much and they assume everything

@Jeff B or maybe hes not that ''emotional'' psychology is more complex than, he is, he is not

@Jeff B I'm not sure about Michael not having his shit together, we don't know him enough as a person to make a judgement on that. All I'm sure is that he isn't opening up at all.

In my experience, this is a lot like a normal therapy session. Not every session is a weepy revelation. The therapist is there to guide the patient through their thoughts and make sense of them. That’s largely what happened here. Also your first session isn’t going to be a big breakthrough. It takes time. On top of that, in a regular therapy session, everything you say is confidential (unless you talk about a situation where a child or elderly person could be harmed, stuff like that). That’s a big part of being able to “open up.” If other people want to do that on this show, that’s fine, but Michael is clearly learning stuff that could benefit him in his daily life. That’s what therapy is for. It’s very clear they’re working through messy emotions and making sense of them. This is my first time watching this channel and I really enjoyed it, as someone who is actually in therapy (and struggles with their own existential dread).

I dare to say it reminds me of the tucker Carlson bewildered look

Some people think others are fake when they take time to actually think about how they want to respond. They believe that they’re searching for what the person wants to hear as opposed to answering from the heart. I think that’s unfair and id much rather have a person answer thoughtfully than just say the first thing that comes to mind.

LOL you’re right

sarcasm is a major method with which people deal with it

nailing the zoomer humor

reminds me of Facebook when someone smiling bright on their profile picture commented something horrendous 😂

The depressed looking Michael behind them is trying to warn them 😂

Funny as hell

like what are the chances!

I missed it completely, thanks for the comment!

Paused to scroll down to find somebody commenting about it xD

He was looking at the door, but how was he so quick witted!?

Two years later and I still find that part hilarious

@@BusWhipper I also came back here to watch this again after 2 years lol

I was just introduced to him for the first time through Disguised Toast and the video of them together made me laugh so fucking hard. I used to watch Dr. K but something about him threw me off and NOW I FUCKING GET IT!!!! HE'S GOT THE SAME BAD QUALITIES AS J.P.!!! I thought he was an expert but he's really not, and watching Michael laugh when Dr. K called him special needs was hilarious. It's so ironic and judgemental. As if Dr. K has any right to determine what is normative human behavior.

Im confused about what the comment is on about, not the comment itself but the comment that commented on the comment

@@tsnstonepilot5375 do you mean like jordan peterson? Because if so I highly disagree

WHO even is J P? That's not really relevant though, slips of the tongue happen and awkward phrasing will always be awkward Dr. K is a legitimate doctor qualified to work in a hospital and as a psychiatrist

@@oSawmurai Here you go: 1:00:07 Then Dr K asks him why he said badass at 1:00:56

I used to do this during therapy a lot. I'd fight to keep the smile off my face because it was usually paired with a sad realization.

From recent Michael streams, he seems to be very happy when he identifies the problem about something, or why something doesn't work. Like a "So that's why!" reaction.

Jerry stone yeah that’s actually understandable and relatable, realizing something about yourself can be sad but also exciting, like recently I’ve found out things that could be wrong with me and it made me happy cuz I felt like I’m finally understanding myself

@@48DeathNinja That reaction sounds familiar. There's another person who does that, too ..No wonder he got along with Lily very well! XD

But I’m a fucking idiot

@@drownedcactus5618 I don’t think you are. I think that you just believe that because you’ve been told that.

@@winterquinnhawkings dman ok doctor k... youre right tho

Perhaps you are intelligent The problem is that smart people are too anxious and awkward to go out in front of the less_smart ones and emit their superior brain power A lot of smart people are even afraid to go outside They don't see the point in going out Some don't do anything with their lives because they live in fear

Child genius, grew up into an idiot

agree

I don't know, i got the feeling all throughout that Michael was incredibly closed off, in a "i'm going to give you the bare minimum of information about me so that this doesn't get too awkward"- kinda way. Also, by his demeanor it felt like he didn't really have much faith in therapy in general, and that he wasn't taking this talk seriously. Maybe someone pressured him into this? Another impression i got watching, is that he was overly focused on what people viewing the interview might think about it and how cringy or not the things said might look to them, which generated some reactions on his part that i think could be seen as disrespectful : lots of deflecting, laughing at the "gifted kids are special needs kids" remark, or interrupting to ask questions ->which felt more like him trying to gain some control of the conversation as opposed to just being in the vulnerable position of asking for help. It felt like he was trying very hard to seem completely unbothered, as if this was just a casual chat. I'd guess there's more there than just anxiety and poor self-esteem, he also seems very uncomfortable with expressing his feelings. Maybe i'm reading all the wrong things into this, but i think he approached this with the wrong mindset. He could've gotten A LOT more out of this talk with Dr. K.

@@razvansocol1966 He was definitely closed off, but it also does seem to be because of the reasons Dr K talked about; that fear of coming across as stupid, not being used to relying on anyone else. Outside of being around Lily, this is the first time he's been spotlighted with the expectation of being open about himself so he's probably bound to have felt uncomfortable. Maybe a private session would help him more, or a second session now that he's more familiar with it.

He not even a boomer what?

@@razvansocol1966 idk, I don’t think he was pressured into this. On the podcast he said he was opened to talking to dr K because he find it’ll be interesting. I also don’t think anyone would pressure anyone to do this or else all of them would be doing it but for etc feels uncomfortable talking to a live audience and every time he mentions it the other OTV people respect him on that. I feel like he’s just a closed off person in general and maybe just feels uncomfortable opening up. He is also pretty closed off in general talks and podcasts. I think he is probably very anxious about this, along with his low self esteem but he’s just a guy who seems confident (like he said) even when he may be not. Then again I’m also making assumptions

Look how they massacred my boy

having special needs isn't necessarily a bad thing

@@shantaeforsmash8287 i think the joke was about Dr k dropping a lot at once not so much about both of those things being bad lol

was he serious about that or did he misspeak? im not at that part yet

In case anyone takes that part of the interview out of context. Dr.K obviously miss spoke and Michael didn't correct him because he knew. I could be wrong but Michael acknowledged it himself and obviously didn't take offense.

And now you're smarter cause you're having anxiety of being dumb but you cant be dumb cause you know yoh got smarter because of the anxiety. Knowing not knowing is knowing you don't know

*Elon Musk : Thinks so fast that he can't even talk properly sometimes*

@@matthewgarcia7376 as a person that learned english as a third language, that last sentence broke my brain.

@@bintang9661 lmaoooo

@@bintang9661 hahaha

Anxiety: Yeeee boiiiiiiii Me: I'm not even there.

He was trying to see if Michael considered this a truly introspective experience or if he thought it was just a show.

@@MrSomnix But in reality neither of them know or atleast not to a point that acknowledgement would make a better difference

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ac6HgMSir9Suf2g.html Check out this video :) makes me cry everytime, it's about this thought too.

@@violetnhz I cried.

timestamp?

hi James, glad you can cry about it. Men should. Yes we all do have stuff and need to work through it. find good people to talk to. but, not everyone. I got into a trap of talking to everyone but really only a few have the capacity to relate.

I know this is unrelated but I love how your name is just James. No last name or anything. Just James lmao.

This is the importance of mathematics! Michael is very good at spotting derivative functions. Except he's doing it within the confounds of discrete math. Basically, it's the cornerstone of provable logic. Think about it like this, Michael is very good at spotting the equation that produces the words Dr. K said to him. Michael is very good at spotting algorithms. That's why he's very good at computer science. When he creates code, he can't just speak what he wants the computer to do. he has to think about what he wants, break down the result in a definable metric, then communicate a function to a computer that will produce the exact results he wants.

It's called mindfulness. Some acquire it later than others, while some are forced to acquire it earlier due to the nature of their upbringing. Some acquire it through drug usage, while some acquire it through meditation. Some acquire it through intense struggle and perseverance, while some acquire it through unfortunate circumstances that they find themselves trapped in. Some may acquire it with a combination of all the things I listed while some may acquire it with none of the things I listed. And then some may live their entire life on autopilot and never acquire it. The point is that, everyone's experience is different, which entails that everyone's path is different. This awakening of mindfulness is understanding how your actions and intentions (and others') affect yourself and others on an objective and fundamental level. Some call this "being woke", some call this "being enlightened", some call this "being objective", some call this "being aware", and some may even call this "being intelligent". The beautiful thing is you can digest this truth however you want to digest it. Whether that be spiritually, religiously, scientifically, etc. It doesn't actually matter, the result is the same. A mindful person may have already come to the conclusion that "being enlightened" isn't actually as good as it sounds. He might say, "Now I think I know how to understand everything, but at what cost? This newfound "enlightenment" just causes me to suffer." Yes imaginary man, you are half right, but you are also half wrong. It is a double-edged sword. You are essentially eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge by discovering this awareness. One might think, "before this realization I didn't have to fix anything about myself, I didn't have to ponder whether or not I am surrounded by good or bad people, I didn't have to have hold myself accountable outside of social or political judgment. Life was easier." And while these thoughts may be true, they are only one side of the coin. The other side is, "before this realization, was I truly alive? Was I actually in control? Was I my most authentic self? Did I have autonomy? Was I living my own life, for myself?" Regardless of the path you were pushed to take or the journey you are currently on, you are here now. Sure, life is a lot harder now with this newfound wisdom, but you are the driver now. So you gotta learn to roll with the punches baby. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

I was immediately compelled to respond to the OP here, but I laughed when I saw the comments, as I am also a person who likes to delve into things and make long hypotheses, sometimes with unsolicited advice sprinkled in - for better or worse. And as of yet, it seems apparent that these are the only types of people who feel to compelled to respond to this particular comment. Now that I can claim the shortest comment so far, I feel proud to have successfully resisted the urge to go too far on a tangent 😅 I think you guys needed it more than me. Take care guys. I hope it got you what you needed.

@@someguy1994 I believe your understanding is in many ways correct and that the way you described Micheal has lots of merit, but it doesn't encapsulate enough of it. if we imagine Micheal as an pillar your reasoning might steel cable keeping it too not swing to far ( 28:03). In truth you haven't still gotten to the foundations of that pillar.

@@jujume1327 does acid once.

im dying frm laughter

definitely will be clipped and taken out of context lmao

@@jpaspaspas It already has been.

1:10:15 I like how Michael picks up on that xD. Its like "wait wat? xDDDD"

You noticed it because Michael reacted when Dr K said it; but when Michael said “carnal” when he meant “primal” Dr K didn’t react at all, so barely anyone seems to have noticed it. I personally find that a much funnier slip-up, but maybe that’s just cause I’m an English major?

1:39:35 was also a funny one. "Questions for me?" "Nooo, not reeally" "Ok well one question you might have is 'what do I do about it...". Michael had 95% of his attention focused on not sharing anything emotional through much of this, and it says a lot about Dr. K that he still navigated to give ideas for Michael to think about later regarding existential dread and low self confidence possibly being related to feelings that he can only rely on himself, which in turn might be deeply imbedded because they are tied to very old experiences Michael has yet to process analytically. Interesting stuff, and neat to see a professional help someone who is not all that open to being helped yet. He's only 22, no judgement here.

This comment made me chuckle. Thanks for that

that's a fast learning course

Hi Alex

@@coolestkidontheblock111 hi Lomfort.

@@xatoor how are you, Alex?

@@coolestkidontheblock111 im doing fine Lomfort

ya'll think Fed would have needed this? Or might he have been a bit more... Self aware of his behaviors to be able navigate this?

@@manuelito1233 I think Fed needs proper professional help. Not that Dr. K isn't a professional, but HealthyGamer.gg has constantly reminded us that this platform/show is not in any way a replacement for professional help. Dr. K is off the clock here and as such, can't really provide the kind of extensive deep dive help that Fed needs

manuelito1233 *Fed needs some SERIOUS help*

@@manuelito1233 no that jester needs buddha and exorcism

Everywhere you look

Just radiates with that energy you would like to see in a tutor or teacher.

I completely agree. Opening up to a therapist for me at least is scary af as it is. Opening up to family and friends is even scarier because I don’t want to burden them with my thoughts and problems. Opening up to thousands of people on a livestream is just, ridiculous to me…

i would’ve flipped the script, given this dr. k guy some clearly needed therapy

Hmmm...

Sure

I know right. Which are you a fan of? Michael or Dr. K?

ACrazy Cooki I’m a fan of your mom

@@tofunari3359 Probably because she makes the best jokes, huh. 😂😂 (Pun intended)

He doesn't really talk much about his emotions though.. But yeah, I see your point, Dr. K is indeed impressed with Michael with how he thinks rather than he feels and how self-aware he is of himself.

@@ronaleelopiga2927 He does talk about his emotions, just not through the lens of emotions. I relate with Michael on this point; I usually try to process things logically. Understanding yourself rationally is comforting.

@@joeblow9275 Dude! It's gratifying to read someone else say this. I've always hated how people demonize rationality and intelligence like it's a straight rail-way to Anxiety and Depression. No. I've found that the ability to be open-minded and self-skeptical while reasoning through one's own issues can be therapeutic. But speaking with others who are also open-minded and intelligent can help us realize the truth more creatively- but ESPECIALLY living new experiences. Basically, it's being intelligent with TOO LITTLE DATA that can get us to build demented models of reality.

I need a time stamp for this hahah

1:00:07

Man I would want to be Michaels therapist, my degree would be fucking tested every second. XD!!

It felt like a conversation rather than more of a monolog that the others can end up as.

@@stoffni True, this is probably the talk that I relate to other than Lily's! I love the dynamic between them and I also love how this is just a purely analytical talk more than emotional

I truly believe he developed this look in hopes to gain traction subconsciously, by not stating that he wants to look like potter but for people to compare him to potter, thus making his approach easier and more smooth

*3 foot Elon Musk Harry Potter that tases people while making robots*

"fit"

harry potter has singlehandedly ruined round glasses for males

@@commenter30 lol

Why do that at 6-7 when you can just do it now?

I remember sobbing to my dad at age 10 about the fear of death. Now I'm stuck in the fear that there is only one path: absolute abyssal of nothingness.

@@justinebpheartss I used to think that all the time and was super worried. I think the best way to combat it is too realize that the end goal to the universe isn't necessarily for anything good to happen, it's for good things to have had happened.

@@justinebpheartss I remember being afraid of everending nothingless but now I adore it and see it as a relief

same, ive never thought that anxiety had so many levels, and actually the thing that "smarter you are, more anxiety" makes a lot of sense.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I shall praise you for making these time stamps

thank god for this knowledge

thank you for your service

Nice

how does he not need to pee •_•

Man this hit me in da resonator pipe

Doesnt sound healthy to think of life as being eternally shut out of human connection.

yeah... i used to think thats fine but now i see thats not healthy at all for your mind

i had the exact same thoughts, i was thinking about ds too, not this deep tho but really interesting.

Underrated comment

That was so good, I love Dr. K

Michael's face is so freaking adorable too XDD Like, you can see "What" all over his face before asking the question XDD But man, the fact that he was genuinely listening and followed through that without the diagram is awesome! But him still letting Dr. K explain again with the diagram is probably a sweet/polite gesture

I thought there would be more comments about this.

Michael's face when he said it XD. I related lmao

The reality is, 99.999% of all people are good at some things and garbage at others. History nuts feel retarded when they can't finish a definite integral equation quickly and Math nerds feel lost when doing APUSH exams. Feeling dumb when you're discussing a niche topic is something everyone has experienced whether they remember it or not. For me, the reaction to someone who expresses my inability to respond to a niche situation is partial indifference and also calm knowing there's nothing wrong with that. Either you hit them with facts, or hit them back by exposing their own vulnerabilities, in hopes of helping them understand that just because you're dumb at one thing doesn't make you dumb as a person. Either they understand the fallacy in what they just said or they have the mind of a 14 year old. You can feel good about the latter. With the ego reactions, you just have to live long enough to accept the reality that you're not gonna be good, or even "ok" at everything. At the same time, you're probably quite good/knowledgeable at other things, even if those skills can't be pinpointed at moment's thought.

how would you like to be comforted if those things ever happen?

@@stevenmao6766 Dam this reply is so deep. I guess I should've expected that when reading the replies to a deep comment.

@@Housecat333 ah, i see is there somehting that we could do maybe? to make you feel better. maybe give you sometime and do soemthing after that?

He looked so disappointed

Wander the Nomad lmao yeah he doesnt think emotionally very much xD

I heard Michaels response and lol'd

Michael is a robot? NICE!

and thats only talking about drinks. i got 2 tho

Where have I seen this pfp?

Takeda Takahashi destiny 1 gang

Charlie Spradling What set is it?

@@Charlie-cv4un I thought I recognised it