One of my favorite parts of the second debate was "Matt wants to debate about evidence." I died laughing. That's kind of the point of the debate
@waxberry4 Жыл бұрын
A debate can only be about evidence or about reasoning.
@Dante-cq2zo Жыл бұрын
@waxberry4 When you talk about something that impacts reality (truth is demonstrable empirically), evidences matter at least as much as reasoning.
@brianharris7243 Жыл бұрын
@@waxberry4 you can reason your way to a falsehood.
@waxberry4 Жыл бұрын
@@brianharris7243 That is why you need debate.
@willbrown6931 Жыл бұрын
@Waxberry don't forget about evaluative debates, they are some of the most fun :)
@davidreynolds6718 Жыл бұрын
We could also debate if Star Wars is true. It would be more fun, and just as realistic.
@JayMaverick Жыл бұрын
And Star Wars fans are almost as easy to offend as Muslims.
@vincentsolis5149 Жыл бұрын
@@JayMaverick Not Original Trilogy fans. We gave up years ago lol
@ChillAssTurtle Жыл бұрын
40k is more real and more cool
@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Жыл бұрын
@James Hodson Been there 🙂
@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Жыл бұрын
@James Hodson I think I'm old enough to have been there before the Wurzuls were a thing! 🙂
@ivanharlokin Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for all your work, Matt. I am particularly appreciative of these synopses of your debates. While I understand that it may be important to listen to apologetics arguments directly, they are often so tiresome and disingenuous, that I can't bring myself to sit through them. Have a great New Year, and best wishes for 2023.
@inyobill Жыл бұрын
I cannot sit through them.
@junepearl7993 Жыл бұрын
Kenny is a likable person who seems to value honesty. Nadir has no redeeming qualities that he was able to demonstrate in this debate. He’s dishonest, arrogant, self-righteous, and ignorant. How Matt interacts with people like him in a civilized way is beyond me. I couldn’t do it.
@TheHortoman4 ай бұрын
Who knows maybe he cooks a mean casserole but he didnt get the opportunity to demonstrate it
@drathonix9930 Жыл бұрын
For those who don't know why Nadir was so obsessed with Aron ignoring him: Aron had at least 2 discussions/debates with Nadir on scientific miracles in the Quran and by the end of it he no longer wanted to speak to Nadir because Aron realized he was completely intellectually dishonest and so talking to him is a waste of time. Nadir has openly stated before that he will 'never admit Islam lost a debate' because he believes so strongly in it. He's an attention seeker and I consider him to be the 'Kent Hovind' of Islam. Like Kent he: - Only debates one topic: scientific 'mircales' in the Quran. This is why he was so obsessed with trying to push this in Matt's debate which was not about that. - Refuses to admit that he is wrong and accuses the other side of damage control. Side note, on this he's actually worse than Kent because he was accusing the QUESTIONERS of damage control. Apparently Nadir does not understand the purpose of Q&A. - Thinks children can consent. - Projects himself on the other side. - Has an enormous ego. - Thinks he is the ultimate debater and the only person you should debate (when he insulted Perfect Dawah, clearly he's still butthurt that Aron won't talk to him again) Even Daniel was a better interlocutor than Nadir. Heck even the Muslims who debated for the genocide of infidels on MMD were better interlocutors than Nadir.
@JackgarPrime Жыл бұрын
Yeah Nadir is awful. He's down there with Nathan Thompson as the most infuriating, dishonest interlocutors.
@markshort9098 Жыл бұрын
@@JackgarPrime more like Nathan Oakley
@drathonix9930 Жыл бұрын
@@markshort9098 I mean both those two FEs are pretty bad.
@JoeBlow-zr2ru Жыл бұрын
I've even pointed out to Nadir in post-debate discussion ... that his methods honor neither himself, nor Islam.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Жыл бұрын
@@JackgarPrime Didnt the illiterate pedofile warmonger ride a chariot drawn by firey unicorns up to the sun and heaven? Next you will be telling me J zombies cant make demons go into pigs and make then run into the sea and the earth isnt 6000 years old and flat!
@tctheunbeliever Жыл бұрын
Nadir's strategy seems to be to to sound clever for his sycophants while annoying his opponent to the point that he'll get angry and make a mistake. It's always entertaining to see him go up against someone who can see this and stays on point regardless of his clownish behavior. Of course most of his opponents are well aware of his juvenile tactics. He makes GMan look like a grownup.
@miguelquintana8076 Жыл бұрын
Nadir has sycophants? He's a total a%$.
@tctheunbeliever Жыл бұрын
@Miguel Quintana Well, I guess I'm just assuming he appeals to somebody. Maybe I'm being too generous.
@nadirahmed4224 Жыл бұрын
Matt D. got totally shut down by the science of the Quran. Please accept the Islamic debate victory.
@matthew6427 Жыл бұрын
That was a particularly hard debate to watch. Matt was actually getting visually frustrated, when he deals with myriad idiocy on a regular basis 😂 He's more patient than I could ever be, maybe he should be sainted?
@user-fj6kk1vo8n Жыл бұрын
St Matthew, of the Atheist Inner Circle.
@shaderunner7.0 Жыл бұрын
@@user-fj6kk1vo8n that'd be rather ironic since he hates people calling him Matthew lol
@danielmcneil3004 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt for the review of both debates which I watched . A very accurate analysis of what were obviously quite frustrating encounters, particularly the second debate. Keep up the good work. Happy new year and much success in 2023. ✌️🇨🇦
@GJK8DB9 Жыл бұрын
While Matt's work on the Atheist Experience was monumental, I much prefer to see Matt doing debates. I hope there's lots more to come!
@JoeHarkinsHimself Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan the Socratic method of examining assertions. I find that Islamic claims are especially vulnerable for the simple fact that so many assertions are fundamental and absolute. Simple questions are powerful exposers of the falsity of unqualified fundamental assertions. For example, it's a basic assertion of Islam that the quran is the perfect, unchanging word of a perfect, unchanging god. Who is then justified in "interpreting" the quran so that obviously false assertions in the original text say something different from what the original, allegedly perfect text actually says? Is it that this god is unable or unwilling to say what it means or mean what it says when it says that an ant spoke? If this god says that there is place where the sun sets in a spring of dark mud, why it is necessary to change the words so it says that god says someone saw a sunset? There are literally dozens of similar nonsense statements in the original text of the quran that provide tens of thousands of apologists with steady work "interpreting" these obvious errors so they mean something different from what they clearly say.
@iveseen1 Жыл бұрын
Well put Joe,l have often thought the same,lt seems this form of religion is not up to contemporary criticism.
@JoeHarkinsHimself Жыл бұрын
@@iveseen1 Thanks for the confirmation. However, I have yet to know any religion that can stand up to honest, candid examination. The irony is, every religion that exists is well known, by all other religions, as false. And of course, all those other religions know any particular religion except theirs is wrong. It's fascinating to watch a YT debate between a Christian who takes exposes the follies of Islam - followed a few minutes later by the Muslim taking apart Christianity - and both are right.
@iveseen1 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeHarkinsHimself Yes, we are obviously on the same page. Cheers.
@stephenkeddy6849 Жыл бұрын
Love your content Matt. When something new of yours pops up in my algorithm I get excited
@mikehoran6467 Жыл бұрын
I saw this debate, and Nadir was not debating. He was the pigeon who craps on the chess board, knocks the pieces over then declares victory.
@mball5 Жыл бұрын
It was uncomfortable how adversarial and childish Nadir was in that “debate”. It was as if he was plugging his ears with his fingers every time Matt talked.
@seasonedbeefs Жыл бұрын
Every theist ever
@SingleDigitDriven Жыл бұрын
Happy new year Matt!!! You the man!!!!! 👍👍
@allenmciver1888 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I had logic in grad school but have sharpened my mind listening to you and your analysis.
@ShutUpWesley Жыл бұрын
I recommend: The philosophers toolkit And The Critical thinking toolkit. They are really, really good books to get even sharper 🖖🏻
@user-fj6kk1vo8n Жыл бұрын
@@ShutUpWesley *Shhhink!*
@Thundawich Жыл бұрын
Just a notice for everyone to remember one specific fact about the earth when thinking about various scientific aspects of religious books. The land we stand on is literally floating on an ocean of lava. There is very few scenarios where the religious imagery would get more impressive than that, but it always goes unmentioned.
@Sharlenwar Жыл бұрын
This is awesome Matt, found you through Aron and MDD.
@Mmmmilo Жыл бұрын
Wow! Modern-Day Debates finally did something useful.
@blumoon131 Жыл бұрын
_"Matt wants to debate about evidence"_ In a debate? About something being true or not? Well shit man, I'd certainly hope so.
@cnault3244 Жыл бұрын
Matt's opponent: but... but.. but my arguments will only work if we debate about beliefs and feelings
@nancymc Жыл бұрын
Happy New year Matt. Thank you for empowering us. We appreciate all your knowledge and wisdom.
@DKPGames Жыл бұрын
Lets not forget Nadir really went on the "She was very mature for her age" route, you cant make this up .
@realGBx64 Жыл бұрын
But it was the 700s, people just matured much fasterer!!?!!!!
@DKPGames Жыл бұрын
@@realGBx64 In case u arent joking, stfu. If u are, nice one and stfu.
@realGBx64 Жыл бұрын
@@DKPGames (observe the pattern in the punctuation) I am bringing it up as this is one of the other lines apologists will bring up often. So, I repeat what they say in a mocking tone, that’s what the !!!?! means.
@asagoldsmith3328 Жыл бұрын
@@realGBx64 poe's law strikes again
@tidalfite2748 Жыл бұрын
She was though. Aisha led a war.
@2ahdcat Жыл бұрын
Iiiit's... dat Matt guy again! lol. Happy new year, Matt-Tastic! 😺😺
@SnakeAndTurtleQigong Жыл бұрын
I love The use of the term “fan fiction.” So true!
@marcusreading3783 Жыл бұрын
I like to say that the Bible is the poorly written sequal to the Torah and the Koran is the god awful fanfiction written by the edgy teenager who thinks that hes the greatest author ever, despite the fact he cant even spell the word.
@elmolewis9123 Жыл бұрын
I would not use mental illness to describe the average religious individual. Still, having watched a few minutes of Ahmed, this zealot seems to need an intervention. Love this channel and kudos to Matt for having the strength and patience to deal with individuals like this.
@morbidmanmusic Жыл бұрын
It is a delusional notion.
@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Жыл бұрын
I have engaged with Nadir online. I am unsure as to whether he has some genuine cognitive block or is deliberately disingenuous. I tend to the latter.
@FourDeuce01 Жыл бұрын
If the muslims really wanted to settle the debate, all they need to do is prove their god exists.😈
@philippschwartzerdt3431 Жыл бұрын
I debated Moslem’s and the final killing argument of the debating counterpart was always the question of: “are you an islamic scholar?”, when entering into the details of historical Islam and they started to be far out of their depths, especially how it came to the fact that the Koran is the literally the same all over the world (although that is not entirely correct, even if moslems like to claim so). Since I am not an islamic scholar, the debate then always over - though there are enough history books contradicting todays teachings of the source for the “modern” Koran.
@gaimsharc7176 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do for us Matt 🇺🇸
@lurch666 Жыл бұрын
Any science in a religious book isn't known to be science until it's been proven scientifically. Think about it.
@sypherthe297th2 Жыл бұрын
True but the problem is they treat it as an Easter egg that their deity put there to show how much more they knew and to prove the religion. Its impossible to get them off this nonsense. Also, the things they point to as "scientific miracles" were either known at the time or are vague poetic phrasings they are twisting into "science."
@lurch666 Жыл бұрын
@@sypherthe297th2 Exactly my point. Even if the statement in the religious book turns out to be scientifically true that same science would also disprove all the false claims in that same religious book. But theists just want to claim science 'proves' their religion ignoring the science that disproves the rest of their religion.
@dhwyll Жыл бұрын
I decided to listen to this as I was walking my dogs and even with the pausing to skip KZfaq ads, the stream ended just as I got home and took their harnesses off. How can you explain that?!!!?!?!11!? Clearly Matt is god and knew precisely how long it would take to walk my dogs and made the post mortem precisely long enough! /s
@Steve-Cross Жыл бұрын
I would like to wish you and your partner, a very happy New Year 2023. I have learnt a lot from you, especially critical thinking, over the years I have watched you. Keep up the good work.
@horaciolerda Жыл бұрын
With Nadir it happened the dame thing that happened in the debate about mariology. The subject of the debate wasnt addressed by the defender. Both Nadir and William Albrech arrived at the debate looking to win a fight.
@MrOliver1444 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt for this video. I think you are very clear and logic.
@Lotus1881 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year Matt! I saw you in Cambridge few years ago. Thanks for everything, best wishes for 2023!
@thecommonsensechannel6268 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the prophecy- the Simpsons are still the best I have seen lol
@LordGentle Жыл бұрын
This was great. Thank you Matt.
@tartarus1478 Жыл бұрын
I posted on Nasir’s video under modern day debates “even if Harry Potter correctly outlines the toxins in belladonna it doesn’t make the wizarding world real.” It gets filtered if you mention Harry Potter or fairytales
@lassebongo126 Жыл бұрын
I love these debate reviews, Matt. It's some of my favorite content from you. The first debate opponent was not very good, but at least seemed like a kind human. The second one, Nadir, was very dishonest and unpleasant, and in the end a total waste of time. But you did good in both debates. Any sane person can see how badly the "truth" of Islam was defended in both cases. If Allah (or any other God) is real, why does he need apologists? Happy new year!
@mobilegamersunite Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Thanks Matt! 😊
@Ankhschannel Жыл бұрын
Atheist Experience is not the same without you, that said - its still great. However, i've got a question for you: Do you have any plans of putting your stuff on spotify or any other podplatform? Cos i love listening to your stuff while i work. Keep up the good work Matt!
@norcodaev Жыл бұрын
It’s unfortunately so true. As much as I love Forrest, Shannon, Jim, Dave, JMike, etc, it’s just not as entertaining as when Matt was hosting. None of the other hosts have Matts ‘take no shit’ attitude, which I personally think is the best way to deal with these irrational theists, or his depth of knowledge about the buybull or religion in general. Hopefully they can get their differences squared away and we can get Matt back on the show.
@Wishuponapancake Жыл бұрын
@@norcodaev can i get a tldr on what happened? so confused about it all
@brynpookc1127 Жыл бұрын
@golgothas Testified Matt did a video on the issues.
@Mmmmilo Жыл бұрын
Hey Ankh, if you purchase KZfaq Premium, you can listen to videos with your screen off and no ads. Basically the same as a podcast app.
@Mmmmilo Жыл бұрын
@@Wishuponapancake just watch Matt’s video on leaving the ACA - you’re literally already on his channel.
@TisButAScratch666 Жыл бұрын
Great recap Matt!
@user-yn5sk5ru5g Жыл бұрын
Kenny and Nadir were great at showing how unreasonable it is to believe what they believe
@joeldobbs7396 Жыл бұрын
I am glad Matt agreed to debate Nadir, not just because I can watch Nadir getting spanked by one of my favorite counter apologists, but because if he hadn't Nadir would have taken out a full page ad in every major news daily to proclaim how "Matt was too scared to debate him". Nadir is to the Quran what Darth Dawkins is to the Bible, both are in it for their own ego and neither are a credit to their chosen arguments.
@danielpaulson8838 Жыл бұрын
"Nadir is to the Quran what Darth Dawkins is to the Bible, both are in it for their own ego and neither are a credit to their chosen arguments." Joel Dobbs I have to ask due to confusion, who to you is Darth Dawkins?
@htpkey Жыл бұрын
@@danielpaulson8838 He's one of the worst presuppositional apologists, he uses a very tired script in every conversation. Presups are the worst of all apologists, because they don't want to argue for their religion (e.g. Christianity, Islam). Their starting point is that their god already exists, without providing any evidence for this. I wouldn't waste any time on a cretin like DD. You can watch the video "Pinecreek shows how to handle Darth Dawkins in a debate" to see the tactics he uses. ShannonQ also debated him and exposed how DD manipulates people during a conversation.
@danielpaulson8838 Жыл бұрын
@@htpkey Thanks. I don't stay very up on these. I thought it was a play on Richard Dawkins and they are nothing alike. Does the DD guy take that name for that reason? Or is his name also Dawkins?
@htpkey Жыл бұрын
@@danielpaulson8838 You're welcome! He has no connection to the atheist Richard Dawkins. DD is a Christian presup. I think he uses the Dawkins name because it's from a famous atheist, he's just doing it for the clickbait. The Darth part is from Star Wars, they are the evil antagonists of the Jedi. The Darth part is fitting with his character.
@danielpaulson8838 Жыл бұрын
@@htpkey Got it. Thanks. Love Richard Dawkins but watched some of the video you posted and the Darth dud is totally self disillusioned and sounds as empty as a box of rocks. Without the rocks. Glad I asked instead of defending him, not knowing the creep was riding Richard's coattails. Happy New Years
@AbrahamMeat Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Matt. Thanks so much for your time and efforts, you have taught me so much in the last 13 years.
@whigmin5436 Жыл бұрын
Many Muslims would actually see the 'Kiss Hank's Ass' tactic and phrasing as hard to interact with because it means that they will have to engage with phrasing itself that they are uncomfortable invoking as part of a counter. This and the farting pixies examples are not going to get the job done in an honestly earned way, Matt. That being said, I can't wait to see you school Daniel.
@cnault3244 Жыл бұрын
Only Allah knows the correct interpretation? Why isn't Allah able to make itself clear so that no interpretation will be necessary?
@gaynomadic Жыл бұрын
I have looked forward to this review since watching the debates, Matt, especially the one with Nadir, so thank you. That man is so annoying. His arguments are appalling. He is arrogant and condescending, perhaps not quite as extremely so against you, Matt, but if you’ve seen him trying to school Apostate Prophet, the condescension was so thick, you could cut it with a knife. He needs to learn a few social skills. His defence of the ridiculously unscientific passages in his Quran are absolutely laughable and show just how thoroughly his religion has brainwashed him. I think he’s a parody of a man, truly someone representing the lowest point. And the other guy, Kenny, giving you his book like that at the start… what a cheap, shoddy gesture. Keep exposing these twits, Matt.
@roscius6204 Жыл бұрын
The holy book believers need to list all the science as yet undiscovered by man that they are currently sitting on. Then they could tick them off as we find them. Done, that would be pretty reasonable proof of their books validity, maybe not divinity but still a good start.
@patrickboyle932 Жыл бұрын
Kenny comes off as more amicable than Nadir but don’t be fooled. If the they had their way both would support putting people in prison (or worse) for insulting their ‘prophet’.
@rayraygoreng6264 Жыл бұрын
It looked like Kerny tried to put matt in a headlock as they were hugging it out-- that and his line of argumentation (or lack thereof)struck me as an unstable person.
@isidoreaerys8745 Жыл бұрын
11:30 “the rapid spread in conversion to Islam/Christianity” is uniquely unimpressive in the context of these religions because they contain Explicit teleological proclamations which command their believers to evangelize to every man on earth. Meanwhile Buddhism permeated a vastly more cultural/linguistically heterogeneous expanse of the planet all while having no evangelistic mandate. That a religion not about miraculous wonders and tall tales, but dispassionate self knowledge and letting go of selfish attachments would scale the Himalayas to reach the the Eurasian steppe, penetrate the fiercely isolationist Japanese archipelago, and unify the countless isolated cultures which arose in the most fertile environment on earth, in the rainforests of south East Asia… is far more compelling than the Abrahamic cults which had the power of the state behind them, yet struggled to establish themselves beyond their near eastern Mediterranean/Arabian context. The spread of Islam and Christianity is exactly what one should expect from a false belief system which contains violent and exclusivist instructions for how to enforce those beliefs as a political ideology.
@isidoreaerys8745 Жыл бұрын
In retrospect many will be inclined to overvalue the appeal of Christianity citing its prevalence in the americas. But we cannot ignore the fact that that presence was established by force in Africa, and the new world through the moral abomination that was white christian settler colonialism of the Colombian exchange. The indignities of the Spanish Mission, the horrors of the Afrocarribean slave trade, the relentless genocide of the indigenous peoples of North America canonized into christian doctrine as the Manifest Destiny which would go on to Inspire Hitler’s Liebensraum and the Holocaust under the German Nazi party. This is Exactly what I would expect from a false belief system which for every degree of its moral bankruptcy and utter worthlessness it made up for it with ideas perfectly adapted to exploit the frailties in human reasoning, to co-opt and exacerbate our most racist, misogynistic, xenophobic and tribalistic impulses.
@danielpaulson8838 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your information and understanding. If I may opine. Christianity became highly popular for one main reason. It plays on natural human fears of death, promises that you can escape it by simply believing in this. Then they hand a bible to the fearful masses. Now you get eternal life without even working for it. You see what kind of mind believes in that? Humans being naturally divided to enhance evolution in the beginning creates their own version locally. We don't share Gods until the God can't be shared. So they continue to evolve religions. Most humans have a sheep mentality. They will be led by something unless they figure it out. They are not the thinkers. But they are the masses. The many called. Not the few chosen. (Using Christian adopted lingo)
@labeled1 Жыл бұрын
I nearly did a spit take when you mentioned, "Kissing Hank's Ass." It's such a good way to show religious people how they sound to me.
@ZenWithKen Жыл бұрын
What drives a person to want/need a god to be true? I've never had such a desire and it baffles me why people do.
@bradzimmerman3171 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely religions drive people ^#%*@&and they fall for it then follow a cowardly deity that loves to play hide and seek
@Yungrexy Жыл бұрын
The "afterlife" is my best guess... They just don't wanna admit that this life is the only one they will have. They need to convince themselves that there is a special place for them when they die, most theists probably know it is fanciful but will cling on just in case.
@htpkey Жыл бұрын
It think theists understand that the universe is indifferent to our existence. They don't like the idea that some people have done so much harm to society and were never punished for it during their lifetime. They believe that they will be judged for their actions in some afterlife or from reincarnation (into a "lower" life form). That's why it's important for us to try and fix the problems we have in the world. This existence is the only one we are sure of, the rest we have no evidence for and are just wishful thinking.
@uncleanunicorn4571 Жыл бұрын
the Hadith's also make counter factual claims that completely undermine all credibility, like the sun resting in a muddy pool of water.
@exceptionallyaverage3075 Жыл бұрын
Islam and christianity are equally nonsensical, IMO.
@SirBenJamin_ Жыл бұрын
I'm an Atheist, and really enjoy listening to the callin shows you're associated with. However, I was wondering, does anyone know of any channels that are the opposite? I.e. Where the hosts are theists and debate with people that call in that are atheists?
@pansepot1490 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they exist. I would have heard of them by now.
@JackgarPrime Жыл бұрын
If there are, they're likely very obscure. Mostly because atheists are far less interested in "converting" theists, and there's also not really a worldview to debate or defend when it comes to atheism, since it's more just a position to a proposal than a belief system in and of itself.
@bradzimmerman3171 Жыл бұрын
Yes theists have to prove their craziness, atheists,& we are right, say "prove it " that's when christians fly apart like a cheap watch
@dorarie3167 Жыл бұрын
There is Hamza’s Den and Thought Adventure Podcast, both featuring 2-4 Muslims who debate/converse with non-Muslims.
@LettersAndNumbers300 Жыл бұрын
Hope subtitles appear soon 👍
@pup1008 Жыл бұрын
Hitchens, possibly not originally, observed that if there was a god he showed no interest in his minions for the first *248000* years of their time on this planet? It strikes me as strange that it was only really when societies started getting together & people had the luxury of time to contemplate their navel that "gods" started appearing....🤔
@toughenupfluffy7294 Жыл бұрын
"I know! Let's invent an imaginary sky god and project it out into the cosmos, then make up a bunch of BS rules to worship it by, causing thousands of years of suffering and wasted human energies!" "Um...no thanks."
@morganramsay7628 Жыл бұрын
The easiest things to hide are the things that don't exist.
@lazzygnome4060 Жыл бұрын
After watching this video expecting it to be a review of your conversation with Kenny, I then went back and found the conversation with Nadir. I have to say, even with low expectations going in, I was still disappointed with Nadir, and his ability to even approach the notion of critical thinking. At one point, he said something along the lines of "Matt has to explain to me why the Quran has these scientific miracles (not a thing) listed all over," and I couldn't believe he actually seemed to want you to do his job for him. Talking to him really was a waste of time.
@tylerhellums9823 Жыл бұрын
It's always frustrating when a theistic debater continues to try to declare victory like in the second debate.
@waynecatterton5127 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt for these reviews. To be honest I got frustrated and angry trying to watch the debate with Nadir, but you handled it really well as always.
@Wheres_the_money_lebowski Жыл бұрын
Nadir is still claiming victory from the debate, he's delusional.
@chrisrent7119 Жыл бұрын
Its like Nadir call on the show of Matt hahahah.
@josiahvonb3426 Жыл бұрын
No! see, no debate needed.
@Raz.C Жыл бұрын
Christ on a dildo!!!! THANK YOU, Matt!!!!!! I've been doing google searches for "Church of Hank/ Church of Frank/ Million dollar religion prank etc..." trying to remember the name of this thing that I remember seeing, but couldn't quite remember the name of. About 4 minutes in, Matt mentions "Kissing Hank's Ass," which was the very thing I'd spent so long searching for!! Fuck my nose!!! It's such a relief to FINALLY scratch that itch and to be able find and watch the correct video again!!
@gabrielesimionato1210 Жыл бұрын
Short answer: no
@PoppycockPrincess100 Жыл бұрын
7:13 Matt: "Not here to recommend alcohol at all." Me: takes swig of champagne
@trishayamada807 Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@PoppycockPrincess100 Жыл бұрын
@@trishayamada807 Cheers to you too! Happy New Year! 😄
@OBluePrint Жыл бұрын
Whenever I'm reminded of prison ministry, my mind immediately goes back to Hoodlum, where at the beginning of the movie Lawrence Fishburn's character has to convince the board evaluating his release, being asked what he thinks of the bible they heard he was reading, snd him answering in the most obvious I'm-lying-to-you-so-you'll-do-what-I-want way, saying "It's a good book."
@Ninvus2 Жыл бұрын
I got in an argument with Nadir in the comment section of one of his other debates. He's incredibly condescending and didn't seem to even understand the point I was making. He also wouldn't shut up about how many Christians he claims to have beat in debates in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if he's yelling at people in the comment section for this vid too.
@narco73 Жыл бұрын
The Mediterranean and Atlantic are stratified where they meet due to the Mediterranean being saltier. But the reason the Mediterranean is saltier is because the Atlantic flows into the Mediterranean. Water in the Mediterranean evaporates, and there are not enough rivers to provide enough fresh water to cancel out the additional salt that is constantly feeding in from the Atlantic. So the waters do mix.
@uninspired3583 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year. One for the algorithm
@INSOLIASTUDIOSJIMM Жыл бұрын
Nadir was very rude
@rinos7902 Жыл бұрын
I always say to muslims let's start from the beginning from the moment mohamed came down from his cave and told the people of mecca hey guys I saw an angel , would you believe right away if someone told you they saw an angel and that angel said stuff to them ??? Is the Quran evidence for itself being a revelation from God to --> an Angel to--> mohamed to--> the early followers to --> us today Why can't God skip all of this and come talk to us directly is he shy ? If God comes down says the Quran is my book I sent mohamed that's it .
@lassebongo126 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year, Matt!
@Bob-of-Zoid Жыл бұрын
Both of those debates only showed just how much of their life some believers will put into a belief so removed from all that is real and good, in order to defending the indefensible, and how willing they are to resist any form of rational thought in order to take on the futile task of explaining an utterly absurd ideology into existence. I guess the main reason the bible and quran call suicide a ticket to hell, is because some of those who made that crap up realized just how much their bullshit messed with peoples mind. I can only imagine that before they did people would rather die than serve a god who demands one mutilate their own mind to the degree of self inflicted insanity.
@pedroporto6729 Жыл бұрын
We need you, Aron, Harris and as many honnest people as possible, to come to the lands of the great inquisition, Portugal and Spain. Here, our polititians say we are secular, so the EU accepts us, but the truth is that we keep the concordate between our state and te Vatican. Just to make it better, it was done between Salazar, a totalitarian dictator mix with a religious fannatic, and the pope that granted hitler's birthday Celebration inside the catolic church every year. Sorry for the errors! Hope to see you here some day! Keep up the fight against non sense!
@bethbryant21 Жыл бұрын
24:50 Nadir said bride-to-be's consent was required. It is insulting to accept a 6-year old could consent to marriage and a 9-year-old could consent to sex with a 57-year-old.
@englishexpert1989 Жыл бұрын
Did the bride complaint Against her marriage?
@hollenfeuer1 Жыл бұрын
As a CO, I can tell you, religion has exactly zero effect on recidivism.
@thomasschodt7691 Жыл бұрын
A single debate is like a single chess game. You can vary your opening moves...
@Raz.C Жыл бұрын
I often find myself wishing that Matt would have an intelligent debate opponent, who didn't fall victim to uncountable numbers of fallacies, etc. But then I remember - If they were intelligent and weren't plagued by horrendously flawed thinking, then they wouldn't be theists!! If we want to see an exciting, compelling and 'close' debate, then Matt would need to debate a competent atheist over a non-theistic topic. He did this once before about abortion rights, but unfortunately, his opponent kind of shat herself (figuratively). Matt talked about bodily autonomy and she was expecting him to say that the foetus isn't human, so ALL her segments revolved entirely around objections that no one had made. She wasn't just arguing against a straw-man, she was arguing against an invisible, possibly an imaginary straw-man!! Every point Matt raised was entirely unanswered by her, the ONLY points that she 'rebutted' were points that no-one had raised. That isn't so much a brain-fart on her behalf, it's a brain-fart that turned into a brain-shit, hence she 'kind of shat herself.' Which is a shame, really, because she was quite sexy when she wasn't covered in figurative shit! Anyway, my point is, I want to see more debates against attractive women! No... Hang on...
@chrisrent7119 Жыл бұрын
You roasted nadir in your debate hahaha.
@garethdewhurst1499 Жыл бұрын
I watched both debates, I liked Kenny (although his talking points were quite flawed), he was friendly and happy....Nadir was simply insane
@nadirahmed4224 Жыл бұрын
of course you like Kenny - he is the weaker debater - not educated. I used the science of the Quran to body slam Matt, as he was not able to respond.
@Mike.Muc.3.1415 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: there are no good studies supporting benefits of alcohol consumption. Most studies supporting this claim are either connected to the industry or methodologically weak.
@snesoey Жыл бұрын
9:5, 9:14, 47:3-4, (Quran) countless more. How is this not "Hate speech"?
@shodan64015 ай бұрын
Islam will enter every household before judgment? Sounds like someone's gonna steal my wallet...
@Lewis5020 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Nadir is appropriately named!
@jaym6501 Жыл бұрын
Sir: I fully agree with you, because it is more reasonable for me. And If I where you, I will do the same, repeating the debate with same way is useless. 100% am with you. Keep up the Good work.
@EMDS04 Жыл бұрын
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@LuisPiccinelli Жыл бұрын
Both debates were ridiculous! I don’t get how Matt has patience to do these debates. I hope he’s getting paid a lot of money!
@nadirahmed4224 Жыл бұрын
Please accept the Islamic debate victory of Matt D. the science of the Quran destroyed him
@DrumsOfLiberation2279 ай бұрын
@@nadirahmed4224nothing as such happened..if it did you wouldn't be here telling ppl to accept it lmao..just take the L man you lost big time😂
@michaelsommers2356 Жыл бұрын
The spread of Islam is explained not by any god, but by the fact that they had a powerful army.
@philipinchina Жыл бұрын
I heard the first one. You thrashed him.
@moodyrick8503 Жыл бұрын
*Why did Allah allow Christianity to become such a well established religion, before introducing his real message, Islam, to the middle east?* _(confusing humanity)_ Why not just give Moses the same message he gave Muhammad? _Why wait?_
@rashidxd Жыл бұрын
The verses that contradicts sceince or common logic needs Tafsir which basically means allah wasn't able to put it clearly or he was simply ignorant and now we need some random guy to clear the confusion for us.
@wordscapes5690 Жыл бұрын
Alcohol makes religious people more tolerable. It is absolutely essential, and the benefit certainly outweighs the harm.
@Redrum420CF Жыл бұрын
watched both debates recently but didn't have that much to do about islam
@Killa_3 Жыл бұрын
Matt if your brain can take it , and you don't mind speaking to just a slightly better version of these arguements, you should make reaction videos to people like Mohammed hijab, Ali dawah , dawahwise, ef dawah , and you'll find a whole massive amount of content, as they are kinda big in the Islamic scene in London, and speakers corner. Would love to see you provide upto date arguments for there new age Islamic dawah on evolution,big bang, social science and society. They also come with the same bravado like nadir lol .
@Yungrexy Жыл бұрын
Mohammed Hijab is a clown shoe... Sayin' that so is Dawah and the rest of those speakers corner goons.
@Killa_3 Жыл бұрын
@@Yungrexy they really are but I see they pulled a lot of traction with using Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate as a smoke screen to one gain views, and Tate to mask thier already medieval way if thinking in terms of society and women, but would be nice to see there videos refuted and gives matt a great way to make a 10-15 mins vids which are popular, bit click bait but put it as reaction to Muslim such and such lol
@michaelsommers2356 Жыл бұрын
What does the Koran say about quantum gravity?
@pansepot1490 Жыл бұрын
Good question.😅
@dmitryxxx26 Жыл бұрын
Nothing...
@tannermclaughlin5001 Жыл бұрын
Nothing
@lilarrin1220 Жыл бұрын
Just wait until some brilliant physicist finds a solution, and then all the muslims will scramble to look for the best verse that was so obviously talking about the topic all along
@michaelsommers2356 Жыл бұрын
@@lilarrin1220 But until real physicists find the answer, no one will be able to point to any verse in any allegedly holy book.
@stuarthogg4298 Жыл бұрын
Other religions/cultures also have prohibitions against alcohol. Even if Islam is responsible for saving lives (debatable) look at all the lives lost due to wars and terrorism etc.
@luke31ish Жыл бұрын
I'm frustrated with the debate inside Christianity between Calvinism and Arminianism. There's verses that back both sides, but they're trying to cancel each other out because the modern evangelical thinks that theological purity can be attained, only if the other side admits their fault. So what you see is dodging, interpretations, Greek meaning, grammatical gymnastics, sophistry etc.
@hankkingsley9183 Жыл бұрын
It's impossible to prove the veracity of a holy book. I don't see much point to debating whether or not a religion is "true" or "false". A religion's holy book(s) is a collection of many claims, each claim would have to be evaluated separately. As I type I see that Matt brings up the same problem with this debate topic in the first few minute of this video.
@serioushamster Жыл бұрын
6:03 I think Nadir is a doctor. He must have gotten tired of his patients talking about alcohol.
@loriw2661 Жыл бұрын
The second one was so frustrating. I couldn’t do it. Edit: I mean I couldn’t have done the debate, not that I couldn’t watch it. 😉