I was raised in an Islamic home. Even though I am a black American... I know 1st hand about the darkness of Islam.

I think we are actually pretty aware, but when we try to call out the evil we are labeled as islamophobic and dismissed. There’s this crazy notion that all religious beliefs need to be accepted and tolerated. They have to be allowed, by law, but there is no law saying they aren’t allowed to be ridiculed and dismissed as horrible. I’m glad you were able to get out.

So happy to read your comment here. I live in Western Europe where a huge migration of mainly Muslims is underway. In many parts of Brussels you see more women with a hijab than women without. And I'm not happy about that. Democracy is about a majority of votes. What if you have more Muslims than non-Muslims in your city? Europe's capital.

@@johnholland9371 I completely follow you on this. I have no respect for a religion of any kind. I respect people for the way they behave in the world, regardless what of if they believe.

@@user-fd9di2fb8f I'm not contradicting you, but Belgium is clearly different from France. I work in Brussels, and in many places women with a jihab are clearly in the majority. What do you mean by 'I'm a Muslim atheist'. Honest question. I thought Muslim and Islam are linked, but am I wrong?

Well you know……the perfect prophet and all that jizz.

I am 50 years old. I knew that about Mlims when I had the displeasure to live in an Islamic country. It is sickening.

Since their " prophet" did it, they think it is ok to do. What a sad world we live in, people worshiping a pdf file and justifying pdf filia!

@@kar7195Worse, fundamental Muslims have to go against their own intuitive notion of right and wrong to defend the heinous acts of a child rapist, their prophet.

as an ex-Muslim I already expected that.. I hear them all the time defending it in Arabic platforms along with insults and death threats... in fact the moment you bring the subject they show you their enmity.. and sometimes they argue by saying "well you are an Atheist with no objective source of morals.. there is nothing preventing you from fraking your mom or your little sister so you can't criticize us.

Same

@georgexander7170ding dong

@georgexander7170what truth? Izlame truth? hahahaha. What utter nonsense!

The fact that Matt Dillahunty was in an open relationship with his ex-wife and let other men have sex with her and is currently dating a man who thinks he is a woman is proof alone of how non-sensical atheism is. Alhumdulillah for Islam.

In what way?

@@mmerri9780 Have you ever been on Daniel's channel before?

They’re both incels

were gonna get Matt to do a ritual , wanna bet he gets knocked on his ass by Lucifer ?? LMAO Lucifer isn't shy it's his world. I've done over 30 rituals

​@@silversorcerer9316what?

@@GameTimeWhy a ritual is when you call out to the gods

@@silversorcerer9316 that is not what ritual means.

I can't stand people like Daniel. Living in a Muslim country is stressful enough, I want to keep myself sane.

Wow. May I ask, do you still live in Pakistan and are you having to keep it secret?

How come you can call muslims trash and i can`t, I get 1 day when i call out any religious child raping advocate.

Ain’t No Way u got Daniels pleasure machine as ur profile😂

Matt can’t block them or hang up when it’s a debate so he’s got no choice. I guess he could have just walked off…

​@@seonf4370he could have declined the debate at the invitation stage.

@@seonf4370 Hard to call him a coward when he actually does the thing, huh?

@@seonf4370 Mad

I was there too and I legit thought a fight might break out a few times.

I did. No reason to do it again. He's got nothing to add.

@Kraid, I agree with you.

Yes. Them speaking openly about their faith is the best possible antidote to the watered down naive western view of Islam.

yeah, disturbing.

Yes, I saw how they defend the abuse of women, the forced hijab, beatings, child marriage. It is awful.

I dunno, you give women the last word but they are not happy with it.

Yea. That dude was coming straight from the Teliban playbook. He should just move over to Afghanistan.

His version of Islam, at least.

@@Giby86" his version of Islam". Islam is the Islamic texts, quran, hadiths and biography of Muhammad. He is unapologetic about it and simply expresses what those texts say. He advocates for wi fe beatings, as per quranic injunction, child marriage, as per quran, hadiths and biography of Muhammad. He justifies sex slavery as per quran and hadiths. He represents his religion well.

I've met Turkish, Pakistani, and Indonesian Muslims who are just as logical, practical, and progressive as I am. The people use religion as their excuse to be monstrous.

@rayraygoreng6264 Do they get their logic, practicality, and progressiveness from the Qur’an though? Or do they possess those qualities outside of what their religion would have them think? Moderate religious people are the ones that just ignore more of their holy book than the fundamentalists

He meant it's a violation of their consent unless they are being taught that Islam is the one true religion.

Touched on it here.... and will again

@@cnault3244 sure, I don't remember what exactly was said and I'm not going back to watch it. The was the most painful "debate" to watch, ever. But to say forcing education on a child is a violation of consent is truely idiotic. In any world view.

He clearly in no way understands consent. Consent requires being informed, you can’t be informed on most choices in life if you aren’t properly educated.

@@Zaccheus4 True, being that a child cannot give informed, enthusiastic consent, there can be no violation of consent. I guess my first comment was forgetting that. Daniel is just such a disgusting human my brain stopped working. I just hope MDD and others stop giving him a platform

How exactly did you metaphorically punch down? How did you ever reach the conclusion that women and girls were socially weaker than you? Have you ever spoken to a teenage girl?

Punch up at authority, don't kick down at those worse off than you.

got a minor one word fix for your post: "Seeing people build a RELIGION by exploiting angry boys rather than teaching them how to behave properly is pretty disgusting." .

I’m so proud of that progress! It can be really hard to break out of cycles like that

This is wonderful

I always saw mandatory education as something aimed more at the parents then children. As something that prevents parents from denying their children at least some level of education.

Which is why it's so deeply ingrained in all muslim cultures.

In *all* cultures that go down the 'Our leader is by the desire and plan of [this society's notion of] a powerful god' fixed that for you. Many regions on our little planet have managed to almost stomp that shit and its influence out, but it lingers with young men continually recruited in with misogyny laden brainwashing. It's super effective apparently. Some places and their religiously justified, extreme cocknugget leaders are _currently_ doing a better job than others of subjugation and abuse toward half of their population, in the name of righteous deity provided masculine superiority, is all. It's not for the lack of trying elsewhere though. Plenty of men are busy vorganizing their religious, nationalist fascist militant groups around the world, they all share the same abusive, oppressive, authoritarian ideals regardless of country or particular religious cult they are desperate to see in power. It would be funny in its ridiculousness maybe, if it wasn't, ya know, actually still a thing happening right now.

Agreed. And they quickly breakdown when someone stands up to them in an environment where they cant resort to abuse and violence. I cant imagine what his home life is like. I pity the children.

But once I opened my mind , the facts and reality dismantled everything I had been taught and read within a short time. It was then I realized how wrong I had been for so many decades. I had accepted many lies within Islam as facts, even though I knew they were deceptions. I was also taught and became convinced that it is perfectly permissible to lie and deceive people because it is for their own good. You've likely heard of Taqiyya. As a defender of Islam, one learns precisely how to use it, and I became adept at it. In debates with Muslims, they often try to evade facts and reality. Instead, they appeal to intuition, faith, instincts, and similar notions. When that doesn't work, they resort to reminding you of the torments of hell. Simultaneously, they dangle the promise of countless virgins in the afterlife if you accept Islam. By the way, the Quran mentions many times how fair-skinned the girls in heaven are (like pearls, as Quran puts it). Apparently, Muhammad had a preference and did not consider colored girls beautiful. It makes one question who the real racist is!" You've probably heard countless times how they accuse atheists of pursuing pleasure, sex, drugs, and a rock 'n' roll lifestyle, is the only thing that atheists have in their minds. In reality, the primary motivation to become and remain Muslim revolves around the desire to reach Islamic heaven and engage in eternal relations with countless fair-skinned virgins. Girls, even young boys who have not yet grown pubic hair ( called Qilman in the Quran), rivers of wine, different types of fruits and lots of food are the only things that are promised to pious Muslims in afterlife. There is no spirituality in Islam whatsoever. Bu the way, those virgins and young boys are only for Muslim men. The women will get their old husband back and must compete with countless sex machines that her husband will get and wait for her turn. Any muslim who wants to refute me is more than welcome. I can support every claim I have made above with verses of the Quran.

I notice that a lots of muslims seems to still be like that. If you don't believe in islam, it's because you are ignorant. Even if you rad the quran and such. And if you are not ignorant, then, you know islam is true, but you just want to follow your desires. I never understood this kind of defense. It's like it's impossible for those people to concieve that you know about islam, and just don't believe it. I don't think i'll never get it.

Why do you think I left Islam to follow my desires? What are my desires? The only thing that I wish and my only desire is peace for the word. Safety for children ( not be sold at the age of 4 under the pretext of Islamic marriage) . Does that make me ignorant? But how can we have peace when there are people like Daniel who are literally supporting killing people like me who have left Islam? Or must be killed according to Sura Al Taubah verse 29 kill anybody who does not believe in allah and the day of judgement .... How can we save children when you see nothing wrong with selling 4 years old girls under the pretext of marriage? @@locococo7362

taqiyya is a part of shiism , and shiites are in minority. Most muslims are totally against taqiyya ​@@RezaJafari-hl4fi

Ofcourse he will find it moral to have slaves, especially since his religion specifically allows it.

He justifies wife beatings sanctioned in Islam by saying that employers beat employees and same should be for beating women🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

It was worth the wait! Now looking forward to the next ❤

Thank you ChatGPT

he claimed matt had a boyfriend because he was being transphobic about matt's partner

@@hannah01200 Bet he secretly looks at Arden's onlyfans.

300,000 out of 2,000,000,000 is not even one percent of Muslims.

@@TheOneLogic69 300k is not a small number dude! It is scary.

@@TheOneLogic69 It's still 300 000 too much :/

​@@TheOneLogic69 So where are the other 1.7 billion moderate ones? Why I don't see them subscribing to a moderate Muslim like "Perfect Dahwa" who are only have 600 subscribers? meanwhile Muhammad hijab and the likes of him all have a million of subscribers... same thing in the Arab world... So yes that 300k represent the majority of Muslims.. that's how statistics works.. cause these 300k people are actually 300k radical families not just individuals.. and when we look at others who have millions of subscribers... that's millions of families.. they represent the doctrine that is popular in real life.

Im really scare that one of his followers will become a politician or Daniel will gain a mass following and become the new Andrew Tate.

The difference is that the don't call it "pods", they call it "paradise". And dedicate their live to reach it after death.

secular humanists fails society

A very dishonest person.

@@oneooneTM When and how was Matt dishonest?

His strategy and goal was to piss Matt off, so he was happy he accomplished it. I am just surprised moderator didn't intervene when it was obvious what was going to happen and changed the way it is moderated

@@oneooneTM honest, I know

@@desnick2316 he said he didn't have the courage to say it in his face, he demonstrated that was false. I would have done the same and accused him of fighting words.

A lot of Christian debaters are also full of dishonesty, but they're better at veiling it in attempts at appearing civil and academic.

can you give some examples of lies regarding scientific miracles in the Quran

​@devilinside6419 Can you give examples of scientific miracles in the quran that are actually miracles and not someone's interpretation of superstitious nonsense?

@@devilinside6419 all of them, if someone says it's scientific miracle it's a lie. Moon splitting, embryology, seas don't mix, mountains as pegs, or anything you can think of. I read it, fact checked it and it's either a straight out lie, something was already common knowledge back then, inaccurate or reinterpretation to match modern science.

Dont worry much, christian apologist do the same, they simply had more time to smuggle in the lies and veil their disnhonesty (frank turek is a great example of this dishonesty). Muslim apologists are simply starting, give them a few decades practicing against people who actually can say "that is bs" and they will get to the same point christianity is nwoadays (and *very* likely where they still remain).

I agree, Daniel was terrible. Generally speaking MDD has decent debaters or at least pairs people so it is entertaining/informative. I watched the debate and I found myself thinking why is MDD even giving him a platform, he really did not even talk about the topic of the debate and he is one of the most dishonest people I have heard. He has been on MDD and shown this behavior before so it is not a surprise. I dunno, I just hope that MDD does a better job moderating, and not inviting back those who cannot stay on topic.

Right there with you, a genuinely hard needle to thread that.

tolerance of intolerance goes the other way too, cause the reason you call someone intolerant is cause they can't tolerate your proposition of something you want to tolerate and they don't, goes both ways if you use your brain to figure it out.

​@@VigilantGuardian6750But what do you do when there's a large group of contributors who have no decent argument, no facts or reason just abuse? At some point surely, it comes time to call a spade a spade and say harassment and predictable hate isn't an acceptable contribution to a 'debate'. Not saying they can't behave like that but they shouldn't be platformed if they do.

you call a moderator to make order in the debate, not act like a chimp which matt did, also Daniel was highly respectful and polite thoughout first parts of debate, it all started with Matt becoming emotional/irrational that Daniel used certain argument for eg. pleasure machine or attributing liberal values to secular humanism, Daniel doesn't have to tolerate Matt's emotional outbursts does he, if i was Daniel, i'd go even more ham vs Matt. Be fair and honest to at least admit Matt being first one to shift from polite to angry, not Daniel.@@bodricthered

​@@VigilantGuardian6750what a weird take on the debate. Not even slightly what I took from it, quite the reverse.

That moment was absolutely delicious! I remember watching it live (on stream) and it was clear that Matt was not acting with any violent intent, he was calm and always 3 steps ahead mentally. It was obvious to anyone paying attention. Why did nobody say anything when Daniel was shouting at the audience and calling them stupid and demanding they "sit down and shut up"? Oh well, good to let him make an utter fool of himself, I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel is on a watchlist for the things he said. Theists usually mask their bad takes, he is just unhinged.

There are true psychopaths out there but I think Daniel is just an egotistical assholes that uses religion to justify his right to dominate women and children. Religion makes even decent people act evil and Daniel is far from decent.

For sure Daniel wasn't there to have a debate. He was only there to make Matt mad and deflect every word Matt said. Just like every muslims does.

Ive said it before, Id love to see his browsing history and hidden folders on his laptop.

Can you prove it?

It's no paradox... Human rights aren't something we got for free but humanity paid blood for it... it's a commodity that you give and you get it back, those that don't return it don't deserve to be getting it.. and that's exactly why I am 200% with things like Guantanamo.. so don't take your human rights for granted.. Muslims will use violence to force you to compromise and give up your Rights one at a time.. and they will use deceit as well... same thing apply for other ideologies... don't think as an individual, think as a country, cause that's where your human rights are preserved...can an idealist country exist and survive with no military? NOPE.. So if the other party won't recognize my human rights I won't recognize theirs.. it's either me or them...and that's why as an ex-Muslim I take a militant stance against Islam.. cause in a Muslim majority country you won't have any rights, and whatever the type of your enemy is if he refuses to compromise then don't allow him to form a majority or you lose.

The principle of tolerance should never be extended to bigots and fascists. You cannot reason with someone that wants you dead or under their control, you stand up and show what a coward they are.

Tolerance is a contract. It can only be extended to those willing to do the same in return. Theists - and some Muslims are exceptionally bad examples of this - will call for tolerance when they are in the minority, and mock the idea when they are in a position of dominance.

A tolerant country cannot(and should not) tolerate the IN-tolerant.

Daniel has over 300 k subscribers. That is terrifying.

@@canalcna685 Hahahaha 300k? 300k? The ideas Daniel is defending has more or less support among hundreds of millions in the Muslim world. I live in a Muslim country, these Daniel types are everywhere here. I know these people like the back of my hand. That 300k is only the tip of the iceberg. You naive westerners truly have very little idea of what you're dealing with. But slowly and surely you guys will have a rude awakening one day.

@@oishikhasan8500 wow! scary!!your comment needs to be seen but got hidden by youtube.

@@canalcna685 I know. There is no reason to hide it.

@@oishikhasan8500 youtube sucks with the censorship!

So that's every Muslim in a debate. You will get use to it

Islam is like a form of OCD.

@@30yearsoldiam1 I watched several already, but never noticed the ridiculousness of it before, probably because Daniel once even mentioned him in 5 consecutive sentences and every time had to utter "peace be upon him", which just made the sentences longer and interrupted his train of thought and I thought it so absurd I had to laugh. I thought that if I was in the audience I would give him some question about Mohammed just to see him squeeking "peace be upon him" like a sqeeky toy whenever he mentions Mohammed.

We’ve come a long way

He goes in word salad so quick

Fairly sure Matt has already debated him.

​@@loki6626 Thanks. I guess I should have searched before asking.

@@veerswami7175 Thanks for lowering my expectations ;-)

I haven't heard a single one that was even vaguely coherent. They are all terrible.

Muslim apologists they learn from christian apologists and then they overdose it.

The most knowledgeable muslims they don’t debate except for few exceptions But most of the times they teach in fact fare number of traditional are against debate because they see it as a sport not something beneficial

@@hassanbadrek2726 Ah yes the classic justification that all the “good” or “knowledgeable” people don’t ever take part. They never seem to be the ones speaking to other on behalf of your religion. If they don’t see a debate as beneficial then they don’t have anything useful to give. So far these knowledgeable Muslims you mention don’t seem to be the ones anyone knows about.

To be fair, it fits the sort of vile horrors that God is depicted as ordering or engaging in in the mythology. It's the claim that this slaver child rapist is somehow 'morally perfected' which is so heartbreaking

Which drugs? And how do you justify overriding someone else's rights?

⁠@@SansDeity matt you said children should be indoctrinated in secular ideas and ideologies isn’t that considered overriding someone else rights?

Who says taking drugs is a right?

Careful. "Heavyweight versus new born" is Daniel's most searched pornhub fetish

It still doesn't help that Daniel got his time in the debate program to spew slurs and be dishonest with the audience. To those who expected a more sensible and reasonable debate. We were held hostage to his crazy ideology and religion.

@@kentkvalnes4621 I see this to be a trend with Muslim debaters. Also, Modern Day Debate tends to have these kinds of mediation issues.

This is revisionist. There was a lot of criticism of the radical Muslim attack.

There is still a lot of criticism around.

At the time, nothing of substance since.@@GameTimeWhy

Citation?@@freddan6fly

@@maxmac7845 what are you even talking about? You just shifted the goalposts.

Can you prove it?

Give your opponent the beat opportunity to make the strongest case. Either you learn something, or, when they are defeated, it's a final defeat.