Diagnosing a misfire on a 2009 Ford E250 Van

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Diagnosing a misfire on a 2009 Ford E250 Van using the Automotive Test Solutions eSCOPE Elite, iEA (intelligent Engine Analyzer), and Pressure Transducers.

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@luisbenitez3428
@luisbenitez3428 9 ай бұрын
This guy is on another level, You do not come around these guys too often
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie you are an inspiration. That was simply brilliant and well-explained 🙂👍
@mike-yp1uk
@mike-yp1uk 3 ай бұрын
This channel is great for learning characteristics of wave patterns. I have to watch these more than once to understand it. Lol awesome
@d-s-ll2378
@d-s-ll2378 3 жыл бұрын
You are the anormaly shooting master in our circle!
@tech1302
@tech1302 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen one 4.6 dohc in a Mercury Marauder have a worn out key slot on the wheel. Definitely not a normal issue but apparently it does happen. What I do know is most shops don't even know what a lab scope is let alone how to use it for diagnosis. GREAT VIDEO thanks
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 3 жыл бұрын
This diagnoses deserves more than just one thumbs up. Bernie just told us how the magic trick is done.👍👍 Nice!
@hddm3
@hddm3 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Bernie is on another level. Never seen this type of diag. Amazing
@carlosmalave9467
@carlosmalave9467 3 жыл бұрын
Only the mechanics that threw parts at this vehicle gave thumbs down! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@kevinbarry4325
@kevinbarry4325 Жыл бұрын
65 percent of mechanics suck. Unless they are taking a part off, put new one on Duh... No Diagnostic skills whatsoever..
@martymurphy9627
@martymurphy9627 3 жыл бұрын
I am amazed coming across this channel. I am wondering why so far only 7k subscribers. I am going to let many more aware of here.
@michaelbuela8403
@michaelbuela8403 2 жыл бұрын
Good Engineer, Good Quality Tools and Technology.
@jwhiz3219
@jwhiz3219 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie, You are absolutely right. Using quality equipment along with a method of best practice to capture and analyze the data is key to finding problems. I see the first 2 pieces of data you collected was the CRANK POS SIGNAL and the #1 coil signal. Then you retested with a pressure transducer, getting a reliable mechanical reference by way of cylinder compression and cycles. It still showed the ripple of the crank signal. Once you proved that the fault was a loose crank reluctor wheel and then repaired it, I appreciated your follow up to show a good crank signal with the tight reluctor wheel. THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT DEMONSTRATIONS!
@jcmobilediagnostics8611
@jcmobilediagnostics8611 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Bernie! Pico can graph the frequency of the crank but the E-scope does it flawlessly!
@anthonydargenio3536
@anthonydargenio3536 2 ай бұрын
Great explanation of the VVT trying to compensate for the loose chain
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Experience and the right tools won. I've never seen that before, and where I worked before retirement, we had V10 and V8 Ford vans from 1997 up to 2004 MY. Great Diagnostics. Knowing how to read the scope pattern has shown the problem.
@rusty1187
@rusty1187 3 жыл бұрын
The more i see this software in action, the more impressed i am! I originally thought the price tag a bit high, but after watching a few of these diagnostic procedures, I cant wait to purchase this! i can easily replace at least 4 diagnostic tools with this!
@8SecSleeper
@8SecSleeper 8 ай бұрын
How's it working out for you
@rusty1187
@rusty1187 8 ай бұрын
@@8SecSleeper have not bought one yet, the price tag is a bit steep: $1500.00 last i checked. but it does have some features that none of my scan tools can do.
@ELEISONCARABALLO
@ELEISONCARABALLO 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome knowledge, Awesome equipment and awesome diagnostic. Congrats
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 2 жыл бұрын
PRODIGY Automotive Test Solutions 👌 From the start to finish loved it thank you very much Automotive Test Solutions From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
@johnsanchez2415
@johnsanchez2415 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bernie for sharing this information it shows me how valuable a tool like the Escan elite can be in diagnosing
@autocarespecialist9590
@autocarespecialist9590 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie you the man.Thanks for sharing....
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK 3 жыл бұрын
As I've heard other sage techs preach, "Never trust your scan tool data!" LOL really enjoyed the diagnosis. Thanks so much!
@jhauna1
@jhauna1 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute mastery, great job again Bernie.
@jeremystone6613
@jeremystone6613 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bernie, incredible to watch you problem solve
@ismarmeskovic
@ismarmeskovic 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic diag!thank you Mr.Thompson!
@turningwrenchesautorepairm5017
@turningwrenchesautorepairm5017 3 жыл бұрын
Dang !!! Good tool and experience... Nice find and fix Bernie
@exmotorsports
@exmotorsports 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing stuff Bernie. Thank You so much for sharing your wisdom with us.
@markferraro5250
@markferraro5250 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that was cool. All the best BT
@paulberumen9258
@paulberumen9258 3 жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@theautomotivedoctormr.wils9217
@theautomotivedoctormr.wils9217 3 жыл бұрын
Still finding ways to utilize the escope for further testing . Thanks for adding another valuable test to my arsenal .
@lawsonkarsyn677
@lawsonkarsyn677 2 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie you are a F ing genius and your tools are awesome! I wish I could give you 50 thumbs up!
@MrDdriesse
@MrDdriesse 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your diagnosis Bernie. I appreciate your presentation and explanations in your work. Dave
@lawsonthursfield6950
@lawsonthursfield6950 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie many thanks for sharing your wisdom with this case study. One of the best if not the best video I’ve seen.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive diagnosis with an impressive diagnostic tool. Thanks!
@jgeorges3061
@jgeorges3061 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie, you are AWESOME always good information and what an excellent tool u have.cheeeeers
@thisisausername1265
@thisisausername1265 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, brilliant findings.
@EliTheOBDTech
@EliTheOBDTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise in the automotive world. Great videos!!!
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded 2 жыл бұрын
You diagnosed something that would have taken a shop tons of money and parts in 5 mins. I am so damn impressed by you Bernie
@edwinbrewer1789
@edwinbrewer1789 3 жыл бұрын
At 16:18 I believe the cursor was placed a touch further to the right. I believe that added a peak on your crank signal. To be clear I don't think it changed your result. Thank you Bernie for sharing these videos. I am learning a bunch!
@joemikos900
@joemikos900 2 жыл бұрын
You are incredible Sir, not only a brilliant tech but a gifted teacher. Thank you for taking the time to produce these videos and share your knowledge!
@eliteautomotivediagnostics4424
@eliteautomotivediagnostics4424 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome work Bernie.
@FinalStopMobileAutoTech
@FinalStopMobileAutoTech 3 жыл бұрын
More gold from Bernie!! Keep em comin!!!
@ignaciosanchez5813
@ignaciosanchez5813 Жыл бұрын
what a great video my respects for you sr that motivates me more to get back in college
@richborzea4589
@richborzea4589 3 жыл бұрын
very thorough explanation.
@chrisi1909
@chrisi1909 3 жыл бұрын
WOW - blown away !! This is the worlds best diagnostics i have yet seen ! You are sooooo good !! Shown it, explained it, fixed it !
@joshr8176
@joshr8176 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great diagnosis, please keep pointing out the anomalies in the wave forms as that helps all of us, including some of us using less powerful scopes and tools. The wave forms with information, I feel is the key factors, not always the specific tool. ( I understand this is to help sell a tools platform.)
@davidgonzalez-sd7qd
@davidgonzalez-sd7qd 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time , God bless you
@ganeshnarayan5505
@ganeshnarayan5505 3 жыл бұрын
Great video i learned something today by u thank you.
@IAMNOSLEEP
@IAMNOSLEEP 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome... Thanks for sharing Bernie. Cheers.
@brianmason1414
@brianmason1414 3 жыл бұрын
Newer subscriber here.....all vids I've watched are VERY well explained....my only issue, I wish I would've started watching you sooner. I'm jokingly saying this b/c I'm learning SSOO much from you.... even w some of the vehicles I've fixed, your knowledge makes me feel I should be on tires and oil changes.😄😄 Thank you!
@shakeelsss
@shakeelsss 6 ай бұрын
I am always impressed
@jondoes7836
@jondoes7836 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing troubleshooting. All that because some rookie didn’t install the harmonic balancer properly.
@ZIGZAGPRODUCER
@ZIGZAGPRODUCER Жыл бұрын
A true Mechanic!
@michaelpeters5007
@michaelpeters5007 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool video it’s remarkable how after that first waveform he made the call… had he been by himself he probably would have just called it and moved on… showed all of us the theory for our benefit
@romanosautomotive
@romanosautomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Bernie. I think I want an eScope now!
@jeremystone6613
@jeremystone6613 3 жыл бұрын
Romano's Automotive maybe we need a group buy😏
@romanosautomotive
@romanosautomotive 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremystone6613 let's do it! Set us up Bernie 👌
@jeremystone6613
@jeremystone6613 3 жыл бұрын
I notice Ozwide Tools in Melbourne is an agent
@jameswasher3938
@jameswasher3938 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow!.
@SimplyDiagnostics
@SimplyDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome case study Bernie, I need to use this function more. As a long time Pico user the learning curve on your scope has been steep. The truth is, the comfier I get with the escope, it's fast becoming the first one I pick up for fast diagnosis. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@carlodonnell146
@carlodonnell146 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bernie !!!!!!!!!
@spiraldarian
@spiraldarian 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@1fnjoreinhofer940
@1fnjoreinhofer940 3 жыл бұрын
The scope diagnostics and theory are awesome , but typically if the damper isn't fully seated there be other clues where to start looking , like customer mentioned it started running lousy ever since the front crankshaft seal replaced, and serpentine belt noisey afterwards. Luckily loose damper didn't trash the crankshaft, and end up needing the motor replaced. I think I would have pulled the crank sensor and looked inside with snake camera and tried a little pushpull on the trigger wheel with a long blade screw driver or pick, and try tightening the damper bolt before pulling the entire front of motor off if it didn't have chain noise or cam crank correlation besides.
@helalbouhasson3696
@helalbouhasson3696 3 жыл бұрын
You are a great one 🤓💪🏻
@vadymbabaiev5644
@vadymbabaiev5644 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic 👏 👏 👏
@MechanicTechnicianRepair
@MechanicTechnicianRepair 3 жыл бұрын
exselentes dianostico maetro mui buen vidio saludes noel matute
@Carlitosway211
@Carlitosway211 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you burn the shop without outright burning the shop. "What we need to do is actually diagnosis it"... LOL But man, some of these shops. Sending em out without verifying the repair.
@danman9017
@danman9017 3 жыл бұрын
wow very good thanks
@YuckFou0x0FFFF
@YuckFou0x0FFFF 2 жыл бұрын
I always love your videos because everyone thinks a Tech's job is so simple that instead of paying for a diagnostic, you can simply go to an Auto Parts and they will tell you exactly what you need free! Wrong!!! With that logic, if I have a burning sensation in my loins I should just go to the Pharmacy so they can tell me what I have and prescribe the right medicine.
@kennedysgarage3281
@kennedysgarage3281 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Bernie, no more to be said 👍
@vvvspqr
@vvvspqr 4 ай бұрын
Good. I’m taking my van to your shop
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the power balance graph would have shown? If you see drop outs in the graph, but don't feel it missing that could be an indication of crank sensor signaling issues? Then it would be time to break out the scope and pressure transducer?
@EXOVCDS
@EXOVCDS 3 жыл бұрын
How is it that your scan tool can get live sensor data (coolant temperature, battery volts, vacuum etc) at the left of the screen while going to get mode 6 data? Every scan tool that I have ever used can only do one task at a time. Live data, mode 6, monitors etc. while eScan seems to be getting info from all different options at the same time, or at least allows you to (what it looks like).
@swordofthelord7104
@swordofthelord7104 3 жыл бұрын
Pico need to up their game!
@scientist100
@scientist100 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the processing something similar to the negative channel in the pico scope feature? I'm trying to figure out what that process data does, I think that is achievable with the pico processing part but I don't know for sure.
@bigfootemobileauto9734
@bigfootemobileauto9734 2 жыл бұрын
@@scientist100 Did you do more research and find out what the Pico can do there?
@scientist100
@scientist100 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigfootemobileauto9734 no, havent really tried this, still using old methods to identify random misfire with a secondary probe.
@memphis_sean8169
@memphis_sean8169 3 ай бұрын
This guy is intense 😮
@borys7947
@borys7947 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@chadchiasson7768
@chadchiasson7768 3 жыл бұрын
Great catch, but lm puzzled why the tone ring is moving ( even with the loosened harmonic pulley bolt)? My 97 f150 4.6 Windsor has a tone ring keyed with the crankshaft. Is this one set up differently? Just did a timing job (PM) and had to reuse my CS bolt. I purchased the wrong one ( I know torque to yield bolt) but reuse it. Going to change out but expect the tone ring position to still be good, or am I mistaken. Thanks
@madmike214
@madmike214 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing! Can this be done with other scopes? I want an escope so bad! Planning on an escan elite first though
@2nickles647
@2nickles647 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Buy a Pico scope. The tool that Bernie has is built into his tool.
@rogerpatrick3642
@rogerpatrick3642 3 жыл бұрын
I need your class 😺
@garymichalak5379
@garymichalak5379 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie..... have you ever had one that stumped you? I watched the Charger 5.7 misfire, and thought that was brilliant how you diagnosed it.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if you watched the signal live at say a smaller time base and set a trigger on a compression peak. Then watch the crank signal shift back and forth against the trigger point.
@calimesacox
@calimesacox 3 жыл бұрын
Can this testing be done on any scope? Or can it be done on a snsp on vantage? And do we need a cylinder pressure sensor? Not that I don't want a eSCOPE its that I got bit by the snsp on bug and was able to buy on credit/ payments. Thank you Berney Thompson.. And do you want a brand new Vantage in trade for a eSCOPE?
@crispinnable
@crispinnable 3 жыл бұрын
Genial 👍
@johnbriscoejr9738
@johnbriscoejr9738 Жыл бұрын
Bernie, could you have use an oscilloscope and discovered the same pattern as the firing order pattern?
@deathschmelda
@deathschmelda 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a guy like this in Austin TX?
@florenbaron7111
@florenbaron7111 3 ай бұрын
Where are you located? I have a 2008 E250.
@charlesmecum5009
@charlesmecum5009 8 күн бұрын
What's ur rate per hour, and is it like first hour diag then add more time if u go over I'm assuming
@lupopina3616
@lupopina3616 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t the same test be done by comparing crank and camshaft relationship? I mean trying to detect the movement on the reluctor wheel for crankshaft.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 3 жыл бұрын
That would be really difficult to see if you were referencing it off of the cam signal because of chain lash and VVT phaser action. You really need a point of reference that is consistent such as cylinder pressure.
@jharrison6557
@jharrison6557 9 ай бұрын
Amazing. The average car owner has no clue how incredibly complex diagnosing modern vehicles can be and the associated costs for diagnostic equipment necessary to do that. On a side note, what were the pink/purple lines with the cylinder numbers above them you were using to compare ignition and transducer signals against?
@Iamandthatiam
@Iamandthatiam Жыл бұрын
Where are you located?
@yam1873
@yam1873 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@johnferreira9223
@johnferreira9223 3 жыл бұрын
Huh???? ....w0w!!!! I just got a '96 E250 for free. Now I'm scared to work on it. Dammmm....... I think he is way over my head. It's a van ...... Not a spaceship! Lol. I haven't use an oscilloscope since when I was an 2001 electrical Apprentice.
@kevinbarry4325
@kevinbarry4325 Жыл бұрын
Find a local car crusher, at least you'll get a couple hundred for the junk..
@STBRetired1
@STBRetired1 3 жыл бұрын
I can remember not so long ago when you didn't need a PhD and tens of thousands of dollar in test equipment to fix your car or truck. It's sad that industry had to over complicate car technology. Seems like there would be simpler and cheaper ways to reduce emissions and that would make cars simpler and cheaper to produce and maintain.
@kevinbarry4325
@kevinbarry4325 Жыл бұрын
People ask me why I drive old trucks,vans and car I CAN PUT PARTS ON..the new cars today are a confusing mess..unless you have endless amt of money to waste..
@memphis_sean8169
@memphis_sean8169 3 ай бұрын
should've been done the first time but definitely by the second time back...
@rschreck876
@rschreck876 Жыл бұрын
So the shop replaced a bunch of parts (charging the customer a ton of money) BEFORE actually diagnosing the problem? Hopefully this shop isn’t anywhere near me.
@kevinbarry4325
@kevinbarry4325 Жыл бұрын
They are on every other corner across the land .
@halleffect1
@halleffect1 2 жыл бұрын
Bernie says to use logical, accurate thinking but unfortunately that's in short supply. Sadly enough most people would just keep throwing parts at it until they gave up.
@bunnyhall116
@bunnyhall116 Жыл бұрын
Intakes are bad to get a vacuum leak...trust me... .lol
@bradleycreamer3470
@bradleycreamer3470 Жыл бұрын
wow I hate ford. need to take the whole thing apart to change out coil and plugs. thanks for the info
@rattha70
@rattha70 2 жыл бұрын
Why I hate ford.
@Ronjonsensorrow
@Ronjonsensorrow 8 ай бұрын
Your detective. Like automoBatman. The first moto loco guy is like this too. Detective.
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