Drukhari player-"Wait, they still sell models?"

Dire Avengers don't have mold lines, they have mold ridges.

I love my sisters... But most of them are monopose and yet so hard to put together without leaving obvious gaps, etc. The whole point of being monopose is that you have a cool pose while being easy to assemble!

You baiting us with the new Terminator kit is Criminal. luv me emprah, luv me crux terminatus, luv me first company, simple as.

The outriders having gaps is due to the push fit design of the models. the parts comprising the 2 halves of the bike have cylindrical pegs that goes inside cylindrical sockets. If you put a lot of glue on either the peg or the socket, it gets trapped inside the socket and compressed by the cylinder. Eventually there's a limit to how much the glue can be compressed so when you set the model down to go build something else, the two halves separate. The easiest fix for this is to trim down or clip off the pegs entirely, leaving no gaps.

I will never not hate tomb blades. Every time I assemble a tomb blade, I shave off an entire year of my lifespan.

The Slaaneshi Daemon chariot is an absolute nightmare to build

The clear plastic flight stands get a bad reputation, but I will 100% take them over the "Oh shit I caught my toe on a rock again." style they have. I feel so bad for anybody who bought that new CSM jump lord. He looks so goofy!

I remember the Finecast launch. The quality checking was hideous. It didn't help that the key-timer at my local store was constantly trying to gaslight everyone about the quality of the kits.

The ones you need to grab with tongs if you don't want to perforate your hands. Aka good percentages of the Chaos, Dark Eldar and Tyranid models.

My latest assembly was the Redemptor Dreadnought. That bugger took me 4-5h of assembly! Why are there so many parts that require to be assembled, only to be hidden under a plate of armor? Also, the piston that attaches the leg to the hip, my god. You have to glue the ring around the hip, without gluging the ring to the hip. Finally, there are some pieces that are supposed to fit perfectly so that you don't have to glue them and thus keep an articulated body. Yeah well the bottom latch over the coffin is stuck, in my case. And I had to trim the armpits's joints for a solid half hour to make them rotate, otherwise my Dread would have been stuck in a T pose

Looters/Burners. Your kit may suck, mine is straight up missing arms

So the Ork Kommandos were the first 40k Model Kit I ever built and they were horrible to put together due to their parts being spread across three different sprues. I had built other plastic models (Gundam) before and this initially put me off 40k a bit. Thankfully other models were not as bad in that regard. However, just recently I had a similar experience with the Night Lords kill team. I understand that the base of them is a regular CSM Legionaries kit, but they also have parts all over the place for individual miniatures, but at least similar parts are grouped together (e.g. all the backpacks are together). I guess though this could be helped if GW had a sensible numbering scheme on their sprues, where parts were numbered according to location on the sprue, rather than according to when they show up in the instructions.

I despise the Bloodletters kit. The moldlines are obscene, there's a mandatory gap-filling required on every forehead, and the swords are often noticeably bent and warped.

There is a reason I kitbashed my Stompa from a Stompa-kit and an old monolith. I already have to fix half the model and the instructions are unreadable, so why not do it properly?

I’ll add the Eldar Wave serpent specifically because of its flight stand. It doesn’t use a modern flight stand, it uses an ultra thin one attached by a little thiner stud on the end. These flight stand are attached to the second heaviest model in Eldar behind the wraithknight and resin stuff and just break all the time. I have bought two and both have broken in the first game I used them in so I don’t really have stands for them anymore.

What about models with extreme overhang? Like the Tyranid toxicrene. So hard to move around the board without accidentally shoving those tentacles into everything. 🙃

The original plastic rhino. In addition to being really small, the antenna, exhaust pipes, and back hatch handles would always break off.

Bonus points for all kits that're missing bits to build proper 10th Edition squads, Intercessors missing melee weapons, Crisis Suits not having 6 Fusion etc.

Instruction wise stompa definitely takes the cake. And the body is rough to fit if you get a bad kit. I remember the basilisk being pretty annoying too. The instructions were flat out wrong on the body

Bloodletters don't so much have mold lines as they are mold lines with models attached

The new Ork Boyz are a pretty bad kit since you can't actually build a proper unit from it, also still don't understand why they're push fit, I get if for the marines and necrons in the indomitus box/starter sets, but why did the Orks get push fit models?

My recent experience- the online-only Land Raider was NOT square, took a lot of trimming and gap filling to get it together, definitely showing its age. Also dishonourable mention for Custodes shoulder pads, they do NOT sit flush on the arms, so not enough contact area to glue them properly, needed to use putty or super glue for a bunch of them.

Necron immortals/deathmarks have been a pain for me recently. Having to glue together 3 parts simultaneously (gun, torso and arm), especially the immortal with the bonus 4th connection point of the gun's/torso's cables, has been a struggle to get them to align how I'd like!

another big issue for modern gw kits is how the models are split up for the sprue. Kit bashing and adjusting models are significantly harder due to where the seams are for a lot of kits. It’s bad enough that space marines, the most kit bashable army, can be a serious effort to do arm or weapon swaps or change posing on these monopose kits.

GW charges tamiya + prices for amazon grade products

eldar grav tanks. the falcon is the same kit that originally came out in 1997, it literally doesn't even have all the weapon options the falcon can take in the rules. for both the main body and upper turret, there's a pilot inside a cockpit, and the pilot glues into place and holds the hinge for the clear plastic cockpit glass. the way all these pieces fit together, you basically have to fully paint and varnish everything before you can finish assembling the model fully, because you won't be able to get a brush in there afterward. and then once you do that, the parts will not quite perfectly fit together (because the kit is so old) so you'll end up having to fill some gaps with green stuff or plastic putty, and then you'll need to re paint those areas where you dod that. combine all of that with the fact that it has a million weapon options that you will probably want to magnetize because of the insane rules churn in this game, and the fiddly flight stand it sits on... gorgeous models, but so much work to finish.

Yeh Inceptors are a pain, that connection point is awful and once it goes once you might as well start cutting down the model to magnetise it because it probably isn't gluing back. I fully magnetised my inceptors so with the flight stand issues they have been a lot of work, probably took me like 8 hours to put them all together, get all the magnets working and the flight stands.

Literally every daemon kit that isn't a greater daemon. All old, all finicky to put together.

My worst would be blood letters, the ones I made had such bad mould lines that they had webbed hands and the torsos did not fit the legs well at all

On the positive side, the Carnifex box is still an amazing product: you get all weapons you can dream off, extra heads and torsos and everything is easy to assemble and magnetize.

Another FW purge happened, Sky Talon and Vulture Gunships are now gone as well 😢

Another complex build would be the psychomancer. Trying to get those tendrills to stay put was a pain.

After building a fellblade a few weeks back that involved saws, a tube and a half of superglue, polyfilla, green stuff and a few bits of an old plastic ruler I'll never complain about the odd mould line or wonky fit on plastic kits again.

Pretty much all of the modern monopose million parts kits are awful. We used to have a simple system for posing and parts, and that was arms, head, body, legs, and extras. Now it's left lower leg, back of torso, head (attached to right arm), right half of jaw, left lower arm, upper hand attached to gun, left hand attached to gun, right leg attached to waist, etc. Why? Why continue to design minis like this?

The Kroot Farstalkers are even worse than the Kommandos. It's basically like them but with thin, microscopic arms- The sniper dude in particular is hell.

Some of the old metal kits were pretty bad, but by FAR the worst metal kit I ever tried was a zoanthrope. Trying to glue those giant heavy heads onto a stilt-like tentacle attached to the base was a pain, and had many set over night just to break instantly upon touch.

Getting into sisters recently. Can someone explain why the SoB kit is like 10 pieces a model? Specifically, why are the upper arms and forearms are separated? I swear, half the time building them is spent trying to figure out how that triangle aligns with the forearm, gun, and torso.

I strongly disliked putting together Sicarians (annoying legs). Also, mutant ogryn is too spiky for a PUSH-fit model. Plaguemarines is a bad model kit because it only builds 7 when you either field 5 or pay for 10.

I got the resin Trazyn and Orikan and they weren’t that hard to assemble though Trazyn really deserves a new model. Also had the issue with the Outriders. Skorpek destroyers fitment could also be improved, same with warriors.

Oh I have another mention! I got some scenery with the Imperium magazine collection. And it had the worse mould slip I've ever seen! You know the barrels on the twin bolters that sit atop the containers? They were so badly slipped that it looked like twin _storm bolters_ from certain angles. They were basically half a barrel stacked on top of another half a barrel. And the eagle motifs had beaks so wonky that even the RSPB would put them down...

That ball joint flight stand is a nightmare, all my dawn eagle jetbikes sit askew, glued onto them at weird angles because NONE of them sit on with friction fit. if any of them snap they're just going on hardware bolts. other then that, anything thats two-handed is a pain in the ass to line up.

For me, the most atrocious kit was Killteam Aeldari Corsairs. Parts for every model scattered across all three sprues. And on the sprues neither parts grouping or numbers didn't have any sense. You could have numbers 1, 69, and 420 together. But these were different parts for different models - i.e. Head from model A, leg from model C, and some random dangly bit you could optionally glue to model D or G. I swear, I've got few gray hairs from gluing these.

I built a flayed ones unit yesterday; it is a nightmare and a scam. I thought the new ones were bigger than before, They are really tiny (smaller than the new necron warriors) to justify that price for just one sprue. As you said, it a horrible kit: monopose miniatures + components that doesn't fit well or clearly in the pose needed + bad building instructions; when you try to glue the legs, the position where the legs fit it is not the position in pictures where the miniature can stand properly, so you fail, touch too much, suddenly a claw brokes because of it... Just watching the kit i dont understand why it is not a 10 miniatures box. Just greed and abuse. I built yesterday an old deathmark unit too, the multipose were soooo easy to build and the new monopose easy to build are so hard XD

Thank you for including the flayed ones. They are truly nightmarish creatures but mainly for this reason. Psychomancer is also a menace in this regard.

GW metal minis were great until they started making them more elaborate than the material could handle. The 3-4 edition dwarfs were amazing, for example.

My girlfriend picked Orks as her faction. after saying lootas/boyz were easy and she didn't understand my complaints, I had her build a trukk with the old instructions 🤣

Funfact: The Dire Avengers had a second plastic Kit before based on the Guardian sprues with 8 Modells and some Updates Sprues für the Dire Avengers.

Ork Deffkopters, why did these not use flyer bases? A helicopter attached to scenery just seems wrong, not to mention easy to bend or break.

I'm surprised there aren't more mentions of that finecast resin Wolf Lord on thunderwolf/Harald model. It's a trial by fire for a lot of Wolves players and it really is absolutely horrendous. Even when done the fur looks half-melted and getting all of his facial features is a crapshoot. It's so bad that I know people who have literally given up on the model half way through, sold it on the cheap half-done and then just bashed him together from another box of TWC.

Sad Warp Spider sounds. We also need more different, Imperial guard armies. Not just bloody Cadians. Catachan, Mordian Iron guard, Valhallian Ice warriors, etc. Maybe even proper Gaunts Ghosts Guards.

👍👍 I think I've said this already but I'd love to see a modern plastic kit for building "Tankbustas OR Nobz", with a decent amount of options on the sprue!

The good thing about the catachans are how posable and customisable they are. I've made all sorts of biker squads, vehicle crews and custom characters out of them.

The Skorpek Destroyers and the Skorpek Lord deserve a mention, they were a pain to get them to fit together. The other Necron kits not mentioned I had issues with are Wraiths and sword and board Lychguard. The Wraiths have parts that break off all the time despite my best efforts to transport them carefully and the Lychguard have problem staying together, I have had add terrain to support most of the shields to stop the arms from coming off and the upside down sword I had to epoxy to get it to say on.

I just paid 165.00 CAD for a skarbrand. The box says AoS on it but the instructions only show the 40k build. When I pay that kind of money for a model I want full build instructions!

The Primaris Librarian in Terminator armor is pretty infamous. Every month there is a reddit post of someone that didn't check the instructions quite conpletely and are stuck with a headless librarian.

That was a good video. I very much enjoyed it. I hope they have a resculpt of all of the Death Korps resin models. Having some updated Death Riders and Heavy Weapon Teams would be neat.

I love land raiders, but I’ll never buy another non-heresy land raider. The basic/redeemer/Crusader kit is the worst 40k kit I’ve built. Spent a weekend with it tied in elastic bands to keep it together so it didn’t move around while drying, and it’s still got the wobbles. The actual 40k basilisk instructions aren’t even correct, same with the Baneblade kit’s track assemblies. The gap on outriders can be fixed by cutting out the push fit pins. The gap starts because there was too much glue used on the pin. I’ll take flying stands over whatever they did with the new jump marines and chaos lord.

Crazy, I did not realise plastic dire avengers were already that old

I recently put some Gunpla/Gundam kits together. They really are very well laid out sprues, easy to understand instructions and lovely molds with no real clean up needed Plus coloured plastic is great

Literally any model with lots of flat surface to flat surface connection points. Putting together 10 wraithguard before I got a pin vice was fucking awful

Its not 40k, but possibly the worst model kits ever are the spirit hosts for nighthaunt, and the corpse cart for Soulblight in AoS. Both those kits are incredibly frustrating to assemble.

Paragon Warsuits and Seraphim / Zephyrim are the bane of my existence to build.

as someone who has just gotten back into the hobby i can say pinning the odd model together was nowhere near as frustrating as trying to put together a squad of pathfinders., the sheer amount of pre assembly painting i've had to do on one squad outweighs the effort it took just to paint say bolters or shuriken catapults.

i remember the first ork boy kit i built. every heavy weapon option was in it, the choice of all shoota or slugga/choppa and tons of boss options.

Some nice flashbacks to my old hobby days with this. Used to LOVE putting together the 20 Catachans you got in the box. Everything being a separate piece did often lead to some odd poses you might have to redo once you see it all together. Would love to see them redone and scaled down slightly similar to what the Cadian range looks like now. My pet peeves were certainly flying bases. Every landspeeder I had got broken at some point and ended up sitting on the ground. The old ones were crappy and I've never tested the new. Feels like they need to be a tripod design or something to have more contact points and thus more strength? Magnets certainly a good way to go. Some of my old pet peeves were things like the old metal models not having bases? Things like dreadnoughts etc. where they were just a huge chunk of metal that easily got knocked over... Anything small and pointy was liable to get broken at some point. While metal wasn't fun to work with, characters were certainly nice.

I found the Sanctum Administratus scenery kit a bit strange to assemble, you have to cut off part of one of the pieces for it to fit together which confused me.

I'm to this day wondering if I'm the only one who has the problem with the Tzaangor kit. Lot of their models have one of their knees have little to no detail due to the casting problem. I got several different sprues from different sources and all of them have this issue that drives me nuts.

The reason I liked the first wave of trying to change (at least the troops) to plastics (1996-2000ish) was that you could fairly easily do minor conversions and reposition bits so that no two miniatures looked alike. My gripe with today's kits is that they're difficult to modify without a lot of work or require more kitbashing to get everyone looking different.

The Magnus the red model has an error in the instructions and I went insane looking for a number that wasn't on the spru

My brother has had terrible luck with the flight stands. Maybe it's cause it's clear plastic so it interacts with the glue we use differently, or much slower. But he has never gotten one to work. So his inceptors are actually directly standing on the base now cause he got lazy. And our glue is 'concrete glue' melts the two pieces together for a good fit. And now it's not as top heavy cause of that as a strange bonus.

The old Catachan squads are my favorite. So much potential. I made 3 8th edition vet squads, 2 command squads, Gunny Harker, and Straken with mine and a few random bits from some other kits. Along with three Sentinels, Three Tauroxes, a Chimera, A Russ and a Valk that was my original Imperial Guard Army. Per GW's ever changing rules its unplayable, not that I care what those money grubbers think anymore.

I'm glad I could find corrected instructions for the Krieg killteam. Somehow, GW hasn't fixed the wrong number printed in the instructions for one of the arms.

any model with 2 handed melee weapons I find to be nightmarish to put together. Especially with Necrons, the have such skinny arms that you need to glue to a staff/blade, pull them apart enough to go on the body, and then push together and hope the pose you've created isn't too weird. Even with Deathmarks/Immortals I struggled so maybe a skill issue but still...

Have you seen the Death Jester? That kit has a mysterious third arm!? thing that doesn't fit right. Genuine puzzling assembly.

Definitely agree with the drop pod. I actually got one early back in the day. It was clear that they were very new to the concept of digital design; some some components were designed with compensation for the slight angle (necessary for mold release) of mating parts, but others were a flat and awkward butt joint. Plus, joint tolerances were too tight in some places, making assembly harder. Guiding lugs at the base of the wings especially would have aided construction, if they had made just one change.

The Catachan kit is a weird one, even from day one. They were taller then the era First-Born Marines. The heads were goofy, even GW couldn't get it right and they're still using the same models. However, 25yrs on, I can remember going into GW Meadowhall and buying a box of them. They're simple to build and got people into doing an imperial guard army. For the time they were great, but I'd prefer more variety in the guard uniforms, which I doubt we'll see given the current world politics. I'd love to see plastic Tallarns as I like the lore over them

*_Space Marines Incestors!_* The normal, Assault, and Hell Blasters. They're just so boring, being pushfit. When there was only one sculpt for all 10 soldiers, it was acceptable - suspension of disbelief, or perhaps they were just all standing uniformly. You could have 30 marines all standing the exact same way and that made sense because they're "in formation". But there's something wrong when you get the same sprinting posture on 5 or 6 guys. They're supposed to be distinct from each other, but that makes the problem _worse._ On top of that, we've had far more dynamic and customisable Tactical Squads since 1998! And I know that Necron Skorpekh Destroyers, for example, only have three scuplts. But you can make them run "in formation" by making it look like each unit is in part of the same protocol, just at different stages. Either give us open customisation or give us uniformity! Compromise helps nobody here.

What about Tyranid warriors? Kit is from the early 2000's and most of the range just got updates. One of the key units got left out but gaunts, genestealers etc got a remake..

Pushfit Infernus Marines disappointed me as a Salamanders player. :( hideous mold slippage and lots more hobbying needed as opposed to the supposedly 'more time consuming' standard kit.

Heavy Intercessors, got this for christmas, I really wanted to like it but the amount of mould lines is an absolute joke, i spent more time filing them down than building them.

Ork Trukks- the driver is a royal PIA to put in when you follow the instructions.

Worst nightmare to build are sister paragon suits

Putting together the psychomancer made me question myself and my life choices. For some reason every join point is the smallest it can be, and you often have to support multiple pieces at the same time.

I have to admit only ever had plastic models since I picked up 40K but I was surprised that when I bought the re-released Tomb Kings of Khemri for the Old Kingdom - so many of the models are made of metal there. Do they use the re-release to empty those corners of the warehouse of expensive unsold kits.

That gap in the Outriders is very real. I had to patch them with sprue goo and sand them forever. It took far longer than building and drilling every barrel and muffler.

Khorne Bloodletters absolutely suck as well. You need to glue both legs and the torso together seperately which can cause massive gaps in such small models

From Harlequins, the Death Jester is an absolute nightmare to put together. The final model looks great, but the parts just don't fit well, and you will feel have to force them together whilst praying you don't break anything

What really drives me up the walls is the apparent lack of quality control with the instructions. The Ork Meganobz, for example, have just straight up errors in the instructions, listing wrong part numbers.

I 100% agree about Necron Flayed Ones being one of the worst kits to assemble. I own 12 Outriders across my 3 SM chapters and half of them had those annoying gaps on the top of the bikes. I don’t own a Dropship but I’m familiar with the difficulty of a vehicle model with opening/closing doors: The Land Raider! The first one I built (Redeemer/Crusader), it took me multiple tries to get the assault ramp doors working. I had to pull the vehicle apart MULTIPLE times to get the mechanism to work properly. Fortunately, I used plastic cement instead of glue so the parts came apart without anything breaking and the cosmetic damage to the plastic was internal and hidden. Also, magnetizing the Land Raider’s sponson weapons and side panels was challenging. I wish GW included the extra parts to make two pairs of sponson turrets that can be magnetized into the side panels, instead of having to magnetize the guns and side covers. Also, the sponson guns’ swivel function is inconsistent; one is loose and swivels too easily; the other is tight and is difficult to swivel. I’d also say that ALL repulsor-type Space Marine vehicles are tedious to assemble because of all the parts in their repulsor panels. Tracked vehicles are much easier to assemble and don’t require bases.

The Metal Land speeders were a pain due to being top heavy & was kind of a loose loose at times if you either glued it to the base or having it placed on the stand

Noise Marines - They startes out as the only cult unit that was just an upgrade sprue for the regular CSM more than 20 years ago. Today they have that same upgrade sprue as Finecast, split into two seperate packs, for an old CSM box that is no longer available while the miniatures in the new box are too big 😢

Flight stands have always been my bane. I would like to know what joker thought a Fire Prism with heavy metal bits on the top of the model could fit well and be supported by a tiny plastic peg. All my recent builds use aftermarket clear acrylic rods and magnets.

Something barely mentioned is the new hormagaunt kits. Fantastic miniatures with great poses... But the mould lines are insane. Incredibly prominent for such a new sculpt, and on almost every piece. Putting that much cannon fodder together with such an effort almost made me give up on my new 'nid army.

Tip for flight stands that works well for me at least-cut down the flight stand and have the flying model with both feet on the ground and the flight stand at the back-this gives you a sort of tripod mount and makes them a lot sturdier at the expense of having to have them be mid-landing. That said I'm not sad that they're starting to be replaced.

I just got done building my first Trukk the other day. It is equal parts fun and frustrating to put together due to how much of the model doesn't quite fit together like it probably should. Half the model is also barely held together with small amounts of glue so that I can take the thing apart at a future point to paint it. I also was about ready to punch the designer of the Kommandos sprue in the face for the absolutely atrocious layout of all the pieces back when I was building them. It would have cost GW nothing to renumber everything more sensibly before sending the plans off to get the mold made.

Bit of a deep cut memory here, but nothing will ever beat a Warhammer Fantasy game, and seeing a proud Slann Mage-Priest being taken into battle on top of two cigarette boxes, his Saurus bearers flanking their new nicotine-chariot. My friend had tried ungodly amounts of superglue, but the internet was only just becoming a thing, and we had barely heard of pinning. It was actually a decent model though for the times. It was around then of course that we also got the original Abandon the No-Handed.

Death Jester. His back piece required a lot of pressure to get it to click into place. I swore it was going to break… everyone online seemed to have the same issue, some even having snapped the part.

The worst mold line I’ve seen since getting back into the hobby 4 years ago were on the Tau pathfinder kill team. After building modern kits going back to an older kit was rough. GW really has improved their quality over the years.

The one thing I run into are where they decide the spru should go. I don’t mind sanding the nubbin but my lord some kits you can’t even fit the slimmest of flush cutters in to snip them. The worst is delicate pieces on push to fit sprus. I get that they are made to be removed without cutters but often times this is impossible without cutting at least one nubbin free.