Converting a Starter Motor into a BLDC Motor

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Austin Blake

Austin Blake

Ай бұрын

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@user-ne3rb8ps8j
@user-ne3rb8ps8j 25 күн бұрын
For a no motor designer you did EXTREMELY impressive. But let me tell you a couple of things: Flat magnets, though can reduce torque up to 10%, won't make that much of a difference like you had. The motor should have pulled if everything else is ok. - Check if hall effect sensors are deep enough in the stator core so they are in front of the rotor magnets even if there is some misalignment; - check if the hall combination is correct, there are two of them which will spin the motor but one will produce torque; - double check magnet polarity.
@felipehcraftgamer4193
@felipehcraftgamer4193 17 күн бұрын
If the halls are wrong the current consunption would be high?
@user-ne3rb8ps8j
@user-ne3rb8ps8j 17 күн бұрын
@@felipehcraftgamer4193 yes, and no load RPM could be high aswell
@LoganDark4357
@LoganDark4357 14 күн бұрын
when the motor failed to turn I was screaming YOU WIRED IT WRONG!!! not it was wound wrong. Not the magnets were wrong. He 1000000% wired it wrong. Just because some wire configuration can spin the motor with no load doesn't mean that's the correct way to wire it up. He probably later wired it correctly by accident and then blamed it on the rotor
@user-ne3rb8ps8j
@user-ne3rb8ps8j 14 күн бұрын
@@LoganDark4357 back-EMF form will tell whether there is any winding or magnet troubles.
@LoganDark4357
@LoganDark4357 14 күн бұрын
@@user-ne3rb8ps8j reading some of the other comments I think it's also possible that it was the epoxy. In the video he literally acknowledged it was ferromagnetic and then proceeded to put a bunch of it around and between the magnets
@zagnut48219
@zagnut48219 Ай бұрын
Used to work in a shop running mills and lathes that did prototype work. That was a good deal. I think the JB weld putty is what threw your DIY rotor off, possibly the epoxy as well. You really need non-ferrous epoxies so you don't throw off the magnetic fields. Convert to belt drive or put a chain tensioner on the bike as well.
@laurencerilling5873
@laurencerilling5873 17 күн бұрын
No a flat block on a curved surface seriously weakens the B field. They need to touch, and minimize gaps
@A13tech
@A13tech Ай бұрын
Just a note, a ZF steering rack from bmw,mercedes etc. have very powerful servo motor (bldc) and can be bought very cheaply.
@rkan2
@rkan2 27 күн бұрын
Would be interesting to see such used in a project!
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 27 күн бұрын
And a ZF limited slip differential, from what I heard, is like two freewheels put together.
@th600mike3
@th600mike3 27 күн бұрын
⁠@@AmaroqStarwind any more specific info you can give on which zf lsd to look for?
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 26 күн бұрын
@@th600mike3 I'm just going by what Wikipedia said when I read about freewheels.
@th600mike3
@th600mike3 26 күн бұрын
@@AmaroqStarwindah bummer! lol well thanks for the info to look into
@kezzatries
@kezzatries 16 күн бұрын
I'm a motor rewinder of some 57 years experience on equipment from as small as dentists hand pieces (when they were electric) up to ships main drive armatures driven motors. You did good, I'd employ you.
@charlesstaton8104
@charlesstaton8104 Ай бұрын
I was afraid the comments section was going to be a cesspit, just a bunch of "congratulations you just built a BLDC motor out of a BLDC motor" and "wow, so pointless." I am glad to see that I was wrong and all the comments so far are positive. This is a really cool project and a great learning experience. Thank you for sharing about JY Stator, I have been keeping an eye out for years for somewhere to get custom laminations made and everything i found was ridiculously expensive. You've found the answer for me!
@xymaryai8283
@xymaryai8283 26 күн бұрын
it is super awesome to do a project this ambitious to learn, but it was pointless, the only thing left from the starter was the casing, i wanted to learn more about *why* a starter makes for a bad or good motor, and how to remanufacture it to be better, not that an almost from scratch ameteur BLDC motor is indeed an ameteur BLDC motor. keeping the old stator coils and rotor and instead improving the cooling and winding, maybe by machining the large few stator coils into double or triple the electromagnets would have been much more interesting
@charlesstaton8104
@charlesstaton8104 25 күн бұрын
@@xymaryai8283 Starter motors seem like a ton of power in a tiny package, and therefore an excellent candidate for an EV project. Not so.. a starter motor isn't a good EV motor because where most motors are rated for continuous duty, a starter is rated for intermittent duty. A starter might be rated (example) 5kW but if it were rated by the same criteria as other motors it probably couldn't claim to be more than 1kW. Starter motors make bad EV motors because you buy a 1kW motor to handle the job of a 5kW motor, because it claimed to be a 5kW motor. They have a LOT of torque in a small package but can't output it continuously without burning up. Like a drill. A corded or cordless drill might have enough torque to snap your wrist, but if you've ever used one at that torque level for more than a few seconds you probably know what it means to let the magic smoke out of a power tool. For an EV motor you need to choose a motor that is rated for continuous output. That motor is going to be a lot bigger than its similarly rated starter motor because it's ACTUALLY capable of delivering the rated power without going up in flames. If you wanted to remanufacture a starter motor to be a good EV motor all you would need to do is scratch off the rating plate and make a new one that reflects how much power it can actually output continuously without overheating. Then you will find that it is not the magical tiny powerhouse that it seemed. Its size is comparable to other motors with similar ratings.
@abdosssamo5666
@abdosssamo5666 24 күн бұрын
it's not building a BLDC motor out of BLDC motor it's the learning experience , i learned alot about BLDC from watching his video
@xymaryai8283
@xymaryai8283 15 күн бұрын
@@charlesstaton8104 well theres more you can do, the BLDC motor he ended up with was better than the starter motor, and thats largely because of the more optimised coil topology, i wanted to learn more about what specific parameters make a low duty cyle motor better at its task and how to get more continuous power out of it than it would otherwise manage
@Traderhood
@Traderhood 14 күн бұрын
Channel owner can remove any messages he wants.
@oom4539
@oom4539 25 күн бұрын
good work! also install some thermocouples to check the temperature of the stator winding while riding
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 11 күн бұрын
*Respect!* I tried to use a small 400kv bldc motor to drive my bike using emery paper on the outrunner bell pressed against the back tyre. It worked for a few meters and burnt out! Was incredibly hot to touch, but fortunately it looked like the magnets survived. It took a while - sourcing the right AWG of wire, 15T x 4 strands, 12 poies and 14 magnets, and finding a hydraulic press to release the core, took photos to record disassembly and managed to recreate winding layout and it worked first time! Would have been much easier to buy a new one, but the satisfaction was priceless!
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 20 күн бұрын
I've thought of many ways to make cheap motors, but unless your goal is just clicks for your channel (which is obviously the goal of many channels..) then you really need to think of where you can get cheap or almost free motors that are easy to modify. btw, I actually worked on converting a brushed dc motor into brushless. I suggest you start looking for big ceiling fans, almost free. These are a great choice, but in my efforts I discovered many have the number of poles not divisible by three, so no 3 phase. However, I've also learned that you don't have to build a 3-phase brushless motor! You can build a 4-phase one. A 3phase is just easier and uses less components, but that means NOTHING when you are doing it yourself for a one-off prototype. The other option that is now become easy to find is direct drive washing machines, they have large diameter 3 phase motors in them that can be modified for lots of power.
@icarossavvides2641
@icarossavvides2641 12 күн бұрын
I agree, seems like he's trying to re-invent the wheel? Also a very messy installation on the bicycle.
@charletonzimmerman4205
@charletonzimmerman4205 13 күн бұрын
Should use 'Slot Paper " & lacing for end turns also dip or pour varnish, of stator. US Navy rewinder, 2- years.
@Madkite
@Madkite 26 күн бұрын
Juat a tip on the cooling form befor. Forced air cooling. A crappy fan on the end of the old dunamos in the 50's chaged the output from 11A to 22A. Passive holes dont do a lot. Suck the air theough. Doesn't need jet engine aerodynamics. Just a spoked fan and inlet and outlets.
@dwang085
@dwang085 Ай бұрын
Dude the amount of work and technical understanding you’ve got to get through all this on your own is IMPRESSIVE!!🎉🎉🎉
@puntabachata
@puntabachata Ай бұрын
Thanks for walking us through. Great build!
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@afreestone101
@afreestone101 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for the fantastic video sharing your custom BLDC motor build for the bike! I've been looking to build a custom BLDC motor myself for a completely different application (small but powerful blower fan for a project I've been working on for years). Your mention of JY Stator suddenly had me glued to the rest of your video, as the stator was the very thing I've been having difficulty with! Incredible work on winding the stator by the way - it may have looked like mere minutes of work in your video (especially when you re-wound it!), but I know first hand that job can take HOURS! Keep up the awesome work - this is a truly rewarding hobby isn't it?
@felixyasnopolski8571
@felixyasnopolski8571 16 күн бұрын
For a blower I really recommend you to look into BLDC motors for rc models. They're small yet powerful
@mikkelr1
@mikkelr1 Ай бұрын
You know its a good day, when Austiwawa uploads! 👌
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dansacco1964
@dansacco1964 16 күн бұрын
Very cool project. Interesting trick for removing enamel from the mag wire: Melt an aspirin tablet with your soldering iron and dip the wire in the puddle. It eats the enamel off the wires quickly. It also makes dangerous smoke so use a fume hood or other good ventilation.
@bavankarthik7634
@bavankarthik7634 13 күн бұрын
When i started on electronics, I didn't even know that there was a coating on the wire. All the projects I did using it would fail due to this reason and i got soo furious that i just gave up..........until i realised it from a youtube short.
@WaffleStaffel
@WaffleStaffel 28 күн бұрын
Wow, that is persistence. Great job!
@pauljcampbell2997
@pauljcampbell2997 Ай бұрын
This was a very cool project. Regardless of the cost, the learning process was invaluable.
@amogusenjoyer
@amogusenjoyer Ай бұрын
150$ is insane. It wouldn't even cover the cost of getting your cad file checked out in some places here... especially if you are looking for a one off thing. Just crazy!
@VEC7ORlt
@VEC7ORlt Ай бұрын
I could probably get quarter of that stack lasered out if I ask nice enough, but cut, epoxied and delivered - oh hell naw.
@Ed_Stuckey
@Ed_Stuckey Ай бұрын
Already a subscriber. As always, I 👍 I'm adding a comment because I'm told that helps too.
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@klave8511
@klave8511 Ай бұрын
Fantastic work, well done. Loved the design process and innovative builds.
@en2oh
@en2oh 24 күн бұрын
Brilliant! Very helpful to provide information around reasonably priced custom laminated cores.
@RobertBeck-pp2ru
@RobertBeck-pp2ru 15 күн бұрын
Excellent work and as you learned, we also learned. Good job!
@andersson.l.e
@andersson.l.e Ай бұрын
Great build. Well done.
@Hellsslave666
@Hellsslave666 29 күн бұрын
Really cool that you were almost able to build a BLDC motor from scratch, I dont't however think that converting a starter motor is the right title.
@foxxyytofficial
@foxxyytofficial Ай бұрын
I missed your uploads, nice to see you again
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thanks foxxy!
@emaglott
@emaglott Ай бұрын
That's a lot of work. Cool!
@tntgdh
@tntgdh 28 күн бұрын
awesome project bro !
@reverse_engineered
@reverse_engineered 9 күн бұрын
One possibility to better approximate an arc magnet is to use several narrower bar magnets. This is similar to how we approximate a smooth curve as a bunch of short line segments. I don't know if you could find magnets of those dimensions, but I would suspect it might be easier than finding those large bars. You can use almost any size you want if you don't mind sticking a bunch of them together along either the width or the length. The strength of a magnet is roughly the same as its N value. N42 is somewhere in the middle. You could get N52 or even N55, but that's only 25% stronger - not enough to explain the difference between your rotor and the one from the other BLDC motor.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Ай бұрын
Amazing, Austin! Pretty fantastic work! 😃 Really well done!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thank you MC!
@sadeemalam7497
@sadeemalam7497 Ай бұрын
Love u austin. I m impressed with innovative work. I want to do this. Plz advise me. If u don't mind kindly share with me your WhatsApp no as I want to share my projects made ​@@austiwawa
@davidgleatham9966
@davidgleatham9966 14 күн бұрын
so back before fancy batteries i walked into Mitches ' fab shop' to get some bracket made; when he shows me his electric bike.... a petal sprocket between his legs allowed a 6v starter battery (um, between the knees) to spin a 12v ford starter and a boats horn button/switch all on a huffy frame. went 35mph. Mitch used it to get his mail, a 5 min run. ran it like a dirt bike; press the button/full power or coast.
@solomon__ejay
@solomon__ejay Ай бұрын
Ohhh my Gosh. Austin I think you've been reading my thouhts eactly. I've been wanting to do ths for such a while. I even consdered usig the magets from an old and damaged hoverboard wheel i have laying around. I'm just 5 secs into the video, but had to pause it jut to write this comment. Thanks Austin. You're awesome.
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Bianchi77
@Bianchi77 22 күн бұрын
Creative video, thank you :)
@PastThePoint
@PastThePoint 14 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Got me to subscribe. 🙂
@Codyhumburg
@Codyhumburg Ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@hijazecell5471
@hijazecell5471 18 күн бұрын
Very great work
@SDS-1
@SDS-1 Ай бұрын
The starter motor casing is just beefy and pretty
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 10 күн бұрын
The EV Car Industry such as Tesla could probably employ a young man with incredible drive and ambitions. Greetings from Australia.
@danielyombalakian7534
@danielyombalakian7534 28 күн бұрын
La verdad que no ví la modificación de starter a blcd, solo se utilizó el eje y la carcasa y el resto se hizo de manera artesanal, valoro eso, pero las modificaciones, las horas invertidas, el mecanizado y todo el esfuerzo superan el costo de un motor comercial. Para demostrar tu ingenio y que cualquier cosa es posible, para eso👏👏👏👏
@user-pr9zh8ki7k
@user-pr9zh8ki7k Ай бұрын
Good job man
@metricstormtrooper
@metricstormtrooper Ай бұрын
This is just brilliant stuff.
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mahendramobileshop8891
@mahendramobileshop8891 17 күн бұрын
custom BLDC motor really cool project
@dronko-fire-blaster
@dronko-fire-blaster Ай бұрын
I think at this pont you just stuck a new moter in the case of the old one, but still very impressive, well done!
@Celenecho1997
@Celenecho1997 Ай бұрын
Animation king 👑
@jayt825
@jayt825 Ай бұрын
Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! What a nice surprise! Great work man!!
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thanks Jay!
@freelectron2029
@freelectron2029 14 күн бұрын
You should have spent your money getting a dia EDM cut so you could press thin sheets of iron rather than just one solid block. You need sheets because eddie current drastically increases permetivity of the magnet field. Would have been similar outlay, but you could make multiple motors with one dia. Maybe ring the edm company up and ask then if they have your off cut ;)
@1kreature
@1kreature 29 күн бұрын
LOVE these pointless projects! Great job! I once cut apart the stator of a brushed inrunner motor (speed 300) and glued the stators to the inside of the can. Then put two magnets on a shaft and slapped it in there. Amazingly the motor runs and even flies a model plane! Oh and you should never push bearings in place from the opposite race. Always press on the race that you are fitting to avoid axial loads on the balls/races.
@AppliedCryogenics
@AppliedCryogenics Күн бұрын
Circulate some 3M Fluorinert though the stator housing. It worked for Seymour Cray. :-D
@eclectictech
@eclectictech 12 күн бұрын
If you have an interest, you could redo your rotor by milling flats for the magnets, then using soft iron 'shims' on top of the magnets to minimize the radial gap. Minimize the thickness of the shims to the degree possible. The shims will be approximately the same dimensions as the magnets with a flat side to yh magnet and a creved side towards the stator. Would be interesting to see what kind of improvement you could make with this arrangement using the same magnets
@gannas42
@gannas42 28 күн бұрын
Is that AFX/Aphex Twin as your music? Dig it! Thanks for sharing this very interesting video, man.
@jameswyatt1304
@jameswyatt1304 14 күн бұрын
Excellent build and interesting service. Could you have kept the starter rotor as an exciter field, rather than rare earth magnets? It's a direction the German auto industry is evaluating to ease magnetic sourcing concerns.
@DanelonNicolas
@DanelonNicolas 7 күн бұрын
good job!
@user-kv6lw4cp4u
@user-kv6lw4cp4u 14 күн бұрын
Very good ❤
@electrolab233
@electrolab233 3 күн бұрын
Good job
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 28 күн бұрын
Funny, the wire stripper is the same as my first one that I bought in about 1968... Good tools don't *need* to change!
@BurnerJones
@BurnerJones Ай бұрын
Badass.
@WeberMachineWorks
@WeberMachineWorks 13 күн бұрын
the best way to learn
@chadcarpenter9742
@chadcarpenter9742 Ай бұрын
Hello, great project! In my experience, I had a sensored brushless RC motor I wanted to reverse. The esc didn't have that option, so after days of drawing pictures, I came up with a sensor order that "worked" with no load. But in the car on the track, there was low power, limited speed, and motor became vary warm. I would expect your motor to run better than it did. I think you should look into your sensor wire configuration.
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thanks! I ended up trying every possible combination and it unfortunately didn't work under load. I also expected it to work better.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Ай бұрын
Austin, I did the exact same thing you did with a starter motor for a high torque GM big block engine. This is supposedly rated 5 H.P. 12 volts. Dealing with the heat problem, I made a tubing that fits snugly outside the starter. Then used a larger tube with rings on the ends to keep water inside tubing which got radial fins on the outside. This would keep the motor cool for at least a half hour. But the low HP of the starter motor made this an not so perfect unit. I should of just made me a ground up build like you did fella. Paying 170 dollars is just a steal for sure. Nice video Austin. v
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@tonydoggett7627
@tonydoggett7627 20 күн бұрын
30+ years ago! I used a electrical powered spinning blade enamel striping tool that worked well. even on PEI-2 wire.
@donovangibson7765
@donovangibson7765 Ай бұрын
Get some magnetic field viewing film and compare field lines on your rotor vs the bldc one.
@sammyjimsmith6100
@sammyjimsmith6100 16 күн бұрын
I never heard of this film, but now I want some.
@oliverfree200
@oliverfree200 16 күн бұрын
Incrível man
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 26 күн бұрын
hmmmm wonder if you couldve had the original starter motor housing machined out to the 100mm of the brushless dc motor , it wouldve reduced the wallthickness by 2.5mm but you couldve used a standard sized electrical metal i think it wouldve been a cheaper option even using aluminium/steel pipe with a 100mm inner diameter and just cut it to length wouldve been an option as you not using ANYof the stock features other than the centering on the endplates (and you could make 2.5mm thick rings for those to slide in after installing the stator , would hold the stator in the center of the housing as well ) you might be able you grind the magnets rounder to fit the stator better using some sort of toolpost grinder (angle grinder mounted to toolpost and work slowly )
@albertmagician8613
@albertmagician8613 14 күн бұрын
It is a breeze to remove shellack from copper wire. Lay the wire on top of an aspirin tablet and apply solder to it. You have to use pure acetyl salicylic acid without other medicines or pain killers.
@TweakRacer
@TweakRacer 14 күн бұрын
Random long vowels: 6:48 Sub-SEE-quent 11:14/15:23 PROE-cess
@nraynaud
@nraynaud Ай бұрын
nice project. Have you explored the idea of a rotor wound synchronous motor while you had a wound rotor?
@mattdaddy_888
@mattdaddy_888 17 күн бұрын
The future of "engine building" lol
@lesjolley8389
@lesjolley8389 12 сағат бұрын
Starter motors have shunt winding which causes back pressure this increases torque if you missed that step try cutting out the shunt winding
@ScorpionRanchTX
@ScorpionRanchTX 10 күн бұрын
Converting an alternator into a motor would also be a fun project. They are already wound three phase.
@MigotRen
@MigotRen 15 күн бұрын
You could probably greatly increase duty cycle/peak power with active cooling. you already have an open design. I dont know how much space is left in the bearing flanges but it seems possible from the outsitde. maybe extend the housing with spacers bit?
@George.___
@George.___ 27 күн бұрын
You basically made a new motor from scratch with only some size dimensions borrowed from the original starter. This is very impressive and you did a great job, but the title is a bit misleading since the starter wasn’t converted.
@MikeSimOle1
@MikeSimOle1 15 күн бұрын
You could use fire, a lighter, to remove the enamel for the wire faster. Keep that in mind for future projects!
@Shlovanzleeat
@Shlovanzleeat 22 күн бұрын
Can you get one of those "Magnetic field viewers" and check the orientation of your magnets? Will you consider a Halbach array of rotor magnets? You may have to make deeper cuts in your rotor to place the magnets.
@skrywenko6596
@skrywenko6596 22 күн бұрын
for your starter motor all you really needed to was to modify the housing to incorporate a fan to provide forced air to prevent it from over heating or just used an old automotive style DC generator ( not an alternator) and use it as a motor
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT 12 күн бұрын
Use an alternator with the tree phase control and modify the rotating field with permanent magnets so you don't have to use energy to drive a field coil.
@DontCallMeGarage
@DontCallMeGarage 2 күн бұрын
austin, make a DIY toolpost grinder for your lathe and grind the rotor magnets round....
@IIGBII
@IIGBII 4 күн бұрын
Great Video. How about adding regeneration to the BLDC motor so when you apply the brakes you generate power back into a Super-capacitor to get you going again before using the battery, saving battery power.
@user-di8il8ks5i
@user-di8il8ks5i 28 күн бұрын
Golden Motor Company been making water cooled 5,10, 20KW BLDC's and controllers specifically for conversions of bikes, scooters, motorbikes, boats and cars for over 30years.
@u3b3rg33k
@u3b3rg33k 10 күн бұрын
sweet build. Why did you choose BLDC instead of induction via shorting the commutator?
@drewhailstones4106
@drewhailstones4106 Ай бұрын
How did u get to use Zedaph's create series intro tune in this vid?
@boelwerkr
@boelwerkr 9 күн бұрын
I made a stator by soft soldering iron sheets together, then machining the stack, de-soldering it all and then gluing all the sheets together with epoxy soaked gaze. Gluing it from the beginning wasn't good enough for the machining and leaving it soldered would have negated the hole purpose of laminating.
@orionbetelgeuse1937
@orionbetelgeuse1937 14 күн бұрын
what's the point in using the case of the starter motor to contain a new different motor. The starter motor could be used at lower power by simply replacing the copper bars with copper wire (more coils with thinner wire). You don't need 1.5kW for the bike and surely the new motor is not a 1.5kw one.
@hardwareful
@hardwareful 13 күн бұрын
The sponsorship doesn't make sense - how is this not sponsored by JYStator? Such a cool service! Ah well.
@CRB9000
@CRB9000 24 күн бұрын
Use a treadmill motor.
@RonnieStanley-tc6vi
@RonnieStanley-tc6vi 13 күн бұрын
Or just buy a new hub motor and quit screwing around.😂😂😂
@Maungateitei
@Maungateitei 13 күн бұрын
That's an excellent idea. As long as you don't replace the efficient, inexpensive and reliable brushes with an inefficient, complicated, unreliable, expensive and failure prone computer controlled electronic commutation system. BLDC is a branding exercise for electronically commutated synchronous AC motor. If you look at cars like Jay Lenos 1909 Baker electric, it uses a 2 hp brushed dc motor with electromagnetic field coils that are used to control it's speed, and it is almost identical to a typical 2.5 hp treadmill motor. Those cars are at least 6 times as efficient as any built today despite having terrible Aerodynamics and wheels that would not look out of place on a logging truck. The Safe, non toxic and inexpensive edison Nickel Iron batteries are unkillable, energy dense and proven to last 100years of daily use. The motors, like a treadmill motor or starter motor, have power ratings that, as with all brushed dc motors are run all day non stop ratings, and 10x the rated power is perfectly fine for a few minutes. This is DEFINATELY NOT THE CAUSE WITH BLDC SHITE! They and their controllers are not often capable of even their rated power without frying themselves. The hub motor suggestion by the fool here is a stupid idea. You need gears, and hub motors and other BLDC bike motors will be advertised as a certain power, but that is the battery draw power not the shaft power, which is often only 20 to 30 percent of what comes out of the battery. The electronic controllers use semiconductor switching that has multiple components that have voltage drops and turn most of the battery supplied power into heat. REMEMBER THAT THE SCAMSTERS SELLING THEM ARE NOT LYING IF THEY TELL YOU "It's up to 90% efficient", but it never gets over 25%. It would only be a lie and false advertising if it ever for a split second got 91% or higher. 😒🙄. The idiot making this video fryed his starter motor because he geared it to go faster than the speed of sound, not taking into account that it is a high performance motor designed to run at over 30 thousand rpm. There is a Russian on KZfaq that got very exciting wheel spinning performance and top speed of 110kmph out of a 24V starter motor driving an old five series BMW at 36V, 48V, and 60V using up to 10 standard lead acid car batteries thru the gearbox. And using a strip of stainless sheet metal as a soft start resistor, and direct connection to the batteries for full power. That setup also has very efficient recyclic braking, because spinning the motor faster than no load speed makes its back Emf higher than the battery voltage and charge them. The only reason they are pushing computer crap on you is that they can track you and deny you use of your own vehicle if they don't like what you say. Or if there is a Tsunami or Nuclear attack, or some other major disaster they will not tell you, just switch off your transport and communications, while the elitists helicopter off to their underground bunkers. I am not even going to watch this idiot waste time and money turning a reliable efficient 10kW capable motor into an expensive piece of crap that only puts out 0.5kW. He is an idiot. Pushing crap for genocidalist scamster sponsors. A "useful idiot" as they put it.
@kyle_mk17
@kyle_mk17 12 күн бұрын
​@@RonnieStanley-tc6viWhere's the fun in that?
@citratune7830
@citratune7830 12 күн бұрын
@@MaungateiteiBro you need to go study some E&M and do your own experiments or some shit. Or maybe get help.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 11 күн бұрын
You can find those for free all the time too :)
@zez000
@zez000 Ай бұрын
how about using it on a car making it plugin hybrid? I wonder if you could reduce fuel consumption
@rkan2
@rkan2 27 күн бұрын
Next do a PMSR motor :P
@Pyroscity
@Pyroscity 15 күн бұрын
Put a plastic plant pot near where the spokes are in the back on the non-chain side and you got yourself a _motor_ cycle
@adagioleopard6415
@adagioleopard6415 15 күн бұрын
You can remove the enamel coating with a blob of solder on the tip of a soldering iron
@senoleker
@senoleker 14 күн бұрын
Could you make a video explaining the differences between BLDC and PMSM motors? I couldn't find clear information on this. When can we refer to a motor as BLDC and when as PMSM?
@GERntleMAN
@GERntleMAN 27 күн бұрын
Unfortunately when I visit the site, there is no option of prototyping or metal layering. Only 3D printing and machining
@joeschmo622
@joeschmo622 13 күн бұрын
What about sensorless BLDC controllers? No HE sensors, they sense back-EMF to determine position and phasing, etc.
@usetips2662
@usetips2662 8 күн бұрын
personally I don't like permanent magnet. that are pre magnetize. that can be decrease the magnetic power when using long time and it can be effect to efficient of motor. why we cant use induction motor. please advice me if I wrong.
@evilutionltd
@evilutionltd 16 күн бұрын
Instead of trying to buy arc magnets, could you have not glued larger magnets in place and added the arc by putting it in your lathe and bring the outside down to the correct radius? I'm sure how well they'd cut as they will be brittle. Even using a sandpaper block whilst it's spinning on the lathe may have done it.
@terrycarter8929
@terrycarter8929 12 күн бұрын
I would have made the core slightly larger and chucked the rotor in the lathe and turned it down to the proper OD.
@htwt
@htwt Ай бұрын
11:48 The shell of the starter motor makes laminating the stator unnecessary. In other words; it causes large core loss. Non ferrous casing would be better
@colinofay7237
@colinofay7237 Ай бұрын
What's the benefit for using this type of motor
@jelsamaria7321
@jelsamaria7321 29 күн бұрын
extreme torque +power😊
@MindfulPeople
@MindfulPeople Ай бұрын
What about using iron dust mixed with epoxy, instead of laminated slices? This would eliminate eddy currents, but the question would be around how well the magnetic fields could pass through such a block. ie. will torque suffer?
@austiwawa
@austiwawa Ай бұрын
I have seen others experiment with this and I also wonder how it would perform. Might be worth a test!
@htwt
@htwt Ай бұрын
13:55 The magnetic circuit of the rotor is incorrectly designed or not designed at all. Saw grooves between the magnetic poles
@alexwang007
@alexwang007 29 күн бұрын
These are not BLDC motors but permanent magnet synchronous machines. They certainly don't run off pulsed DC. You could run a PMSM as a BLDC if it's wound in a star configuration and have the center winding connected to one of the bus rails.
@shaynegadsden
@shaynegadsden 26 күн бұрын
No it's a brushless dc motor they are mostly the same in construction the difference is in the control PMSM uses 1 hall effect sensor and BLDC uses 3
@KD-my6lo
@KD-my6lo 25 күн бұрын
👍
@maxw.7118
@maxw.7118 Ай бұрын
Please try to build one where you just short the windings of the original rotor instead of magnets.
@maxw.7118
@maxw.7118 Ай бұрын
Or just power them with a regulated current and control the speed by shifting a static magnetic field. Like with these Motors: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdB8lJSXyt_Lgpc.html but with DC.
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