If you want to drive offroad and make it through to where you're going, take a Land Rover. If you want to hit a bump and spill your Starbucks on your crotch, take a Land Cruiser.

Selling more doesn't necessarily make something better.

@@the80386 Still better than a BMW. They have horrendous resale value.

@@labourlawact7826 that doesnt make it a better vehicle. The points here are how outdated much of this car is or how stupid toyota customers for buying old shit and paying a lot. High resale just means lots of dumb folks willing to buy it… Thats true for many goods though and doesnt make them particularly good.

@@labourlawact7826 why compare it to bmw? compare it to the similar Y62 Patrol which is better and cost effective.

Dubious about it. They have killed V8 its like in relation to dick size, chopping it wouldn't be a good Idea.

Here's the thing, genius: nobody outside Toyota has driven it yet. You understand this, right. The only difference between me and every other so-called journalist posting about this vehicle is: I'm not sucking Toyota's dick over it.

Im really thinking John will never ever be successful. Your language and demeanor is plain ridiculous

@@02hreblue30 That's not even mediocre, as trolling goes. Try harder.

@linkzable Show me an Australian journalist test driving an Australian-spec LC300 in Australia. Pro tip, genius: I'm not criticising how it drives. I'm criticising the merits of being an early adopter. Do try to keep up.

@@AutoExpertJC I wonder what motivates one to personally attack another human being over his opinions on an automobile... Lack of engineering credentials? General need for corporate bootlicking? Developmental disability? Keep up the good work, Sir. I don't live in Oz but your insights into the industry are crystal clear.

Fan-boy.

such a huge seller in America

@@AutoExpertJC You forgot "viscous" fan-boy 😅 I don't care if the Toyota legion is getting offended, you could have told the truth about any other brand, but I honestly haven't laughed that much at a KZfaq video probably ever 🤣 Thank you 👍🏻

@@AutoExpertJC aren't you a BMW fanboy? Have some shame

Lmao explain Toyotas scams, poor over pricing, and shit value for money. Fanboy

Lolz as a mechanic I'm with you. Range Rover better make their cars for Christmas cuz of all the lights on the dash with their over engineering. The things iv seen and heard about those over price unreliable cars is unbelievable.

if u cant be in a LC on ur way to robbery, why would u rob then

like the fact that toyota cant even get the air box build correctly.

@@SH-ix8rx LOL i'm with you as well mate as a mechanic of 25 years. You service Toyotas and repair everything else. Of course there are exceptions. Nothing is ever perfect. Don't forget the Snapped crankshafts in Land Rovers and every other problem under the sun. A lot of people don't understand why Toyotas are the best. Because they're not professionals in the trade. But they'll ignore the blatantly obvious signs right in front of their eyes......like looking at what the oldest cars on the road are. Mostly Toyotas.

@@jimbojones2457 So basically the only metric worth going by is how long the car will last? Driving around in a 30 year old Toyota isn't the flex you might think.

Once those interest rates go up in a few years those repo guys are going to be flat out.

Once you're free of religion, free of politics, free of debt and free of big tech then you're truly free.

I have pondered that same question many times as well.

I would say most are related to businesses and are tax deductable. Whether they are actually used for business purposes, may be debatable.

I know right. I have wondered the same thing myself.

*Land Rover has left the chat* *JEEP has left the chat* *Mercedes G-wagon has left the chat*

Exactly! If your over- lander broke down you would probably die out in the wilderness. This turbo better be as dependable as that 5.7 V8.

A Y62, there’s your answer. Just as reliable and a way better car

@@NathanJ-E lmao illiterate! Lc300 will just sh#t on y62

@@Countrysideboy247 lmao illiterate. Many owners? Still that didn't make in the analysis list of 300+ miles cars, let alone being in the most reliability chart

You watching it, he wins

@@MAXTEDFING yes, true, but I’m watching far less of John now. Once he crossed into politics and climate change, my interest in his channel waned. I’m interested in the 300 series and John’s sentiment, unfortunately it was oh so predictable and a bit of a bore. Hence, I’ve moved to other channels.

@@2loco More time, More Ads, More $$$ from KZfaq.

@@dpd6401 1 less bogan watching the channel….damn

@@dpd6401 other channels huh? Reputable titles such as "Babes Beers and V8 action" or the equally as informative "Tatts, Sheila's and 4x4 Straya" perhaps? Both are excellent alternatives to this Channel that bores bogans to sleep with educational facts stat's and information, confusing big words and humorous word play. Certainly no place in this country for such informative and entertaining content!

Yeah he's peanut hey

Dont know his perspective.LC's can last for 15 years of off roading.And i am from India.

I dont think so.As for the stress on a V6 engine,most of the heavy duty trucks haul 45-50 tons for years are mostly 6 cylinders turbo charged diesel engines.Volvo and Scania for example.A V8 twin turbo LC 200 was basically 2007 technology.Today the engine blocks and the cylinders are made out of different quality hardened material.This has been incorporated into the LC 300.And i have seen the Arabs(Great drivers)swearing for the land cruiser when they do dune bashing.They would not prefer anything less.Check out the tug of war between a Land cruiser and any other 4WD including the Range rover and Jeep rubicon.Due to better traction control,the land cruiser wins on most counts except for a few germans like the Mercedez or Audi.A 5.7 LC made 381 BHP with 53 Newton metres of torque.The difference in the size of the engine is almost 2200 cc's plus two extra cylinders.That is huge.

Appreciate your knowledge abt engineering.However,we are talking about toyota engines.A range rover diesel develops 240 bhp and it is a inline 4 cylinder.It weighs 2.4 tons.Here i am talking not about a V8 5.0 litre supercharged engine.And if you say it is hyped up,then the person carrying out the tug of war is himself an engineer and a car expert of over 25 years.And if toyota's engines have deteriorated ovet the last 15 years,then i would like to hear about a company which is producing a better quality cars.I am not trying to prove a point here.The Japanese after being bombed out twice in 1945,still make stuff which is the best in the world.This does not go for cars only.Sony,JVC,Toyota,Nissan,Mitsubishi...you name it and they are right up there.This is one the prime reasons that they have a trade surplus with most countries.And the land cruiser LC 300....it weighs 200 kilos less than the old V8..Lighter weight means better acceleration.Correct me if i am wrong..It also means better mileage.Oil is finite commodity.Even the US inspite of having huge oil reserves imports crude from the gulf.Think about it sonetimes.One of the reasons for toyota to downsize its engines from 5.7 to 3.5 twin turbo petrol and 3.3 turbo diesel is to match the emmision standards and not just blindly produce gas guzzling cars.It is not all about power but also about economy and providing practical grounded solutions to the current situations.No wonder even their neighbours like Russia apart from India acknowkedge them as technical masters.

@@Countrysideboy247.I do not own a toyota but have relatives and friends who bought Fortuner and even Camry.And also an afghan friend who gives some feedbacks on how the talibans use the land cruisers.I admit that if it is a matter of engines,then problems will happen.It is an engine after all.But the feedback is generally positive.Inspite of technical difficulties,they are proud owners.A 2755 cc turbo diesel fortuner is rated highly because of its off roading performance where traction control and differential locks are i required.I have seen more than a few times a fortuner puts a 3.2 litre ford endeavour in shade.The indian 4WD's try hard but in vain.The second vehicle.....a mitsubishi Pajero inter cooled diesel...As reliable as a Land cruiser and it is a 2010 model.But if it is a V8 toyota...that is a different league.It is a kind of status for even the Senior Ministers.The problems are not talked about.Because they are far in between.

My sentiments exactly.

I AGREE, GETTING TOO MUCH.

Yeh i wish he would make some of his videos more as informative as we want the information sometimes without all of the comedy.

Totally Agree!

I long since gave up on his videos because of the FIGJAM, immature, amateur comedian delivery. It is just intolerably tiresome. Like, in this video, what is the ratio of grandstanding to useful information...?

Couldn't agree more. Not sure what old mate is going on about.

Yep I am on my fourth land cruiser which is a 2019 Sahara, all of my previous LC’s sold at a premium price with minimal depreciation compared to the average vehicle and that is one thing that an LC does better than a Nissan Patrol. As good as they are they just don’t hold their price like the Toyota. CD in the dash? Thats a also a DVD player which allows us to entertain our grand children in a controlled fashion on trips away dragging our three and a half tonne effluent carrier as John so delicately puts it. By the way John whilst we are on that subject for people like me whom spend six months of the year living in hotel rooms the thought of spending valuable holiday time in yet another covid breeding ground is beyond the pail hence the effluent carrier. Why the 200 instead of waiting for the 300 you might ask? The 200 series has had 14 years of development and real world testing which means that all of its early faults have been dealt with so when I am in the middle of the great fuck all I can be reasonably confident that I am not going to have any technical issues with it and if I did there will parts available locally or at least within 24 hours. This may not be the case with the new V6 which is undoubtedly going to be a more highly stressed engine which could be an issue and the parts for it and the new drive train may take some time to filter out to the dealers . If you look up reliable in a thesaurus one of the alternatives is “ Toyota” which means a lot out in the GFA or even Double Bay for all I know.

This guy is an expert on his own channel.

But they were the good ones weren't they that you had, I think he's talking about and he's just pissed off that they've downgraded some things but put the price up even more

@@JayJay-gl2df no he is just a man on a rant, he truly doesnt know much about cars and 4x4's, he only knows how to trash talk them, saying things like questioning why a brand new 4x4 engine with latest tech comes with a viscous fan?! That is elementary knowledge to 4x4 vehicle design..(toyota keep the viscous fan because an electric fan will fail going through water crossings, which is a pretty standard thing to do offroad). The guy is a tool and doesnt know much at all.

Touché

😂🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏

Same mate, my 62 runs like a dream, don’t listen to all the hate

@Samuel Jesse Jonah I meant the 62 series as in the fj62

No CD player though eh.

Sounds like he's been smashing the cans before filming.

bro, your comment isnt written very well. Have another go.

@@bjones5240 Sorry. I must have drunken.

I recommend not watching it at all.

How endlessly entertaining.

I put the playback speed to 0.75. That gives me............25% more video and enough time to finish my pint of bitter.

Try it at 0.5 playback speed, makes him sound stoned out of his mind.

@@billharris3650 - best to listen to Cadogan at 1.75 speed, that way he sounds so energetic and full of beans.

@@AutoExpertJC By that age, he should have factors of conversion memorized?

more pipsqueaks drive them than big blokes!

🤣🤣🤣🤣😜

@@NicholasCox85 Bog blokes drive Yaris.

Actually being made in Japan, anyone over 6 ft will probably be hitting their head on the roof

I wonder where they have hidden the starter motor this time?

Em fokers still haven't changed anything on kdss this damn system is really crap and all land cruisers equipped are always driving inclined lol

It's always in the last place you look...

I can sniff butt-hurt. Landcruiser owner?

Yes..make one to sell but to who given the changing world market dynamics? I doubt Aus sales will be enuf to sustain the 300s for long...unless of course the Feds keep subsidising diesels to buy tradie votes...ie..300s for the wife...79s for hubby etc

@@AutoExpertJC i am a Landcruiser owner, not butt hurt, laughing at the new offering from the big T. I will now sell and make money on my used effluent towing 300,000 km 200 series V8 and use the money to fly my new chopper to DPC for holidays 😂.

I wish my car still had a CD player.

Or they charge you extra for

I feel as though over the last year or so this channel has gone from being an information hub with a comical twist to a total bag fest. If it isn't Kia or Hyundai it gets bombed from every direction. Good for an occasional laugh but dont take anything he has to say anymore seriously its all about the views not the quality of content.

@@ZeroVelocity1 Not so. John is very much along side Subaru, Mazda, Lexus and BMW - allegiance purely based on how well they look after customers after the sale in service. I think KIA and Hyundai are just easier to get along with re test cars and communications - he's simply in favour of companies that do right by customers - isn't that what we want form a YT motor channel?

shit I'll appreciate a V1 if it's 3 foot wide.

@@ZeroVelocity1 I've seen him give props to companies with good customer service even after reviewing a car he didn't like, so I don't buy anyone's claims of bias. The butthurt of Toyota fanbois is almost as strong as it is with Elon Musk's throng of minions; the number of personal attacks in this particular video's comments section is disgusting.

Fan-boy. No specific criticism, then...

@@AutoExpertJC probably "butthurt" hey John

@@AutoExpertJC OK, you are making a video telling us about a car which you haven't seen and haven't driven so I am saying that a proper review of the car after you have seen and driven it will be far more credible than today's effort. OK?

Johns a car review comedian, not a car reviewer! His approach is humorous neurotic criticism, using a sample of, ahem, facts.

@@calculusmetal he was a motoring journo/editor reviewing new cars for at least 20 yrs that I recall reading

@@emergingit maybe he cant own a Land Cruiser thats why he is bitter

V6 vs straight 6 ... very different engine types

@@nuggetBrahh yeah the v6 can be made stronger and lighter because the crank isnt as long but i will still take a 1hdfte over the v6.

It's also about bonnet length and visibility off roading

Not even close. The best engine toyota ever built was the legendary 2JZ.

I prefer the soft warm feeling of CD and sliding it into that tiny slit in anticipation of what's to come.

Not the bogan market, the Toorak (insert whatever state equivalent) market so they can take junior to the school drop off half a block from home, and try to insert the beast into tiny carpark bays at Myers.

The corolla was originally a small car, now almost a large car. LandCruiser wagons now oil sheik and other multi millionnair mode of transport

They have not said 'less weight' - just that the body and chassis are lighter. Let's see what the all-up weight is. And they've had 14 years to figure out how to stow the row 3 seats (like every other carmakers manages) so let's not be treating that like a friggin' miracle.

@@AutoExpertJC I thought they actually stipulated 200kg less than the 200 series, mainly through a different welding process which now requires less metal for reinforcement.

@@Derrick84100 yes both chassis and body structure were reinforced and extensive use of aluminium, the v6 is also way lighter.

How fairly new 200 has no CD player in it I think you may be eating your words soon John

Oh, so John is saying the chassis is 200kg lighter, but maybe not the overall car..

Hands down the best engine family. V8 pos was the biggest thirstiest disappointment. Glad i never wanted one

Theres GQ's going for 20-25k at the moment... anything is selling for a premium at moment.

The 4.5 v8 is a fantastic motor. Whats wrong with them ?

@@ttomred4000 fantastic motor? Hardly. Single turbo 1VD was no better than the 1HD it replaced. The twin turbo offered more power but nothing out of the reach of the 1HD. They would have been far better off making a common rail inline 6. When your little V8 gets outdone towing in fuel consumption by the yanks, youve fucked up somewhere.

@@liamcooper5202 mate you better drive a 1hdtfte and come back to us

you win the internet this week

Falcon Ecoboost is a rocket

Well this comment didn't age well.....

Hip hip! Hip Everywhere! Hip hip! Hip to be square!

Camry and Corolla models are the equivalent of automotive whitegoods. Essentially just a rolling appliance.

Yeah i have a Lexus and the CD player is very high quality. I use CD's on occasion. Unlike the Subaru i had though it doesn't display the names of songs from CD . The Subaru accessed a data base and displayed the track names and details even if the CD did not contain the display data. The Lexus doesn't do this unfortunately.

No, you can't

That's not the reason, the reason is that most old people buy toyota

He's still in the (water) closet.

If you want to be a comedian get on a stage . What a croc of shit .Everyone wanting to know what to expect and you sneer and turn your nose up at it before you even drive one !!’Toyota landcruiser have never bought out a new model without it being better than the old one I’ll miss my tailgate though !!

@@chrisfitzgerald1555 John's a BMW fanboy...

@@labourlawact7826 ...who owns a Kona hybrid

@@MrTaxiRob Yep. He can't afford one, but absolutely love the cars he reviews. Probably drives the shit out of them too. It's not his worry that the BMW is an endless money pit car.

Nope. It's older. 😀

Who cares? You’re buying it for the drivetrain, not the music player

I dream of testing this using the scientific method, and Naomi Campbell.

@@AutoExpertJC I am waiting for your tongue in cheek appraisal , your sense of humour is awesome and livens up a sometimes mundane day.

What see is what get. At least it's not the European vehicle youtube clickbait youtube videos. They place a good looking girly girl ☺ in front of the vehicle yet they don't include her in the youtube video or maybe even if they do - they don't show the woman for very long

Tamlyn Dalton. Amen, to that.

Every girl crazy 'bout a sharp-dressed man, man.

@@AutoExpertJC indeed but it's that Brown Sugar I'm talking about.

my thoughts exactly. Getting very hard to watch.

Yes it is mate. A lot of the people that choose to watch this particular review are going to be People that like LCs. And he is referring to them (his viewers) as bogans. Criticise the car by all means, but now he is so arrogant he is bagging out people. People (his audience) who just want to watch a review of a car by an engineer. I don’t get that.

Couldn't agree more not everyone wants to stay in dipshitsville resort on the gold coast they drive me mental , they are full of Cadogans which rhymes with Bogans how convenient.

@@frankvarga1502 His disrespect of the caravan segment of his viewers as usual is my main gripe not his review on the Land-cruiser which is probably justified

Obviously one of the 200 flock

Do you own one?

I love it.

I’m sure that catch phrase was once used by Nokia during the release of the iPhone.

@@ansett7687 Mortein and Louie the Fly!

@@brucehewson5773 ah yeah, my point was that Nokia didn't see any point in developing a better phone then Apple, they just relied on their name....

I heard the V8 diesel had injector issues, but I think that was mainly down to running poor quality fuel. Most I've seen fit a second fuel filter to avoid this.

Is the LC300 reliable with the new Infotainment and the turbo charged engine?

target audience, confirmed.

I'll believe that when I see it.

Yeah nah going to happen

@Samuel Jesse Jonah Ah Roothy

Did they cut out your sense of humour as a penalty, or is it a birth defect?

Arabs love Patrols don't they?

@@ericjohnson6802 Only when Toyota run out of stock.

That’s strange. Where I am that’s not the case. But I’d rather all the benefits a patrol comes with and long waiting times than short times and a shitbox

He does like telling a tale :)

It's a photo-finish.

I know which one i would take off road around Australia lol

What's a good looking SUV in your opinion?

lol nice description :)

its not a bad looking shoe box.

That's 100% what it is. Idiots and boomers who don't know how to use a phone app are the only people buying this thing. Idiots and boomers also double up as using cds in a brand new $100k car

Or you can upgrade it to a real one for an extra 1200AUD. Mrketing genius, l think you'll agree.

That's the point though: There's a disconnect between what they're designed to do, and what they're advertised to do.

@@spackle42 agreed

The very latest LandCruiser in 300 and 79 have diff locks now, they didn't before so serious 4wders fitted them. It all depends what you want to do. You can still get through a lot more impassable roads than a Camry can without a million lumens of spotlights, snorkel, bullbar, winch, compressor, CB radio, fridge, 37" mud tyres, 3" lift and recovery gear. Just like a 300kw performance car can do 0-100 in under 5 seconds without upgrading wheels, brakes, suspension, exhaust, turbo, cams, chip, catch can. People still do all that all the time though.

@@cruiser6260 If everyone runs 37" tires and you don't however, the wheel ruts everywhere become bullshit deep, too deep for 33". That's how I've seen it anyway.

Not only does nearly every roof top tent exceed the load rating for the roof structure, it's fun watching from behind as they try and negotiate windy roads at anything faster than a wombats waddle.

Roll-over Assistance Package :)

@@raygale4198 I’ve never understood why you’d want camp in the carpark…as many need to, with vehicles restricted from accessing a lot of camping areas.

@@raygale4198 I have a low-profile rooftop hard-shell tent. It's lower profile than a jerry can or the bank of spotlights I see so many sporting on their racks. It's well within the off-road roof carrying capacity, means my partner can tour with me comfortably and I don't have to drag 2 tonnes of camper-trailer behind. Not that hard to understand.

@@technopsychobedlam So you and your partner and the roof top tent weigh in under 200kG? That's the highest roof rating my admittedly poor research could find.

Are you part of the Toyota Oz senior executive marketing team.

@@AutoExpertJC thank you sir. And kind regards from DPI (Dingo Piss Inlet).

@@AutoExpertJC I wish I had a cushy job in Toyota management. Toyotas sell themselves

I was shocked to see that they sold for $90k plus over there, similar to the price down under!

So many other home-grown alternatives there, too - Escalades and the like, for successful pimps and gang bangers, etc.

@@AutoExpertJC yes however those things are all over the place; and everybody knows what they are. Land Cruiser is very rare here; and it only comes well Specked. So like I said not many people know what it is; it's for understated transportation

@@kevinbarry71 You must be parking under trees to have a well specked LC. perhaps if it were better specced it would solve the bird problems kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKyTZ82Bl9ndnnk.html

@@JasonISF yes; they are quite expensive; a Sequoia is a better value in my opinion; same powertrain, more sophisticated suspension, bigger and quite a bit less expensive. But not available in Australia. As I said; here are the Land Cruiser is purchased by people with a lot of money who don't wish to show off. As I understand it they are quite often purchase for cash. People also know they will last for decades even with fairly heavy use. No Nissan is going to hold up to that

I thought that FU was quite amusing.

A land rover should be lnclusive of a frontal lobotomy

@@AutoExpertJC Even better for me, that's right when KZfaq dropped a advertisment. That was quite the oral pilates session you had 😂

Really..our D4 cost 38k has adjustable air suspension, diff locks 250kw engine, 8 sleed auto, 11 speaker sound system, full leather, fold flat seats, 9 air bags etc etc n cost 38k. Mates 200s same year same k's has cost him over 100k and it drives like crap. The auto is rubbish and he can't drive in dust (dealer advice). I don't need suspension mods to tow as the air bags adjust automatically and for off road height...i hit a switch!!i IMHO 200s are a secod rate car. Running cost...mine no mods/repairs in 130 000ks...his..over 20k so far. Fuel use... his 23l/100ks towing...mine 17.5.

Do I hear a hint of jealousy? Of course not. Best not let anyone know that subconsciously you wish you had one, so lets deflect and misdirect. We don't want the blue singlet brigade to pile on. Lemmings anyone?

So what? Those style fan clutches are used in heavy duty diesel applications.

@@callofdutyguy9 So what indeed

Thank you very much, Sambo. Humour is hard - most people don't get that.

It is unique where so many just fall into a trap of driving a car fast and pretending they know what they are on about :)

Well he isn't saying Telluride or Palisade would fit the bill but then again Hyundai didn't wave that around as a selling point anywhere I saw.

Well opportunity not to be missed, Hyundai redesigned the Gen2 Pajero into a Terracan many moons ago, maybe Hyundai and re-pattern the current Pajero off as the new Terracan, possible with a CD player? Anyone?

Reminds me of the joke that Lada Niva were to launch a 16 valve model. Turns out, 8 of them were in the radio.

I suspect you got next to no info from a formal education. (Personal opinion.)

Elegant? Should've gone to Specsavers...

This principle works for most elected world leaders (being outdated).

@@AutoExpertJC Except where it counts. :^)

@@AutoExpertJC So much for the "rational consumer". Nice theory, though.

They had another one too- "oh what a f...." something something beginning with F we used to have, but I'm sure it wasn't important

probably a reflection of the average age of the Japanese people - they live long, so there are a lot of old people who cling to the tech they know.

@@Paul_McNulty the relatively slow demise of the CD in Japan is down to a few things including licensing, attraction to physical ownership, CD covers, social responsibility (not downloading unlicensed music) ability to get a CD signed by a musician, according to Metropolis Magazine's (unscientific) report. The mag adds that CD's are being somewhat displaced by vinyl records of all formats. As for FAX machines, they present a more personal use case not addressed by other technologies, and from experience, in Japan the viewpoint that if it ain't broke then why fix it is more prevalent than in many other countries.

Could be a DVD or bluray player too… 🤷‍♂️

@@Paul_McNulty define old?

@@Kwatshivo yeah they had it side by side. The new one is definitely congested. Its the same opinion shared my some of my friends. But you have to worry only if your like 5.10 to 6ft or more

15 litres per 100 km in a LC V8 isn't exactly frugal either.

@@JasonISF Can’t afford one mate? You’ll get there one day…..

@@craigdavid6668 haha! I've got better things to spend money on than an overpriced, overweight caravan lugger.

@@JasonISF Not an LFA though.

I wanted it to be a slot for my 78rpm vinyl.

@@AutoExpertJC Hahaha! You got me rolling on the floor! Toyota purchased the rights to the “Highway Hi-Fi” tech!

Good question

I was just thinking the exact same thing then read your question.

If he does answer, expect a non-answer.

You're not an 'operator'.

@@AutoExpertJC Sorry John. Mrs Smythe-Jones at Grammar school would no doubt have picked up on that one too. Driver. Got it.