Avoidant personality disorder subtypes - a real thing?

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Jake - AvPD

Jake - AvPD

Жыл бұрын

#avoidantpersonalitydisorder #avpd

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@David-hr8mq
@David-hr8mq Жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel and you're the 1st person I've ever heard describe the same feelings I've had all my life. I always knew other people probably felt this way, but when you have this disorder you sometimes feel like no one else on earth is like you. Your channel has taught me a lot because I didn't know there were different subtypes or functioning levels. I have to say I'm very impressed that you have the ability to even make these videos. I haven't found many KZfaqrs with AvPD, probably because we're too scared to go on camera and open ourselves up to criticism. So thank you for having the nerve to put yourself out here and talk about this disorder because not enough people know about it
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I could help a bit! I've been making these videos for more than half a year now and it still really stresses me out, but it's worth doing for a lot of reasons - mainly because, like you said, there aren't a whole lot of us that do it, and I just want to increase the likelihood that someone dealing with AvPD without knowing about it can find some information and similar people. I have gotten better at talking to the camera, and putting up with the sound of my own voice, even if the upload anxiety is about the same. Functioning levels aren't something that's necessarily used by psychologists in relation to AvPD, but in seeing how I've changed over time, and in talking to others dealing with AvPD, it seems like a useful way to basically quickly describe the level of avoidance you're currently dealing with.
@David-hr8mq
@David-hr8mq Жыл бұрын
@Jake - AvPD Yeah the functioning levels makes a lot of sense. I always wondered why I've been able to work and live on my own while others cannot. So I guess I would be considered high-functioning, even though I wouldn't consider myself high-functioning at anything. But the fear of what I would have to do if I didn't work is scarier to me than working. I have just always had to try and work jobs that are not stressful to me. I hate it because I always have worked low paying jobs because they are usually easier for me and the Interview process is easier. I have avoided applying for jobs I could easily do just because I'm so terrified of the interview. But anyway I'm enjoying your videos and I relate to a lot of what you talk about.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
@@David-hr8mq I totally get what you mean. As I've slowly made progress towards basic functioning, I'm definitely more anxious, rather than less - just able to manage it in a way that's a little better for doing the things I have to/want to do. It's a disorder that's a constant, huge pain in the ass no matter how much you're able to function in spite of it, and in that way "high-functioning" seems like a silly way to describe it. If I was working, I would definitely be doing the same thing as far as simpler/lower-paying jobs than I should otherwise be able to handle, just because of the anxiety. It sucks, man.
@puebloaye7628
@puebloaye7628 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@JakeAvPDbeautifully spoken. I’ve always had to say I’m high functioning for what I have but it definitely does not feel like it because high functioning basically feels more torturous than low functioning. Great video and input!
@allyson--
@allyson-- Жыл бұрын
"these aren't stages like lifespan of a frog or something" I appreciate that comparison You constructed a helpful breakdown of the spectrum!! Hearing the range of symptoms encourages me to reframe conflicted/anxious feelings as a sign of growth from no longer shutting out everything in life. Interweaving your perspective & experiences to this video adds so much -- thank you for sharing. To me, it's clear to hear the ways you are working on yourself & challenging your thoughts/beliefs -- hope you find value & strength in continuing! Last year, I tried to focus on listening to my emotions & intuition (needs/wants). This year, I aim to improve my self-expression in face of others. This includes trusting/articulating positive emotions & practicing vulnerability.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you found it encouraging, and it's so true - it is really exhausting to feel so conflicted about something that seems so simple (what do I want?), but it really is much better than "knowing" that I don't want anything, which is how I felt for most of my adult life. I wish you great luck in your goal this year! I hope to work on my self-expression as well, but I still have to stop avoiding people a bit more before I can get started on that, haha. I'm getting there!
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico Жыл бұрын
thanks for the clear, concise explanations! This was helpful
@eliaslyman9256
@eliaslyman9256 Жыл бұрын
You've got such a way with communicating great video!
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@purplemonsoon8376
@purplemonsoon8376 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I was the one who requested it. Super interesting. I hope you’re well ❤
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you found it interesting :) I feel pretty good about 2023 - I hope your year has started off well too!
@jazmin6031
@jazmin6031 Жыл бұрын
I work in a really big us tech company. I think we can all have the potential to work on anything, ofc at the prize of energy and extreme anxiety, and depending on that specific day (my emotions can fluctuate a lot and I have really terrible days. But the next day you can start all over again). My avpd is something that I never discuss with anyone. I feel that social issues are like a muscle, the more I expose to it, the smoother it is, but it also goes away VERY quickly. I even worked on sales for 3 years! I took advantage of my looks to distract with that. Some days there was normal anxiety and other days it was horrible, but I made sure to have short interactions so my avpd remained hiden under the rug. I hope that you can pursue, next to a therapyst, your game development career :). I know the feeling, trust me. And I know that most of the time we want to stay in our houses, and is difficult to be out, but we have the potencial to achieve it. All the best :) btw. I'm a new sub
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
Thanks :) You're totally right with the muscle analogy, although I've also felt like it's a bit more than that. I get a bit better at handling social interactions, and with hiding my anxiety (better eye contact, etc.), when I'm interacting more frequently, but my anxiety actually gets worse, even when I'm not actually dealing with people. I guess you pretty much said that too, but yeah, it does make it hard. It's definitely worth working past it for some things, though, and I'm making decent progress at it. It is really impressive (and encouraging) that you're able to work in those environments in spite of AvPD.
@horisontial
@horisontial 4 ай бұрын
Hey Jake. I acquired a copy of a textbook (Den ængstelige personlighed/The Avoidant/"anxious-avoidant" Personality) written by Danish researchers N. L. Nørgaard and S. Sørensen pb. 2019. "Anxious-avoidant/evasive" is the Danish translation of AvPD - "Ængstelig-evasiv personligsstruktur". They also have a section of subtypes, but they are different (though maybe somewhat analogous?) from the source you are using. The subtypes are: The purely anxious, Anxious with strong traits of BPD, the anxious-dependent, the anxious-compulsive, the anxious-schizoid, the vulnerable-anxious narcissist and the anxious-paranoid personality. The book also have descriptions of how each personality subtype usually presents, how each usually causes distress, and how the clinical course usually unfolds. The book is not translated into English, but if anyone think it's helpful I wouldn't mind writing it out and translating it. I at most find it interesting. I am not sure how useful I think these distinctions are. It's common knowledge that personality disorders are highly co-morbid with other personality disorders. Also everybody sometimes have delusions of grandeur, paranoid thoughts, fear of abandonment etc. etc. The book is pretty interesting, though I maybe also suffer from some psychology-fascination disorder.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD 4 ай бұрын
Hi Rolf! I agree that the distinctions are not very relevant, but they are interesting to theorize about mostly because "subtypes" are the way people like to talk about particular symptoms/struggles more specifically. Got your email btw, writing back very soon :)
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico Жыл бұрын
I totally relate to the 'conflicted' and 'hypersensitive' subtypes, but I think I've improved a lot on the later
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
That improvement is something to be super proud of :)
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico Жыл бұрын
@@JakeAvPD Indeed, I'm quite happy about it, thank you. Still a long way to go but every step counts ^^ What I struggle with most about it is when the hypersensitivity was actually right, and not my fearful self exaggerating. That makes it harder to dismiss it when it's not accurate.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
@@Yarblocosifilitico Absolutely agree. I'm hoping to be around some new/different people this year, which I think will help me be more objective about my sensitivity. For me, it seems like it's gotten to a point with some people where it's harder to separate what's reasonable to be upset about vs not, because I feel like it's been justified so many times before with them, that it's hard to view a new instance on its own.
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico Жыл бұрын
@@JakeAvPD Exactly: with some people, it's hard to keep offering the other cheek (to keep forgiving and being available). Personally, my best (and only true) friend has BPD, so there's recurrent instances where I have to forgive and make an effort to differenciate the borderline narcissistic self vs his best self. My mother is also an issue because she can't help but to trigger some of my issues, due to her maternal instinct vs my independence (plus avoidant...) instinct. (I'm 30 y.o. but still living with her; planning on moving out in the next months once I have a salary). Lately I've been less and less concerned about other people's thoughts and feelings, tho. Still being nice and all, but focused on myself first, and stablishing clearer boundaries. It's tough because some people can't take a 'no' for an answer, even a beyond-polite one. But, for that, there's stoicism :P Sorry for the long post and fpr using you as a therapist. Kinda proves your intent with these videos is working tho ;) Take care. One step at a time. Thank you!
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
@@Yarblocosifilitico I don't mind at all - talking to you guys is one of very few things that lets me feel sane while constantly dealing with this stuff. Thank you, too :)
@neurodivergent7744
@neurodivergent7744 10 ай бұрын
I also Thank You, for all your videos and the book. You are author, self-psychologist and Very Nice Person. I have ADHD, AvPD (not typical I'd say... for example I'm not so afraid to meet new people and talk to them, but feel nervous deep inside due to restless and high anxiety due to ADHD and AvPD). I am pretty good in communication, but due to my ADHD combined type, I can talk a lot and very energy, but at the same times I nervous to talk to anyone. I most dislike and generally afraid to meet people from my past... schoolmates, people from collage and university and a lot of present neighbors... I have no friends and in intimacy life I have had no sex during 20 years (and generally I have had just some women and no real romantic/sexual relationships). By 35 question scale test of Fear of Intimacy I have 114-117 scores, whereas US average for women is 80 and for men 90 (I am 48 yo man from Georgia country, USSR in past). So... Thank You Very Much! Oh and I have some OCD (not OCPD) symptoms... and between Mild mood disturbance (scores 11-16) to Borderline clinical depression (scores 17-20). I have 16-18 (~ 17)... Good Luck Jake.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much man. I wish you the best of luck as well :)
@Maltebyte2
@Maltebyte2 11 ай бұрын
This disorder sux! You really dont get to experience life! ..... depresses me deeply!
@Dushmann_
@Dushmann_ Жыл бұрын
have you ever watched 'Welcome to the NHK'? it's an anime with a pretty funny take on the Hikikomori phenomena, which is basically Japanese AvPD. I think people with AvPD should watch it, it's actually really good. It's equally funny and depressing. It's always good to have a character in media who you can relate to. It's like a cathartic thing.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
I haven't, but it sounds like it could be up my alley. I definitely haven't seen any characters, in animation or otherwise, that feel really relatable as far as AvPD is concerned, and I'd certainly like to. I'll check it out, thanks :)
@neurodivergent7744
@neurodivergent7744 10 ай бұрын
Maybe not only AvPD... Hikkikomory I think have as rule and not only they as rule have a bunch of different mental conditions.
@meryemsevgin4423
@meryemsevgin4423 3 ай бұрын
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD 3 ай бұрын
😊
@camillagalli5620
@camillagalli5620 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jake, I wanted to ask a question. Do you feel like this around everybody or does it depend on the age of people maybe? Like do you feel better and more confident around adults or older people in general?
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
Hi Camilla! It's definitely a constant thing to an extent-especially when I'm around multiple people, who they are doesn't make that much of a difference unless I'm already really comfortable with all of them. When I'm just interacting with one person, their personality and mannerisms definitely make a difference, and there does seem to be a slight correlation between older adults and being a bit more subdued, which is easier for me to handle. It's probably fair to say that interacting with people around the same age as me (plus or minus 5 years or so) is the hardest, since we might see each other as more likely candidates to befriend, and so it feels like there's more pressure to not be seen as weird.
@Vollbio3
@Vollbio3 Жыл бұрын
But they are judging me xD
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
Haha, I know the feel. And of course *sometimes* people are actually judging us. I try to remind myself that it doesn't really matter what they think, but it's definitely a struggle sometimes.
@nielspedersen2579
@nielspedersen2579 Жыл бұрын
This subtype concept is neither useful nor does it map cleanly to the reality I know. I think it is best ignored.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD Жыл бұрын
Psychologists do seem a bit overly fond of their classification systems, as if by defining a more-precise label for someone they'll be able to come up with a flawless treatment method for all people categorized that way. Doesn't really work like that in reality, unfortunately.
@MasterChiefSha
@MasterChiefSha 7 ай бұрын
Are you single?
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD 7 ай бұрын
Very much so, haha
@MasterChiefSha
@MasterChiefSha 7 ай бұрын
@@JakeAvPD Wow, that' actually could be a good thing depending. Do you only like girls, or do you like guys too, or did you only like guys from the beginning?
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD 7 ай бұрын
Just women 😊
@MasterChiefSha
@MasterChiefSha 7 ай бұрын
@@JakeAvPD Awe shame, but I respect your decision. If you ever try for personality, and not looks, or certain body parts, just know there's a male who thinks you got a personality worth dating. You seem like a really cool guy.
@JakeAvPD
@JakeAvPD 7 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️ That's really sweet of you to say and is very flattering to hear. I do care about personality a whole lot, though. My brain just doesn't get romantic feelings about guys as I do for girls.
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