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Awakening Creates Purposeless Young Men: Here's How

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Sam Roff

Sam Roff

Күн бұрын

Suffering arises, even with the most noble of pursuits. In this video I discuss at length how young men specifically (although not limited to) may encounter purposelessness, nihilism and despair as a result of pursuing awakening.
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My channel is a resource for helping you reduce suffering in daily life through the application of root level solutions. This is advocated with orientating toward Awakening/Non-Dual awakening, Source-code emotional integration using somatic (emotional) inquiry and taking on an empirical, open hearted investigation of core beliefs and perceptual overlays that innocently accrue in childhood and create suffering.
If you resonate with teachers such as Angelo Dilullo, Ramana Maharishi, Jeff Foster, Suzanne Chang, Violet Synergy, Joseph Goldstein, Scott Kiloby, Michael Taft and Adyashanti - you’ll find this material very relatable.

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@Angelos907
@Angelos907 4 ай бұрын
After overconsuming one awakening video after the other and meditating all the time, I had reached at a point where I understood that " ok it' a game but I am here to play this game...."
@jeffbeco
@jeffbeco 4 ай бұрын
wow time to get full on the game
@VeritableVagabond
@VeritableVagabond 4 ай бұрын
Meditation removed from the Buddha's teachings usually becomes that way, a game. A heart becoming free from fear is no small thing.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
@@VeritableVagabond Amen - a heart becoming free from fear is indeed no small thing, especially when the darker recesses of the shadow reveal themselves full on.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Love it!
@mr.anderson3288
@mr.anderson3288 4 ай бұрын
The reality is, only the political Third Position can save this generation and at the same time give it a purpose
@Xavier11691
@Xavier11691 4 ай бұрын
It seems like you’re ultimately describing the importance in balance. Where as we relax deeply into the present moment, and manage to go as far as being able to continuously recognize the thoughts as just the thoughts, and continuously relax back into the presence. There is still a primal part of us, like energy, that needs a direction to go towards. And it is at this point where we can manifest that energy into something we align most with. In a lot of nondual teachings that I’ve seen over the years on KZfaq, they often gave me the impression that we were supposed to just simply be here in this moment, living purely spontaneously and always with the contentment of just being. And if we just dedicate ourselves to no longer identifying with anything, that life will take care of you. But through self inquiry and through constantly trying to find the right solutions, I feel like my discoveries relate to what you’re sharing. Which is that despite being present and actively remaining here, the subtle feeling to direct my energy towards a particular goal or purpose, and the urge to orient myself towards the kind of life that I want, is all a natural part of being human. To put more simply, it’s ok to both be aware of the bigger picture, while nonetheless living a human experience and using our awareness to make the most out of what we can do here right now. Part of living the human experience involves a sense of need, like the need to survive and explore. By honoring these human qualities, there seems to be balance. But am I understanding you correctly?
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
You put it more clearly than I did in the video I think just now. What you described here is congruent with my experience. Well summarized!
@ChainsTheChef888
@ChainsTheChef888 4 ай бұрын
At the beginning of my awakening I became totally nihilistic, I don’t like the system (governments, schools, etc) so i became bitter with the world and i think a lot of us go through it and after some time you get tired of feeling bitter and you start to live your life but without a care, at this point all I want is peace, health and enough money to live comfortable but I also find peace in not being attached to material things and I know that nature makes me feel peace, a good view on a park makes me feel peace, big winds in the middle of trees give me peace, a good sunset gives me peace! It started as a coping mechanism and now I actually enjoy it and need it, stress kills so I don’t really be stressing anymore as i used to, I totally let go and im not scared of death so that is liberating
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Love it man.. yeah isn't it nice to just be honest and attuned to what we deeply need? What a fkn relief... lol
@ChainsTheChef888
@ChainsTheChef888 4 ай бұрын
@@SamRoff Whenever you feel confused emotionally go to nature, you will feel the shift
@985-gv8vmj
@985-gv8vmj 4 ай бұрын
@@SamRoff this is actually called the dark night of the soul not necessarily awakening
@LWMTOSH
@LWMTOSH 4 ай бұрын
That was really beautiful reading that! I feel exactly the same. Have a good one mate x
@a.s2118
@a.s2118 4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad someone talks about that! i thought i was the only one seing that!
@terryplace560
@terryplace560 4 ай бұрын
Hey Sam! Long time no see! "leaning into your edge" I love that! It's an awesome topic. Enjoy your quest and stay safe!
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Hey Terry! Yeah man, indeed. Good to hear from you - hope things are well on your end!
@oneoutstrider
@oneoutstrider 4 ай бұрын
Haven't seen a more profound video in a long time, I really needed to hear this, something to inspire me to move with some kind of fate and reassurance, felt as if the God was sending me a message that I needed to hear, in all seriousness. All I can say thank you so much for this. May God bless you man 🙏
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Wow man I'm glad it had that impact on you. God bless you 🙏
@Jade33
@Jade33 4 ай бұрын
Something about this video transmits warmth to my heart. Thank you 🙏 this life purpose thing somehow feels very real for any age. Just holding it lightly. Deep prayer 🙏 trusting myself - beautiful. Love the birds and roosters in the background. ❤
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Exactly Jade. Yeah it was very peaceful that morning :)
@mikelisteral7863
@mikelisteral7863 4 ай бұрын
awakening creates less quantity and more quality
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Amen to that
@christinaguimond1706
@christinaguimond1706 4 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, Angelo went to medical school immediately after his awakening to no-self. There is nothing incompatible in realization with following your interests in the relative world.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Yeah Angelo is an awesome example of that. Was really speaking to the energy that sidesteps or undermines its value in the relative world in subtle ways through the guise of pursuing awakening. ‘There is nothing incompatible with realisation with following your interests in the world’ yeah I agree and said that in the video later on.
@domovoi_0
@domovoi_0 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff brother. Love and blessings!
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Much love brother
@flora4782
@flora4782 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this Sam ❤
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
You’re so welcome!
@joshgangemi8785
@joshgangemi8785 4 ай бұрын
This was awesome
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it Josh
@FutureCityAmbient
@FutureCityAmbient 4 ай бұрын
Awakening means realizing that everything is just an illusion, it starts with you, and it ends with you. What you experience is your imagination. And life is just an imagination. Once you realize that, you also understand that you can literally invent the kind of life you want. Unawakened ones create their lives according to the picture they are getting from the outside, staring with education and everything around us... I call it unconscious creation.. But being awake means being conscious. Therefore, you realize that you, and only you are responsible for your life, not the government, not the science, not the parents, not the society, but YOU. You ten become GOD, you become LIGHT, and that is the exact purpose of life. By becoming light, you influence others to seek that which you have found... Understand, that you can create and manifest literally anything you want. That, obviously, requires a lot of inner work, and going through darkness and facing your demons and unlearning as that is the part of experience you have to go through to LEARN from it. And by learning from it, you'll understand yourself and life.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Well said... I agree
@kokubeto
@kokubeto 4 ай бұрын
Hello from Vietnam. How was your experience in here? This video feels like a short guided meditation to me. Love it.
@InnaWersjaciebie
@InnaWersjaciebie 4 ай бұрын
Ye, thank you for the video and i can say for me it is hard also to just accept that only meaning is what we create, it creates no willingness to create a meaning, you just see other peoples programs and just observing but maybe feels a little scared to engage with others because the may see your programs and not being ideal too... Mind... i understand you bro, I'm on the same path and I'm trying to be the most authentic as possibly can, the most self inquiry person, I want to have fulfilled life too and I'm asking myself if I'm doing actually the right thing by being this way, I can say I don't know and I don't know may scares me actually. You may be already seeing by just reading what I just said that no matter of how much words you read, how much knowledge you possess, no matter what I write you, no matter how much support you can got from me, only who can help you is yourself... and this also applies to myself. Peace brother.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Amen to that. We have to trust ourselves. Even spiritual concepts and pursuits can easily become concepts. Just listening from stillness and a devotional heart has been a powerful guide ❤‍🔥
@InnaWersjaciebie
@InnaWersjaciebie 4 ай бұрын
@@SamRoff yep Brother we cant let ourselves be lost in this pursuit
@a.s2118
@a.s2118 4 ай бұрын
the only thing that will end suffering in your life though is to see dukha and to CHOSE in the moment, to stop it. That's the only action you have to do to end suffering.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Like a samurai of discernment 🗡
@JordyBackes
@JordyBackes 4 ай бұрын
Surrender to desire and gain real tranquility
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
❤️‍🔥
@bodycodeeternus9790
@bodycodeeternus9790 4 ай бұрын
pondering a person's purpose one's own purpose, "...at the fundamental nature of our being, I start at the definite absolute evidential aspects of myself. I was, am born with legs. .Basic purpose > to walk, to run. to be in motion, a spatial environment was foreseen in the engineering of me. ....with eyes. Basic purpose to see, to look. to look at what? ... with a structure that creates sound, a voice. a structure that is intended to create speech, language with what, with whom was I intended to speak with? .... hearing is intended to accompany speaking. the process of hearing is a tapping on my eardrum, a drumming, which has, is the sound of your voice and the words you speak. the drumming transfers to ripples of the liquid in my cochlea, inner ear, on the other side of the eardrum membrane. the ripple transfer to a swaying of hair like growths along the inside of the cochlea spiral tube, then transfers to brain cell generated electical impulses, while at each point of transfer, the sound of your voice and words are integral, are the same as when they were drummings, as ripples, as swayings. then we interpret tranlate process in milifractions of a second and reply. that is our primary language, all of ts are fluent in spark speak. purpose, function. which came first, structure or function? : -). Then we have not so evident structures with functions that together create a me, an us. with attributes of... self temperature regulation, a balance in all aspects of my me of as a state of being, self aware. All as purpose, intention of design. why> coz I need that design for being and interacting with...??? Or is the purpose of the design to initialize possibilites of as in being??? As I continue to ponder, I am in awe about the absolute certainty that I am, You are, We all are Magnificent Masterpieces of Divine Design. "...fundamental nature of our being...," ...to be : )
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful :)
@cayanaraycaudhuri
@cayanaraycaudhuri 4 ай бұрын
Your awakening helps others too on an energetic level. So not purposeless.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
I agree.
@chinchilla_462
@chinchilla_462 4 ай бұрын
There is a point in realization when all this can't even be held onto, even the notion of purpose doesn't really make sense. Same for purposelessness, making one or the other statement just feels unecessary. Actually there is a sort of inability to even construct that, like you can't fool yourself anymore in believing that its real. Though of course there is nothing wrong with it and I'm sure it can be a great tool to some, the bodhisattva vow itself drips of purpose and many ancient traditions do, but what is being pointed to by by those teachers you mentioned is just beyond that. Its beyond holding any view, including the view that says "all views are false" which can be a sticky one that can definitely be picked up around those teachers which you did mention. Its just like they recite the heart sutra in a thousand different ways in a lot of those no self videos. And in my experience the notion that all views lead to suffering does feel true, it will always lead to neglect or ignore the other side of the coin. Rather than the middle way.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
I love your clarity. No fixation on any view. So in the same way, why reject purpose ;) just holding it all lightly really isn't it.
@Deep_Woodz
@Deep_Woodz 4 ай бұрын
So is the idea that nothing we are doing defines us, but if we are doing things then accepting that fully is the same as acknowledging the unknowableness of this?
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
I think I know what you're saying, and it feels right.
@philipp176
@philipp176 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. But isn’t living one’s purpose a natural result of dissolving blocking beliefs and letting repressed emotions come up? That’s definitely something Angelo is pointing to. But I get your point that in the non dual community one can easily get the sense that everything in form/thought is meaningless or even wrong
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
I thought so, but for me the signature of full surrender to spontenaity where everything is taken care of feels like it's not quite hitting the mark. It's almost as if there is an energetic arrow that still wants to exert itself into the world despite a calm abiding in 'knowingness'. It's not so much a fundamental restlessness of needing to plug a hole to be fulfilled, but a natural movement. That's what it feels like at this stage. Maybe it's a similar energy that accompanies Angelo for his making of videos? I don't know. But the question is - if that energy is present - why would we reject it/push it away? So long as we use clear seeing and subtle, samurai-like discernment to see where we're looking for completion and fulfillment - why not just engage with the world and work with that energetic pull? Inquiry into purpose may help massage that energy into clarity, while still keeping the perspective that it's really empty either way. Something like that.
@philipp176
@philipp176 4 ай бұрын
@@SamRoff thank you for taking your time to respond. That definitely clarifies it a lot and I agree. The question I still have is, how valuable is it for someone before or during early stages of awakening to point this out? Because it could easily become a new identity that prevents deeper investigation. But since you seem to speak to people that already had significant insights, you’re doing a great job emphasising this arrow of expression 🙏
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
@@philipp176 You're welcome. It depends on the individual. When we get really authentic with ourselves, you’ll be able to feel the pulse of fixation if you listen to your deepest instinct more and more. For someone, maybe a young nihilistic man, it might be beneficial to orient toward purpose rather than see that ‘there’s no self’ - even if it reinforces some mind identification. I think the more someone listens to their deep heart truth as I described how to do in this video, the more you’ll know for yourself in direct experience if you’re fixating on red herrings of fulfillment or something. To answer you more directly, if you feel like you’re subtly hiding from taking on more responsibility in the world and you’re using spiritual pursuits to abdicate that responsibility - you’ll know if you sit in silence and ask yourself honestly. The mind will throw up all sorts of things that sounds like wisdom but can actually be fear (IE, will I wake up more slowly if I pursue something like life purpose?) But ultimately, you don’t have to reject anything. Thoughts are just as awake as abiding as consciousness. It just takes clear seeing to penetrate through that. Angelo generally recommends people go gung-ho for awakening because it helps zap them out of mind identification which has a very, very strong spell. Even for myself - I’m sure there are subtler and subtler fixations. But he also says trust yourself over, and over, and over again. For me, when that feeling of 'needing to get awakening in the most efficient way' shed THROUGH trusting what it is I actually wanted in life, things felt much, much lighter, authentic and grounded. Hope this helps man.
@philipp176
@philipp176 4 ай бұрын
@@SamRoff helps a lot, thank you. You’re right, at this level it’s about authenticity and feeling into the heart. No-Self realisation would be more the masculine aspect of awakening, but needs the balance with the feminine, which is expression and purpose. In my view at least. So again, thank you for your message, it’s appreciated ❤️
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
@@philipp176 you’re so welcome my friend. Any time.
@unlockedsecrets9543
@unlockedsecrets9543 4 ай бұрын
Ignore the haters
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
❤of course.
@patricklynam4973
@patricklynam4973 4 ай бұрын
We do not mature properly in our culture it has very little to do with awakening. People don’t have deeply fulfilled purpose driven lives and then awaken and become depressed and purposeless.
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
I'd agree - especially if there's a lot of trauma, things can be very difficult.
@Ailurophile900
@Ailurophile900 4 ай бұрын
Awakening is just that. Do nothing that is useless. If you want to follow something then do it. , you’re free. Your taking description and ideas too much. Just go do your thing and fuck these teachings. They are great and valuable but they are not the way. Only the way is the way
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Pretty much. Love it. Only way is ones own way - I had to learn to trust my own heart and instinct through the process of moving through a lot of suffering to get to such a place though. Until then, gurus were my guide - until they begin to dissolve and the path becomes guided by deeper personal instinct.
@mr.anderson3288
@mr.anderson3288 4 ай бұрын
The reality is, only the political Third Position can save this generation and at the same time give it a purpose
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
Not really sure what you mean by this
@JariMarten
@JariMarten 3 ай бұрын
Third position is most often fashism
@Prophesized1
@Prophesized1 4 ай бұрын
Follow your passion find your prupose. If awakening is your purpose great! continue with it. follow the excitement you'll get there. awakened in 2011. Can't suffer and be selfrealized. you already picked up the ego again if u did that.
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions 4 ай бұрын
Bro you just need a girlfriend and stop the nonsense
@SamRoff
@SamRoff 4 ай бұрын
😂 I have a girlfriend
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions 4 ай бұрын
@@SamRoff give her attention and focus on her You too bored I can tell.Your Girlfriend won't tell you but these ideologies of yours probably make her sick to the stomach and if you don't grow up and start focusing on real things she will leave
@felonious_unite
@felonious_unite 4 ай бұрын
@@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions she will be getting attention from someone else while hes busy pondering in a dark room instead of creating meaning and having a family
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions 4 ай бұрын
Spirituallity is EVIL LIFE IS MEDITATION ON ITS OWN NO NEED TO SIT DOWN
@AliKwj
@AliKwj 4 ай бұрын
You’re satisfied by how the world is playing out around you? Are we going in the right direction as a nation? Taking into account ego has been in charge for as long as I remember?
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions
@ExtremeHandSlappingChampions 4 ай бұрын
@@AliKwj BEING SPIRITUAL FIXES NOTHING BUT INFACT BRINGS MORE GRIEF AND PAIN.WATCH PEOPLE LIKE OSHO ALSO KNOWN AS BHAGWAN THEY WILL TELL YOU THE INNER SILENCE YOU WILL REACH AFTER MEDITATION IS BEYOND DISTURBING
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