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To be fair to Rips, the unblockable reset was a glitch and the player was told by the TO that they don’t allow glitch exploits when the player asked before the tournament. The player did it anyway.

IMO the reason bans are more common in Smash is because the community has to ban items and stages for the game to be competitively viable, so it's not as far of a jump to ban a charcter or strategy

As a Mexican I have to say: Prohibido jugar con Rugal

The volcano stage from Street Fighter 4, the lighting made things difficult to see, and the beach stage from Street Fighter 5 because of Birdie being able to hide his item throws in the water.

MvC2 also has corpse juggling partially banned. You can do it to get briefly better positioning, but you can't do it infinitely to time out the match.

Want to give a mention to one of my favorite banned techniques, ghosting in Jojo HFTF! In that game, Avdol has a super where he sets a fire trap down and can detonate it by releasing the button. For some reason, the set is almost instant and gives Avdol almost 2 seconds of fully actionable i-frames. That’s already kinda stupid, but the worst part is that he can set multiple supers at a time. When you combine this with the fact that the meter isn’t used until he detonated them (letting him have effectively infinite sets), AND that there isn’t any timer on the super, Avdol can just make himself invincible forever with nothing you can do about it! It’s been banned basically forever, and I don’t think that’s changing anytime soon.

Smash Melee has the name entry glitch. There are a few ways to do it, but it basically involves entering a name on the character select screen and exiting at the same time. The game doesn't know what to do and goes to the stage select screen by default. Depending on other factors, this glitch allows players to start a versus mode game by themselves with no opponent, play as an an entirely blacked out version of a character, have a game last 0 seconds, play as master hand, and potentially more. It's typically banned because most of its applications can be considered cheating and the game becomes unstable and prone to crashes.

The first thing I said after the intro is Wobbling. That's been know for over a decade and had been banned and not banned over the years. Smash has also banned colors due to them being difficult to see. Primarily goes back to darker colors when Congo Jungle was a legal stage.

I coach college esports, and something some of my players that don't play fighting games ask is "are you allowed to spam the same move?" I have to explain to them in FGs the onus is on the player to "deal with it" and that if someone shows they can't handle something, no reason to stop that strategy. Good vid, cool thoughts

Surprised you didnt mention the Ice Climbers freeze glitch. If you hit a grabbed player that's getting up or forward thrown by the npc climber, then hit that player with a side b from the player ice climber while the npc one is in hitlag, the opponent will be frozen in place. the evil part is escaping it. the only way for them to be unfrozen is for the ice climbers to grab them again. So its not just useful to timer stall if you're up a stock, but it's just a free kill off of a grab every time. This of course has been banned ever since it was discovered, because it's somehow even more broken than wobbling.

SFV has examples of all of them I think lol. Tons of costumes banned, notably Gill's Pyron costume, that thing is visual spaghetti. Blanka had a timestop glitch as soon as he got full meter that allowed him to instantly win, and some stages like Kanzuki Beach had water effects that obscured the ground for item toss characters. I think playing Vega/Claw on his stage is also banned since he gets new moves on only that stage.

In Smash Brawl, Meta Knight's down-b makes him disappear for about a second after which he reappears and slashes if you held the button, and doesn't if you didn't. It also has a bug where if you mash the c-stick up while the down-b is active, you don't reappear until you stop mashing. That tech is banned.

The INSTANT you mentioned freeze-glitches, I knew the Ruby Heart Arcade Meltdown was coming next.

I've learned that doing a kick flip with my arcade stick as a pop off taunt during oki for intimidation is a banned tactic. TO said it was "too much".

interesting topic of discussion! I really appreciate the depth you put into the ideas behind these videos

The GGXX banned colors thing is something I discovered literally two days ago, and was a very interesting thing so Im happy it was mentioned here. Happy new year, LK!

From the NRS/MK side, I can think of a lot of things over the years. MK Trilogy: Noob Saibot is banned. He was just THAT good. MKX: Scorpion's Infared costume is banned. Day 1 Spectral Ermac and Mournful Kitana were banned (for a meter gain glitch and easy infinite respectively, fixed quickly). A few stages are also banned for visual clutter (ex: occasional lightning strikes or the stages that are all red). MK9: there was this freeze glitch with I believe Smoke that was banned. Maybe other characters too? It was done on accident in tournament once but the 2 players (I believe it was REO vs xSmokex) got out of it quickly and just continued playing. Kratos was also banned for being a console exclusive character (exclusive to PS3 and most tourneys ran on X360 anyways). A few stages were also banned for either things moving in front of the camera or even causing performance issues. MK Armageddon: air infinites were often banned. You were allowed to do them, but only for a few reps. Super Boss characters were also banned (they were mechnically WAY too different. Couldn't be thrown, some launchers outright didn't work on them, etc.). Kreate-A-Fighters were also banned. MK11: this is shown automatically in-game, but certain custom moves are banned from Ranked and therefore tournaments as well. One of the ones I automatically think of is one of Terminator's where he activates a mode that gives him infinite armor (not just attacks but even just moving around too). Injustice 1: This never officially went through, but there was talk of banning Scorpion when he first came out. Instead he got nerfed quickly instead. He went from arguably top 1 in the game to arguably worst character in the game. Injustice 2: Custom moves are banned.

Another one for characters is Kliff/Justice in Vanilla AC. They're legal in +R, but were not before this version, but you could access them.

Great video, just a couple nitpicks: - Labcoat 21 WAS banned when she was released, most notably, on CEO. At the time, aside from everything that made her be top 1, she could combo reliably into her infamous command grab super that nerfed you and buffed her, which was pretty much unpunishable and had little scaling so you could DHC without issues. When she received nerfs that made her more fair but still top tier, she was unbanned and nowadays, there are so many good picks that she doesn't feel as overcentralizing. -Similar to LC21, S4 Bayonetta was even more broken on release, most notably she could start a true combo from 0% and kill you from anywhere, so Spain banned her preemptively. Then she got nerfs to almost every part of her kit, which made her combos more SDI-able (aka not true, but the Bayo player could adapt) and people thought that was enough to make her not busted (spoiler: it wasn't) and ban proposals were less frequent because every Bayo main would tell you to "just SDI". -Meta Knight was initially banned on a bunch of US tournaments, but many top players who picked him, especially in Japan, refused to attend tournaments that banned MK as a sign of protest, which ended up softening the bans. -Steve had a rocky story. He started being seen as a gimmicky character that was only obnoxious to react to in Ultimate's dog shit online, but more manageable offline because he didn't start dominating right away. Then Acola came to the Gimrvitational and beat everyone playing Steve, which caused people to start calling a ban for the character (Kazuya as well, but that's another story). Then more people started picking Steve, the character was explored more and tech was found. Ledge setups, more optimal block usage, ways to turn his recovery from subpar to one of the best in the game, insane combos, etc... He pretty much played his own game and knowledge checked everyone else, with the risk reward being heavily on his favor either way. This was only exacerbated by the big amount of Steve players with not that remarkable prior results, upsetting top players. Then shit hit the fan when PMLG, a tech that allowed you to ignore hitstun with the right setup, was found. Due to how hard it was to detect and revise due to the lack of visual indication and how easy it is to confuse it with a jank multihit hitbox, bans were directed at the character instead and different scenes ended up banning the character on their respective tournaments, with no unified ban because it was still a divisive topic. Later on, Acola, who established himself as the current best player in the world, commented that he didn't think the tech was that good because the setup was simply not worth it so the actual threat of PMLG was put into question, which led to most of those scenes lifting their bans offline, but the ban was still present online because due to Ultimate's terrible netcode, it's harder to react, let alone get a good punish, which benefitted Steve way more than any other character. Currently, he's only notably banned at Coinbox because Hungrybox does not share team with the top 1 Steve and at IBGames, the biggest online tournaments at US and Europe respectively.

The Steve block glitch and Melee Ice Climbers Wobbling are examples in Smash of tactics that were banned. There were also talks of banning chain grabbing in the Brawl era, but I don't think they ever wound up actually doing that. I would also argue that the ban on stalling would count, since Smash rounds last a lot longer than conventional 2D fighters.

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To add on to your point about banned colors, there's also a further subset of banned skins/outfits, specifically those skins that change a character so much that opponents might misjudge the character's hitbox, like the Blanka-chan outfit in SFV, or the Cinderblock Gigas and Gold block Jack-7 outfits in T7

In Battle for the Grid, we had one of the main comeback mechanics that was called Zord. There were multiple zords that did different things but one of them was called SPD. One of the moves this thing could do, after activation in specific scenarios, was removed air blocking from your opponents specific character (not all of them, only one) if you got a character then on incoming you could set up the Air block set up and do an inescapable unblockable incoming. Your opponent had to mess up the timing or get it wrong for you to get out. This was never banned outright but as time went on, it clearly became this is the meta. Other options were too weak in comparison

Gotta say I’m loving the greyer LK. Reppin us aging gamers very well. Happy new years dude, hope it’s a great one.

07:11 whoa whoa whoa, WHAT!!! So those colors really are that much of a distraction!! Then they must hate Tron 1982 & or Tron 2.0 PC & Tron 2.0 Killer App on OG Xobx,lol. I really dig those colors on GG. I wish I would have found this channel sooner but I found ya about 3 half months ago. Thanks to your video on Hokuto no Ken: FOTNS on the Sega Naomi Arcade HW. A wonderful coder coverted Atomiswave games to run on Dreamcast HW. Oh man, what memories watching the 1st 152 episodes of Hokuto no Ken in 2005 & 2006 thanks to my broadband internet. I had a Moded OG Xbox. You will defiantly be receiving my support to keep you making content like this. Thanks you so much!! Playing FOTNS on the Dreamcast.

I remember people wanted to ban a peculiar Ciel Color in Melty blood because it camuflaged with some stages. Also there was the SFV beach stage which birdie could hide his items in the wave animation of the beach and it was banned too.

Hey LK, great video! Sharing some knowledge from your friends across the aisle... In SSB Brawl, Meta Knight had a tech called "infinite dimensional cape" which allows him to turn invisible and invincible as long as the player mashes specific inputs. I'm sure there is footage of it, but this was almost always banned at brawl events (2008-2010 ish). Something interesting to note, is that more current brawl events don't list it anymore and im going to bet that it's mostly because they aren't aware of it's existence since it was very niche and difficult to pull off consistently. You could, however, win a whole match if you did do it for 8 mins straight and moved away as needed :). There's also the Sheik chain jacket glitch, but that was never banned. ❤Zhime

In SFV Blanka also had a freeze glitch that was pretty much a free win, though it was patched very soon after it was discovered. An example of a tactic that was broken though not banned would be Rashid's Super 2 chip sequence in SF6, but again it was fixed quite fast. SFV had so many costumes that during the final season there were quite a few banned ones due to visibility issues.

I'm surprised Infinites weren't mentioned, some tournaments allow certain amount of reps before you need to finish the infinite, infinite are either ban or limited.

Daigo said in one of he's videos that an arcade he went to banned using Guile's crouching medium kick more than twice in a row

Reminds me of a section from the sirlin book "playing to win". Where band must be discreet (characters,stages, etc. ) or enforcing then becomds really obvious.

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Great vid! Question as an observer of fgc but hardly more than an appreciative amateur long term fighting game lover. For tactics, where do infinites and glitches come into tourney play?

Great vid. In KOF XI, if you pick Vanessa as your leader, doing her infinite is kinda banned. You can only do 5 reps.

Watching the ad read because you asked so nicely. I feel that wobbling in melee is a huge example that has been banned off and on throughout the game's history. Some people feel it falls under the "well just don't get grabbed", others feel it's just too much. It's especially interesting because I feel it's comparable to infinites in 3v3 tag games, where you don't outright die because you only lose one character. In melee, it's just one stock of 4, and you don't lose an assist. Plus they need Nana to be in position when you get grabbed so not EVERY grab is a death. I'm not explicitly pro or anti-wobbling myself, I just find the history of it really fascinating. The culture difference between platform fighters and regular fighters is really interesting in that regard.

It is very common to have bans on bugs/"glitches" of arcade games that not necessarily get updated. Specially if they have bugs that freeze the game (hokuto no ken infinite DP) or make one char fly out of the screen and become unreachable till the end the match (hime on mbaacc arcade before the revisions, athena on kof 98). On the opposite end, on very new, very e-sport centric games, a lot of things also tends to get banned. SF5 might be the most well know, as on CPT a lot of colors, skins and stages were banned. Some where because the players complained (ex: visibility issues on pyron skin or beach stage), some are because capcom felt it would mess with age ratings/sponsors on streams (ex: revealing costumes for female chars). On this same thing about streams, sometimes streamers have to ban some stages/musics due to copyright stuff. DFC was a infamous one, as sony music japan just use a bot to copyright strike anything it smells. Infinite combos is the one that gets a bit more polemic. Some people want to just let infinite combos rock, others says infinites would degenerate a game/"solve it" with the infinite as the final goal. In the end, it will depends on the community, every group sees it differently. But it might be something hard to enforce, as someone have to eyeball all matches.

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I remember the Rolento freeze in SFxT and there being a big debate on if the tactic or the character should be banned because it was so easy to do on accident (if a projectile hit Rolento's dagger it would freeze the game). I think it got patched before any conclusions were drawn on that.

MVC2 dead body glitch can only be used for positioning, Gambit Cajun Strike and Royal Flash glitches are banned, Rubyheart Proximity Guard glitch is banned. I forgot what was banned in UMVC3 but i believe it's a way to make 2 characters be active at once..

Rips arena got the most entertaining tournaments to watch, glad you featured it!

Cool video dude. Very nice speech pace. Some authors talk like they be chating to toddlers 😢

Been a min since I watched a vid but you look good with the grey lordknight And good video btw

I surprised there was no mention of infinites. I know of a couple games where there are a few that are legal but I would not be surprised if there were a few older games with banned infinite strategies.

Gotta love the ryu stage theme usage from psx CvS

You forgot wobbling in melee and I think they implemented a ledge stall/grab limit at some point

Only time I've seen a thing get banned in the FGC was in Rev 1 where Johnny had the glitch with mist where he could retain access to the unblockable state outside of the mists duration. I forgot exactly how the glitch worked I just remember it was a hot topic for that EVO if they were going to ban Johnny or not, instead just banning using that glitch. While writing I do remember UMVC3 has timer scam glitches that are banned like the Nova glitch.

In smash specifically ultimate steve has a tech called pmlg, where he can place a phantom block and airbodge to get out of true combos, I believe the tactic is banned but it's been a minute since I've heard a discussion about it.

Thank you for entertaining me for 2 hours LK. Long work day, when i get home im gonna elphelt it out

Whats the name of the song used at the start of the "You can't move" segment?

most i can think of are in smash infinite dimensional cape wobbling stalling under the stage and similar stalling

In the arcade version of SF2 Guile could reset the game if you did a medium flash kick while quickly hitting medium punch before the kick. The guy who showed me that trick got banned from the arcade for using it.

Spiderman had a tactic in MVCI that was banned but you gotta use the reality stone to

Key note about Akuma in ST. It’s not just that air fireball is something characters in that game can’t deal with. He basically falls as soon as he throws the air fireball, making it way safer than in any other SF. In addition to that, he can use a frame data glitch to do an infinite in the corner, he’s immune to being dizzied, his DP is active frame 1, he does quite high damage in general, and his super is something else. So his super is a command grab like in every SF, but here it has invincible startup, can somehow grab someone in hitstun or blockstun (you can use air fireball to guarantee that it hits) and it’s one of the most damaging supers in the game. Even the stuff he has that isn’t outright broken is like Ryu but just better. He’s one of the most clear cut ban cases ever

CvS2 had throw glitches banned and duplicate characters glitch. Throw glitches did a number of things depending on character used.

7:15 I have astigmatism on top of bad eyesight The outline color shade literally looks like a wavering mirage two me It flickers just bad enough to give me a headache when they move

I never really competed in an official capacity but with my brother and neighbors we had all kinds of house rule for different game. Lol I remember at one point in tekken 3 we only allowed unblockables mid combo.

When I got into fighting games I played a lot of Soul Calibur 3 and there's this glitch called variable cancel that often (but not always) got banned in some way or form as it was very OP. I've also played a lot of smash melee and back then there was a constant discussion of whether ice climbers infinite throw should be banned or not. Generalized these two instances could be described as glitches and unintended interactions. Another thing that i've seen banned in recent years that is similar to banned colors is banning costumes, one example of this is blanka chan in SF5.

That thumbnail is funny because I was one of the loudest voices on Akuma being too strong on srk in hdr

In maver v capcom 2 its banned to do a corpse carry (you can juggle a dead character with certain moves) to stall time but its perfectly fine to use it to corner the enemy

wow that guilty gear color issue is interesting. i actually find the all black with orange outlined characters eaiser to see!

If i remember right scorpion in mkx had a banned outfit, it made him look like thermal vision or predator vision and was banned not because it was hard to see but because it was so bad it gave people headaches to look at.

Gundam Battle Assault 2 is quite fascinating when I comes to it's recent developments in high level gameplay and it's quality of life cheats which made the experience of the game much better, like making the game run in 60fps when it was originally run in 30fps (Which actually changed some tier placements) and the most cool thing to be ever allowed is the ''Game Shark Characters'', due to the emulator Duckstation having easy access to those cheats without needing a physical Game Shark (While also having a rollback mod). When it comes what's banned in this game, there were 3 characters that had been banned in competitive play for a very long time: Gundam Epyon, Dark Gundam and Psycho Gundam MK-III. These 3 are the boss characters out of the 6 boss characters, and the reasoning behind their banning is self explanatory. They have very unfair traits and lack any sort of counter play, only like 5 or less characters can play the game against them. This game is a VERY high powered game where it has so much broken stuff, the top tiers and even mid tiers have moves that would be criminal to have these days, so it goes to show how powerful those three are. It's a really cool fighting game and I hope that Fightcade will soon make it possible to have PS1 games with Rollback so people can check out this hidden gem.

The only one I saw first hand was the SNK UK tournament for King of Fighter 97, where the Orochi versions of Leona/Iori/New face team where banned as they where super busted.

Melty blood had newly found infinites banned at frosty faustings. They limited it to 3 reps maximum

in fantasy strike quince can desynch the game on command, so doing the specific things that desynch with quince has been banned in tournaments (i've been told, haven't played any myself). Quince himself is fine to play though just the purposeful desynch is banned.

I think another banned situation could be classified as Non-Interactive Position. Most commonly, this would be going out of bounds/out of world, but sometimes, you can be in the legal area just in a position that makes interaction not viable/impossible. An example would be a variety of MvC2 glitches in which you fly off the screen.

on the topic of banned colors i wanna say that there are some banned color/stage combinations in smash 64? my mind is going to samus' dark brown alt on kongo jungle but do correct me smashheads

MKX Kung Lao: had some tech banned that involved his teleport and his meter if I'm not mistaken. KI2013 Jago: had a glitch where he could do Shadow endokuken without wasting shadow meter & you could imagine the amount of health he could get back if he had instinct mode active.

In kof xi there is a bug when you defeat a character and the other comes out there is a few frames he is vunerable and can't defend many character can abuse that this is banned in tournaments

I play Touhou Hisoten few years ago, this game is probably one of the game that difficult to get an infinity combo due to the reset system. There is one character that can actually do infinity combo (because the move if repeatable), but the reset system it designed way more clever. The system will count the hit limit, each hit will have different value and if it already reaching 100 or over, the opponent who receiving the hits will fall down and the hit box will be disabled until they are awaken and in ready stance. The system will only active for aerial combo or juggled combo. So if the attacker on air, it will activated, and if the opponent got juggled, it will also activated. For this reason, there are no character ban, no move ban, except for one. Stage ban. There is one stage with snow as the background. One of the character's projectiles moves also white and so it is very difficult to tell where is the projectiles position due to the snow background.

In Vampire Savior (Darkstalkers 3), there's a technique where Lord Raptor (Zabel) can loop unblockable resets with his j.LK. Apparently, not all tournaments ban it due to it actually requiring some skill and dexterity, but some do iIrc. Also, some games ban stages for all kinds of reasons. Visibility, uneven length, performance, balance, you name it.

I recall in KoF 98 tournaments they limited the number of loops in infinites. For example, ex characters had a hop instead of a run, characters with air command normals tend to have infinites doing hop + air command normals, they would let you do an arbitrary number of them in a combo. Or like Kim's "dive kick" when he caught you in the air, you could loop a few reps

I don't play Guilty Gear: Are Gold/Shadow skins not available for everyone in XX?

SFV had banned costumes in tournaments like a Blanka chan or some of the Megaman crossover costumes. In terms of banning tactics, in modern patchable games it *feels* like evryone just lets stuff rock until its done in a tourney and then it gets patched. SFV Dan had an infinite that was known and wasn't banned. There is tourney footage of the Dan infinite which later got patched out. The announcers were hype for it, " Is he going for the Dan infinite?!" Chars, costumes, those they get banned, but otherwise fgc kinda reverts to EAs old slogan, "if its in the game, its in the game."

Loosely related would be rules that don't directly impact the fight, but are banned too. For instance, shouting to disrupt someone's Ice Climber's wobble, or being coached at certain times.

Blanka in SFV had a freeze glitch where he could kara cancel his super into his surprise hop, which would cancel the startup animation but keep the screen freeze and just let him move around. because the opponent couldn’t move, he would just walk up and command grab them or anti air if they were already jumping. then after the super screen freeze ended, because he never actually did the super, he still had full meter and would just do it again

Honestly, you should do a video on banned techniques in platform fighters. There are so many ways to fuck with the various smash bros games. I always look back at the infinites the series has like the infamous Wobble infinite from Melee where you could grab someone once and infinitely hit them in the grab, then finish the throw for an instant kill. Hell, Steve has actually been banned at several smaller tournaments because every month, someone finds a new tech that breaks the fundamentals of the game specifically for him. Even pros are demanding he gets banned

iirc, the Shadow Dio infinite is only allowed at 2-3 reps for JJBA Heritage for the Future. The combo is pretty simple to do

I want to see that BBCT glitch live if it did happen in a tournament but nobody confirmed it in the comments

Smash has had some tactics bans like ledge grab limits, camping bans, etc. These tended to be in the older games, as later games patched out some of the really abusive stuff you could do.

Could've talked about tekken 5 steve, obnoxiously broken, and there was one string that was banned. and also MVC2 and certain infinite bans.

I think the biggest ban I can remember from back in SF4 was banning the Blanka costume with the ring on his back. It made it really difficult to tell when his blanka ball was actually going to end, which was already difficult to begin with. First time I could think of a banned costume in a game. And then they started that trend more heavily in SF5.

nothing was more fun than playing friends in mvc2 and doing the gambit glitch with the health lead lol

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I know that street fighter 5 had certain stages, colors and costumes that were banned in CPT tournaments. Brian_f made a great video on that.

I wonder if Tekken has any banned tactics. Like I know Steve has his infinite in 5.0, but I'm not sure if that was banned. There was also a gamefaqs post talking about Tag 1 Armor King having a timer scam glitch where he can mount and unmount the opponent until time ran out

The beach stage in SFV if I remember correctly

the only tactic i know that was controversial and sometimes banned is wobbling from smash melee. When u pull it of its an infinit grab with ice climbers

Also, never forget Tager Circus in BBCF.

As an arena fighter, stuff like this happens non stop. From the tournaments I play, we ban a lot lol. We really just wanna throw hands. Each team gets a ban per player or captain. If you have a bigger roster in your game, you usually go with a “ban per player”. And each team can ban an assist type So if each team has 3 players. They can choose 3 characters and 1 assist to ban. You really wanna choose characters you don’t do well against (obviously). For example; “We ban Danzo, PTS Shino & Pain. We also ban the “Dash Cut” assist”. Then the other team would get their choice and it would commence to a First to 10.

What comes to mind for me is timer stalling in melee, like how Armada played Young Link.

infinities was just ban in the middle of a tournament, is there any other infinities banned earlier?

I cant remember which game, but I distinctly remember a tournament banning infinites and only allowing like 2 or 3 reps before you were required to let it drop. Another banned tactic was megaman in.. Street Fighter Cross Tekken? I think it was? Where he could fly off the stage. Also some tournies for CVS2 banned the simultaneous super glitch which put one character under the floor. I wouldnt label this in the same vein as the handcuffs since technically you can still keep playing and finish the match.

I still remember when Leroy got released for Tekken 7, I think he got banned in at least a few tournaments

My entire group found out a friend had epilepsy because I ran the eclipse color in XRD which resulted in them having a seizure. That's why I never run that skin anymore.

Alot of them are either completely unreactable or stalling tactics especially in tag games most of the marvel games had multiple glitches and mechanics just banned i think there was like an infinite junp reset glitch in one of the street fighter turbo type games where you could get a life lead and just fly away making it impossible to win for the opponents and you just stalled for time by flying and coming up through the bottom of the screen so yeah especially before patches could be cranked out in a day and fix bugs or balance of a strong character

There's the 3rd strike Urien freeze glitch where if Remy parries aegis and then neutral throws Urien, Urien is frozen for the rest of the round.

Another thing about ST Akuma - even as a player version - he still has instant recovery from dizzy.

I remember in Italy in Tekken 5 era, Heiachi's 2,2-1+2--->ff2 guaranteed was banned cuse 65 damage for a i10 punish was considered broken 😂