Beautiful Taekwondo In Kickboxing Match (ITF TKD)

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We have Argentinian Taekwondo practitioner Ludmila Zarate in one of her earlier matches in Taiwan. She used her ITF Taekowndo effectively against a standard kickboxer. Let's see what lessons we can learn about martial arts, combat sports, kickboxing etc. Also, have you seen Ludmila in King of Dragons? Leave your comments below on what you saw! More Taekwondo to come!
0:00 Round 1
3:25 Round 2
6:06 Outro
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@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

To see Ludmila in King of Dragons: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5acZJWjs6-qj4U.html To see the ref (高瑋濂 Gao Weilian) in a Qi La La video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gpuVeNmGzbjckX0.html Interview with Ludmila: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqd1h8hp0JyyqZ8.html Kwonkicker interview: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZ5ng9uny5erhKs.html Original match that I covered here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd9-rZqYza3RpnU.html More of the surprise guest at the end: kzfaq.info/love/4T3dhjRy2yp6FMQAQSSgsQ

@ludmilazarate5323 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jerry for sharing TKD fights!!! It was a great match, my opponent is a great fighter so I enjoy a lot this kind of competitions!!!

@davcar23 2 жыл бұрын

Muy buenas peleadoras las dos; te depara buen futuro en el deporte. Felicitaciones!

@ludmilazarate5323 2 жыл бұрын

@@davcar23 muchas gracias!!!

@fafney 2 жыл бұрын

Great skills Ludmila and your moves are elegant ! Nice to see you fighting. You help the promotion of TKd, Merci !

@ludmilazarate5323 2 жыл бұрын

@@fafney thank you so much 😊

@astonwrath6879 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for showing that our art can stand strong in the RING

@johnashley5746 2 жыл бұрын

seeing ITF applied so well makes me proud to be learning that style. I hope one day to be even one fraction that awesome. Her moves were so fluid. 👍👍👍

@ryanliu494 2 жыл бұрын

Making TKD great again lol

@jestfullgremblim8002 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah ITF is better than many other arts

@shaypatrick7497 2 жыл бұрын

TKD is great its the WT federation whiich is destroying it.

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

@@shaypatrick7497 WT is NOT the same as ITF, though. Two completely different arts with the same name.

@franz6993 2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidBarnwell876tkdja well its not completely differents arts

@isaacyeon6334 2 жыл бұрын

@@shaypatrick7497 modern WTF just sucks, power era was so much better back in the 80/90s

@franciscogonzalezramirez5033 2 жыл бұрын

ITF TKD is almost like kick boxing, except maybe for the full contact part, but you do see a lot of KOs in ITF matches, and some judges don't enforce light contact in those matches. Anyways, I think ITF TKD overall has more tools in its bag than kick boxing alone, ITF TKD fighters just need to adapt to the fighting setting.

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts!

@heavymeddle28 2 жыл бұрын

Think about it - whenever an underdog like tkd always is, it's always "beautiful tkd" or if tkd loses, "bad taekwondo". Nobody seems to think about that maybe, just maybe, the kickboxer weren't all that great. Just saying... But it was beautiful tkd. Textbook tkd. Fit for Tekken😊❤️from Thailand 🇹🇭

@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 2 жыл бұрын

Now this is something I am proud of as a former TKD practitioner.

@Joobkl 2 жыл бұрын

Good fight. TKD girl had good foot movement and combos. MT may have done better if allowed to clinch

@juanantonio192 2 жыл бұрын

God i love to see more of karate and tkd here in the channel, its so good and unique

@zlatko6951 Ай бұрын

Ludmila, this is the best female fight in Kickboxing I've ever seen. I love ITF and thank you for showing the world that the can count on us! Beautiful fight

@racebarescscs8728 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid man, thanks.

@Unikatze 2 жыл бұрын

I took one of those jumping reverse side kicks to the stomach in a tournament once. They hurt a lot more than it looks and train your stamina like crazy.

@judosailor610 2 жыл бұрын

Tae kwon do is kind of an odd duck when it comes to actual fighting. I mean you’ve got two different strains of it both of which think they’re superior, but actually they both have their flaws. ITF is basically point fighting (which is what it was when I did it, although I’ve heard now you can win by knockout but only in a weird sort of way that actually seems to make the whole thing unsafe). WTF is full contact, which sounds great, but the rules are super restrictive and they use too much safety gear which basically makes it completely unrealistic. And yet, on the other hand, TKD practitioners of both stripes have been making the transition to full contact kickboxing for years! I mean, going all the way back to early ikf days. And they generally do well. That tells me that taekwondo as an art is pretty decent, but you just need to train it like a kickboxer.

@brian9967 2 жыл бұрын

Superfoot Wallace was a karateka

@judosailor610 2 жыл бұрын

@@brian9967 Well, dammit. You are, of course, right. You’ll have to forgive me because back then so many people called everything “karate” even when it wasn’t. Shoot, even TKD was once just called Korean karate! But thanks for the check. I edited my post.

@judosailor610 2 жыл бұрын

@RED CHUCKS i’m not sure what your point is, but deaths in Olympic/WTF tkd are SUPER rare. There’s barely been a handful. Freak accidents aside, people do kickboxing and MMA with far less gear and it’s actually relatively safe. But the overuse of safety gear in WTF is why a lot of guys have trouble making the transition to other forms of full contact competition. Shoot, just look at some of the TKD versus kyokushin competitions. By and large, the TKD guys get mauled. They are often taken out by body shots, because they’re not used to taking full contact body shots because their hands feet and bodies are all padded in WTF competition.

@judosailor610 2 жыл бұрын

@RED CHUCKS It doesn’t necessarily mean that. Those are almost certainly freak accidents. And unless you can point to one specific example, we don’t even know what the mechanism of injury was or why they died. Maybe they fell down and landed on their head! Either way, deaths almost never happen (I’m pretty sure they are in the single digits) despite it being a worldwide sport and an Olympic sport Where people have been competing since the 70s. Three or four deaths over all those matches and all those years is statistically insignificant. Anyway, I never said they weren’t hitting hard. The problem isn’t that, it’s their ability to take and deal with being hit. All that padding they cover themselves in keeps them from getting used to being hit without them and keeps them from learning how to deal with being hit properly. It’s also simply not necessary. You can safely fight full contact without all that gear. Mind you, it’s still better than point fighting, and at least it’s full contact. My original point was simply that the restrictive rules (no punching to the head, and a pretty stubborn refusal to acknowledge and score punching to the body), and the overuse of safety gear make it a less effective form of full contact.

@Abluemoon9112 2 жыл бұрын

@@judosailor610 it has all to do with conditioning and not the gear. People in any style need to condition to be hit and that is all.

@moominpic 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of ITF style TKD clubs in Central/East Europe do kickboxing as well as TKD.

@rylie8989 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Love seeing both tkd matches and ladies matches. Also love seeing cute puppies!

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

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@rylie8989 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary aww so adorable!!

@Yjp40459 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the blue corner was primary practicing boxing and recently year got into kickboxing that's why she uses less kicks. My gym sometimes have some co-events with her gym :)

@Mustard_Dispenser 2 жыл бұрын

That’s actually a pretty decent head gear for kickboxing. We use those at WKA nationals.

@kevinlobos5519 2 жыл бұрын

Leaving a late comment for the algorithm. Ludmilla is a really good fighter in the making

@yanyanzhang5813 2 жыл бұрын

The only TKD I respect: ITF.

@scrapperkickboxing502 2 жыл бұрын

A couple reasons why these helmets slip so much. #1. Often, the same helmets are used for the entire tournaments for multiple users. Their cleaned in between each match but there probably is some expansion between each user. #2. Because the fighters are not using their own gear, fit will vary. #3. The Adidas helmet here, which is standard equipment for WAKO competitions, are a one piece foam construction vs foam with a vinyl or leather surface. In my experience, while they can be slippery, the lack of friction takes off a bit of the edge of a clean and powerful strike because it moves a tad bit vs having a tight fitting grippy helmet that sticks all the power into head. I don't know if that's by design, or an unintentional consequence of material, but I will say that the helmet did not slip as much when I used them and no more so then when I use my own leather headgear.

@ziyangyipfilms 2 жыл бұрын

That was a good match!!!

@mochiisntbad6762 2 жыл бұрын

Tkd combos are great

@DePencil 2 жыл бұрын

you can't knock people out with head punches in ITF taekwondo but you can knock people out with kicks

@moominpic 2 жыл бұрын

ITF sparring allows head punches

@DePencil 2 жыл бұрын

@@moominpic but you can't knock ppl out with head punches

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

@@DePencil Yes, you can. We do not allow knockouts, period. But, there's no-one saying..knockout with a kick? OK!! Knock-out with a punch? FORBIDDEN!!

@jon...5324 2 жыл бұрын

ITF taekwondo tends to be a lot more realistic and applicable in fights, especially if you have a teacher who focuses on those things

@RespectEnVy 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps Muay Thai clinch would be the game changer here.

@flowerswerewarpaint646 2 жыл бұрын

Great fight

@EjnarRaidriar 11 ай бұрын

In ITF you are allowed to do knockouts only in defense, like a counter. If you did a counter and switched to attack with a combo, you are not allowed to ko anymore.

@shinomori69 2 жыл бұрын

Blue needed better coaching before the fight. She had heart and ability but her punches were too looping. Ludmila had better training in this fight.

@RavageEffex 2 жыл бұрын

Yes even the sweat makes the mask slide sometimes its frustrating no matter how tight u make the helmet

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like whoever invents a better head guard for competitions is going to be rich!

@RavageEffex 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary your on to something

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

@@RavageEffex Makes me wonder maybe an airbag type approach is better, so it's not even a helmet, it's just a light crown on the head. So normal blows don't get blocked by it, but anything that causes a real concussive blow, the crown will airbag and prevent actual KO. There's research to say that the added weight on the head gear actually make blows worse because it torques the head even more. So the head gear should achieve its intended purpose which is concussion prevention.

@raphael2966 2 жыл бұрын

I would say to both fighters: Kick the balls.

@zeusraptis5834 2 жыл бұрын

I always say if a TKD fighter spar more and learn from different styles = Awesome fighter Jair garcia for example

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking at Jair Garcia right now!

@zeusraptis5834 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary yair Rodriguez* sorry I misspelled his name

@jestfullgremblim8002 2 жыл бұрын

Nah man, ITF taekwondo doesn't need so much other things. They do need clinching and grappling tho

@zeusraptis5834 2 жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 well if you know a thai fighter fights, if you know how a kickboxer fights, you can predict and know their weakness, but you are right TKD needs clinching

@ABCDEF-uz9fd 2 жыл бұрын

So would that evolve into Acrobatic Kickboxing then or just TKD 2.0?

@lilith4961 2 жыл бұрын

Which one is the TKD? Im not savvy enough to figure it out

@cahallo5964 2 жыл бұрын

Red shorts

@lilith4961 2 жыл бұрын

@@cahallo5964 thank you!

@sirpibble 2 жыл бұрын

The samurai used their top knot to tie their helmet to their head and stop it from slipping 🤯

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

That's so interesting!

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

How would your hair prevent a heavy helmet from slipping, though?

@godsofwar1186 2 жыл бұрын

Blue has to pressure more.

@theitfguy 2 жыл бұрын

ITF is known for Semi-Full Contact after many years ago, a gentleman’s internal organ, I forgot which one, ruptured and he passed away. This is why they shifted from full contact. To be fair at the end of the day, people are still getting knocked out with punches and kicks, and you usually don’t get penalized for it, unless they see it happening let’s say 15 times in a row, maybe they’ll give you a minus point, after 3 minus points you can be Dq’d, but you gotta really fuck up for this to happen, where as most of the time you’ll receive warnings which is different minus points. You can receive 20 warnings and be fine, but 3 minus points and you’ll be disqualified. But who are we to judge if the opponent also has a glass jaw, or A sensitive stomach. Also, another key difference ITF we spell it as Taekwon-Do. Where as Olympic style WTF spells it as Taekwondo.

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

I thought we were always OFFICIALLY light contact though? What's said OFFICIALLY and what happens in PRACTICE, especially, inn international competition can be VERY different. When did the accident , you mentioned, occur?

@theitfguy 2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidBarnwell876tkdja this had to be back in the 80’s if not possibly 90’s when no head gear was even required. You can tell man, go look at old videos of Tapilatu, Tomaz Barrada, Katya Solovey. No head gear and those guys are putting others to sleep right and left. My father mention that story to me when he was at the World Champions St. Petersburg Russia in the 90’s. He helped write the constitution for the ITF for General Choi when he was still alive, before it got super political and all split up… it will always be mention as Semi-full, but I see people getting knocked out all the time, so I kind of guess it’s take it as it is

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

@@theitfguy Yeah, I used to argue that ITF was, in reality, a full contact style. I've been hit hard and I've hit other people hard AND I've seen folks get knocked so??? How is that NOT full contact? I've seen people argue thatv you're not hitting as hard as you can so..that's not full contact? Weird argument. But I remember GM Katz saying that what they don't want to see is people extending strikes through their opponent. That will get you DQ-ed right away. I was also watching a video on Bunkai, last year, and the author mentioned that in punching, in self defense, your hand should make impact at 50-75% of full extension. You fist will be vertical (50% extension) or angled inward (75% extension) at that point and you straighten it and rotate it as you punch THROUGH your enemy....or... try to, at least. So, to me, that's a full contact strike. Basically, to me, it's a strike made when the attacking tool is not fully extended and follow through and mass is applied to extend the tool through the opponent's body. I think it's different from tournament striking where we are mostly striking at the end of our punches and kicks rather than trying to punch THROUGH people like George Foreman. It's punching like punching a board, I think.

@theitfguy 2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidBarnwell876tkdja you have to remember ITF is originally a self-defense art. The sparring part is just the competition aspect, so of course there will be rules in place. Just like mma, it is not self-defense, it is a sport, that is why there are rules and points. There are lots of techniques I have learned in ITF I could never do in sparring that have come naturally to me as I have transitioned into Muay Thai and Dutch, moves I thought I may never use which is remarkable. Back to the full contact part. When I have competed at local tournaments it’s somewhat of a controlled environment, but the variables really change so easily, I.e. say championship round, they may let you go all out. Vs when I have competed at national/international competitions, they know you are here to show who the best of the best is, and they’re don’t seem to care that you’re throwing 100% as long as it’s with good technique vs just throwing haymakers and just looking sloppy

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

@@theitfguy Ahh, thanks. I'd no idea that was the reason we currently go light contact. Still, I'm not hating on that decision. I don't think people should fight hard if they're not fighting for serious money.

@circulationsolutions9149 2 жыл бұрын

To Lumi, only drop your hands to bait her! Let her commit to a target and take the counter chance!

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

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@Taekwon-Brando 2 жыл бұрын

Knockouts are absolutely allowed in ITF Taekwondo

@DavidBarnwell876tkdja 2 жыл бұрын

No. They're not. It used to be that if you ran into an opponent's strike & got Ko-ed, then, the opponent would not be DQ-ed. They've gotten much tougher in recent years. They're trying to avoid things like CTE. So, OFFICIALLY KOs are NOT allowed. In practice, that very much depends on local judges and referees.

@Taekwon-Brando 2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidBarnwell876tkdja I had no idea thanks for the update mate

@LRkun 2 жыл бұрын

Is the other girl really a kick boxer? Feels more than the tkd girl is one. Except both of them don't batswing their kicks. It could probably just be medium spar. But the red girl knows how to judge distance, the blue one not so much. Maybe the blue one wants to land a counter blow. Either way it was entertaining. No turn kicks or hook kicks or turn hook kicks, so probably just spar.

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

I'll do more research on the other girl.

@LRkun 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary you can see as to how she tries to kick the front leg. She's trying to tap it. Either she's not used to sparring, or isn't confident. But she lands solid blows. It's like a boxer starts boxing on their toes, then goes flat over time to land power shots.

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

@@LRkun I looked at the interview with 林李唯怡 Lin Li Weiyi and it looked like she is more boxing trained. So she might be new to kicking. So this was a great match. Ludmila who is TKD going against a boxer in kickboxing match. Both kind of out of their element.

@LRkun 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary makes sense now on how they move as to their stances :)

@aswinmannepalli3212 2 жыл бұрын

More taekwando please!

@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 2 жыл бұрын

5:40 reaching low

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

Bro, I was too focused on the fight to notice, but now that you pointed it out, I can't unsee it. Thanks a bunch man...

@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary no problem. I help as i can 😁.

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@thomashuskey7821 2 жыл бұрын

Why is it that how Taekwondo COMPETITION is structured is always a point of discussion in matches like this? Both WT and ITF Taekwondo schools teach punching (yes to the face) and kicking combinations very similar to this. The format of competition is not a direct indication of what is taught in the school. Nor does it mean that students aren’t taught to keep their hands up and to punch when appropriate. People think that because the competition is one way, then the school must SOLEY be teaching this to their student and it’s just not the case. Taekwondo can be applied to any style, but I have yet to see someone not of a Taekwondo background traverse to Olympic style Taekwondo and do even remotely well.

@rylie8989 2 жыл бұрын

Why? Because while it may not be the case for all schools, you're kidding yourself if you think it's uncommon for the rules of competition to massively influence what is taught in a school. I'm not familiar with WT TKD though, when you say they teach punching to the head, do you mean that outside of competition it is included in sparring? Or that it is taught in patterns/drills/etc?

@ABCDEF-uz9fd 2 жыл бұрын

@@rylie8989 If that is the case then they just learned Basic Boxing as an Add on lol. It's enough to fend against basic or bad Kickboxers/MMA Fighters.

@rylie8989 2 жыл бұрын

@@ABCDEF-uz9fd sorry I'm misunderstanding, are you saying the fighter in this video has learned basic boxing, or saying that in general it's a good idea for tkd practitioners to also learn some boxing? I'd certainly agree that combining tkd with a combat sport type art is a great way to go.

@danielburgess7785 2 жыл бұрын

Two round match? Curious. Was the promotion worried about the ladies gas tanks?

@ArmadusMalaysia 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like the rounds are as short as the olympic tkd tournaments.

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

How long are Olympic TKD tournaments? I didn't watch too much TKD in the Olympics so I don't remember.

@Ace-io5of 2 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary three rounds of two minutes

@FightCommentary 2 жыл бұрын

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@TheNEOverse 2 жыл бұрын

I believe this is an amateur match, not pro.

@Mustard_Dispenser 2 жыл бұрын

You didn’t mention how great the tkd practitioners footwork was.

@SkilledKill 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like kickboxing with in and out movement lol dont see too many Taekwondo specific movements. She throws teeps like a kickboxer

@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 2 жыл бұрын

Not that good. Was alright

@ExoticGTRX 2 жыл бұрын

Its the same thing lol

@davcar23 2 жыл бұрын

Your Kung fu is no match to the doggie dog style!

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