"Because I was Inverted" : Behind the Scenes with the REAL TOPGUN Instructors

"Because I was Inverted" : Behind the Scenes with the REAL TOPGUN Instructors - F-5 Group (2/2)

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TOPGUN Instructor Pilots/RIO discuss the filming of the first TOP GUN movie from its inception to filming with the F-5s and how TOPGUN has changed over the years. Part 2 of 2. www.cwlemoine.com
Robert "Rat" Willard is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the 22nd Commander, U.S. Pacific Command from October 19, 2009 to March 9, 2012. He previously served as Commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet from May 8, 2007, to September 25, 2009. Prior to that, he served as the 34th Vice Chief of Naval Operations from March 18, 2005, to April 2007. On March 9, 2012, Admiral Willard retired from the Navy after 39 years of service having flown the A-4, F-5, and F-14. On May 9, 2012, he was elected president and chief executive officer of the Institute of Nuclear Power Operations. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...
Sandy "Jaws" Winnefeld is a retired US Navy admiral, fighter pilot, TOPGUN instructor, and captain of the nuclear carrier USS Enterprise who last served as the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Jaws flew the F-14, A-4, and F-5. He is the author of SAILING UPWIND: Leadership, Risk, and Innovation from TOPGUN to the Situation room: www.amazon.com/Sailing-Upwind... He also hosts his own podcast The Adrenaline Zone: www.theadrenalinezone.com/
Greg "Hollywood" Dishart is a retired U.S. Navy commander, TOPGUN instructor, and airline pilot. After leaving TOPGUN in 1986, he went on to fly the F-14 until he retired. He also flew the F-5 and A-4.
Pete "Horse" Caulk is a retired U.S. Navy commander, TOPGUN instructor, and airline pilot. After leaving TOPGUN in 1988, Horse went on to fly the F-14 until his retirement in 1994. He also flew the F-16, A-4, and F-5.
Rick "Organ" Hammonds is a retired U.S. Navy commander, TOPGUN instructor, and airline pilot. Throughout his career, Organ flew the F-14, F/A-18, F-5, F-4, A-4, and A-7. Check out Organ's interview here: • From the Bayou to the ...
Dave "Bio" Baranek is a retired U.S. Navy commander, TOPGUN instructor, and F-14 Radar Intercept Officer. Bio left Topgun in 1987 and returned to an F-14 squadron. After several staff jobs he was selected to command Tomcat squadron VF-211 1997-98, then retired from the Navy in 1999. After the Navy he worked as a defense contractor in IT and then training and readiness. Bio has also written three books about his flying experiences. www.topgunbio.com/
Lynn "Secks" Seckinger is a retired Marine Corps lieutenant colonel. After TOPGUN, Secks went on to fly the F/A-18 and eventually commanded MAG-42 Detachment A at Cecil Field. He also co-authored the requirements document that resulted in the F/A-18E-F Super hornet. Secks also flew the A-4 , F-5, and F-4.

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@baghdaddymike6669 Жыл бұрын

MOVER! How the heck did you pull this off?!?!? We all dream of being part of something bigger than ourselves, and you, sir, have written a piece of history with this interview, and you did it EXACTLY the right way. Thank you Thank you thank you for this series.

@woolymittens Жыл бұрын

Sitting in on a bull session with these guys is such a privilege! Thanks for making these happen Mover!

@uiyhjlfsawrre Жыл бұрын

A pleasure and an honor to get to listen to these guys talking and telling stories. Love the fact that you let them do 98% of the talking, and don't interrupt with questions or comments.

@Orvieta Жыл бұрын

Better than 98% of YT content creators indeed.

@ronmoore5827 Жыл бұрын

One of your best Mover, a group interview with the All Star team of fighter guys. 40 years later and they're all still laughing about how much fun they had while working as hard as they ever worked before or after.

@tracymckinley5919 Жыл бұрын

There aren't enough thumb ups for this video! Thanks for getting this great group together for some unique insights!

@AmericanAbsolute Жыл бұрын

This is the stuff right here! You continue to outdo yourself, Sir. To have all these prior Naval aviators on at one time, well it's just an honor in and of itsel. But to be able to listen to their perspectives of Hollywood's Top Gun version and real life United States Navy Fighter Weapons School, now known as the United States Navy Strike Fighter Tactics Instructor Program is about as awesome as it gets. Dagummit, the pilot's that actually were the ones in the movie and what made the original Top Gun movie as realistic as possible without CGI and making it a documentary. It doesn't get any better than this. Outstanding,Sir, and Thank you! I'm a fan for life! 👍👍👍👍👍

@yodaisgod2 Жыл бұрын

Turning on & off the pitch augmentation to mess with a RIO is epic stuff.

@dandlb Жыл бұрын

To you, maybe!

@shawn2443 Жыл бұрын

Amazing job Mover & Organ 🇺🇸 I still get a WTH look on my face whenever I see “Navy” plastered on a Viper. 😬

@brucehearn2621 Жыл бұрын

Some seriously good, and entertaining, gouge. It’s great that the interwebs allows this sort of oral history capture. The U.S. is so fortunate to have an organization like Topgun. Keep it up, Mover.

@richb313 Жыл бұрын

These guys are the real deal thanks for bringing these interviews to our attention.

@Tr0nzoid Жыл бұрын

It is neat to see the people behind the names in the credits under "Top Gun Instructors and MIG Pilots" and mind-blowing how much time has passed.

@BillClay88 Жыл бұрын

This is too cool. The badasses BTS. Also, they plastidipped the planes. Lol.

@bluerex03 Жыл бұрын

Heater put out a book, "The Cutting Edge". As I recall, his degree is in (photo) journalism from the University of Missouri. His book is a collection of the pictures he took while flying an F-14. If you find a copy, buy it.

@trainer1 Жыл бұрын

You're right. That was a great hardback with amazing photography.

@robbyblanchfield3686 Жыл бұрын

An absolute pleasure to listen to all of these legends. Lt. Colonel Seckinger, "Secks", was my NJROTC instructor back in high school. Great teacher and a privilege to he more of his stories.

@Fireguy723 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing. On a side note if Horse got his callsign for the reason I think he got it, that is priceless! 🤣🤣

@tripodman322 Жыл бұрын

Thanks mover for all you did and still do for us

@Mahlgus Жыл бұрын

this is awesome

@Doubleelforbes Жыл бұрын

Awesome double feature. Seems to me the chemistry we witnessed here in this chat contributed greatly to a successful project. Horse and Organ nearly killed me, then just as I thought I was good ..... Hollywood comes in and seals the deal.

@skipker Жыл бұрын

This is the very best video on KZfaq, Mover, Hollywood, Organ, Horse, Sacks, Bio, Rat, and Jaws, you gentlemen are true heroes. You have lived lives most only dream of. Mover, you could write a bio on these great men. It would be a big seller for sure. Thank you all for your service

@TYLERNAVYGUY Жыл бұрын

"Rat" was my XO on the Carl Vinson back in 93! Spent Many hours in the Rat Hole Gym . 9 years in all on 2 seperate tours.

@LouT1501 Жыл бұрын

What a great bunch of guys! And an incredible conversation. Thank you so much, Mover!

@FourScoreAndSeven Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview and moderation. Would love to see you get a show on Fox Nation or other streaming platform discussing aviation, autos, life etc. Well done!

@matsadona Жыл бұрын

Wow. Imagine spending a whole evening in that company listening to their stories having a beer or two. I love that you always let the guest be the star in you interviews/videos. That isn't that common nowadays.

@TheBvirgilio86 Жыл бұрын

When I watched part 1 last week I was excited to see if Adm. Cassidy was one of the pilots you had on because I though I remembered him saying he flew one of the F-5s in the movie. After he retired from the Navy, the Admiral was my mom boss during his time at General Atomics so I heard a lot of his stories second hand. I thought he was in charge of Top Gun at the time but interesting to find out he was the CO of Miramar. This is such a cool episode that reveals where a lot of the little details from the movie came from. Thank you.

@dandlb Жыл бұрын

He was actually Commander, Fighter and Airborne Early Warning Wing, US Pacific Fleet, COMFITAEWWINGPAC, aka COMFIT. I think he was a 2-star in that job. The CO of NAS Miramar was a Navy captain (O6).

@28boudreaux Жыл бұрын

I spoke on the first video and mentioned "Horse" showing us around the facility. Part of our tour was him sitting me in the mock up of the F-16 cockpit. Quite an experience.

@DefenderTIM Жыл бұрын

What an incredible interview panel!

@dougstitt1652 Жыл бұрын

Bio were you telling them all they were number one ? Great listen thank you all for the time and good stories . Thx Mover

@dandlb Жыл бұрын

Egg-zackly! I was naive! I never suspected!

@dougstitt1652 Жыл бұрын

@@dandlb loved the instant reply of yours lol nothing like old friends , you guys looked like ya could have went on for another hour or more fun to watch . Pilots and rio's / navs. you guys have great stories .

@Coffee4two2008 Жыл бұрын

it just keeps getting better

@DKLabs99 Жыл бұрын

That was a true pleasure to watch. Thank you

@gusm2752 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Keep ‘‘em coming. RIP SNORT. 🇺🇸

@lynnecheermom Жыл бұрын

Excellent discussion! Thank you Mover!

@joeshovel2 Жыл бұрын

Awesome two part video!!! Thank you to all you guys!!! 👍

@dgax65 Жыл бұрын

That was absolutely fantastic. I love this sort of content. Keep up the great work, Mover.

@privateer454 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing content to get documented for posterity. Thank you!

@quicktastic Жыл бұрын

Incredible. Thank you for putting this together. Now I have to go watch Top Gun again 😂, I haven't watched it quite a while. It makes it even more special hearing these guys talk about what went into it.

@TruthAlways59 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thank you for sharing Mover!

@OneCupOfCoffee204 Жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed both Behind the Scenes episodes, thanks Mover.

@michaelsbowers Жыл бұрын

Hey Mover, AWESOME job with this!!! Great listening to these guys! Thank you for putting this together!!!

@Garythefireman66 Жыл бұрын

This was so much fun hearing all of those stories. Awesome video Mover 👍🏼

@JimmyD_C172 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mover. Documented for eternity. Well done, Sir...

@Chinfo32 Жыл бұрын

Great video "Mover"!!! Great seeing all of you discussing your work and opinions and great background stories that really fill in all the gaps and efforts not only about the movie but military aviation. Bravo Zulu, Gentlemen!!! Hope we always learn more!!!

@dereksmith1803 Жыл бұрын

Great interview

@dennisseger6717 Жыл бұрын

Great bunch of professionals ❤️🇺🇸

@davereaville4927 Жыл бұрын

That was gold! Thanks!

@magdalena_emilia Жыл бұрын

Loved it! Would gladly listen for another 40 min, it was way too short;)

@CommomsenseSmith Жыл бұрын

That was awesome Mover one of the best!

@Orvieta Жыл бұрын

Good stuff, looking forward to the A4 and F14 group.

@BelmontGaming Жыл бұрын

been waiting for this!

@davejohnston5925 Жыл бұрын

I was stationed at the LA MEPS when the movie came out... one of best recruiting tool DOD ever had. I did pre-entry physicals and ASVAB testing at the time... quite a few non-collage applicants wanting to sign-up thinking they could become fighter pilots. Now I'm Army but, to those applicants wanting to fly, I suggested they take the Aviation Maintenace route either with the Navy or the Corps. Those signing up for the Air Force I'd smirk to myself and wish them good luck.

@dearmash Жыл бұрын

Outstanding!

@shaunroberts9361 Жыл бұрын

This was the best podcast i have ever watched MOVER. And to each and everyone in this podcast thank you for your service and dedication to our Armed forces. ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!

@bbbb98765 Жыл бұрын

Love this ... old friends chatting about goofing around in pointy jets

@arthurpearson3407 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding, Mover!

@HEATER_ Жыл бұрын

Way to go Mover. I don't think we would've seen this anywhere else.

@gamedemon89 5 ай бұрын

Is this the coolest conversation that’s ever taken place?

@LeeShand Жыл бұрын

This was a banger!

@rparret Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video, Mover. I recognize some of these mens’ names from the credits of the first Top Gun movie.

@MichaelReed609 Жыл бұрын

These interviews are my ASMR.

@robmorgan1214 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Holy crap mover! That was am amazing interview! Disappointed you didn't get one of em to say: TOMCATS! Did you make them tell you no?

@Bender2497 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mover! Always great to hear these stories. Just goes to show that even back then the pilots liked messing with the RIOs....sometimes we'd have fun with the new people back when I was AD. Great times, and great memories. I was a single seat Hornet driver. What we used to do to the new guys is that we'd take them out on BFMs and tell them to put in a JDAM code on a station and lock the rack to do a practice bombing run before the BFM. In the Hornet, if you have a JDAM code in the jet, it reduces the roll rate by about 1/3. So essentially we'd handcuff the new guys just to mess with them. Made dogfighting much more interesting, LOL...

@luminary69revision2 Жыл бұрын

Wait a minute… this isn’t Monday!

@hobsyllwin2562 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Thought the same. It is Wednesday. But it isn’t Wombat. … 🤯 I am confused 🤣🤣🤣

@samsignorelli Жыл бұрын

"Horse" Caulk.....BWHAHAHAAA!! He must've KNOWN that was coming!

@Hihohiho56 Жыл бұрын

I would like to know how everyone of these pilots got their call signs...

@billbrockman779 Жыл бұрын

Good to see fellow Yellow Jacket Admiral Winnefeld.

@dandlb Жыл бұрын

I was a Yellow Jacket, too. 1979.

@acidburnicp Жыл бұрын

No one can top this.

@chrischammas1 Жыл бұрын

Ok, first of all love the video so far… however before I forget I wanted to say that Pete Caulk has the best call sign ever. A few other great call signs on this panel too.

@chrischammas1 Жыл бұрын

Just got through it. What strikes me about aviators in general is communication. These guys always seem to have something poignant to say. They might go off on tangents but they always seem to come back and, figuratively speaking, land the plane in a way that the next guy can easily seg into. Makes for great conversation and makes your job easier as a mod. In general you guys are great communicators which makes sense since it’s a critical skill when you’re up there doing what you do. Great discussion overall and nice to hear about the human element of FWS

@CalebChapman12 Жыл бұрын

Can we hear more about this rear vs forward quarter stuff?

@lcskibird8883 Жыл бұрын

We have one of the Top Gun movie F5s at ESAM, Empire State AeroSciences Museum...

@deantait8326 Жыл бұрын

The Song ‘Danger Zone’ I believe helped promote the movie. BTW I grew up in the Movie/TV industry in So Cal. I always wished the studio’s would be a bit less dramatic (aka- Corny) but I guess they’re making movies for the general population and not experts in whatever industry they’re replicating

@aragogando3468 Жыл бұрын

Best of the Best.... all i have to say on this...

@nickyb.9588 Жыл бұрын

Is be interested to get your thoughts on the chinook that crashed in idaho?

@PetsoKamagaya Ай бұрын

The 28 dislikes are from the pilots who finished in 2nd place with the plaque in the ladies' room downstairs.

@Shelbyj13 Жыл бұрын

I saw that F5 at the Abbotsford airshow in 87. They had to cover it with plastic at night because of the paint.

@billrbca Жыл бұрын

kudoos to you Mover....just sit back listen an grin....

@Donybike Жыл бұрын

what was that last story about letting RIOs fly, but disengaging some kind of flight adjustment system or something? Didn't really caught that one.

@AA-xo9uw Жыл бұрын

The pilot would disable pitch augmentation when the RIO had the stick.

@Donybike Жыл бұрын

@@AA-xo9uw Thank you! That's what I didn't catch

@Fox-One1937 Жыл бұрын

Those are the real expandables

@steelswitch1245 Жыл бұрын

Can you do a reaction to James Bond: Tomorrow Never Dies? The beginning of the movie has some interesting fighter plan action.

@becauseimbatman5702 Жыл бұрын

27:50 what does this mean? I assume that bug out refers to leaving but I'm unsure as to the acronym (ATOL?).

@dandlb Жыл бұрын

Yes, bug out means leaving an engagement. Atoll was the radio call for a threat IR-seeking missile, based on the NATO codename for what we called the AA-2, which is now known as the Vympel K-13.

@becauseimbatman5702 Жыл бұрын

@@dandlb thanks

@frostfive3991 Жыл бұрын

I believe you are referring to AWOL which is short for 'Absent WithOut Leave'. What he said, 'Atoll', is a radio warning for all friendly aircraft of a hostile AAM being fired.

@mikebensch2869 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Bravo Zulu!

@Fox-One1937 Жыл бұрын

7:00 give those 2 some F35 and let them repete the inverted stufs so "horse" can make the perfect pic shot to calme "organ"

@robertperry6048 Жыл бұрын

What is the origin story of the call signs for each of you gentlemen ?

@OTLMIKE Жыл бұрын

Where was Bozo? that is the pilot Tom Cruise talks about flying with in the F14

@cfiirotorcraft-helicopter 11 ай бұрын

Mover, If you haven’t met Organ’s dad yet, or visited his hanger @ KHUM you should go see him. You won’t regret it, he’s the real deal.

@AugustusTitus Жыл бұрын

The only question I have is how does the T-38 stack up to the F-5?

@CWLemoine Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t

@dandlb Жыл бұрын

CW is right. Some facts: The F-5Fs that we flew at TOPGUN had larger engines than the T-38: F-5F had 10,000 lbs thrust in a/b; T-38 upgrade has 6,600. F-5F has a wing leading edge extensions; leading edge flaps (due to their configuration they were called "leading edge flaps" and not "slats"); maneuvering flaps; shark nose for low-speed handling; and probably other improvements over the T-38. These are just a few things that come to mind as relevant in air combat training, not considering the weapons capabilities.