"Mistress of the Winter Constellations", they call her.

@@christopherg2347 and The Cleaner

I am hoping for them to be loving family but in public act like how people expect them to act

Seeing her family all sweet and nice to each other, after slaughtering/enslaving a ship crew and selling off the ship could make for quite the twisted scene if well written.

Didn't we meet her brother or cousin or something?

@@michaeldaniels642 Distant cousin that runs a shop

Ohhhhh like the crooks on Stargirl. Straight up evil villains but a wholesome family that genuinely loves each other. They even bring cookies to there neighbors/mortal enemies

Congratulations you explained the joke :)

@@coreblaster6809 yeah you can analyze it as because its so easy to her, she joined Starfleet for a real challenge.

cannonically, she isnt quite just a pirate she's a trained orion pirate assassin.

@@fishbaitxThe Mistress of the Winter Constellations, for that matter. Don’t forget she and her sister were trained to be the Tip of the Moonlit Blade

Anyone remember "The Viper is Coming" GI Joe episode?

Well she is the mistress of the winter constellations

​@@lonerider68 That was one of my favorite G.I. Joe episodes.

@@lonerider68you took me back with that… yeah I’m a year late

Exactly

I bet she acted dumb during the interrogation to cover for herself.

​@@velvet1463Maybe they didn't need to assume, she was an important pirate from a syndicate family, I think Starfleet is aware of her capabilities and maybe they where the reason she was accepted at the accademy despite being a criminal

You forgot Youngstown

I am so sorry. Are you OK? I would give you a hug but I don’t want to get any of the Cincinnati on me.

At least it's not Detroit

At least it was Gary, Indiana lol

I don't get it

dude straight up just killed himself

She's cheerful and friendly and terrifyingly competent. I love her so much.

Scientist/fighter/pirate🤓😎

Five years! You mean well trained Starfleet officer

@@keiyakins that is like description of the entire lower decks crew...

​@@ApocryphalDudenow we know she was trained as an Orion Syndicate assassin too.

She got lost in the moment

She's "inhabiting her role", okay?

Shut up. She's pirating

literally going "shh! I'm pirating!" 💀

We must protect the "eeeEEEeee", so we may never have to deal with the "GRAAARRR"

I will look for you I will find you And I will take yer stuff.

Congrats, it happened

Except unlike Mesk, Worf did practice and learn to be Klingon Warrior. He even won bat'leth tournaments, though being a tournament fighter and actual fighting might be different. Plus in Deep Space Nine, he did earn the respect from other Klingon for beating the snot out of Dominion's gladiators. To be honest, not sure how Mesk can practice since piracy is totally illegal, let alone privateering (the closest thing he could do is Starfleet, which he is doing).

I would really like an episode where the Cerritos encount and get attacked by Orion pirates and then the crew finds out that Tendi's family is involved. Also i think that we need to know more of the characters' past. we know Rutherford past, also would be nice to see flashbacks of Mariner and Boilmer in their Starfleet Academy years.

@@powerist209 Exactly. Worf could easily practice the things he did. Tho, Mesk could've still learned some of those pirate skills even not put into actual use.

Good news, from the future! 😃

@@powerist209 It's called "red teaming". Though from what I've seen Starfleet doesn't do much of that. They had like that one episode of TNG where they gave Riker a junky ship and had him fight the Enterprise...

Using pirating as a verb, Tendi is such a badass.

Every time I hear Tendi's name, I think "bucket of chicken!" Not sure why 🤔😅

Thats a pirate roar and is meant to be intimidating and threatening. Intimidation and the appearance of threat are time honored pirate traditions!

​@@stormtempterf8058Exactly. 18th century Earth pirates didn't hoist a smiley-face and crossbones!

The Orions could have kicked Borg but in those battles, even if Tendi probably wasn't in Starfleet when they happened. The Defiant is probably much like an Orion ship small fast and deadly. Unfortunately the Orions avoid stand up fights, Orion is technically part of the Federation so protecting Orion and the Federation is Star Fleets job. If the Borg had gone anywhere near Orion though family and Syndicate ships probably would have shown up from the entire sector. Orion lore has been spotty in the TV shows, the original animated series and Enterprise went into it more than any others. However, it's been written about in novels and games since the 70s. The writers from Lower Decks actually pay attention to these sources of lore. The following Lore dump is technically all from unofficial sources now: When Orion's joined the Federation it was for economic reasons. They already had a massive fleet of ships, most were armed merchant vessels owned by independent or family operators, and the Enterprise series explained they already had a long history of piracy against themselves and other space faring races they made contact with. Their home world always denied it had any control over the pirates and claimed they were not sanctioned by the people and government of their home system. When Star Fleet was being formed and it was decided that the individual worlds defense fleets be rolled into Star Fleet, and even the Vulcans and Andorians were giving up or decommissioning some of their ships, all the military appropriate ships of Orion defense forces disappeared. The small family operatored "trade fleets" and Syndicate forces all of a sudden had a lot more heavily armed ships though. The government of the Orions home system still insisted that although they had ordered their defense forces to hand control over to Star Fleet some of all the crews mutinied and stole their entire fleet. The Orion government and captured pirates on some of those vessels haven't changed that story since. Although Federation intelligence and law enforcement has suspected all along that the people of the Orion worlds of the Federation support the Orion Pirates and the Syndicate no significant proof has ever been found against any civilian political leaders that Federation law can act upon. The local Orion governments don't tend to follow any leads provided to them by the Federation either. So everyone pretty much suspects that all Orions are involved in the various piracy and Syndicate illicit trades. The only time the Federation and Star Fleet can do anything is when they catch them in the act of something illegal. However, with only a couple of exceptions whenever Star Fleet has ships that could do anything about it anywhere near such illegal operations the Orions behave them selves and act like model citizens of the Federation, quirky but obviously not involved in any of that unsavory stuff. It hasn't helped that humans of certain persuasions and family histories have joined the Orion Pirates, at least there are rumors of such things, and helped them move things around on human worlds discretely. So even raised by unaffiliated humans on Earth, many Federation citizens are going to assume Mesk was a pirate anyway.

But what do they mean by syndicate

I doubt that any mortal race in the Alpha Quadrant outside of the Husnock would have been a match to the Borg. The Orions would have been able to put up a decent fight, but they wouldn’t have been able to inflict enough damage to take down a cube. And clearly you can’t pirate a Borg ship, it’s not exactly like they have a bridge you can take control of.

@@barnabusdoyle4930no but you can at least sabotage it as seen in the best of both worlds

@@vickytam5096The Syndicate is Star Trek’s space mafia.

Johnny Depp with his Jack Sparrow persona.

Gabbagool

Michael Imperioli and Drea de Matteo as Tendi's parents does sound neat.

Tim Curry reprising his role from Muppet Treasure Island.

Father B'Rt Tendi played by Nolan North --> also VA for Oswald Cobblepot, aka The Penguin from Batman Mother Shona Tendi played by Lauren Tom, aka Amy Wong from Futurama Pretty untrusty characters in my opinion.

only people from there can say it like that

Bengals fans can lol

S3E1 All three of them together could barely restrain Mariner. Granted, Mariner was more motivated, and they had different goals- I think Tendi was staying in Starfleet mode, so she would probably be a match for Mariner on her own if she went Orion mode.

@@neolexiousneolexian6079 retraining is a whole different martial art from what we see Tendi do.

It would be interesting to see an enemy turn Tendi against the crew of the Cerritos with some kind of mind control or whatever. Tendi unrestrained would be a match for anyone on the ship and her knowledge of ships in general and the Cerritos would make her a force to be reckoned with. When Tendi and the boys tried to fight control of the Cerritos away from Mariner, Tendi was not fighting at full force so that doesn’t count. Tendi is probably my favorite character from this show.

You know, it's really hard to tell. She doesn't ACT like someone who was disowned by her family. She's very casual when she mentions that they didn't fully approve, and she seems embarrassed by her heritage, but overall? If she is full-on estranged, she's hiding it very well (could just be that good ol' Tendi cheerfulness). I always just assumed she was more like the black sheep of the family, getting teased/bullied by her relatives for going into Starfleet.

Good news! an episode in the newest season does actually go into it and explain. Not gonna spoil, but its quite nice.

@adambasinger6239 Indeed SPOILER The situation about what i expected, and is potentially even more wholesome than I first thought. Her parents are supportive, if dismissive. "Yeah, whatever, go join Starfleet. just don't forget you have SOME duties here still. Now go get your kidnapped sister like a good sibling!" And I love that the episode confirms that Tendi is a trained master assassin. You know, on top of being a medical genius and a proverbial FOUNTAIN of positivity.

Oh it works! If someone comes charging at you screaming at the top of his/her lungs, carrying a strange device that might be a weapon, while you are totally cold, you (and me) would book it too 😆

Tbf.....pheromones

I can't say that I was too lol

@@drphot6050 *wasn't

Who wouldn't be?

Aliens. that's how i made my Tendi boff

Exactly, that's what I was thinking, too.

What about Monster Maroons?

@@CaptainBardiel Excuse me. What do you mean?

@@harvey2906Monster Maroons are the fandom name for the Wrath of Khan through Enterprise-C era red Starfleet Uniforms.

@@3Rayfire Good to know. Thanks for the info. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Well, I found the uniforms of the Wrath of the Khan film quite strange. It reminded me more of Canada's Mountain Police than Starfleet. At that time, they wanted to change everything to differentiate themselves from Star Trek - The Motion Picture. Which I think is a bit of a shame because the uniforms looked better there. On the C Enterprise they omitted the turtleneck, which I didn't like either. Maybe that's all there has to be to encourage the reinvention of the world of Star Trek. In any case, I think some uniforms are wonderful and some others shouldn't necessarily exist.🤓

@@harvey2906 Those red uniforms were Nicholas Meyer (the director, also did Star Trek VI) wanting to go for a more miltaristic affect. Also it helped that the Cast DESPISED the TMP uniforms with a passion. Gene loved the onesie style of the TMP and TNG season 1 & 2 uniforms, but there was a problem. For the TMP uniforms it was impossible to go to the bathroom in them, and the TNG uniforms caused some of the cast to have back problems. Futuristic space suit style without futuristic space suit comfort. I may be mistaken on this, but if memory serves the reason they took the turtle neck out of the 24th century version of the Monster Maroons is that they lost the Trapunto stitching machine that is actually needed to make it and the machine is very rare or at least was at the time before internet searches and Online retail. So they omitted it as a transition to the TNG uniforms.

Only getting the issue on this video, which is weird

"Not gettin' paid enough."

SAME...I even gave it a full day and still nope

Boimler and Rutherford would get indirect vengeance for the anbo jyutsu beating though she might be conscious long enough to realize it!

Boimler being from Modesto explains his entire character.

Bull, we are a tough bunch of people. I can’t think of a state that raises them tougher.

@@nikkkeating4055 "tough". Right. The state that didn't impeach a senator after he defended a pedophile and supported an attempted coup.

He had Orion parents but was adopted by an Ohio couple. He probably had a rough childhood unless someone really reeducated the people in the Ohio area. Some states are not friendly to non-white people.

Well that was his choice.

I think it's a broader category of how people who feel obligated to live up to certain stereotypes can clash with those trying to escape those same stereotypes.

He’s meant to be the Orion version of worf

@@Conbom3 Except Worf did learn and practice to be Klingon. Sure he is known for getting his asses kicked, but he also beat the snot out of Dominion gladiators in POW camp (plus he did won Bat'Leth Tournaments).

@@powerist209 Oh yeah totally but this show is meant to be sorta taking the piss a bit

@@powerist209 He also is responsible for the death of both of K'mpec's possible successors. He's really an inverted Worf. Worf being raised by humans led him to study, and be more Klingon than most Klingons. Meshk just faked it. Also Orions aren't really that open with their culture and they let stereotypes and and myths about them persist in order to amplify their prestige and threat, while also keeping people from having any actionable intel on their operations. Meshk not being raised by Orions would therefore never get to learn about things inside "the family".