When Kissology DVD set was released, they did a one-day-only showing of one of the makeup era concerts on the big screen in our local theater. My friends and I bought tickets and tailgated with food and beverages outside the theater. It was fun seeing a Kiss concert like that on the big screen. Maybe when they finally retire they'll do it one more time and let everybody see the final show on the big screen since we couldn't be there.

The Love Gun Tour was Kiss at there zenith. A theatrical cut of one of those shows (in theaters) would have been HUGE.

I just yesterday drove 600 miles from Virginia to NY where I live. Thanks to Sean's channel it got me thinking, "why not listen to my lifetime favorite band KISS?". I listened to Alive, then Alive 2, then the first KISS album I ever bought, Rock and Roll Over, followed by KISS on shuffle (Spotify). It kept me so freaking awake and brought back such awesome memories!! I do that trip every few months, and always just listened to XM radio. I'm usually drowsy a few hours in. Not yesterday. Thanks Sean, for reminding me that my entire youth, and adulthood was only a few clicks away. These videos are good for me!!! I appreciate your channel!!!!

I cant help it - they look just as coooool in this "Las Vegas-outfit" as they ALWAYS did in the 70s... and still sounded great... Love from Sweden 💖

It would be great to see a KISS show on the big screen!!! Let's petition them to release one!

Fantastic Sean .. biggest KISS fan back in 74-78 Your work here is so informative and riveting .. didn't know a lot of this .. ty 😊

It wasn’t Casablanca that spawned the solo albums, it was KISS trying to hold the band together in the face of Ace and Peter wanting to do their own stuff.

Here in Australia, we had the Las Vegas residency show in the theatres. It was friggin' great! Yes they do need to show something else too. Maybe the very last show at MSG.

This is really great, Sean. What a nice, professional job. It amazes me to see fans like you who put together amazing-quality product that far exceeds anything OFFICIAL put out by the band themselves! Thanks for this! Can't wait to see further content you put together!

amazing they managed to survive this time period. Most bands would have been done.

Love that advertisement from 1978 advertising the Kiss solo albums. These days they would have held the top 4 album chart positions easy. They are all good albums, but imagine the shock to Paul and Gene's ego when Ace produces one of the greatest rock albums of the era. This ground Gene and Paul's gears as they brought in only midrange material and Ace just had a thing to prove. A live concert from the 1979/1980 in surround sound and IMAX. I'm sure it is out there somewhere.

This was an AWESOME JOB...

Great research, a bunch of info I had never heard. Thanks!

Paul's 1979 costume is so great.

just wanted to let you know that i think you've reached an entirely new level of quality of work! this is excellent, and something that i've never heard of, either. i think blowing up on the yt kiss scene is inevitable for you. looking forward to what you come up with next.... edit: that peter criss zoom-in was hilarious lol

If you ever see Kiss solo albums with a missing corner , it was one of the millions returned to the label.

Creatures of the Night would’ve made a great concert video release!

Awesome video. Criss speeding up and slowing down live must have driven everyone to the brink. I've seen bands get in fist fights on stage for less. hehe.

There was a ton of footage filmed during the Australia tour that was supposed to be used in a film! The tanking of kiss in the US; had to be the reason for not releasing it!

Either the Love Gun Tour, Spirit Of '76 Tour or the Unmasked (European) Tour!🎉

Great stuff thanks!

Manythnx Sean🤘

The usually very confused Youtbe algorithm put you back in my feed😅 Great work as always man 🤙

If you examine the KISS concept from initial presentation until Dynasty, it feels like the ability to refresh their image each year had run out of steam. I think going from black and silver to a rainbow of colors illustrated how depleted the band had gotten by that point. KISS had toured endlessly and were worn out. Doing the type of movie presented was something that really fractured the band, because it was clear the project did not get everyone's consent (and for good reason). History shows that fracture created allot of the turmoil that collapsed the band. Drinking and drug consumption were exacerbated from exhaustion and creative misdirection that led each of the members to their respective corners and vices. Because two of the four were choosing other means to escape, did not limit their impact on the damage they were causing. In my eyes, the solo record project was a terrible idea because it fed the fracture and provided a false sense of relief and possible escape from the band issues which became apparent soon after. This is why most of us who followed the band from the mid 70's on, feel the pinnacle moment was Love Gun and Alive II. Once the movie came out, essentially every bit of credibility they had worked their butts off to receive was thrown out the window with a childish film that completely defanged their mystique and their appeal as a band with an edge to them. Putting on capes and singing disco was the final nail in the coffin. While I understand that was the moment where younger kids came onboard and embraced that period, it did not provide the band with the bump in commercial appeal that would replace the losses they were sustaining from their core fan base. This is why their crowd demographic changed drastically on the Dynasty tour, because they had already begun taking on heavy losses from those who had seen them only two years earlier.

A full on, Stop Making Sense kinda concert film of the Destroyer would be absolutely legendary I reckon. 1976, best year for Kiss by a landslide.

My first KISS show was on the Dynasty tour at Madison Square Garden. As for a concert to be shown in the big screen I'd have to go with the Alive 2 stage which I believe was in support of Rock and Roll Over. Thanks for the great content Sean

I liked all of them

Hi Sean . I hope you're doing well . Thanks for making and sharing another great Video !! Some of the info that you stated I did hear about several years ago . But a lot of what you said I have never heard . I didn't know that Peter basically acted like an immature little brat ON STAGE and fluctuated the Tempo . That's totally f 'ed up !! But anyway , . thanks for another great Video Sean . Take care . 🎸 Now I'm going to watch a Video of yours titled " The Worst Of KISS " . LOLOL . This should definitely be good . I've been putting off watching it til now . So , off we go. LoL

There have been many lost Kiss movies. They had one in the works -- probably never filmed -- in 1979, The Elder in 1981, and another in 2000 that was never made.

I do remember that Music from "The Elder was also going to be a movie too. LOL

Good video, thanks

This is so cool.😎😎😎

Kiss did make a movie (film) and a cartoon series, Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park 1978, Cartoon was in 1979, nearly launch in NBC. They did show the opening episode.

There is the 1978 true kiss live in Japan concert film. It is said to be lost but I have seen it many years ago.

Stage show from the KISS ALIVE II would be the obvious choice for a big screen. But the black and white '75 footage would be great with some AI editing, as well.

Great storytelling, sir. Thanks for the video!

Kiss Live In Vegas received a limited worldwide theatrical release, so they've already done a cinema concert film.

They were great on Millenium

Just... Lovely idea!!! I would LOVE to see a tour film, or a Hollywood adaption with carefully picked actors, during the early years - the tour in a ... Don't know the english word: Herrgårdsvagn... To see Stinky (Gene) and Whatthefuck(Ace) share a single room wall to wall with Look, Im not gay at all - I have hair on my chest(Paul) and Don'tyatry it I'll stab you (Pete)... I would soooo wanna see the movie about 1973-1975... Love from Sweden 💖

This is a great video Sean! How have you been? I have been looking for all my KISS stuff and I might record a video for everything.

The solo albums were a part of their contract

So pissed that my brothers went to see this at the movies without me

If a fictional movie is ever made about Kiss, the best era to focus on would be their Eurotrash phase from 79-81. It could start with Gene, Paul and Ace introducing Eric on Kids Are People Too and end with the Elder.

Interestingly, the solo albums were negotiated into their second record deal in the mid 70s. They weren't a snap decision to keep the band together in 78. Julian Gill has copies of that contract indicating the solos were included and all 4 would only count as ONE Kiss album in that contract. As well, Ace had said that he didn't' contribute anything to Rock & Roll Over because he was saving his material for that solo album.

There should be enough footage in the vaults to make a HD concert/ Doco now

I think they should've done a collective live concert movie from all KISS Eras: Early KISS (1973 to 1975) Golden KISS (1976 to 1979) Broken KISS (1980 to 1982) Makeup-less KISS (1983 to 1989) Comeback/Revenge KISS (1992) Reunion KISS (1995 - 2001) Imposter KISS (2002 - Present) 7 Eras - each one has 15 - 20 min. worth of live footage. Maybe a quick blurb about what had happened in between each. Man, now that I've thought about this....I wish it would happen! But it won't. It's too good of an idea if I do say some myself.

Cool!

3:53 - Isn't this how the Clash film "Rude Boy" (1980) was filmed?

i bought all 4 of the solo albums

Watch out dude, the Gooch will get you.

I just had to waste 10min of my life watching this! My first concert was at 14 and I got to see kiss and Bob Segar. I left there in the kiss army and couldn't remember anything Segar played except for Nutbush city limits. I think they played that anyways. Tell you the truth ,other than knowing that they were still playing the Alive 1 tour sets,I don't remember much past cold gin and Strutter that kiss played! But I was a fan. And I can't forget all the fire,explosions and other effects like ACEs smoking guitar. In fact I almost got a piece of the cheap guitar that Paul busted up and threw into the audience! It was their live shows that were their hallmark. I finally grew up and discovered what real music was in my early 20s. I had chosen Aces side in the fight. Chriss really was messing up pretty bad and couldn't get sober. I had realized Ace was actually the better of the musicians in the group. Or let's say he tried using more than the lick or 2 most of the songs from the first 3 albums all seemed to have. I still like some of the old songs. Destroyer is still my favorite album. I probably have 10-12 Kiss songs sprinkled throughout my playlists. 3 off Aces solo and the rest off Destroyer, Dr.Love and songs from the Elder. I will give honorable mention to Alive platinum for the best mix and sound and to sycho circus for what to me sounded like a experiment in a heavier edgier sound. But it didn't make up for the bad marketing when they dropped the makeup. Kiss was never going to get anywhere with their musical skills. Tho they're really not that bad. Gene and Paul had good rock and roll voices. Gene was also a very decent bassist. Paul a very good rhythm guitar player. Peter was over talented for the group. At his best he could hold his own against any rock drummer past or present. His drumming skills in Kiss were like putting $25,000 worth of wheels and tires on a $300 Pinto station wagon! Please guys! Retire!

Are they going to remaster the solo albums or CDs and are they going to make the vinyl colored

Some things best left un-found.

Interesting. I wasn't aware of the timeline details for the planned movie which made sense they were ok with kiss content but not kiss members acting lol

Maybe they were worried a new drummer and a new character wouldn’t be well received by casual moviegoers? Idk. Speaking of that new contract that KISS signed, I can’t help but wonder if that was the same one Chris Lendt wrote about in KISS & Sell? Sometime around 80-82 KISS secured a lucrative royalty deal which would pay them $1.20 per unit(album) sold. This is also a minor reason that KISS was broke throughout the 80’s. Even though Ace quit, he was still under contract until 1985. Creatures of The Night and Lick It Up were certified gold, but Animalize was *supposed to be* a big money maker since it went platinum not long after release. But since Ace was still under contract he got 1/3 of the royalties. $1.20 x 1,000,000 = $1,200,000 Ace received approximately $400,000. I imagine the band would’ve fared better financially if Ace hadn’t been getting a cut.

I owned the Animalize Uncensored Tour, unfortunately, on VHS. I think a great tour (era) to film would be a Behind the Scenes of the recording of Destroyer after finishing touring for Alive. 75-77 is definitely the peak for this group.

There’s an Alive II movie out there. I’ve seen part of it on KZfaq

Wow I've read all 4 of their books and this movie was never mentioned

Back in the 2000's I saw a U2 Concert film in IMAX; it was done really well, and felt as almost as good (better in some ways) than watching a concert live. A high-budget KISS concert could also be good, but it should really just be a concert film, without some gimmicky plot about fans or whatever.

I swear there is a lost official documentary out there too, I remember getting it out from the library on VHS in the early 90's, it was not X-treme close up because it featured the video for 'Who Wants to be Lonely' in it. Drives me mad..

sound like something Alice Cooper did with "Good To See You Again" concert film when he did something similar. this concert film idea would had washed away a little bit of stink from the tv movie phantom of the park.

Best years to do it would probably have been 1978 instead of Phantom, 1979 after the success of Dynasty, or 1997 fall/winter with the Reunion Tour being so well received.

ALIVE III was a live concert film. Released on DVD instead of being put in theatres because.....greed.

Alive 2 was supposed to be on the big screen but never happened...so we stay with meet the phantoms of the park😅😅😅

1979 Tour would have been the best.

well with the same set up / set they also filmed the videos for she so European & Talk to me. which featured eric car. maybe with their popularity going down hill at the time they thought it isn't a Good time for a Kiss Movie. NOT a Movie but i thought Kiss exposed 1987 was a Good one, and Extreme close up in 1993 was really Good with paul & Gene Talking and old Video clips.

Best concert film would have been filmed 77-78 !!

I wish they could have licensed the video for KISS DESTROYS ANAHEIM and cleaned it up a little. There would have been no need or reason for can added framing plot; maybe splice in some interviews. The band has always been at their best when they were playing live. It was always my understsnding that the one who suggested doing a solo album first was Ace; he allegedly b threatened to leave if that didn't happen.

They should have lost Kiss and the phantom of the park too.

I liked the film they did kiss meets the phantom of the park x

Even though KISS was my favorite band then their popularity started fizzling out with the hard-core Rockers! "I was made for loving you" was an embarrassment in spite of the album hadving some great rockers like "Hard Times". KISS ALIVE II should have been filmed and released in theaters. They were Giant Rockers then.

April fools Day, 1980 - KISS signs a lucrative 6 album deal with Polygram, plus another Peter Criss solo album. This is what happens when a label looks at the numbers but doesn't do due diligence on the quality and popularity of a band. They probably didn't even listen to other rock records released around that time to get a feel for the direction music was turning. Peter Criss missed out on the pot of gold by getting spectacularly fired, and Ace quit after the second album. The money had nowhere to go but to Gene and Paul's bank accounts.

Creatures and alive 2 on the big screen

Paul Daniel Ace Frehley (Spaceman) IS KISS 💋

were can you view that 1980 germany footage??

KiSS music is best. Silver and Black KISS best. We're gonna get this place, HOTTER THAN HELL!!

I think a theatrical movie will become. There WILL be a reunion of the original four members after the End of the road tour. And there will be new records as well. Kiss is far from done. I believe they will do Vegas. A concept album like the Elder is not out of question either. But the reunion is 100% sure. I believe they are - again - just starting !

The best tour was revenge

It was a funny time for kiss , some of dynasty was good, unmasked was pretty much shit apart from a couple of songs, the elder was just trashed, but I thought it was good, just like when motley crue did the album without vince, good record just not the right time or whatever, killers was a greatest hits, creatures was brilliant, as was lick it up, just a bit of funny time for them

Not bad! However, you never delved into the "Solo" album for Pete, that you had alluded to........

No commit.thanks you tube...😮

Some of these statements have been disproven. There were ALOT more Simmons solo albums sent out followed by Paul's, by design.

Would be much better than seeing Taylor all over everywhere. Enough is enough.

It sounds like the Abba movie made around the same time period.

When were you born? 1999

Alive II tour 77 In Japan

Not Kiss without the OG Peter & Ace.

Peter Criss at least had control of the band playing a real live concert. Sadly Kiss's concerts are tightly controlled affairs using click tracks, pre recorded vocals and a very rigid set list of songs. Maybe the bigger question is where was the lost Kiss Alive 3 albums that covers the early 80's era Kiss. Real fans have created it yet Kiss ignore this era as if it's poison. Thanks for your support as always 😣

Hmmm... Nubium huh. Not bad, not bad ! 😊

Love Gun Tour woukda been great to see on film. They didn't sound that great on Dynasty tour ... they sounded unreleased at best.

I remember the movie Detroit Rock City, which was total crap. You didn't actually see Kiss till the last part of the movie.

I was a teen when KISS ALIVE came out it was a career maker but soon after I realized there talent was average it was there theatrical shows and 🤡 make up that made them a novelty act 🎪

Kiss was supposed to do a movie, besides how they met a phantom of magic mountain amusement park. In fact, they even made a soundtrack to it, even though the movie was never made; Kiss; music from the elder. And, eventhough they may be too old to do live action acting performances they can still make that movie through animation like the motion picture, Heavy Metal. So, kiss fans, bug them into doing it. Have a nice day! 🤘

Anything that starts with Sailor Quift has most people scratching their heads, KISS and the woke Swift shill machine are extremely polar at these points in their individual careers. What Mr. Gil does not know is the proposed second KISS movie ( a version of ABBA: the movie) stayed in the KISS realm of possibilities until mid-1983. I met the producer/director for that potential second film in Canada in 1983.

Polly Gramm: sister of Foreigner lead singer Lou Gramm!

I would have gone back then. But really, it sounds like a crappy idea for a movie. I would love to see a full set up of a tour instead. From drafting the stage, to the equipment needed. The stress of it all being put together. Then rehearsals, right up to the show.

That wasn't not a hit. They might have pushed it to be a hit but that song is what killed the band. You can thank Mr Stanley for that. It didn't cross over like Beth did.

now I will say KISS MEETS THE PHANTOM OF THE PARK WAS HORRIBLE!!! watch that puppy stoned

I’m sure Gene & Paul couldn’t figure out how to expand their egos on film, hence no movie.