Being an Early Adopter SUCKS - Trying to Fix Burn-in on my LG CX

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I reviewed the LG OLED CX and LOVED IT but after daily driving for a few months I've already got burn in and keep running into a few other minor annoyances. So I'm gonna try to fix it!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Recap
1:40 Burn In
4:00 How Likely Is It?
5:00 Can We Do Anything?
6:05 Did it work?
7:20 Daily Use Issues
8:24 Service Remote
10:30 Results
11:50 Conclusion
14:20 Outro

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@Sphyxx 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine having "Activate windows" burned in on your screen XD

@GrayMatter70 2 жыл бұрын

Almost as bad as a license audit burned in to LMG's wallet!

@HazewinDog 2 жыл бұрын

I mean... you literally wouldn't notice because it is always there...

@Sphyxx 2 жыл бұрын

@@HazewinDog Shit that's actually true but if you do something else on it or activate Windows finally you'll still see the watermark XD

@john_hunter_ 2 жыл бұрын

Why doesn't he activate Windows?

@danielroberts8514 2 жыл бұрын

It pretty much is already tbh

@OldBuford 2 жыл бұрын

"being an early adopter SUCKS" *Star Citizen Backer PTSD kicks in*

@CheapBastard1988 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, the amount of spam here is insane.

@joesterling4299 2 жыл бұрын

@@CheapBastard1988 Take the time to report it as spam. If enough of us do it, maybe it will accomplish something.

@estudiordl 2 жыл бұрын

Why, why? 😭😭😭

@DeepfriedChips 2 жыл бұрын

Place your bets who do from lmg do you think hearted this

@koraxtu5989 2 жыл бұрын

Is it still PTSD if it's still happening?

@captainthunderbolt7541 2 жыл бұрын

If burn-in wasn't a problem, then LG wouldn't have to ship TVs with an option to help fix burn-in. If burn-in wasn't a problem, then LG would cover burn-in under warranty!

@bullseye6969 Жыл бұрын

They actually do cover it under warranty. Where i am from they give 3 years.

@captainthunderbolt7541 Жыл бұрын

@@bullseye6969 In some territories they may be legally required to.

@krismagix1 Жыл бұрын

@@bullseye6969, sadly not in my country, and now I have a 55" LG OLED B7P purchased at the beginning of 2019 *with a big burn-in area on the middle of the screen,* especially with the red pixels (in the middle of the screen, all red colors look much darker than they should, all yellow things look green since yellow is made up of red and green, and purple things look more blue since purple is made up of red and blue), plus the smaller burn-in areas left by channel logos and other static things around the screen 🤷🏻‍♂. It was partly my mistake for trusting that model despite being from 2017 (I thought this problem with OLEDs was the same for all TV models regardless of the year and that it wasn't so serious as some people said), but maybe I would have had the same bad luck with a 2019 model. 🤔

@bullseye6969 Жыл бұрын

@IAlwayswin 😂

@colinparks619 Жыл бұрын

@@krismagix1 b7 is oldd now

@andreprellwitz7655 2 жыл бұрын

Based on my experience with my B6, I'm convinced LG tracks the total burn time of each pixel and compensates individual brightness. Sounds crazy but I saw rapid onset of burn-in of shows' logos only years after my kids stopped watching the shows. I could be wrong but I'm not willing to spend another $3500 to find out.

@user-pv9pv4xf9c 2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow so the burn in thing is an actual issue then?

@arpadsimon 2 жыл бұрын

I had b7 65' and had terrible burn in, after 4 years of normal usage. Never LG again thanks. I spoke to the LG technican and he said he has not seen to much models older than 5 years without burn in. So LG just fools their customers unfornutaley. They offered me to change the oled panel for 2.000 eur. Haha. I bought Samsung qn95 instead.

@kylekondit9709 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-pv9pv4xf9c oh Jesus yes. On oled displays it's much more likley too happen and sooner.

@cybertones942 2 жыл бұрын

Only had burn in on my iPhone 6 where the keyboard was always on screen at about 20% opacity

@mikeoes1 2 жыл бұрын

@@cybertones942 Iphone 6 used lcd screen, impossible to have burn in. it was not OLED

@katherinemorton9126 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Linus actually hit puberty in the intro

@tucket2000 2 жыл бұрын

Sounded like a John Mulaney impression

@ManasChachra 2 жыл бұрын

Thats riley with some editing🤣

@Ati27 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the acid kicked in earlier....

@fetus2280 2 жыл бұрын

Hes getting there ..

@michael245 2 жыл бұрын

i don't like it i want his original voice back

@CarthagoMike 2 жыл бұрын

First he grew a beard, now his voice has deepened. Linus truly has matured like his channel did.

@jtestaccount2431 2 жыл бұрын

linus beard tips

@eagle7015 2 жыл бұрын

Linus man tips

@1976rickey 2 жыл бұрын

looks and sounds stopped up and sick to me, probably that f@#king covid

@volx882 2 жыл бұрын

Did I ask though

@blackhatson13 2 жыл бұрын

I want my lesbian anarchist cat girl linus back!

@NikolakiH Жыл бұрын

Every single one of his ‘endgame solutions’ videos ends up getting an upgrade the following year

@DrVagax Жыл бұрын

So will this with the upcoming QD-OLED TV's of LG, I am sure he will switch again

@abcbizarre 20 күн бұрын

thats pc gaming in a nutshell or gaming in general.

@darwangpie-whatlieshionsha4168 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being honest, love your integrity.

@samtherat6 2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure the activate Windows part won’t cause any burn in.

@thekrippledgoat4521 2 жыл бұрын

Elsa!?

@VoltzyBoi 2 жыл бұрын

@@thekrippledgoat4521 no, this is Patrick!

@ChrisLawlee 2 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@ravinderrs2552 2 жыл бұрын

crack that crap already

@ovrrtd223 2 жыл бұрын

@@thekrippledgoat4521 do you wanna build a snowman?

@lorincmate 2 жыл бұрын

FYI: The original remote can be programmed for long press 1-9 to switch to a specific HDMI.

@CxDOGxLEM 2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit thanks bro haha

@vip3re 2 жыл бұрын

🤯 Thank you for sharing.

@weegee_hates_the_blind 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got that set up on my lg tv. Only downside is that I keep forgetting which device is in which input.

@ratcomuk 2 жыл бұрын

Holly smoke didn't realise that, thanks

@hellterminator 2 жыл бұрын

That's a really nice trick. Is there a way to create a shortcut for live TV? It's only letting me create a shortcut for a specific channel, but I'd like to go back to the channel I was watching.

@48peon 2 жыл бұрын

I love and miss my local micro center. Favorite place to shop in real life. And the floor sales are incredibly knowledgeable.

@michaelsteel4566 2 жыл бұрын

My CX55 is just over a year old now. It gets a few hours of watching TV and various PlayStation games per day. So far I've had no issues with image retention, but am still nervous about it. Worth it for the spectacular image though. I've seen the pixel refresh automatically run once in that time, but didn't notice a difference before and after as there were no issues with the picture at that time. Vincent on the HDTV Test KZfaq channel (who properly geeks out on picture quality) suggests not turning it off at the power after use, as it does things to refresh the pixels each time you turn it off. I've noticed you often do hear it click off a few minutes after turning it off.

@johnwohlheter601 2 жыл бұрын

I love it when companies just tell the consumer that a product issue just is not an issue. Cough.. Cough.. Nintendo joycon drift.

@liambergstrom8183 2 жыл бұрын

FR-S fuel pump anyone?

@KiteAndKeyProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Dead pixels on Switches. My Lite CAME with a dead pixel.

@naraydaniels7832 2 жыл бұрын

Antenna gate anyone?

@averagerobert8211 2 жыл бұрын

They probably wanted you to reshoot Tokio drift

@Kxnii 2 жыл бұрын

iPad mini jelly scrolling too

@andrewt9204 2 жыл бұрын

"The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long." ~Scruffy, The Janitor

@Camelotsmoon 2 жыл бұрын

That is only considering if it has the same amount of fuel/same fuel source.

@enzonenation 2 жыл бұрын

@@Camelotsmoon not really. it's more about the length of the candle. presuming two candles of the same type burned at different intensities, the brighter one will get melted first

@madstones1 2 жыл бұрын

all those pixels will be lost in time like... Tears in rain.

@leonidas14775 2 жыл бұрын

Unless you blow one of them out

@Sweedster 2 жыл бұрын

*laughs in led lightbulbs*

@jawmedia7575 2 жыл бұрын

Nice dig at DMVs. Much appreciated anywhere I hear gold plated stuff like that.

@jonathaningram8157 2 жыл бұрын

I was using the cx as a monitor but was annoyed by few things (Vrr glitch, no sleep mode) so decided to use it as a second screen for gaming/movies only so that it's off most of the time and I'm glad I did that because at least there is no risks of burnin. By the way, it's very likely that they have an history for the service menu, so don't modify anything if you want to keep the warranty.

@johnsullivan5101 2 жыл бұрын

what are u using instead? I have a cheapo 43" TCL as my monitor. It's quite good considering I only paid $200 for it. Recently I got a new notebook that showed me my TCL screen really lacks saturation and color accuracy. I was going to get the 48" LG A1 but now I'm not so sure.

@MarkusArkus5 2 жыл бұрын

"Back to you Steve!" that gave me a good chuckle

@LonelySandwich 2 жыл бұрын

It feels weird hearing Linus with an adult voice

@ryensullivan7564 2 жыл бұрын

Why are you everywhere

@Kromiball 2 жыл бұрын

Sick Linus still feels weird. (from the video "SIXTEEN Cores for the Price of EIGHT!")

@sv009d 2 жыл бұрын

Stole my comment

@kinga1925 2 жыл бұрын

@@sv009d oh no looks like someone sad smh Edit: I meant to say bro I dont care if your comment was stolen if we are enjoying the first comment we see then your comment that supposedly got stolen doesnt matter. Why? because we saw this comment first, we can steal anybody's comment in youtube just let other people enjoy it

@clockworkengine 2 жыл бұрын

@@kinga1925 How many times have you used that on someone?

@mikechris2012g 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty new to your videos. I've seen about 3 so far. And man, this channel is awesome 👌🏾 I've had my 65" C9 for about a year now. I'll never use it as a monitor ever, but this video was ridiculously helpful. Your level of explanation and analysis is insightful too. Thanks

@mrdali67 Жыл бұрын

OLED's is just not good enough yet for stuff like office use. Text gets blurry, and the pixel refresher is beyond unacceptable for close viewing for longer times. You don't notice it as much when just viewing a movie or playing a game on a larger distance to the screen, but people might think they developed an eye disease when seeing the computer screen moving around every 5 seconds

@4sev807 2 жыл бұрын

to enjoy an OLED as a desktop monitor, I use it as a second monitor for gaming and movies only. I always leave it on a completely black screen and keep a cursor on "Peek at desktop" whenever I'm not around to avoid any possible window pop-ups.

@bwjclego 2 жыл бұрын

I chuckled along with Wendell when he said "Back to you Steve". That will never get old.

@hurgcat 2 жыл бұрын

"Thanks Steve!"

@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын

OLED burn in is one of human technological failures. Early adopters pay full price (before price drop 1-2 years later) to get a bad technology.

@spotsies 2 жыл бұрын

@@fynkozari9271 Any new technology will have hickups that won't be surfaced, until enough people use it for enough time. That's the downside of being an early adopter. It's another problem, when warranty doesn't cover something that it probably should.

@docchocobo 2 жыл бұрын

We were always told to run a CRT screen as dim as possible when we used our oscilloscopes back in the day. so I can relate to the whole burn in thing. It was common to find a scope with horizontal traces etched into them.

@Viscte 2 жыл бұрын

Make sure when using your OLED as a monitor you make the task bar auto hide, you use your web browser in full screen mode and get an extension for your chromium browser called scroll bars which allows you to hide them when browsing. In games, if you have the option make sure to hide your hud. Also it helps to set windows to high contrast dark mode. Set a screen saver to run after 30 seconds and if you must have a desktop background have it as a slide show or a moving one. As I've stated, Ive used my b7 for years as a monitor.

@TheRandomshite123 Жыл бұрын

Or just don't use an oled as a monitor

@Viscte Жыл бұрын

@@TheRandomshite123 I've had an oled for years as a monitor. It's fine

@TheRandomshite123 Жыл бұрын

@@Viscte yeah I'd rather not jump though hoops and lose functionality in order to have it not be useless within a year, like every phone I've ever had that was oled, all had youtube and notifications burnt in within a year

@Viscte Жыл бұрын

@@TheRandomshite123 I hide my bars and use my windows in Fullscreen mode and hide my game huds even when I'm not using OLED. My 77' OLED looks pretty damn good, much better than trash LED with washed out blacks. It must suck to not be able to afford nice things though.

@Slaraffus2750 Жыл бұрын

Seems like jumping through a lot of hoops.

@Soupie23 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had an OLED tv for about 2 and a half years, and I’ve had it on for at least a few hours every day and many days its on almost all day (I work at home), and I have not had any problems with burn-in.

@helloguy8934 2 жыл бұрын

What's your secret?

@Koozwad Жыл бұрын

@@helloguy8934 Low brightness mostly, and most likely.

@25RedButterflies 2 жыл бұрын

With almost everything on screen being so static, an OLED as a PC monitor is probably the fastest way to get Burn In versus other daily or so uses. I would sweat every time, I could never..

@kasakka 2 жыл бұрын

I have used my LG CX 48" as a desktop monitor for over a year now. Zero burn in. That's about 8h usage 5 days a week for work and any personal use on top of that. But I do run dark mode where available, auto hide the taskbar, use a black background, use a screensaver and run it at about 20-30 OLED light setting which is more than bright enough for me. These are all one time setup mitigations that you don't even think of after a while. I don't expect this display to last me 5-10 years but I expect by the time it has issues I can replace it with whatever is the latest and greatest and still have spent less than some of the higher end LCD monitors on the market today.

@chriswright8074 2 жыл бұрын

@@kasakka if you owned a Android phone you would know about oled same thing applies

@MrGamelover23 2 жыл бұрын

Someone should make mods for games to create non-static UIs that constantly move every 20 seconds or so.

@armdrk3233 2 жыл бұрын

@@kasakka how can you even see with 20-30 OLED light unless it’s in a pitch black room? I find the CX super dim unless it’s 70 OLED light..

@formulaic78 2 жыл бұрын

I have used an LG B9 for 2 years as a second screen, used for gaming and movies. Maybe 4 hours of use per day. No issues, apart from a vertical band of pixels that shimmer every now and then in the same place, but goes away after turning tv off.

@willtaylor9 2 жыл бұрын

Nah, the CRT screen burn in was just them trying to take a screenshot.

@beardsntools 2 жыл бұрын

lmao yeah they imprinted it :D

@CROWGUN 2 жыл бұрын

The LG CX already has its own dimming settings that are nice. I’ve slept with my TV on I’m not proud of it but it’s all right I’ve had it for a year zero burn in. I would get the OLED Once you experience once you do there’s no going back for me

@mkvb58king 2 жыл бұрын

I've had a CX55 for a year. I use the panel for 12+ hours a day, most of the time is in Windows and the rest of the time is gaming and movies. I have zero burn in, and I've taken all the precautions to ensure it. I have a black screen set as a screen saver, activating in 1 minute of non use. Screen turn off is set to 5 minutes. I use an all black wallpaper, and TranslucentTB to make the task bar see through and keep it hidden. OLED brightness is set to 30 or less for most tasks, and only up to 80 for gaming/movies.

@Crazyd_ 2 жыл бұрын

I've had Alienware laptop 13" R3 and only have it set for 15 minutes hibernate and a scroll of Steelers background/Black every 5 minutes and I don't have any burn in for 5 years now. Replacing laptop due to CPU age and low hard drive SSD space.

@jamesrobertson7740 Жыл бұрын

My only use of my 2017 55” LG OLED as a computer monitor has been for brief shared casting of my MacBook Pro’s screen onto the large display. I first became aware of those Lime Green static elements contaminating areas of the bottom of the screen (AND a large blob amidships that probable represents the ghost of my favorite cable news talking head) about 2 years ago. Several attempts at using LG’s built-in pixel refresher, and in the past few days a parade of many of the “burn-in-fixer” KZfaq videos have not helped, and to add to that, one must add concerns about the deleterious effects of even using those videos; i.e., is it one part accelerating the demise of the entire panel in exchange for 3 or 4 parts beneficial housecleaning? As I approach the threshold for driving my 5 year old multi-$K purchase to Goodwill, I wonder if there’s ANY reliable source for accurate information regarding just HOW much better things would be on a current LG OLED than they were back in 2017😢

@hotbx119 2 жыл бұрын

LG said: "Burn-in is not a problem" They didn't say burn-out was not a problem. - lol

@alexlabmonkey 2 жыл бұрын

@orti1283 2 жыл бұрын

Technically it's uneven degradation, so I guess they know they can get away with it

@michaelmonstar4276 2 жыл бұрын

Legal loopholes...

@armandopacheco-soto3592 2 жыл бұрын

LG" burn in isn't a problem" Consumers" why isn't it covered in any oled TV warranty then? LG:...

@Manydesign 2 жыл бұрын

It is covered

@Flatlined804 2 жыл бұрын

@@Manydesign No its not

@armandopacheco-soto3592 2 жыл бұрын

@@Manydesign not from lg direct, not Costco, not Amazon, nowhere

@jaclark45 2 жыл бұрын

@@armandopacheco-soto3592 I’m pretty sure when I purchased my TV from Costco it came with an extended warranty. If that warranty covers screen burn it I’d have to read the fine print.

@armandopacheco-soto3592 2 жыл бұрын

@@jaclark45 read directly from their websites or look it up online; they don't cover burn in.

@paultasker7788 Жыл бұрын

I've had a 48cx for 2 years downstairs and it's fine. But mostly TV and console use. I have a 55c9 upstairs as my PC monitor that's 3 and that's also fine. But it's not used probably for more than a few hours each week and I've got screen saver on 2 minutes. Start menu on auto hide and I view stuff in full screen. Like you I love the image quality. It's difficult to look at an LCD screen now!

@Omaricon 4 ай бұрын

I've seen this video before, and I'm watching it again. I bought an LG CX before Linus did. But to this day I still haven't experienced burn-in. It is my daily driver as a computer screen, and it is amazing. I believe the main issues here is that Linus didn't do the necessary prevention steps that are highly recommended for longevity. I mostly run my monitor at 50-75% where I enable HDR once in a while for movies, TV shows, and gaming.

@Tarodenaro 2 жыл бұрын

we're back to the 90's guys, we need screen saver again just like the CRT days.

@MegaManNeo 2 жыл бұрын

Flying Toasters are there to save the day!

@realredfox 2 жыл бұрын

OLED TVs have that, my Philips TV asks after like 12 hours runtime if it can start the cleaning procedure or it does it when in standby. And after 2 minutes of a static picture an actual screensaver kicks in. All my Smartphones since the Galaxy S1 had OLED screens, I don't get how people still think that this burn in or better said detoriation won't happen when displaying static images like OS elements. This is why I avoid the laptops with OLEDs, even though they look amazing.

@Luxalpa 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if my license for the trains screen saver that I bought almost 20 years ago still works! Or if it still exists even :P

@sammybli 2 жыл бұрын

I am just now coming to the realization of why it's called a "screen saver."

@Olivia-W 2 жыл бұрын

@@realredfox It's funny because none of my phones since the S1 have any burn in. Not the S1, not the S4, J3, S7, and now on the S10e. Y'all seem to blast crazy brightness, use always on display, and avoid dark modes like the plague... That old S1 has zero burnt pixels. Zero. I do not understand how to produce AMOLED burn in in 3 years on the Samsung AMOLEDs. Or maybe I do, because anytime I see someone's else phone it blinds me with 100% brigtness eye-searing face punch.

@TheSpiffyNeoStar 2 жыл бұрын

That "back to you Steve" was great

@volx882 2 жыл бұрын

Did I ask though

@baarum 2 жыл бұрын

Scrolled down to find this comment, not disappointed.

@iangabriel5536 2 жыл бұрын

I don't get it

@Anankin12 2 жыл бұрын

@@iangabriel5536 It's a Gamer's Nexus catchphras3

@RaskusPOL Жыл бұрын

Latley LTT videos have +20% more humor in openings and I like it. Keep it up. Nice

@ryanfulkman 2 жыл бұрын

3000 hours use on my cx48. Oled light set at 36. All safety measures in place. It's still solid so far.

@Jordanfiend361 2 жыл бұрын

Give it time

@MMMHOTCHEEZE 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jordanfiend361 8500 hours here, still perfectly fine. I don't even hide the windows task bar and I can't even see burn-in with the windows logo. If you set OLED Light low then the panel will last, period. Linus had his set way over 50 which is a big no-no, especially in applications where you expected static pixels. He should have known better tbh.

@ryanfulkman 2 жыл бұрын

@MMMHOTCHEEZE to be fair, Mr. Linus can afford to burn 1000 oled screens. I'm still happy with my cx48. And keep the oled light at 36 to preserve it. But it will be replaced soon with the new 42inch model when released.

@joacwoot 2 жыл бұрын

I love Wendel. He is the guy the experts go to when they are stuck.

@franzksava2987 2 жыл бұрын

True

@Designsecrets 2 жыл бұрын

Linus.......'it's some where inbetween' ...... no linus.......it's what Wendall tells you it is

@ThePppp89 2 жыл бұрын

@Puji Astuti This is so ridiculous I can't tell if it's actual bot spam or a troll pretending to be one.

@stifflery 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePppp89 hahahaha xD that's called ad within a comment.

@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын

This is why these things are TVs and not monitors. Realistically most people using these TVs as TVs are using them for mixed media content - movies, TV shows, streaming, video games. A few hour bursts. All day every day PC desktop use is a very different use case that I never understood how anyone would recommend an OLED TV for at this point in time, and really kind of skews everyone's impressions of burn in/retention. Your average user I described above isn't going to have burn in issues. At least not for a much longer time.

@jiehfeng 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. At first I was bummed out that I couldn't get a 48 inch version of the C1 but got a 55 inch instead so I couldn't have it on my PC desk, so I had it placed separately. It wasn't long till I realized that was a blessing in disguise. I still have my PC connected to it, as well as my consoles. But knowledge of burn in is extremely helpful in preventing it from happening. I only use the PC for it when I'm going to play a game or watch a movie, and if I somehow need to do other things using the TV, I would make sure I'm changing what's on the screen very often to ensure nothing bright stays anywhere. If it is inevitable and I have to be on a window for a long time, I would just turn the OLED pixel brightness all the way to 1 or 3 from 100 as I can still see clearly and quality is not a need for the task. For movies for which I also prefer subtitles always, I have turned down the opacity of them in VLC so the white is more greyish and transparent, so it isn't bright and much less prone to causing burn in. For consoles it's similar. When playing a game, if I want to take a quick break by pausing to check my phone for like 10 minutes or so, while on my phone I would switch through menus in the game every minute or so, or go to the home screen to make sure nothing stays on for long. If it's longer I would simply go to the settings and use the display off feature which I can turn on again by pressing any button. I don't even need to do all this since I at best would use the TV like 5-6 hours a day and 3-4 hours on average, some days I wouldn't at all. But knowing about burn in I still take precautions, and because of it I'm almost certain I won't experience it. Heck even while playing games like visual novels I would try to go to the home menu or open up other menus for a few seconds every now and again. It isn't annoying to me at all, I like taking care of it as it's very expensive.

@igors_lv 2 жыл бұрын

Also running it on 80 OLED brightness setting?! In dimly lit room I have 10-15 for regular stuff and 40 for HDR, its plenty bright enough.

@MissedMessages 2 жыл бұрын

@@igors_lv this is so true I have it on auto, but except for movie night with a good blu ray it's always at 20/40% maximum. At night even 10-20% or it hurts. Maybe 100% once in a while if I play in full day light on summer with the sun on the face lol. Have it from 2017 and no problems so far gaming on it even with the pc.

@babybirdhome 2 жыл бұрын

I can appreciate that, and certainly it’s “different strokes for different folks”, but I could never justify this for myself because I’m too OCD and need my displays to be as close to perfect as possible at all times. So for computer stuff, I’m sticking to LCD with high quality local dimming instead until micro-LED or something similar can take the place of LCD (honestly micro-LED will probably also have burn in issues because of their size). It’s why I bought the M1 iPad Pro 12.9” when it came out because I realized there’s a chance these devices will transition to OLED soon, and I’d like to be able to just keep using my 1600 nits HDR display as a 1600 nits HDR display without being afraid it’s going to look like rubbish in 6 months for doing so. I can live with a tiny bit of backlight bleed when there are bright spots on the screen because it’s almost never actually visible beyond the light bleed that eyeballs and glasses lenses already create in super high contrast images anyway. I can’t wait for a real groundbreaking new technology that gives us the best of both worlds at the same time. I do think the latest OLED screens are probably perfectly suited to TV and movies at this point, but you still have to accept a fairly limited lifespan if you want to actually be able to enjoy the specs you spent the money to buy. I mean if I was going to buy a 1000 nit HDR OLED screen and turn it down to 300 nits, I would just as soon save the money and buy a 300 nit OLED with a few replacements and have cash left over. I don’t mind spending money on good quality products, but I don’t consider something that has visible issues or visible degradation within a year to be acceptable unless it’s actually cheap, and the really desirable OLEDs are not cheap at all. That’s too rich for my blood.

@Voidward 2 жыл бұрын

I have 3300 hours on mine in 8 months. Over 12 hours a day. No burn in. Just use darkmode everywhere. Most apps have it available. Chrome has a mode that turns white pages dark also. I also use 30% brightness as there's no natural light hitting my TV. I have chrome windows open on it literally all day. Just don't be an idiot and keep full white windows at high brighness all day and it won't be a problem. I literally don't even think about it anymore.

@SeriesTube01 8 ай бұрын

I had a 55 inches FullHD OLED, I bought it in 2016 but the model was from 2014. I began noticing a slight burn-in in the subtitles section of the screen after about 5 years of use, 9000+ hours of activity. I mostly watched movies and series in it, some ocasional gaming and no TV at all. I gave it to my sister now, and in the last moments I used it, I remember it had 17000+ hours of activity (7 years of use) and the burn-in was only noticeable in a bright scene with no subtitles, I saw it once a week tops. Other than that, image was still crystal clear. Now I have a 65 inches C2 with all these protection features, the old one had no protection at all. So I expect this one to last much longer without burn-in issues. 😄😄😄

@Viscte 2 жыл бұрын

You can turn off the dimming in the service menu with that remote. Also I've had an LG b7 for 3-4 years as a monitor and haven't had any problems. I now have a 77' G1.

@robsch2319 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I keep my LG OLED as the secondary display, meant for gaming and content consumption with my IPS panel as normal PC functions.

@PeskyWabbit. 2 жыл бұрын

Yea oled isn't for "normal" people. It's for folks who watch high end content in dolby vision+dolby atmos. Burn is a non issue in movie consumption.

@infernaldaedra 2 жыл бұрын

If you play the same game often you'll get UI burn-in pretty quick.

@siliconinsect 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. For content consumption (this included) I'm still using a Pioneer Pro plasma.

@javianbrown8627 2 жыл бұрын

@@PeskyWabbit. It's for anyone who knows what they're getting and wants the things it specifically offers. "Not for normal folks is a gatekeeper" mindset

@VeyronBD 2 жыл бұрын

Its for people who can justify the bomb cost of buying a TV or monitor at huge cost knowing it will be guranteed e waste after a few years use.

@ChristianBrunschen 2 жыл бұрын

Remember the old saying: "Screen burn-in is a Terminal illness."

@JonathanLalrempuia 2 жыл бұрын

Punny

@UltimatePerfection 2 жыл бұрын

Not if you use teletype!

@bryanwashere5010 4 ай бұрын

Mine was one of the ones with heat problems. The front of the screen that everybody looks at, tends to cool-off much faster than the hidden interior side of the screen. This rapid temperature change on one side of the screen causes it to flex a tiny amount. But it's just enough to cause it to crack around the bottom frame. When I turn the TV off, as it's cooling down, you can hear the screen popping and cracking worse. I'm not used to such garbage quality products. I remember when a family would buy a TV and use it for 20 years.

@florianviavi7679 Жыл бұрын

We like you for being an Early Adopter - you make money of our views and we save money from you . Keep it up!

@cmh0223 2 жыл бұрын

Linus: “Eye searing…” Siri: “I’m not sure what you mean by that.”

@nestormoctezuma4695 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, this comments needs to be on top.

@uptospeedofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Hah

@TheEclipsedLock 2 жыл бұрын

Doctor: Deep voice linus doesn't exist, he can't hurt you video:

@jasminesmiths6402 2 жыл бұрын

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@arz1898 2 жыл бұрын

Sick linus: allow me to introduce myself...

@mikefrommn6173 2 жыл бұрын

LG CX owner with a year and a half of ownership and no sign of burn in! I run the pixel refresher pretty Often and I always keep the tv in either medium or maximum power saving mode so it’s not to bright and to avoid burn in! I love love love this tv!!!

@Da-iken 2 жыл бұрын

This will ruin your TV. The manual pixel refresher shortens the lifespan. Your OLED do it automaticly in standby

@cherrystarscollide 9 ай бұрын

I have been using an LGCX55 for 2 years now, everyday, with no issues what so ever. Best monitor I ever had. Gaming, movies, and browsing the web too, in my free time. I don't do any work on it, I have a separate computer/monitor for that.

@nacthenud 2 жыл бұрын

Note: the TV stores a log of when the service menu was accessed. Returning the settings to default will not avoid voiding your warranty.

@wholesome2792 2 жыл бұрын

That’s not what he was talking about, he was specifically talking about the firmware updates ruining themselves.

@nacthenud 2 жыл бұрын

@@wholesome2792 I'm not saying Linus said anything incorrect. Just a note of something he didn't mention that I think viewers should be aware of.

@wholesome2792 2 жыл бұрын

@@nacthenud okay I understand

@walkiacid9265 2 жыл бұрын

delete the log then

@RK-lq2ud 2 жыл бұрын

@@walkiacid9265 LG: where log?

@MasakoX 2 жыл бұрын

You guys use F1 games a lot of the time, maybe it would be cool if you had one of the Canadian F1 drivers do a video challenge with you to make the ultimate racing sim.

@rockyy09999 2 жыл бұрын

Omg i used to watch your what ifs so much

@Matteo-zd5ew 2 жыл бұрын

@Lance @Nicholas

@alfafabela4158 2 жыл бұрын

It would be cool if linus collab with LatifiGOAT to make an ultimate racing sim 😮

@Elijah-ed5xk 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea from a great guy

@enraversadi2903 2 жыл бұрын

What are you doing here? I literally just came from one of your videos. I thought i was still on your channel!

@Treblaine 11 ай бұрын

I think the difference is entirely because you can pull SUCH long hours in an office with SUCH bright elements which are just always always on and never changing. Even speedometers or health bars in a game are just not bright on in the same place for 8 hours every day, you're going to go into a menu or finish a race or have a loading screen and generally the trend is to "minimalist hud" these days anyway.

@Porphyrios1 2 жыл бұрын

If you're going to use an OLED as a PC monitor you need to kind of look at it as secondary monitor that is specifically only for content consumption to insure any longevity in the product. I've mine mounted on the wall behind my desk then use my old 1440p ultrawide mounted on a swivel arm to easily move it into place to use as a desktop monitor when not gaming, & out of the way when using the OLED.

@nickgarcia1292 2 жыл бұрын

This is my plan as I just hung an lg c1 yesterday.. how's your tv holding up?

@Porphyrios1 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickgarcia1292 Great! No issues.

@nickgarcia1292 2 жыл бұрын

@@Porphyrios1 cool, just mounted my lg gn27950 next to the tv today. Really don't want burn in after only 5 months like Linus. Hoping it lasts 2-3 years at least..

@sgs2008 2 жыл бұрын

This is what I do to. No burn in on my c9 yet. Had it for. 2.5 years

@zZiL341yRj736 Жыл бұрын

I don't get this video, they used an OLED TV as a monitor and now they complain about burn in?

@Grammostola 2 жыл бұрын

Using an OLED tv as a monitor is basically playing into the inherent weaknesses of OLED. Always thought this was a bad idea.

@t.c.b4722 2 жыл бұрын

No doubt. I wouldn't even buy an OLED TV. Just knowing you have to baby your screen like that and still have to worry about ruining it is too much for me.

@infernaldaedra 2 жыл бұрын

Even as a gamer I wouldn't buy their best tvs unless I had $5k to burn every few years

@Nordlicht05 2 жыл бұрын

I have a digital camera with oled.. ok pretty old Olympus. Burn in included... But only visible when the image is nearly dark but this thing do not run for hours like a monitor

@dereksbooks 2 жыл бұрын

I'm choosing Neo QLED instead for my new monitor.

@Starfals 2 жыл бұрын

Cool, but why everyone putting them into laptops then? Also many more monitors are coming with an OLED panel ;/

@Erssa-438 2 жыл бұрын

It comforts me knowing that even people like Linus have the same struggles working through monitor menus that I do.

@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын

They really go out of their way to be terrible.

@ulisesmora1282 2 жыл бұрын

no fr, i thought i was a dumbass

@echoo200 2 жыл бұрын

Haha. Monitor settings are always terrible no matter what what brand

@TheSkunkyMonk 2 жыл бұрын

Its like a VCR, you just turn it on and deal with it how it comes out the box, much less painful that dealing with the OSD

@benjamincoram7036 2 жыл бұрын

@NimzyFPS I have an Asus monitor, and while the menus are better than my Samsung second monitor, it's still pretty shit.

@cornpop1589 2 жыл бұрын

Linus I saw your Previous Videos on OLEDS being the best gaming Displays on the Market and I took your word for it and bought a LG 55" B9 OLED G sync Compatible With HDR Native 120HZ at 4k and paired it with a PC paired with a RTX 3080 Ti And It's AMAZING! I have been using it for a couple years so far With no burn in or any Screen problems so I guess I have just been lucky to this point.

@tma78 2 жыл бұрын

same here, PC with RTX 3080 Ti but the C1 55" 4K TV, PS5 and Nintendo switch on the other side

@hefic 2 жыл бұрын

Yayks. I game on CX55 and I love it. Best thing ever to happen to gaming (paired with RTX3080). Have it for one year now. I try not to have static image, I have auto hide for taskbar and sometimes I shift my browsers window a bit around, so the browser logo and bars are not on the same spot. Also I don't have brightness at max. I can only hope for the best. But once you go OLED you can never go anywhere else. If I get burn-in I will buy OLED again :)

@id104335409 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: you can get image retention on your eyes as well - just stare at something for a long time without moving and then look away.

@yogetrekt8243 2 жыл бұрын

or at anything bright

@AluminumHaste 2 жыл бұрын

I do that with closing my eyes and staring at the sun. The reddish glow gets progressively red, then when you open your eyes, everything has a strong blue tinge to it. Apparently it's caused by some colour receptors being overloaded and takes some time to come back.

@SpunkyGo0se 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I tried stating at the sun and now all I see is white

@glenwaldrop8166 2 жыл бұрын

@@yogetrekt8243 doesn't even have to be bright. Your eyes and brain auto adjust just like cameras today.

@Redwan777 2 жыл бұрын

It always happens to me. Sometimes I find myself daydreaming while staring at LED bulbs and when blink I see black dots shaped like the bulb

@storm14k 2 жыл бұрын

I can't deal with a product where I have to nurse it longevity. It'll drive me nuts constantly checking whether I'm causing damage and never enjoy using it. I'll barely use my projector for worrying about the bulb life and almost avoid my RC hobbies for worrying about puffing lipos lol.

@mkports 2 жыл бұрын

You probably also not have any pot plants or teflon coated pans at home ;) In seriousness, if you have a second lcd screen, you can just use the lcd for menial tasks like browsing and use the oled for games or movies. The CX I use has a black desktop, no icons and the task bar is hidden. Over 1.5 years in it is still in great condition. I also only turn up the brightness on rare occasions. On this note I also set up the tv to not receive too much interference with sunlight or reflections, this helps a lot. But I understand that not everyone has the leeway to plan it that way.

@polycrystallinecandy 2 жыл бұрын

I'd agree with you about using an OLED monitor, but worrying about projector life and lithium batteries? Dude, everything you use has a finite life. If you don't use it, it's just a waste. And often, you overestimate how fast things would degrade. It's better to use stuff normally, at least the first time around. Then if it dies too soon, you can replace it and recalibrate your usage pattern. Better than not enjoying anything ever.

@storm14k 2 жыл бұрын

@@mkports y'all think I'm joking. I do worry about wearing out my Teflon pans. This shit is debilitating. 😞

@storm14k 2 жыл бұрын

@@polycrystallinecandy man I'm not shittin you. I will get so obsessed over my phone and laptop battery health it's sometimes to even fun to use them.

@beyondwhatisknown 2 жыл бұрын

You need to get a cast iron pan and a bottle of flax oil and/or walnut oil. Just get that pan hot in a fire or a self cleaning oven, sand with steel wool, coat as thinly as possible with flax or walnut oil, and let set for a few days or let sit in a hot but not too hot oven for an hour until oil polymerization give a teflon like surface. You'll find it inexpensive and rewarding because you're making your own beautiful finish to cook on.

@Truzak Жыл бұрын

I've had a 2020 65" LG CX OLED since end of 2021. So less than 2¹/² years later, my set developed a thin black vertical line right of center. Started intermittently, but within a few days became a permanent fixture. Because I had purchased an insurance plan - due to concerns about burn-in, and the overall reliability of organic LEDs - I am getting a comparable replacement. Although I was offered another LG OLED, and considered a Samsung QD-OLED, I chose a Samsung neo Q-LED. My reasoning is I don't want to have to deal with OLED issues again. I've never owned a TV that failed in such a short period of time. Also, the vibrancy of the LG never matched the color of my 10-year-old Sharp Aquos. It's like the difference between flat paint and glossy. Hoping the Samsung doesn't disappoint.

@Bigtymer781 6 ай бұрын

I bought an LG C3 Oled 48-inch, almost 2 months ago. I use it as a daily PC monitor (6-8 hours a day). So far so good.

@oldtimer666 5 ай бұрын

Me too using a lg c3

@bobthecannibal1 2 жыл бұрын

..."Here's an example that is so extreme that the DMV stopped having to even turn the TV on anymore" Well played.

@arshan6760 2 жыл бұрын

Explain

@rolanie3727 2 жыл бұрын

@@arshan6760 the line at the dmv never moves, so the ticker never has to update

@ruekurei88 2 жыл бұрын

Might not live in the USA or drive a vehicle.

@mnpenner 2 жыл бұрын

@@ruekurei88 The funny part is that nor does Linus. It's called ICBC in BC.

@romanbukins6527 2 жыл бұрын

Efficiency 100

@theonlybuster 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely need more product follow ups, especially on positively reviewed products. They don't need to be this in depth, but at least quickly review the item and explain any differences in opinion over the timed duration.

@plamenski5244 2 жыл бұрын

Some useful info here, thanks Linus 👍 So far my 2.5 year old 65 inch C9 has been great and I haven't had to deal with any burn in/img retention. I game 70%-75% of the time on it and the rest is 4K blu-rays and streaming shows & KZfaq. I've only done the manual pixel refresher 2-3 times in total, I mainly try to avoid excessive brightness (vivid modes, ultra high brightness settings, etc) and it seems to have helped so far. Keep up the good work 🤘😎

@drunkhusband6257 2 жыл бұрын

Then how do you see anything? Even at 100% brightness the LG oleds aren't that bright. I see people online at like 50% brightness and you literally can see nothing in any dark scenes and everything is totally washed out.

@plamenski5244 2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 its plenty bright in my dark room. I even wear blue light protective glasses after a couple hours to protect my eyes from getting fatigued and itchy. I keep my OLED Light at around 75, my brightness at 50 and contrast at 78. Works really well for me plus I hate overly bright displays, they remind me of all the crappy lcds and leds I used to sell at Magnolia HT & Best Buy back in the day

@drunkhusband6257 2 жыл бұрын

@@plamenski5244 You must like looking at a cave then with brightness at 50. When I adjusted settings even with oled light at 100, since I didn't see any "brightness" setting that you are talking about, was still super dark.

@GamerWordDotNet 2 жыл бұрын

Linus isn't really providing useful info. He negligently trashed his TV that he received for free and is now pretending like this happens to everybody for a clickbait video. I'm embarrassed for him.

@drunkhusband6257 2 жыл бұрын

@@GamerWordDotNet If a TV can't last more than a year or two it's trash...period

@historiclp4577 Жыл бұрын

i have an LG Ultra wide , 29" Class 21:9 Full HD IPS LED monitor.I have been using it now since i bought it new in 2017, to watch TV, using my Roku Ultra...also my PC is hooked up to it.I watch TV every day before and after work

@zyad48 2 жыл бұрын

The "back to you, Steve" got me so good

@georgf9279 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and Linus response was really … bad.

@scarletspidernz 2 жыл бұрын

It would have been funnier if Linus had a wig on to emulate Steve's hair and said "Thanks Wendell". Then took it off. Play into it Linus.

@Wappie21 2 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly new to the channel, can someone explain?

@bestgirlyagoo800 2 жыл бұрын

@@Wappie21 it's referring to steve from gamers nexus and the intel panel. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdR-jZaZqNCtpqc.html

@Wappie21 2 жыл бұрын

@@bestgirlyagoo800 thanks!

@grandetaco4416 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the commercials for TVs back in 80s. They would boast about how much better the display was on a their new TV while you watched it on your crappy old TV.

@PinkAgaricus 2 жыл бұрын

lol Those ads sound like they belong on a display unit display/tv of that model in the store not played on national/international tv. Do they still do this though, which is counterintuitive?

@hunterlong1820 2 жыл бұрын

@@PinkAgaricus well of course they do lol

@specific_pseudonym 2 жыл бұрын

Heh, yeah, though while I probably wouldn't notice burn-in within 12 months as easily as Linus (or at least, I wouldn't care about it as much) I would expect a more expensive monitor to last as long or longer than my current LCDs, which have been chugging along just fine for the past 8-10 YEARS. Sounds like they could potentially end up being worse than said monitors after a fraction of that time.

@crusaderanimation6967 2 жыл бұрын

@@specific_pseudonym 8-10 ? Pathetic i just read your comment on 5:4 LG flatron from April 2006 and only issue is one column of green sub pixels is always turned on, but i don't care that much since it's just support for my also LG flatron (but another model 16:9) from 2009. To be honest and fair i don't even remember from where/who i got this 5:4 so i can't tell milage and 16:9 one is from my brother and idk how much he used it a day.

@specific_pseudonym 2 жыл бұрын

@@crusaderanimation6967 lol, I had a monitor from 2007 with the same issue, but got rid of it several years ago because I got a few 27" 1440p monitors for free :)

@maxmusterman6030 Жыл бұрын

My experience with my BX Oled after a year is good so far. I use it as a TV Monitor for office work and such, but I also game on it and watch Netflix and stuff on it, it's basically my TV in my room which I use for everything. Until now, no burn. My settings for Office Work are 0 Oled brightness in gaming mode, it's somehow brighter on the desktop than let's say Netflix, idk why but 0 is good enough. Gaming settings are 100 full blast Oled brightness with HDR if available in HDR gaming mode. For daily Netflix series I use the "dark room" picture setting, thats the last one in the menu. And for Movies, Netflix and so on where HDR is available, I use HDR in "expert bight room" mode. all in all, looks like this different content and settings are enough to keep burn in under control :)

@ImGeraldBurns 2 жыл бұрын

I still have two samsung plasma TVs in my house that are about 10-12yrs old with zero burn in. I bought a 65in LG C1 and have been running it on 100% brightness since the day it was released. No burn in yet thank god (I refuse to watch content with static images such as logos, and I refuse to fall asleep with the TV on) but if it happens it happens.. If the day comes I'll probably switch to mini LED and deal with the blooming. I think OLED looks great, but at times depending on the content I wish it was brighter. Good luck with your OLEDs peeps!

@showsropper 2 жыл бұрын

Linus: I am going to be careful about recommending a monitor going forward. Next episode: OMG! This is the best monitor and everyone should buy this!!

@aa-tx7th 2 жыл бұрын

whatever the next monitor to pay the bills is will be the next AmAZiNg TEcH. im not neccassarily knocking him for it, it's just how capitalism works. :( cause if our man is running his oleds enough to get burn out i can only guess how insane his light bills are lmao

@jkasturias 2 жыл бұрын

Felt that. I came away with the impression from those OLED videos that burn-in was not much of an issue anymore. A lot of less-savvy people will have felt that as well, and i am shocked to even think that until now, OLED is still going through first adopter hiccups as newer tech like microLED is emerging in the consumer space. Should’ve never recommended this for general consumer use w/o elaborating on the hassle AND the fact that LG OLED will last realistically only 1-2 yrs. Having to go through any of these hassles of managing burn-in is just an absolute deal-breaker, not everyone has the inclination or time, or even headspace to deal with that- im already anxious of a lot of stuff, i dont want to add my freaking monitor to the list of things I worry about. That OLED vid gets a retroactive dislike from me

@jackielinde7568 2 жыл бұрын

Did Linus just go through puberty? His voice sounds like it's finally dropped. Good for you, Linus.

@JOAOPENICHE 2 жыл бұрын

It's a Simpsons reference

@joshentertainment2 2 жыл бұрын

He is 30 it is expected

@fpcawolff 2 жыл бұрын

probably a new microphone equalization

@ArvindJShetty Жыл бұрын

I own a 2012 Panasonic plasma (ST50) and it has this Pixel Orbiter / Shifter, which is always turned ON. If you take a close look at the screen (2-3 feet) u can see that pixels are shifting and the image looks blurry. But if u sit far away from TV , the picture looks absolutely normal. So if you are using a monitor, pixel orbiter/shifter does not make sense cos as Wendel mentioned, images will not look sharp as the pixel keeps shifting. So I bought a BenQ 4K monitor which has no issue in working for longer hours. OLED TV makes a lot sense since you sit far from TV and Pixel shifting will not affect your "Experience" in anyway and can be worry free about the burn-in as well. We still use the Plasma in the living room and there is no match on the picture quality compared to modern LCD TVs like QLED, Mini LED, etc..

@fockinausty 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using 48CX since June 2021 and have not thought of using it as a PC monitor. But I play KZfaq videos a lot, like at least 12 hours/day. I’ve heard things before, and I am concerned about the product life too, but fortunately, so far I am satisfied with this great TV. XSX goes exceptionally well. I hope I can use it as long as possible. By the way, I’ve run the pixel refresher every once in a while, but I guess it’s not a good idea, according to Linus and his guest? That’s too bad.

@Starcraft2Sonic Жыл бұрын

12 hrs a day! Like a full time job bro :)

@MindBlowerWTF 4 ай бұрын

update?

@DaCarnival 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a C9 and it's so beautiful. But whenever I connect it to a computer (or anything with a HUD) I'm super vigilant about turning it off as soon as possible, even for bathroom breaks. It's a TV, to be TV'd on.

@HappySlappyFace 2 жыл бұрын

Auto screen off : 1min

@dredddomin3275 2 жыл бұрын

@@HappySlappyFace 😂how bad that thing hahah

@andresd270 2 жыл бұрын

Or put an screensaver

@voltaicfire1825 2 жыл бұрын

That paranoia is exactly why i try to avoid OLED displays, it's distracting and not at all worth it to me.

@randomdestructn 2 жыл бұрын

@@voltaicfire1825 Same. I don't want to worry about them, and I don't want to have to replace them soon. Large displays can last a very long time, so why create extra garbage for a little better performance? My 65" LCD TV is from ~2010, and I have monitors from the late 2000s still in use. All my displays get used as computer monitors or media centres, so they've all had extensive use with static content.

@nylohro4091 2 жыл бұрын

It's the problem with reviewing products. Right out the box, first impressions shit could be great. But covering longevity and durability becomes a problem because well, you don't have time for that.

@yukimurabrify 2 жыл бұрын

Let's also remember that LG is a constant sponsor on Linus channel. I think, even though he might be trying to avoid bias, he should also disclose this info as a disclaimer.

@pesty4592 2 жыл бұрын

@@yukimurabrify that’s literally the entire purpose of the video

@TheMxboy199 2 жыл бұрын

@@yukimurabrify gotta start doing the garand thumb disclaimer

@BenderdickCumbersnatch 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Now that Linus has highlighted it, I hope we finally see an end to the "certain type" of stubborn customers who insist OLED has zero risks and were willing to argue that to death online. I will not buy any OLED, ever. Waiting on microLED instead, which is tiny LEDs that serve the same purpose without the downsides.

@807D14M0ND5 2 жыл бұрын

@@BenderdickCumbersnatch I'm counting on the warranty laws of my country if anything ever goes wrong. They're pretty great!

@zackphy Жыл бұрын

Well you can set the number keys as shortcuts to HDMI inputs so you do have dedicated buttons for each input. I have the newer C1 65' model and they have the same remote so I know yours can do it as well.

@portogonzales7027 2 жыл бұрын

I own a LG oled55b6v for about 6 years now and it has issues with burn in for the last 2 years; it regularly seems someone smears ink on either half of the screen but the buildin pixel refresher every time solved it completely... The tv still has an exceptional image! Also am using the 48cx model as a computer monitor and still no burnin issues with it. 😎

@stuartlaw8377 Жыл бұрын

You work for the company?

@Sandermander 2 жыл бұрын

If you have issues with text looking wierd, its not the super resolution feature. It is the input tag switching back to "HDMI" icon by itself. To get the correct picture clarity you have to go to the Home screen of the TV, go to "edit" in the top right corner and switch the input type to "PC" with the pc icon. Then the picture will look normal. Its a common bug with this TV and is also required if you want proper Gsync and latency.

@omgwat 11 ай бұрын

I don't think this actually does anything. All it does is change the icon when you go to select inputs. How does this even work? Why would changing the icon to PC make it look different?

@BWTHeuSeD 10 ай бұрын

@@omgwatit's a quirk of the CX, setting the icon to a "PC" disables a lot of the postprocessing that hurts PC use.

@leking007 5 ай бұрын

@@BWTHeuSeDit is the other way around on my samsung tv, setting it to console fixes the image issues i have when it is in pc mode. Interesting

@PhilCobProductions 2 жыл бұрын

KZfaq's compression is absolutely murdering the dark images of the display in this video

@Runningmanuk420 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I stumbled across this I was looking at the lg c1 as a gaming TV and my inky worry is the burn in

@ATY676 2 жыл бұрын

Just upgraded my LG C7 to a Qn94a due to burn in. Netflix logo burned into the bottom right corner and my kid's favourite channel logo burned in to the top left. My fault due to prolonged static logos. Happy enough with the qn94a, but I would say my previous C7 still has the better image quality despite being 4 generations older.

@XionEternum 2 жыл бұрын

Should've got Steve to do a quick cameo for a sarcastic, "I'm busy exploding more Gigabyte power supplies. Go bother Linus."

@nextInsiders 2 жыл бұрын

A true lost opportunity

@Leoappeared 2 жыл бұрын

That was actually a reference to intels last presentation not to the Steve you think about

@mistere5857 2 жыл бұрын

@@Leoappeared you missed the joke within the joke.

@ronstewtsaw 2 жыл бұрын

@@mistere5857 Or joke within a joke within a joke. It gets confusing.

@TrueThanny 2 жыл бұрын

@@Leoappeared It's actually both.

@6gradosproducciones 2 жыл бұрын

Linus: I invested a quarter million dollars on a company some days later Linus: Being an early adopter sucks

@kristaps6241 2 жыл бұрын

@Puji Astuti what

@cameronpavelic500 Жыл бұрын

I have 6000 hours of use on my LG C9 that I got two years ago-I use it for all my pc games and movies-and I have zero burn in. Literally all this can be avoided if you just turn off the TV when you’re not actively using it. When I go take my dog for a walk, I turn off the tv. Bathroom? Turn off TV. Getting a drink? Turn off the TV. You get the point. Yes, it’s lame you can’t just leave it on like you would for most screens, but you’re saving yourself money by taking that extra care to get the most out of your purchase.

@craigf2137 Жыл бұрын

My c1 is coming soon. Switched the roku screensaver to black screen after 1 minute lol. I wonder if i can go shorter

@shadowbl4zer Жыл бұрын

@@craigf2137 after my experience, and having burns ins on my c9 I can proudly sy, half an hour is the sweet spot i f your brightness is not on 100%

@raptorhacker599 Жыл бұрын

OLED still has too short lifespan lol doesnt matter wtf you do, the pixels burn away as they are used so maximum life you can get with heavy use is a couple years.

@mikemcmike6427 Жыл бұрын

@@craigf2137 just got mine a week ago a C1 it’s great

@mikemcmike6427 Жыл бұрын

@@GloomDept lol like the sega genesis game lol?

@MrChancebozey Жыл бұрын

Here is the reality. 100% of OLED panels will burn in. It can be delayed with technical tricks but there is no stopping the eventuality of it. No one wants to hear this but that is reality. Great vids and content :)

@Wegetsignal 2 жыл бұрын

Bringing me back to the days when if I left the room, I'd switch my CRT off. Maybe paranoia- BUT I NEVER had visible burn in! And it was my only monitor for almost 9 years.

@PaulV. 2 жыл бұрын

They had a nice screen saver option for that back in the days :)

@GamerWordDotNet 2 жыл бұрын

OLEDs don't really get burn in, this is just clickbait for low-info tech wanna-bes.

@musicjewell9329 2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulV. Johhny castaway was the best screensaver

@DoubleMonoLR 2 жыл бұрын

@@GamerWordDotNet They "don't get burn-in" and yet you can see it for yourself in this video, and elsewhere. If you mean it's not technically 'burn-in' this is explained in the video anyway. Ironically I can't remember ever having a burn-in problem with any CRT I had, though I can remember seeing some pretty severe cases on some very old CRTs(generally monochrome) - though those tended to display the same thing for immense periods of time.

@TheRandomshite123 Жыл бұрын

@@GamerWordDotNet Then explain how the keyboard on all three of my old phones (that used amoled) have burnt in to the point of keys being visible on a white background

@gaudi1977 2 жыл бұрын

I got burn in and LG replaced the entire screen for me, and it was 6 months out of warranty. Was really impressed with their support.

@ross-carlson 2 жыл бұрын

My LG is burned to FUCK and they told me to fuck off. 3 months out of warranty. In the trash it went, NEVER again.

@zantesh 2 жыл бұрын

@@ross-carlson make sure you get the 5 year warranty with a reputable store. I got my c9 with a 5 year warranty and it got a central burn in patch after 1 year. The store (Curry's pc world) swapped the panel for a CX panel. So far it's been 1 more year and no problems. Buying a 48 c1 oled soon and it's tempting to get a 1 year warranty model for 939. But I'd rather just go back to Curry's for 999 and 5 years of assurance.

@bobbybuckley8702 2 жыл бұрын

@@zantesh did they give you a brand new cx or just the panel replacement? Also wait for the 42" c2 that just got announced if you plan on using it for pc use

@cmartin7052 2 жыл бұрын

@@ross-carlson Yikes, sorry to hear that. I haven't bought a TV in 7 yrs (I see a lot has changed). I'll just get a Samsung. People are paying thousands of dollars for this?

@gaudi1977 2 жыл бұрын

@@bobbybuckley8702 replaced the panel

@marcosyy87 2 жыл бұрын

Nice. i'm using a LG CX 55 as PC monitor for the last 6 months without any issues. But some care will be required like removing all static image such as windows taskbar (just enable auto-hide) and using browsers on full screen mode (F11)

@devincurrie4145 Жыл бұрын

Found this in the user manual for my old Samsung LED TV: Still image warning Avoid displaying still images (such as jpeg picture files) or still image elements (such as TV channel logos, panorama or 4:3 image format, stock or news bars at screen bottom etc.) on the screen. Constant displaying of still picture can cause ghosting of LED screen, which will affect image quality. To reduce risk of this effect, please follow below recommendations: • Avoid displaying the same TV channel for long periods. • Always try to display a full screen image. • Reducing brightness and contrast will help to avoid the appearance of after-images. • Use all TV features designed to reduce image retention and screen burn, refer to proper user manual section for details.

@jools993 2 жыл бұрын

The subtle verge pc build video nod, with the "that's right, we've got it!" Made me breathe heavily out my nose.

@88porpoise 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this Linus. It doesn't affect me, but I always feel good when someone in the media steps forward and and admits their mistakes and works to correct them.

@a9udn9u-vanced 10 ай бұрын

Everytime when I'm itchy about getting an OLED tv as my monitor, I come back to this video

@FF-KillThemAlll Жыл бұрын

i’ve had a CX for over a year now and use it for PS5 gaming and media consumption. i’ve used it as a pc monitor for about a week max but never had any issues with burn in

@b5a5m5 2 жыл бұрын

8:25 "That's right, We've got it" Flashback to verge computer build

@TaireTV 2 жыл бұрын

Was looking for this

@maxheadrom3088 2 жыл бұрын

Long story short: OLED is great for Home Theater.

@Ghost79263 2 жыл бұрын

No, content with black bars is likely to cause burn in, because the black bars dont wear the pixels but the movie does.

@toad3222 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ghost79263 so watch stuff with different aspects

@RCmaniac667 2 жыл бұрын

@@toad3222 no

@peplegal8253 2 жыл бұрын

@@toad3222 : What !? It seems you don't have the good habit of thinking before talking (typing).

@peplegal8253 2 жыл бұрын

And bad as monitor. But everybody nows that. The purpose of this video is to dismiss previous videos driving people to use OLED as PC monitor (stupidity, obviously).

@splatters2000 2 жыл бұрын

Had my CX for over a year as my main PC monitor with absolutely no issues. I use it about 8 hours a day. I do everything in windowed mode because I have the 55". I have a screensaver set for 5 minutes (the nice ribbons that wave across the black screen. I have it set to turn off the monitor after 2 hours of no activity. I use the logo compensation. I don't use pixel shift because it screws up the image. My desktop color is set to black. I use the pixel refresher 1-2 times a month.

@zZiL341yRj736 Жыл бұрын

It's a TV and these numbnuts decided to use it as a monitor then make a video complaining about burn in.

@PedroMoraisPortnoy Жыл бұрын

When you say you do everything in windowed mode, are you actually saying you just use part of the screen and the rest is just black/off? The part you use is not dimmer/less bright than the rest if you test with a solid color?

@joeyf504327 Жыл бұрын

I have a laptop with OLED and have zero burn in and I'm amazed. Same with my CX, no burn in.

@Stealther 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for Micro LED and the eventual "NanoLED" to come to maturity

@BritishBeachcomber 2 жыл бұрын

But without burn-in on CRT monitors we'd never have got screensavers like After Dark and flying toasters.

@Laerei 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite was 3D fish tank but I had to pirate it since I was a kid and I had no money to legally buy it.

@MadsterV 2 жыл бұрын

I had forgotten all about After Dark, thanks!

@Talia.777 2 жыл бұрын

True 🤣👍

@crotchy7667 2 жыл бұрын

I miss those screensavers. Especially the 3D ones. 3D windmill was great.

@eZwa306 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, Dancing Baby. How you're not missed!

@bsgtrekfan88 7 ай бұрын

Worked for a certain Big Box retailer...blue - anyway - every single time the LG rep came in with the new lineup I would always bring up burn in and every single time "its not an issue we took care of it" - yeah . . . thats why you cover it under warranty, and have built in software to help mitigate it and clear it up. Would NEVER use an OLED for my primary display on a PC.