Best Beat 'Em Up: TMNT Shredder's Revenge Vs Streets of Rage 4

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@MadPanicGaming Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, everyone! Also, a big thanks to all of my guests for this video. Be sure to check out their channels if you haven't already, and let us know your opinion on today's topic!

@roberthuff4763 7 ай бұрын

I wonder why EVERYONE didn’t mention the ability to use the old sprites as characters in SOR4. That literally alone sold me 1000%. And even that aside, that game is crazy amazing with the dlc! Survival mode omg!!!

@threeDeeBeginner 3 ай бұрын

It doesn't match with the rest of the graphics, maybe that's why it makes it anecdotic.

@AlbertoMonroy-lq2vw Ай бұрын

It seems most of these guys haven't really played sor 4.

@roberthuff4763 Ай бұрын

@@AlbertoMonroy-lq2vw yeah most definitely. That shix was so epic. Wanna replay it again, after going on a like 3 months bender of it like every night lol

@chocolocojames213 Жыл бұрын

Both are so good. Imagine if Dotemu make a new Golden Axe 😆😆😆

@Jeffmetal42 9 ай бұрын

That's really all that's missing at this point. Maybe Capcom making a new Final Fight also.

@esmooth919 7 ай бұрын

@@Jeffmetal42I would love it if Capcom made a new final fight, but they tried to bring that series back so many times, and they consistently screwed it up. Plus, almost every one of those characters has been integrated into Street Fighter anyway.

@xXCigarXx 7 ай бұрын

A new golden axe by these guys would be fire!

@Jeffmetal42 7 ай бұрын

@@xXCigarXx Sega briefly previewed a new Golden Axe game recently, it's not by them tho, least it doesn't look like it. There also is a new Shinobi in the works and that actually looks to be made by the same team as SoR4. Also a new SoR in the works, but it's 3D.

@xXCigarXx 7 ай бұрын

@@Jeffmetal42 yeah the 3d sor looks kinda meh but I'd be stoked on a new shinobi game.

@novarzero Жыл бұрын

Impossible to choose between streets of rage 4 and TMNT shredder’s revenge. Just happy that beat ‘em ups are getting some love as of late. Hopefully light gun games can make a comeback in the same way.

@trza49er 8 ай бұрын

Tough call. SOR4 is amazing, but Shredder’s Revenge is a love letter to my 10 year old heart. My 5 year old daughter and I play that game religiously, I never get tired of it. The DLC was amazeballs as well.

@tingkagol 7 ай бұрын

I love the resurgence of Beat Em Ups, but I seriously want a continuation to the Alien Vs Predator series. That game was the pinnacle of beatemups in my mind. Super slick, incredibly stylish, and very satisfying to play.

@MadPanicGaming 7 ай бұрын

Just played through that game with a friend last week, still holds up. If Capcom isn't doing anything with it, I cam only assume it's a licensing issue.

@timsohn7057 9 күн бұрын

AvP is one of the greatest Arcade beat em ups ever that never got a port. I gotta throw in Revenge of Death Adder in there too!

@heyretrogamers2403 Жыл бұрын

Street of Rage 4 is much much better .the gameplay is much much better , i have 760 hours of gameplay in Street of Rage 4 because of the addictive survival mode and i only have 27 hour in shredder's revenge, but I'm looking forward to playing the future DLC also with a Survival mode in shredder's revenge.

@BradleyWilliamHughes 9 ай бұрын

River City Girls 2 because of the 7 hour main story. Great beat‘em up from river city ransom.. released on 2033. Switch version is laggy though.

@MadPanicGaming 9 ай бұрын

I'm including it in an upcoming video highlighting my favorite Switch beat 'em ups. It is indeed a fantastic game.

@doomprojectgaming9259 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed both, but TMNT has more nostalgia for me and my friends. Great games and a win for gamers

@PriestHolmess Жыл бұрын

I love both 💪 TMNT gets the edge for me with the DLC coming out. I also find when I want to play with friends, or hot chics they choose TMNT. Super cool seeing this type of collaboration with other KZfaqrs 🤩

@nathandaniels4823 Жыл бұрын

I dunno man, I gotta disagree with you on the gameplay aspect. I think both games are easy to pick up and play. I’ve played both games with my kids, the younger of whom are not good with complex play mechanics, and they were able to play both games without issue. The difference is that SOR4 will go as deep as you want to take it. As my kids get better, they integrate more advanced play mechanics with SOR4. By contrast, they were bored of TMNT by the end of the first play through, because it had nothing left to offer. Our in-laws just visited with their kids, and playing both games yielded the same results. To each their own, I guess!

@GizmoMaltese 4 ай бұрын

I think people who don't take the time to learn the combos and just mash the punch button will prefer Shredder's Revenge. But people who invest a little time in doing the training and learning the combos will prefer SOR4.

@threeDeeBeginner 3 ай бұрын

SOR4 doesn't have dodges, and you can't run (present in SOR3) ,so no it's not as pick up and play. SORemake is the real SOR4 for me.

@venomtang Жыл бұрын

Are you busy/ lazy/ lower skill? =TMNT. Do you have the free time to learn and grind/ high skill/ motivated? = SOR4

@venomtang Жыл бұрын

Side note, I have Mania+ S rank in all stages of SOR4 switch, so maybe I'm biased

@TkyoSam Жыл бұрын

This video was badass

@borisdg Жыл бұрын

You should try "Double Dragon Gaiden - Rise of the Dragons"

@tingkagol 7 ай бұрын

when the girl said Bare Knuckle, she knew what was up.

@zeroyagami7753 11 ай бұрын

I love Shredder's Revenge and the TMNT a whole lot. I practically have a shrine of TMNT toys from NECA, Playmates, Super7, etc. That said, SoR just takes the cake for me. At this point (between the Switch and Xbox versions) I've put in at least 200 hours in the game and that's just mastering Axel and Shiva. I recently finished Mania+ with a bud and it was one of the most rewarding gaming experiences of my life. I think you nailed it when you said Shredder's Revenge is more arcadey and pick up and play. Definitely not a bad thing if that's what you're after but as a beatemup junkie I'm just searching for something I can really sink my teeth into. SoR4 is practically a fighting game with the juggles, wall bounce, and special cancelling.

@Jeffmetal42 9 ай бұрын

Yea, that's pretty much how I feel about SoR4 as well. Def has a fighting game vibe in the body of a Beat'em Up. TMNT is great as well, but SoR4 just has more meat on the bone gameplay wise.

@FireBomberBassist Жыл бұрын

I could play both games at any point and love it. Sometimes I will hop into random peoples games and play just cause.

@marcuseiland9737 15 күн бұрын

I wish they could combine the games into one. But definitely a Streets of Rage 4 fan. Loved TMNT

@countD8852 Жыл бұрын

meanwhile Double Dragon Neon and (looks like) the new one is off to the side happily eating dirt without a care in the world.

@SharifSourour Жыл бұрын

Make sure you go all the way Jimmy! :) awesome video!

@Awesmic1 7 ай бұрын

At this rate, I'd trust Dotemu and Guard Crush Games with a beat-em-up of SpyxFamily, of all franchises.

@Jeffmetal42 9 ай бұрын

As much as I love both of them, I'd probably give SoR4 the edge. I really like how much flexibility you have w juggling, doing combos and whatnot. Can't go wrong with either games tho, both are really well done love letters to the previous games in the series.

@GizmoMaltese 4 ай бұрын

Casuals will prefer Shredder's Revenge and its mindless button mashing. It's fun but gets tiring and without challenge boring.

@soapyillusions7 Жыл бұрын

I think what makes or breaks beat-em-ups is combos (even if it’s just different looking moves) and (possibly) blocking. It’s why I keep coming back to Super Double Dragon and Ninja Saviors. I could play those all day. I come back to Final Fight every now and then, but it’s more for nostalgia and not “being consistently engaged and crafting different combos”. SoR4 reinvented Streets of Rage and gave me combos. It gets my vote.

@aweirdredtoad3637 10 ай бұрын

How exactly did it reinvent SOR?

@soapyillusions7 10 ай бұрын

@@aweirdredtoad3637 Well, the combo routes feel much more varied. If you give even just one or two more inputs on your move list, you exponentially increase the combo variety of a game, which I think beat-em-ups lack in some regards.

@187Wretched 3 ай бұрын

With the added dlc I give the edge to Shredders Revenge. I love the new palettes, characters and survival mode. It’s probably the best TMNT game now

@MadPanicGaming 3 ай бұрын

100%

@chancemitchell4147 2 ай бұрын

I can agree that both games are comfortably in my top 10 beat em ups

@KennyJordana 10 күн бұрын

Both games are DOPE, so either one is a win-win situation 👊🏿

@GizmoMaltese 4 ай бұрын

I remember trying to play an old school button masher on my arcade with my nephew. At some point he said my fingers are tired. He got tired and bored of just mashing buttons. He had a point. That's why the genre is dead. SOR4 adds more depth so it makes it more challenging and fun. A game that's easy where you're just spaming the same buttons is for me boring and same with my nephews. But I guess to each his own.

@christopherjones5827 5 ай бұрын

I wish they would have done double dragon the company that prouduce these games.

@enriquepinero707 Жыл бұрын

I love both these games; as I think the best possible sequels we could get in their respective series. While it's hard to decide; I have to objectively say that SOR4 is the better game. I replay that game more overall and it's technicality in its fighting mechanics; are just a cut above ANY brat em up; even a bit more than Guardian Heroes (which was technically the best beat em up after Final Fight Arcade,until SOR4 came along). Yes I love beat em ups and there are SO MANY great ones; but objectively and technically, it's just true.

@jay_ds4800 7 ай бұрын

No debate streets of rage 4, if only for its replayability.

@warchief-e8273 25 күн бұрын

Now a decent river city ransom or bad dudes would be dope to

@GUILDAMESH 6 ай бұрын

I love the new art

@SKOTxFREE Ай бұрын

Both are great games but for me Streets of Rage 4 is the better game. I don’t know what it is but fighting in Sor4 is just so satisfying. Before they added the survival mode I would play and beat the game regularly and after they added survival mode for me the game has just endless replayability. As for your assessment of TMNT dude had the same experience as I did. Before tmnt cartoon and toys came out my dad took me to a 7-11 that had comics and he bought me Raphael #1 which was a one shot featuring Raphael and told the story of how he and Casey jones met and I was hooked. When the toon and toys came out I really didn’t like it as much because of the darker tone of the comics. Glad to see someone my age stream about gaming because we had a lot of the same shared experiences

@dr.gamonomics2393 13 күн бұрын

Streets of rage 4 is obviously the best till date.. It's combat system is the most unique and very very interesting to learn

@ReisSns 4 ай бұрын

Dotemu proved they can make modern beat n up, now how about Capcom gives them FInal Fight ? =)

@seekerrsa8275 Жыл бұрын

Without going into reasons why since I play and enjoy both, my desert island choice would be SOR4. Jim, have played Beats of Rage and TMNT Rescue Palooza?

@Getdown8319 6 ай бұрын

I can’t decide they are both amazing but I will tell u what river city girls 2 is incredible too.

@joshuaknox2724 26 күн бұрын

and both games had a great dlc expansion too both S class

@B33FY2011 7 ай бұрын

I have both games and love them both equally. I think Shredders revenge edges it though for it's multiplayer.

@Beirdo267 2 ай бұрын

Both are fantastic games. SoR4 I'd say it's more of a technical fighter and Turtles is just all out fun 😊

@ClaudioFirsoff 10 ай бұрын

For me, the problem in this pool is that are made by some guest people who didn't clear the game, or are Nintendo kids and doesnt know much about SoR... Well, both games are incredible, but for me SoR4 have much more replay value.

@chonwai Ай бұрын

Hoped they do more DLC for SOR4...new sprites for Roo and rhe other characters would be nice

@AraeIsrae 3 ай бұрын

Jitsu squad. End of discussion

@Heroofthesand Ай бұрын

Player SOR4 zillion times. TMNT only couple times.

@chrisr529 Жыл бұрын

Streets of rage 4 is not as hard as people think . Just gotta put some time in and try different approaches. I'm playing through on mania+ right now on single player and it's tuff but beatable and fun .

@scorpinok3006 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but you just contradicted yourself there...

@chrisr529 Жыл бұрын

@@scorpinok3006 not really , there are games no matter the time you put in they're still hard as nails this isn't one of those games

@scorpinok3006 Жыл бұрын

Clearly you did, but your ego is too big to admit it. I'll just leave it at that...

@chrisr529 Жыл бұрын

@@scorpinok3006 got me

@cmd2973 10 ай бұрын

Both games are high tier, and completely different from each other. It's difficult to pick especially when I've grown up with both. I have more nostalgia for TMNT because of the Arcade game when there would be a crowd of kids around the machine watching and waiting to play. I also had every title even the Gameboy games. The cowabunga collection is amazing too. I only had SOR2 growing up but SOF4 is definitely good. If I had to pick one I'd take TMNT.

@HeliusM112 7 ай бұрын

Visuals and Gameplay because of depth is for me SOR4. Soundtrack both are good. Ninja Turtles is pick up and play but the mass of enemies is not that unique as in SOR4 where you need to adapt your gameplan for each enemy group

@ArjanSnijder 3 ай бұрын

Both are very good. Streets of rage 4 takes the edge. Better mechanics,music a bit better but both have killer soundtracks. Okay music is a tie. Lenght definitely streets of rage 4,turtles shredders revenge is a bit to long. The same problem i had with turtles in time. Drags a bit. Wich you choose. The cream of the crop both. The artstyle both 👌

@esmooth919 7 ай бұрын

Both games are good... Damn good! But I always felt like streets of rage 4 felt better to me. Something about the way you can execute moves in that game, and juggle your enemies if you're good enough. That's not to discredit shredder's revenge, because that game has enough in common with turtles in time, as well as pools things from the console versions and updates everything accordingly... I really wish I didn't have to choose, because like I said, both games are really good; but I think streets of rage 4 is the better game

@Avenger_XYZ 11 ай бұрын

Streets of Rage by far! Spent only about 15 hours on tmnt. And over 80 on SoR4. Survival Mode is the best idea ever

@RetroWolf13 Жыл бұрын

Shredders revenge hands down

@Kuehnpiano 7 ай бұрын

Both baby ❤

@dexie135 2 ай бұрын

i just play both games, and i prefer TMNT over SOR4, for newcomer and casual player Tmnt more easier, i could finish multiple run without even knowing the button, while in SOR4 i hardly done my first run and need to go training room to enjoy the game. but still i agree SOR4 its better, polished and more advanced, i just hope sor4 implemen dash like tmnt, while in TMNT i hope there's training room (even tho i think people can finish it, without even need training)

@esmooth919 7 ай бұрын

What I love the most about the art style for Streets of rage 4 is that everything looks straight out of a comic book. Even down to the dot gradients that you see when you take a magnifying glass to almost every magazine in existence.

@danreyes736 6 ай бұрын

I bought both. I win.

@MrAllekzander Ай бұрын

For me, SoR4 wins, but its extremely close.

@TheOneAndOnlyAMFFMK 2 ай бұрын

I think sor4 is better cuz it a lot of options and game modes and the gameplay is smooth

@xatmo8467 Ай бұрын

Played both, but sor4 is MUCH better!!

@Snake-eyez97 10 ай бұрын

Growing up playing both titles. For me tmnt always has a place in my heart being a huge fan of the cartoons and comics

@thereasonableconsumer Ай бұрын

SOR 4 has more playable characters, better soundtrack and the gameplay is more technical. Shredders' revenge does have more nostalgic value and has been more commercialized over the years with the movies, cartoons, and action figures. SOR 4 is my choice for a gameplay franchise and replayability.

@ulisessolis9502 7 ай бұрын

Streets Of Rage 4 ♥️😃

@gardyjure118 7 ай бұрын

Streets of rage 4 wins not to take anything away from tmnt.

@aultra-magawhostandsagains7974 10 ай бұрын

As much as I love “Shredders Revenge”,it can’t touch “SOR4”. I love the DLC for both games,but “SOR4” has the edge for me just a little. I’ll be honest one of my complaints with TMNT is the pixelated look. This is a problem,because the PS5 hardware does nothing for it. “The Cowabunga Collection” makes more sense for current Gen. because of the power to run the pixels. The only thing “Shredders Revenge” does is have you pay more money for the same game with literally no difference at all! I like that they added current Gen anyway,but what’s worse with it are the controls. Having just bought the PS4 version,it is way better to play! The Cowabunga Collection responds better with the PS5 version,as they had that more in mind than PS4. “SOR4” has so much more going on,like currency,difficulty and so many unlockables. The combat is a lot strategic too,which I like. Both games however have my favorite characters being Shiva for SOR4,and Karai for “TMNT”. Another thing that ticks me off about Shredders Revenge was is original non physical release. I think when a game is released digitally,it should be released physically. Thankfully it came later on,but it made it look like to non digital players,like it was cheap. It’s not cheap at all,but what a baffling decision!🤷‍♂️ Its lucky it got good marketing,because had it not been physically released I would have dropped this like a hot potato. The year 2020 was a very strange year,and games weren’t being announced like normal,and sadly I heard of SOR4 later on by a KZfaq video. It does not disappoint at all,and I know the recent patch sucks,but it doesn’t ruin the game. Overall SOR4 wins🤗

@carlarodrigues7265 Жыл бұрын

Street of rage 4 is by far better because of the Gameplay , the gameplay in TMNT Shredder's Revenge its to simple it was a game made for kids

@MetalFacedGamer Ай бұрын

I'm going to watch this full video but before I do my opinion (that the vast majority of people don't care about) is SOR4 is there superior game. There are moments and shredders revenge that are more fun but I believe in totality $age 4 is better overall. Feelings?

@nostrollerslife 10 ай бұрын

Streets of rage 4 is the best beat em up period. I love this genre, I try to one cc these games all the time. Tmnt is really good but sor4 is just a deeper game with cleaner mechanics. When it comes to this genre I think it's the best one and that even compared to all the great classics. You should check out final vendetta, double dragon gaiden, and fight n rage for some other great more recent beat em ups

@mtctcbsso9890 Жыл бұрын

Street of Rage 4 is by far the best ,that's not even debatable.

@Itzstatiicx Жыл бұрын

Streets of Rage is fantastic, but I enjoy the 6 player online coop turtles offers. I think if SoR had 4 player online it would be the better game for sure

@halcyonways1476 7 ай бұрын

True since my KZfaq is 80% streets of rage 4

@GizmoMaltese 4 ай бұрын

I haven't played Shredder's Revenge. I'm just getting into SOR4. What really surprises me about SOR4 is how they made the beat 'em up genre better. It's not just a button masher like most beat 'em ups. You need skills and can do combos. You can keep getting better at SOR4. Who would think you could innovate such an old genre? I think people who don't take the time to learn the combos and just mash the punch button will prefer Shredder's Revenge. But people who invest a little time in doing the training and learning the combos will prefer SOR4.

@heyretrogamers2403 4 ай бұрын

@@GizmoMaltese 100% true, you are a wise man

@AdAce21 6 ай бұрын

SoR4 has a much deeper combat system, has way more playable characters, alternate movesets for each character, and more difficulty options. Shreeder's Revenge is "fine," but doesn't come close here. Both have good survival modes though

@pinkimo_ Жыл бұрын

For me a BTU is a game I can play casually with my brain turned off and the fun comes from the speed and movability of the character, allowing to react to what happens. So of course, I love Turtles in Time, SoR3 (and like Rushing Beat Ran and FF3) and of course, Shredder's Revenge. I like SoR2 but consider the 3rd one to be vastly better simply because of its gameplay. SoR2 is this kind of BTU which doesn't give you the weapons (starting by the movability) to react to what happen and requires you to anticipate, a way more frustrating gameplay for me, despite a very good game design and level design. I struggle to enjoy SoR4 because of one single thing: the fact you lose some health while performing most combos. Playing with Shiva looks fantastic, but you have to lose some health to use pretty much any combo (even some trailers of the charcater show that, with fantastic gameplay but health bar depleted in a few seconds), or play in a non casual way at all by trying hard to get very good and be sure to regain that health each time, but never being able to play without being super focused, which, to me, is extremely frustrating and not fun. Using a cheat to remove this stupid constraint would make a completely different game, juste flying everywhere with Shiva without any constraint, pure fun. For me this mechanic ruins the game.

@nathandaniels4823 Жыл бұрын

Losing health with SPECIAL moves has been a standard in beat-em-ups since at least SOR2, if not longer. However, the way SOR4 utilizes it is much better, since you can earn back health by damaging opponents without getting hit. If you don’t want to lose health, don’t use your special moves!

@pinkimo_ Жыл бұрын

@@nathandaniels4823 Losing health with special as always been a dumb idea. Most BTU had a limited set of moves and still they prevented us from using one of those few moves as much as we want. SoR3 way to implement special is way better, you can use it but can't spam it. And in the case of SoR4, it's far worse, because it's not a special move, it's a button you need for almost every combos. So you can't use those combos as much as you want without losing health, and you've to play in a specific way to use them while being sure to get your health back. It's a deal breaker for me, it makes painfull and frustrating what would be a fantastic and very fun gameplay (notably with Shiva) otherwise. Yes, if you accept to play in a non casual way and don't mind taking dozens of hours to get good enough to be able to naturally gain back that health in a non-binding way, you can probably enjoy that game quite a bit. But that's definitely not what I'm looking for in a BTU.

@retrogamedreamer8761 11 ай бұрын

TMNT

@LuisSantos-xj3rg Жыл бұрын

I love both but Street of Rage 4 is much better

@futureskeletons66669 Жыл бұрын

I used to work with Thomas McCloskey who did some of the art and animation in Shredder's Revenge. So it's good to see he made something of his ability. I like them both a lot, but Turtles shades it for me for its pace and speed of combat. SoR4 can seem a little slow and plodding by comparison. This is not to say I wont play SoR4, because I do. People take this shit a little too seriously. They're different games to me and suit different moods. Shredder's Revenge is a bit borked since April is so OP and fun to use. There is a better beater than both available - Fight n' Rage is more in depth and technical where you can pull of some crazy cancels and juggle enemies for what seems like an eternity.

@nathandaniels4823 Жыл бұрын

I have Fight n’ Rage but I just can’t get into it. Final Fight fans seem to like it though. I hate how it looks like you’re playing on a CRT with the contrast turned all the way up. I do know a lot of folks like it but I’d rather play SOR4

@metrorican Жыл бұрын

I lean more towards SoR4, but I absolutely hate the fact that using a continue in that game sends you back to the beginning of the stage. None of the previous SoR games did that (or most beat 'em ups from what I recall), yet it just felt like the developers wanted to add an extra layer of difficulty on top of SoR4 with this choice. I don't mind a challenging game, but I felt this was a little too much.

@nathandaniels4823 Жыл бұрын

At least you don’t run out of continues. Don’t forget it also gives you the option of assists if you die.

@tatianasantos2566 Жыл бұрын

TkyoSam dont know how to play Street of Rage 4 lol, the game is super easy , i beat the game with S rank in the maximum difficulty without losing a live.

@pjmlfc05 Жыл бұрын

SoR4 ftw. Shredders Revenge is overrated for me.

@Nihiliste- 6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but Streets of Rage 4 steamrolls the beat'em up genre as we knew it. It's that good.

@SaltyCitroen Ай бұрын

SoRR will always be better than SoR 4

@SaltyCitroen Ай бұрын

BTW DotEmu even took a stage from that fanmade game (walking on top of the train)

@jahbvbypost 2 ай бұрын

They need to put 4 player co-op on streets of rage online- Turtles fun it just glitch to damn much

@clarave 7 ай бұрын

Streets is better. Deeper combat system.

@Heroofthesand Ай бұрын

SOR4 ALL THE WAY, you turtles fanboys! And I love turtles, but SOR4 is so much better...

@jrwolf6 11 ай бұрын

Tmnt all the way man

@gammaphonic 3 күн бұрын

Streets of Rage 4 is kinda overrated imo.

@futureskeletons66669 Жыл бұрын

EVERYONE STOP AND PLAY GHOSTS N'GOBLINS RESURRECTION

@venomtang Жыл бұрын

Get better taste, that was a lazy cash grab. It looks like it uses SPINE to animate it like a puppet, because they were too cheap or lazy to use actual sprites. I'm a game dev so I can tell you it's marginally better than a ftp mobile game

@venomtang Жыл бұрын

or too lazy to make a fully 3d char

@aweirdredtoad3637 10 ай бұрын

@@venomtangI don't know about you, but as an artist Resurrection's presentation looks fluid. Like the background and foreground are fully animated, as well as the enemy movement. Just because you're a "game dev" doesn't mean you know whether or not a game is lazy cash grab, it just means you're biased. SOR4 changed the series' artstyle and when another game is changing a previous artstyle, you claim that they are lazy by not using spritework.

@venomtang 10 ай бұрын

@@aweirdredtoad3637 I do animation for games and film and have actually shipped games before, have you? if not, your opinion is below me. Spine is cheaper, and less effort. that's a simple fact.