BIKE CHECK: Charbon 29er (Chinese Carbon Frame)
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7 жыл бұрынI had this Chinese frame for one and a half years and it served me well. I can not speak for everyone as the quality control is very random and having the seller overseas means that warranty is sketchy at best. If you are new to cycling, go to a bike shop and get a bike you can afford. The rider makes the bike! if you are experienced and willing to take the gamble, it can turn out good like it did for me.
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@crabtrap 5 жыл бұрын
NOTE: ALL carbon frames are MADE in asia (mostly china). so this whole "chinese quality frame issue" is stupid. TREK,Specialized etc etc are ALL CHINESE CARBON. "unbranded frame" is the correct term.
@luckyshiet 5 жыл бұрын
yes my contry have called white brands on super market, super just pay product not a brand
@luckyshiet 5 жыл бұрын
nestle no ty
@aaron___6014 4 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree. As someone who has bought these 'chinese' frames and the 'made in asia' (focus, Cannondale, giant, specialized) frames there is indeed a difference in quality.
@deVence 3 жыл бұрын
The manufacturing is in china because it is cheaper in terms of manufacturing cost. But these mainland china companies don't have the same engineers, regulations and knowledge that these big brand bikes have. It's a tradeoff.
@crabtrap 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaron___6014 like anything, it depends on which factory it came from. I know for a fact the asian frame makers for trek and spec....make 'overruns' and tgen sell them unbranded for 75% less.
@stefanwagner5068 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really like your video. Do you have a list of the components that you have used to built up the bike? Best regards
@milerayala464 5 жыл бұрын
HOW YOU DID OR WHERE YOU BUY YOUR CHAIN PROTECTOR PART CENTER OF THE BICYCLE .... CENTRAL AXIS
@connorlink7574 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Chinese carbon cyclocross bike I built it off a mountain bike frame and can be converted from mountain to cyclocross
@Tomi1977London 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, did you try to install 148 boosted wheels in to none bosted frame? As from what I understund this is 142 frame?
@alicangul2603 5 жыл бұрын
"WORKSWELL"... Technically true xd
@ricardonyc12 4 жыл бұрын
How tall are you and what size frame did you use? Thanks in advance
@jonienglish3231 5 жыл бұрын
what make of seat post ? what make of handle bar?
@munchgaming4589 2 жыл бұрын
any updates on it now in 2021? does it still hold up? or it broke into thousand pieces?
@ianvoltaire6702 2 жыл бұрын
The frame you used for this build, was it the WorksWell WCB-M-162 frame? And what size frame did you get?
@owenclarke30 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there can you send link to this frame, what forks did you use
@joaovitorteixeira5114 6 жыл бұрын
Can you send a link about the frame and fsa SL-K Stem ??
@RichJ-nr1ho 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm 142mm thru-axle. The $329 frame I bought was 135mm QR, so this frame may be my next one in a few years...or more. Current frame (Savadeck 27.5 hardtail) is basically flawless, only issue is that the left dropout shrunk a bit, bike shop filed down the hanger and it's OK now. My advice would be if you are taking big jumps/drops, you may want to pass on an off-brand frame, but that applies to any component from anywhere in the world. BTW the listed weight for my frame was 2.6 lbs and the actual was 2.9 lbs, but hey for $329...
@sixpletchops 4 жыл бұрын
Hi man. Planning to get my 1st xc bike. I like Specialized Chisel Comp 2020 because of their lifetime warranty, brand and the R&D..But of course I need to pay more. Should I go for chisel or Chinese carbon frame? I plan to use the bike for daily and race
@sadokfennira3005 4 жыл бұрын
how did you brake your frame and what was the brand. sorry if being annoying. No one talks about broken Specialized frames :p
@telekev1 6 жыл бұрын
unbiased review... nice job
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+telekev1 Thanks!
@rkcacausto2409 5 жыл бұрын
@@CsupOfficial one question plz ... what size is it??
@MrChattio 3 жыл бұрын
You mention this Charbon frame was a replacement for one that failed. What brand was the other one? Was that maybe the reason for you being afraid the Charbon bike would fail? I just think many Chinese frames get a lot of dirt and I’ve seen other more mainstream brands braking apart and they don’t get the bad rep Chinese frames do.
@mwolfe38 5 жыл бұрын
Winning NICA with a Charbon is pretty amazing. Props.
@yamilvazquezpr 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, updates?
@cyrildelannoy9257 5 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the bike plz ??!
@Minoltalphafan 7 жыл бұрын
"you won't get the reliability of a brand name frame". Couples sentences later: "I broke my frame before the season started, so i decided to go with a Chinese carbon". What the what?
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+Minoltalphafan I broke a carbon frame in a crash before the season started, not a fault of the brand, carbon just doesn't stand against impact. I felt I could thrash that bike because there was r&d that went into the frame. If I went even a little sideways on technical trails on the charbon, it would just plain sketch me out. I would relegate the charbons to race day only bikes. Thanks!
@nepllerena8775 3 жыл бұрын
is this Thrust Brand name in Aliexpress? Im planning to buy also 27.5 medium in Matte.
@rodrigocarcedoserrano3028 4 жыл бұрын
which forks are those?
@AndreRouzo 7 жыл бұрын
Sick looking bike!
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@aaron___6014 4 жыл бұрын
How much did that build cost?
@robertmilner855 2 жыл бұрын
Where would I go to get one of these frames. Thanks
@chefluke 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bro. Thanks for the detailed review, I enjoyed it. I just ordered a frame from a company called Dengfu. Where did your frame come from. I mean what company?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Luke Macann Thanks Luke! Mine was made by Sobato, however I hear good things from Dengfu.
@jjgalletta66 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a BXT fully rigid 29er MTB training bike for $950 complete. It’s fucking flawless. Admittedly, I will never use it for the rough stuff…well…because it’s carbon…and…carbon breaks…easily. My main ride is a Specialized Tarmac SL4. The only difference between the two? $3000! (FYI…BXT makes ALL the mass-produced bikes for ALL the major brands except Giant.)
@danrichardson3765 6 жыл бұрын
CSUP! Which part of North California is this. I am taking a guess but the scrub oaks and abundance of water look like Roseville, Sacramento, Walnut Creek area.... Not SF but near there??????
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
East Bay near Berkeley. You were spot on!
@jettabing2252 6 жыл бұрын
great review! keep it up
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Jet Tabing Thanks!
@djmightymel 6 жыл бұрын
Was thinking about getting a 780 carbon handlebar from china off ebay for my trek top fuel 9.8 they are pretty inexpensive compared to a big brand. Thoughts ? Yeah or Nay
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Nay man. Super sketchy. They give gradually less shits the smaller the item is. Frames are ok, seat posts are meh, handlebars are really scary, and you might as well just ride on a pocket knife if you want a carbon saddle lmao. (I straight up splintered a saddle in my ass on a landing)
@KovalVKr 7 жыл бұрын
Hey. Can I put the front star on 36 teeth on this frame? Or only on 32? Or will it be grazed by the right pen on the frame?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+KovalVK Should be alright mate! Double check with the manufacturer for certain.
@samuelrichards3340 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any Chinese bike where you can buy bikes
@nacerlounis7412 6 жыл бұрын
Please sir, can you tell me where I find the production lines to this bike of carbon fiber ?!
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I found it under Sobato Bike Store, although the frame is an open mold so it can be found under other vendors.
@matthewzuniga111 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda late to the party here but i'm looking at swapping to one of these Charbon frames from a 2015 Camber custom build. I will only be using it for NICA racing in my last season so hopefully it will hold up. Would you suggest a PF/BB30 frame or a BSA threaded frame?
@CsupOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Hey bro the party is still goin. You will like the charbon if you are a lighter rider. Hands down get the BSA frame. I would avoid PF like the plague, literally the worst idea in bike industry history. With the BSA threaded you can run a bunch of different cranks and install everything yourself.
@matthewzuniga111 5 жыл бұрын
@@CsupOfficial Yo thanks Carter! Any suggestions on the gearing or seatpost selection? Im a little heavier and thinking of getting a really long seatpost to brace the frame.
@SergeRom47 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm looking to buy one just like this from a different retailer. Just wondering for my own information, whats the longest mm of travel you were able to run on this bike? 100, 120, 140?
@ThePsychonaut 5 жыл бұрын
Prob 120 max, anything higher then that and you'll have a steeper headtube angle which will be no good if your gonna ride off road, you also loose balance as your bb will rise if you go with more travel then what the frame was designed for and that would be 100mm most likely.
@mmb4063 5 жыл бұрын
100 max. Stumpjumper recommended 90m if i remember correctly
@philippeleblanc856 4 жыл бұрын
Good job dude!
@nebulakraken9399 6 жыл бұрын
I currently have a Trek 820, which if you're familiar with Treks you'll know is not a great bike, but I'm looking to upgrade at some point to a little bit of a better hardtail. Do you know how this compares to a Santa Cruz highball, let's say? I'm not an overly aggressive or adventurous (I don't do downhill or anything), so would this frame be an okay for my purpose?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Nebula Kraken The Highball is a much nicer frame. However, obviously going to be around 3x the price. If you are going to be doing light cross country riding, it is a great option.
@nebulakraken9399 6 жыл бұрын
+C sup Ok, I believe I've found two relatively good carbon hardtails ( Santa Cruz highball and the canyon sf cl 6.0) Do you what makes the highball 100$ more than the canyon? It appears to me that the canyon has better specs, but that is with my limited knowledge.
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Canyon is a direct to consumer bike company, while Santa Cruz sells out of bike shops. The difference is that Canyon does not need to sell to a middle man (bike shop) and can sell direct to the consumer. This means they have better margins and can get a better component spec for the same profit. This gives the Canyon the edge in parts, however, it also means there is little in terms of customer support (most bike shops will give you a look if you walk in with a direct to consumer bike). So if you know what you are doing, online bike companies are great. If you are new to the sport, go through a bike shop and get a proper test ride, fit, and support from guys who have been doing it longer. Hope this helps man! Either way, you will be getting a great ride!
@nebulakraken9399 6 жыл бұрын
+C sup thanks a lot!
@AlexLeon-ig2wm 7 жыл бұрын
nice frame man. can u send me the link to find on ebay please?
@martinthuesen9877 5 жыл бұрын
Hey C sup. What a great looking bike. I am contemplating building one myself with some of the same components that you used. What is lengh of your stem and handlebar? Size of the frame? And your size? Thank you:)
@stroudnick 6 жыл бұрын
No one asked ... What bike did you switch to? Would you go back to the Chinese carbon (if it had all that fancy Di2 and similar)? ... Or is the better question, Full Squish or Hardtail?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Nick Stroud I sold it because I got sponsored by Specialized and now ride a fully customized Epic. Tbh, ya I would go back to the Charbon. For the money, it is a fantastic bike. What I don't like is feeling I can't shred at 100% due to the drop outs being so underdeveloped. If they fix that...well...expect a new bike on the channel.
@paulkanarios202 7 жыл бұрын
I've been riding bmx for pretty much my whole life and have been mountain biking for around 3 years. I ride for the Detroit country day mountain biking team and have came third in 4 races. I have an aluminum trek super fly with eagle crank arms 1x10 as I've been getting really into the sport I would like to build my own bike and I want it to be a lightweight agressive single speed would you reccomend one of these frames? I know what I'm doing as much as assembly and the mechanics, I'm just trying to find the right frame
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+Paul Kanarios Paul, i'm not sure a "charbon" frame would be a best suite for your style of riding. Something with slidable dropouts or an eccentric bottom bracket would be better. Single speeds should be nuke proof, especially if you have a background in bmx. I would check Ebay for a good deal on used single speed frames that are purposely built for running "that one golden gear." I would put the charbon frames in the weight-weenie-race-day-only-shaved-legs-required bracket. I hope that helps. Please feel free to ask any other questions!
@chihirogustafson8557 7 жыл бұрын
If you are in a nica league I believe that single speeds are not allowed in races
@renroh6074 7 жыл бұрын
I have a very similar frame and have ridden extensively for the past year and has held up great also was only $350 for the frame
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+MTBHorner Fantastic Plastic! Thanks for the update!
@StraitClownin909 6 жыл бұрын
Where was your frame from?
@markleofilmarquita3802 4 жыл бұрын
Hey C sup how long is your stem?
@Evadingmoto 3 жыл бұрын
link to frame?
@levivv 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man just wondering when you sold it how much did you get for it?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Levi Vandervelde Sold the bike for 1800 USD. But the true value is what someone is willing to pay for it!
@levivv 6 жыл бұрын
Gotcha thats awesome. The stem on it is so sick. What are you doing this year now that high school is done? Gap year?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Levi Vandervelde Ya Levi exactly. Taking a gap year to work on some ideas I have had for a while...stay tuned.
@GeorgeC.bladesmith 6 жыл бұрын
Please can you make some other video about this bike ? Its amazing how you trust on chinese frame. I want buy some frame from chinese but i don´t trust it. Like for amazing bike and builder :)
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I can’t make any more videos on this bike as I no longer own it. It served me well but it is for a very specific type of rider. If you are a lighter weight rider like me and want to use it on xc trails, then it is great.
@Panda99693 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for your next episode ;)
@user-nb2bz6sh7e 5 жыл бұрын
Can you tell what the handle grip is?
@stevemann8037 5 жыл бұрын
They look like ESI
@bolan2002 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Is everything working fine till today?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t own the bike anymore but it was great for the year I raced it hard.
@lewisorange1 6 жыл бұрын
dose this have stealth dropper holes for internal routing
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I remember it could from the cable routing, but there is no holes. It is all internal.
@benwallis5145 6 жыл бұрын
What size forks are compatible for this frame? 1-1/8”?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Straight or tapered steerers will work
@mmb4063 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure about straight... upper diameter is smaller compared to lower diameter
@ther6bot473 5 жыл бұрын
I just broke my frame I cracks the back triangle in half
@GokkunGuru 2 жыл бұрын
Charbon frame looks awesome
@adlar2005 6 жыл бұрын
4:43 Did you break a name brand frame (assuming warranty expired or another reason), and thought to buy a chinese frame instead?
@crabtrap 5 жыл бұрын
all carbon frames are asian.
@eagle24ss 5 жыл бұрын
What size tire can the frame clear?
@mmb4063 5 жыл бұрын
Taylor Nash i ride the same frame and use a racing ralph 2.25. I would not use a bigger size in this frame
@euao3396 6 жыл бұрын
Where you bought that paitinting and how much
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure what youre asking...
@003qyz 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to the seller of the frame?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Александр Казанцев Their store name changes occasionally. If you search Sobato Bike Store or Carbon 29 Frame Thru Axle, it should pop up on ebay.
@edigarsoares 6 жыл бұрын
How did you put that protection against the crown?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
You mean my super high tech permanent un-lockout? Ya remote lockouts fail... so a piece of outer and cable create that.
@edigarsoares 6 жыл бұрын
C sup Right, thanks bro
@TopMejorMusic 5 жыл бұрын
It does not mean that. refers to the piece of metal that it has in the pods of the central axis does not scrape the frame. how did you get it
@euao3396 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the frame
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Ebay.com at Sobato Store
@THEBASSINDUSS 7 жыл бұрын
which model chinese frame is this? Thank you
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+THEBASSINDUSS it was the sobato T800 29 18.5 inch frame
@mmb4063 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a wcb-m-062 from workswell. On ebay it is advertized differently but it is the same
@E-bikeEnduro 6 жыл бұрын
do you still use this frame? how many km have you traveled? I always have a little fear of Chinese frames
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
No I sold it. I put about 1000 miles on it. Crashed it, raced it, sold it for more than I bought it. They are good. But there are horror stories out there. It’s up to you...
@E-bikeEnduro 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Chinese frame but I'm always very scared. I do not know whether to sell it. in the end all famous producers build in china. they are all Made in Taiwan
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I sold it for the same reason. I felt sketched out whenever the trails got rough and I realized it was holding me back from progressing my skills. So if you feel limited, buy an alloy frame with modern geometry and you will be much happier. Half a pound is not much and it will let you really shred it.
@E-bikeEnduro 6 жыл бұрын
C sup but all professionals use carbon frames
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
True. But not all carbon is created equal. Chinese carbon is almost all resin in a lot of cases instead of the actual fibers of "carbon" (plastic fibers). So really the difference is not that significant. I ride a 20lb alloy road bike with nice components and it is the best riding bike I have ever had. Carbon may look better (in some cases) but unless you are banging out 6.2 w/kg for 35 mins in the Tour or in a UCI World Cup Race where every single gram counts, it won't make any difference.
@iandelossantos1972 7 жыл бұрын
i wish my bike would be that gorgeous😅 nc bike sir.
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+YeomanNutria3 Thanks! The prettiest bike is the one that gets ridden the most!
@larmishing 6 жыл бұрын
i just now found your channel and you're great at making videos
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tanner, glad you found it!
@larmishing 6 жыл бұрын
C sup keep up the great videos! I’m currently riding a 2013 Diamondback Sortie One 29’r and I am wanting to get back on a hardtail. I’m looking to buy used and my budget is around $900. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I would say just look in your area for local listings and get a test ride on the bike you are going to get. Make sure all the components look to be in good condition and that it is the right size for you.
@larmishing 6 жыл бұрын
C sup ok thanks
@Montblanc1986 6 жыл бұрын
wanted to get one until I heard about the cracks lol
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
+Kazak Thranduil Ya it is a gamble for sure...
@kristiankamilo100 6 жыл бұрын
Can I use 3x7, 3x8, 3x9 groupset? Thanks
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
You could maybe use a band-clamp front derailleur. I would check with the manufacturer to be sure.
@mmb4063 5 жыл бұрын
You can. There is a cable hole for the front deraillieur. Clamp on type down pull
@enagiccambodiavityea2947 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the stem
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Type in, FSA Non-series -25 degree and it usually comes up. (Ebay, online bike sites, local bike shops)
@durianriders 4 жыл бұрын
Chinese carbon FTW!
@yy6094 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMB4isxjtNuZhWw.html
@victoriathegreencheekconur5477 3 жыл бұрын
I’m building a whole carbon hardtail on all Ali express parts
@sovietpigeon1346 3 жыл бұрын
Update?
@rafagawedzki5791 6 жыл бұрын
Have ypu paid any taxes when importing ?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on what country you are from but the import taxes were unsubstantial.
@barskir 7 жыл бұрын
Well to tell you the truth many of my friends constantly have their branded frames cracking(Specialized, Trek and Giant). However unlike Chinese frames they do get a replacement while warranty lasts.....But they do crack as well hh. Maybe my friends are just too fat hmmm
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, while the brand name carbon is better designed, it will still snap just as easily when crashed as a china carbon. Most of the extra money needed for the brand name buys R and D, warranty, and the "price of the brand."
@caymanr671wc8 6 жыл бұрын
attached to these nutz
@INTEL965GAMES 6 жыл бұрын
ALUMINIUM 7005 OR CHINESE CARBON FRAME?
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Hard to say. If you ride fairly light xc trails then the charbon would be better. But you also are taking a risk, up to you.
@alejasiela 7 жыл бұрын
What BB you have?
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+Arturs Vecvagars it was the BSA (English thread), much easier maintenance and creak free!
@nishikhandle 5 жыл бұрын
Can you buy this bike online on AliExpress? If yes please share the link
@albertobotero7595 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Costello, looks like your frame. I had a problem with the bottom a striped bracket thread, I contact aliexpress I send back the frame, they reimbursed me for shipping and send me a new frame. I am very happy with my frame.
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+Alberto Botero They do have surprisingly great customer service!
@HarshSharma-qk4uq 6 жыл бұрын
I am from can I buy this....
@CsupOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Can you rephrase question?
@manmachinelifestyle3746 6 жыл бұрын
whats the actual weight?
@nip2121 6 жыл бұрын
Mac Long 21.5lbs
@StraitClownin909 6 жыл бұрын
Damn that's nice!
@sadokfennira3005 4 жыл бұрын
or maybe the brand stuck some decals on it ;)
@samuelrichards3340 3 жыл бұрын
Brands
@mlh138 7 жыл бұрын
what is this bikes size ?
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+melih ö it is a large 18.5, I'm 5,11
@mlh138 7 жыл бұрын
are you 155 cm ?
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
180 cm
@mlh138 7 жыл бұрын
okay we are same :) www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/149.html
@giuliocabunoc7695 6 жыл бұрын
C sup Can a medium frame be good enough for me? cause I am also 5'11,because our local bike shop doesn't have a large size frame for the bike I want
@TheAdityaNaik 6 жыл бұрын
Price and link
@KovalVKr 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. Which of these frames will you advise me? 1. www.workswellbikes.com/XC/wcb-m-162.html 2. aliexpress.ru/item/32907997171.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.7e202e0e4xXZur www.tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=713 3. www.pro-mance.com/product-390-504-119949.html
@30redpillsaday71 Жыл бұрын
#slamthatstem
@attilagal6672 4 жыл бұрын
I would rather get a Trek xcaliber frame set. As I imagine this carbon frame must be too flexible for a comfortable ride.
@hanyaoyap1826 7 жыл бұрын
China also has good quality carbon!!!
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Almost all carbon for brand bikes is made in Asia and China.
@Mazeboxx 4 жыл бұрын
C sup China is not part of Asia then?!
@khewitthome1436 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you but when most brand names are made in China your argument is a tad thin no. Sent on my American iPhone...
@avoycendeether8869 5 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't get attached to material things" +1
@magzire 3 жыл бұрын
works well but not works great haha
@LeoInterHyenaem 5 жыл бұрын
A crack in the frame... That's about as disconcerting as it can get.
@Mazeboxx 4 жыл бұрын
Leo_inter_Hyaenaem my fork broke on my Trek riding down the Furka pass...so much for quality control on „branded“ bikes...
@LeoInterHyenaem 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mazeboxx It can happen. But at least Trek will cover you with a proper warranty, including a crash replacement policy. Chinese pseudo-companies won't.
@Mazeboxx 4 жыл бұрын
Leo_inter_Hyaenaem That will only apply if you are either the original owner of the frame or a second hand frame no older than 3 years. After that - that’s it. Besides, what good is a warranty and a ‚cash back‘ policy if my face hits the road going 85 km/h??? Please! You know how long I battled with Trek go get ANYone just taking to me. I’ve had similar cases with MTBs, had broken frames and you know what they use to cover themselves from warranties? Negligence...
@proraptor4146 6 жыл бұрын
Carbon isnt known for flexing.....its known for being stiff.
@letour32rr 6 жыл бұрын
Proraptor it all depends on the design and layup. Just look at the Trek Domane for example. It has a pivot at the seat tube/top tube joint that allows for the seat tube to flex and absorb shock. The older Cannondale Scalpel mountain bike didn’t have a rear suspension pivot because it relied on the flex in the carbon chainstays to handle that task.
@proraptor4146 6 жыл бұрын
letour32rr those are acceptions to the rule
@letour32rr 6 жыл бұрын
Proraptor how many years have you worked in the bicycle industry?
@proraptor4146 6 жыл бұрын
A long time actually
@letour32rr 6 жыл бұрын
Proraptor as an employee or consumer? If you really don’t know, I’ll throw some model names at you of those that are designed to flex in one direction (vertically) to offer a smoother ride to a rider. I’ll keep it short so you can look them up, but could list all night: - Specialized Roubaix - Specialized Diverge - Trek Domane - Trek ProCaliber - Any Softride model - Cannondale Scalpel (mid 2000’s) - just about any modern Endurance Road/Gravel bike is designed to have some degree of vertical compliance while retaining torsional stiffness for pedaling efficiency, with Carbon models allowing more flex. If you truly work in the bicycle industry, you should know this.
@AlexLeon-ig2wm 7 жыл бұрын
nice frame man. can u send me the link to find on ebay please?
@AlexLeon-ig2wm 7 жыл бұрын
thanks.. what about the wheels?
@CsupOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+Alejandro Leon Easton EA70, about a $400 wheel set, I think raceface owns them now which means you can find the old ones for cheap.
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