Blackfyre Family Tree: Extinct Targaryen branch (Game of Thrones)

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There’s a lot of people who believe that characters in the story are descendants of this family through female line, and usually that wouldnt really matter, but House Blacfyre happens to be a branch family of House Targaryen

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@fanelemabaso2514
@fanelemabaso2514 4 жыл бұрын
Wait wait, Damon was as much as targ as anyone else. Sure his parents werent married but he was 100% Targ blood
@JcBravo8
@JcBravo8 3 жыл бұрын
But he founded a new house so he became the first of that line.
@JcBravo8
@JcBravo8 2 жыл бұрын
@Nate T Everyone is someone’s uncle-brother when you get down to it :p
@Mo-sk7xo
@Mo-sk7xo 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that's the Thing people seem to forget....They treat the Blackfyres like they're just some random usurpers like Nah they Wer Full-blooded Targaryens No Less than the Blacks during the Dance of the Dragons....Its literally the Same war...A Sibling tryna Take the Throne
@dblocknyc
@dblocknyc Жыл бұрын
theyre parents not being Married makes a BIG difference lol
@Mo-sk7xo
@Mo-sk7xo Жыл бұрын
@@dblocknyc no it Dosnt because they were legitimized before Aegon Died
@ooglyboogly6656
@ooglyboogly6656 5 жыл бұрын
I wish the GOT spin-off would have something to do with the Blackfyres. There are so many good characters to go within the stretch of this storyline.
@MM-xm5vx
@MM-xm5vx 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe how they built the Golden company, and interacted with nobles from essos.
@gfilmer7150
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine The Battle of The Red Grass Field but with the budget and cinematography of The Battle of The Bastards.
@evanmack8527
@evanmack8527 3 жыл бұрын
The dance of the dragons next year
@jay-t1030
@jay-t1030 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Aegon IV was inspired by Henry 8th because his multiply mistresses and the way he died.
@aquequez9449
@aquequez9449 4 жыл бұрын
Jai T he was
@ranamekki7040
@ranamekki7040 3 жыл бұрын
Or George IV and Louis IXV
@adomoadeus
@adomoadeus 3 жыл бұрын
@@ranamekki7040 Do you mean Louis XIV, the 14th? IXV is not a valid roman numeral.
@heccra
@heccra 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say Maegor was the one who was inspired my Henry VIII the most. Unless my memory is wrong (it could be), Henry didn’t have THAT many bastards. At least not that many for how promiscuous he was.
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 3 жыл бұрын
@@heccra I agree considering Henry VIII war on removing the Pope's influence from England
@cb-7422
@cb-7422 7 жыл бұрын
Baelor had to have been Daemon's father. It's just the type of irony George would be into. Even more so if Daeron was Aemon's son. Daemon would've been the 'rightful' king all along, a legitimate Targaryen
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 7 жыл бұрын
Sir you are right "Jamie" thought to himself if Baelor just close his eyes did his "duty" there wound'nt been 5 Blackfyre Rebellions, but everyone is miss a one important part here. After Baelor's death Daena Targaryen should been CROWN Queen of the whole land because she next in line for throne. But it jump to her Uncle instead and after the Uncle it went to his son Aegon IV. (that was big mess) . IF Daena Targaryen was Queen her son with Aegon IV would have next in line she could have made her son "Deamon Blackfyre" legitimized or marry Aegeon IV as her consort. (Always people forget that Daena Targaryen was next in line for Throne. Not her Uncle)
@davidking6242
@davidking6242 7 жыл бұрын
Sophia Wilson no. according to make premigenture viserys was the next in line since he was the next eldest male of house targaryen. this is according to the andal customs the targaryens followed. had they been dornishmen however then daena would be queen but not anywhere else
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 Daena was actually married to Baelor despite no consummation. As his widow she would have zero claim. Her bastard son had even less rights. Viserys II was next in line as the next living male-after the disaster of his mom's rule a Great Council decided that males come above females in all manner of succession- brothers over sisters, sons over daughters, grandsons over daughters etc Rheynera herself was only made heir due to Viserys I insisting on it, and her being the only royal child at the time. There were other Targaryen like her uncle Daemon the Rogue Prince but she was given the heir title.
@CoRLex-jh5vx
@CoRLex-jh5vx 2 жыл бұрын
​@@SantomPh Yes, Daena was married to Baelor but she was also Aegon III's next eldest child, after the males died. If she hadn't had an uncle, it would've gone to her, and she and her sisters were actually considered but since they had been locked away, no one knew them to be able to support them. Also, the council of 101AC was before the Dance. Rhaenyra compounded the issue, but as far as I know, no precedent was actually set against female inheritence after her. Passing over Daena and her sisters was the next precedent.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
Daemon was Aegon IV's son, not Baelor's!
@CoRLex-jh5vx
@CoRLex-jh5vx 6 жыл бұрын
Oh so aegon the unworthy was like Robert except never cool? damn what a shitty king, at least Robert had the respect of his people for earning the throne.
@aidanwoodford8195
@aidanwoodford8195 6 жыл бұрын
this video gets extremely confusing in the middle because 90% of the charachters are named are named aegon or something confusingly close like aemon or aeron which are pretty close to daemon and daeron bloody hell so much inbreeding too
@guillmanuel6312
@guillmanuel6312 6 жыл бұрын
Aidan Woodford well they did wanna keep the bloodline pure
@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069
@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069 5 жыл бұрын
You just need to invest in yourself in learning each of the Targaryen Kings names. The only important females is Rheanyra. Aegon the 3rd is the only one with bastards.
@user-yj9qq2zd9i
@user-yj9qq2zd9i 5 жыл бұрын
@@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069 You mean Aegon IV is only one with bastards.
@user-yj9qq2zd9i
@user-yj9qq2zd9i 5 жыл бұрын
And now when you said it, I am little confused too. Aegon IV is only Targaryen king that had bastards actually, but his bastards were enough to fill the holes in category ,,Targaryen bastards":)
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
You only need to follow the family trees and think for a few minutes.
@KevinBorgOfDeath
@KevinBorgOfDeath 4 жыл бұрын
I admit it - I'm a Blackfyre loyalist.
@csar9643
@csar9643 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your loyalty
@MM-xm5vx
@MM-xm5vx 4 жыл бұрын
I stand with house Targaryen.
@cars81434
@cars81434 3 жыл бұрын
Exquisite Elephant . Weren’t you bought by Queen Cersei though?
@starmanjoestar8798
@starmanjoestar8798 3 жыл бұрын
Filthy traitor
@CAL-td4km
@CAL-td4km 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@whycreate
@whycreate 7 жыл бұрын
No, was not trying to hypnotize anyone.
@MrTeaust
@MrTeaust 7 жыл бұрын
i am not sure about that ^^
@lakenash7947
@lakenash7947 7 жыл бұрын
whycreate That's what a hypnotizer would say
@akastenas
@akastenas 5 жыл бұрын
My dream is that Varys and Young Griff reveal themselves to be Balckfyre and enter Westeros with a big ass golden company army. That would be awesome. I want Balckfyre line to rise again.
@thesynergyofblood
@thesynergyofblood Жыл бұрын
With elephants. Lol
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
It would've been super cool if Young Griff reveals himself to be a Blackfyre and confirms the old rumors of Daeron II really being the bastard son of Aemon the Dragonknight during his attack on Storm's End in TWOW!
@juana_marie
@juana_marie Жыл бұрын
I'd love that plot twist!!!! But just think what will happen when Daenerys comes blazing in from the east with 3 whole ass fully grown (hopefully they'll be fully grown when she comes to Westeros), a dothraki hoarde and the unsullied 💀💀
@ajacevedo3
@ajacevedo3 3 жыл бұрын
Daemon Blackfyre and his twin sons Aegon and Aemon both died in the Redgrass Field - both of them were twelve. Mans had his twelve year old sons join him in battle.
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's pretty normal in Westeros. Boys and young men getting brought into things way too young. Like Robb Stark(rip) having to be Lord of Winterfell and then elected KING IN THE NORTH at like 15.
@michaelg4490
@michaelg4490 5 жыл бұрын
Aegon VI or young griff is speculated to actually be a blackfyre which is why the Golden Company rallies behind him
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
Stannis: "That's not an story, it's the truth!"
@ThisIsWhyYourDadLeft
@ThisIsWhyYourDadLeft Ай бұрын
​@@PedroLucas-mg5je Tywin: "it's not an opinion, it's a fact!"
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of parallels to give Aegon IV the devil's advocate. Both the modern days and the Blackfyre Rebellions are sparked by rumors the new king was fathered by a kingsguard instead of the previous king. Both prior kings are fat, lecherous, and not suited to be kings. The Aemon and Naerys thing could be seen as a parallel to Lancelot and Guinevere as well.
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 4 жыл бұрын
I should made a comment like this along time ago: this also is similar to that of Robert and his wife and his brother-in-law it’s very much parallels them and creates a rift
@saljpal3
@saljpal3 5 жыл бұрын
It's interesting seeing a lot of Targaryens inheriting their personalities from their mothers.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
That Targaryen Breast-Milk must be some good stuff 👀
@geoDB.
@geoDB. Жыл бұрын
Maybe because they spend more time with their mothers as they spend more time raising them than their father ruling the throne?
@keivanfarzanehkari8045
@keivanfarzanehkari8045 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Now that you have created videos for the family trees of Houses Targaryen, Blackfyre, Stark, Lannister, Baratheon, Tyrell, Martell, Greyjoy and Mormont, I think it's time to explain the history and the family trees of Houses Arryn, Tully, Bolton and probably Frey.
@whycreate
@whycreate 7 жыл бұрын
With the info we have from the books, I've done all the family trees that I can. Arryn, Tully and Bolton will have to have a different type of video
@mingolaflare6224
@mingolaflare6224 6 жыл бұрын
whycreate Bolton will be really hard. It would be awesome if you would try some of the smaller houses with significant history; like Blackwood, Umber, Valaryion, Bracken, Mallister, or Royce? That would be awesome. Apologies if you've done any of those already.
@Sivolc007
@Sivolc007 7 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work, absolutely love these videos!
@whycreate
@whycreate 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@viniciuscorreia8896
@viniciuscorreia8896 7 жыл бұрын
i love your videos but SPEAK A LITTLE MORE LOUD
@calvinmehaffey7858
@calvinmehaffey7858 5 жыл бұрын
You can't just... Turn up your volume???
@KrayzLCK
@KrayzLCK 5 жыл бұрын
@@calvinmehaffey7858 at full volume on my earbuds and it's still barely above a whisper
@subutaykhan9387
@subutaykhan9387 5 жыл бұрын
@@calvinmehaffey7858 his voice is too monotone
@koopalibrary
@koopalibrary 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i always found it weird they wrote that the male line of blackfyre pretenders ended with Maelys. My guess is a female branch still exists. And I wouldn't be surprised of Serra, the dead wife of Ilyrio was in fact a blackfyre.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
Female branches do not have any claim to the Iron Throne or even kinship as in everywhere but Dorne the claim comes via sons and sons only. Even if Mrs Mopatis was a Blackfyre she would not be considered kin to the Taragryen anymore
@raimondsstokmanis1892
@raimondsstokmanis1892 5 жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh Dance of the dragons.
@Miuranger1
@Miuranger1 5 жыл бұрын
Sjw by George rr martin
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
If this is true and if Young Griff is a Blackfyre as well, then, let's prepare ourselves for the 2nd Dance of the Dragons/6th Blackfyre Rebellion(and there are theories inside the theories saying that Illyrio is descendent of Aerion Brightflame which would make Griff's claim to the throne even bigger than that of the Baratheons)!
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh She would still be Kin to the Targaryens, but her son definitely wouldn't be named Blackfyre or Targaryen
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 4 жыл бұрын
Daemon II was very gay, they were not rumors. He was the most openly gay GoT book character.
@anonymous8737
@anonymous8737 5 күн бұрын
a super gay guy with 8 kids lmao
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 5 күн бұрын
@@anonymous8737 He had male lover in 'Mystery Knight' and flirted a lot with Dunk.
@mouse3872
@mouse3872 Жыл бұрын
I have begun to wonder recently how things could have been different if the 1st Blackfyre rebellion never happened and House Blackfyre continued to play politics.. would they have faded into obscurity?, would they have been given Dragonstone or Summerhall perhaps, maybe Become great Lords and wardens over their own Lands like being granted the Stepstones after a hypothetical War of Nine penny kings (minus Maelys of course). And if they played politics would they have been great supporters of the Targaryens or would they have been Political Rivals? Would they have supported the Targaryens in Roberts Rebellion? Would they crown themselves rightful heirs to the throne during the War of five kings?
@ankitdas6620
@ankitdas6620 5 жыл бұрын
Every Targaryen bastard bloodline is cursed to get extinct while fighting rebellions for the Iron Throne. first Blackfyre then Baratheons.
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 6 жыл бұрын
The Blackfyre may have more Targaryen blood than the present Targaryens, since Daemon was the product of Daena Targaryen (Aegon III + Daenera Velaryon, who's some sort of cousin) and Aegon (Larra Rogare, Valyrians who are not related + Viserys I). Then the present Targaryens descended from Martell - Dayne - Blackwood. While Daemon may have married Rohanne of Tyrosh, his broods were likely interbreeding, which resulted the twisted Maelys Blackfyre. Its likely that Aegor + Calla may have been greatgrandparents of the imposter Aegon.
@magicman3400
@magicman3400 5 жыл бұрын
Goshio Arago why do you think Aegon is an imposter cause of the golden company? If so why would they not support a Targaryen the last blackfyre died years ago like decades and why would the members of the golden company know of Aegon is a blackfyre as both Jon Connington and Aegon believe he is who he says he is would it really make sense to tell an entire sellsword company but not Jon Connington or Aegon? They clearly aren’t supporting him because he’s a blackfyre they support him cause he’s a charismatic leader and they have claims that can pressed and Aegon is their best hope of returning to Westeros
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
The blood was reestablished by Jahareys II marrying his sister and then Aerys marrying his sister. Daenerys and Rheagar were said to be resembling pure Valyrians in appearance and mannerisms by Barristan Selmy. If they had any outside blood it did not manifest in them. Viserys, Barristan notes had the typical madness that strikes Taragaryens but not his siblings
@allyriastark3508
@allyriastark3508 4 жыл бұрын
You're wrong. GRRM said Blackfyres married Essosi nobility. Aegon is also not a fake as he has Indigo eyes and Silver hair like Rhaegar. Golden Company in the books are fixated on Daenerys not Aegon, they broke their contract with Myr to support her. Aegon only swayed them to his side after Tyrion's advice.
@milesskillman256
@milesskillman256 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Varys have connection to Blackfyre? I mean he could be.
@Dapryor
@Dapryor 5 жыл бұрын
How?
@raimondsstokmanis1892
@raimondsstokmanis1892 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dapryor kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrOPm8uHzJ-8hXk.html
@egemenalpserbest3024
@egemenalpserbest3024 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dapryor he shaves his hair i think because its valyrian blond, and he might be the brother of illyro mopatis's wife which might be a blackfyre descent so that explains a lot of things but not confirmed...
@allyriastark3508
@allyriastark3508 4 жыл бұрын
No, Varys is a Pentoshi.
@MasterPoppers
@MasterPoppers 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dapryor He shaves his head and I don't think we are ever given a description of his eyes in the book (shown to be purple in the graphic novels). It's reminiscent of Egg and how he shaved his head to hide his identity.
@Rickuo
@Rickuo 5 жыл бұрын
Correction: George Martin said, that the Blackfyre Dynasty is extinct in the *male line*.
@theokeithjones318
@theokeithjones318 7 жыл бұрын
Good job whycreate..
@GandalfGreyhame
@GandalfGreyhame 4 жыл бұрын
Aegon IV Targaryen = Robert Baratheon -30 combat skills, +100 thiccness
@odin6667
@odin6667 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a spin-off series during the events of, and leading up to the Blackfyre rebellion. Or even the Dance of Dragons era.
@caven7056
@caven7056 2 жыл бұрын
One of your wishes have been granted. I hope you're still alive to see it
@seanyourhero1765
@seanyourhero1765 6 жыл бұрын
dude LOVE your game of thrones content!!!!!
@ep8246
@ep8246 7 жыл бұрын
Aegon the unworthy is basically Robert
@blitzkrieg2928
@blitzkrieg2928 7 жыл бұрын
with +1000 tonne and less fighting skills
@kwazooplayingguardsman5615
@kwazooplayingguardsman5615 7 жыл бұрын
Eva Fiskeman you did know that robert's rule was called the golden age.
@mingolaflare6224
@mingolaflare6224 6 жыл бұрын
Eva Fiskeman not really. The only similarities are the (amount) of bastards and getting fat in the end of their reigns. Robert was an unstoppable force on the battlefield when he was young, but instead of making stupid decisions while king he allowed smarter people in his council to make the rules. While this led to easy corruption, there was 1 rebellion (1st Greyjoy Rebellion) during his reign which Robert himself led a coalition against and smashed. Victarion led the Iron Fleet and destroyed the Lannister fleet (so who cares that much) and this was very early in Roberts reign. Robert was smart enough to know he was the martial side to the crown, and left the rest to Jon Arryn who was by far a great HotK. Robert also had great wardens to keep things under control. Roberts reign was very peaceful. Of course after his death, like Aegon's shit popped off but for different reasons (kinda). It wasn't Roberts bastards, it was Cersei's that caused the Wot5Ks. Robert was powerful enough to keep Gregor Clegane in line, which is saying something. Aegon the Unworthy had no rule like that, there was peace yes but no one respected Aegon. People respected Robert, whether because he won the crown, and secured it, or because he had basically a powerful ally in control of every kingdom.
@lucas-xz9vf
@lucas-xz9vf 6 жыл бұрын
kwazooplayingguardsman litle finger's rule
@O.G.H.
@O.G.H. 6 жыл бұрын
Mingo La Flare I believe the only reason why Robert was respected is that he had the North, Vale, Riverlands and Stormlands backing him up. I doubt any king before him had this much power since Aegon the Conqueror. He was king, not only in name but also in power. Daenerys can go fuck herself compared to Robert. She will never sit on the Iron Throne, that much I can say.
@otakutaste3793
@otakutaste3793 5 жыл бұрын
Varys is a descendant of the blackfyre. Shaves his head man to hide. 😂
@mr.personhumanson6871
@mr.personhumanson6871 5 жыл бұрын
I had to plug my laptop to my dusty old large speaker just so I could listen to this clearly
@TheAelaryn
@TheAelaryn 7 жыл бұрын
You seriously deserve way more subscribers. Always looking forward to your content. :)
@whycreate
@whycreate 7 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Aelaryn :D
@boshvasara1868
@boshvasara1868 6 жыл бұрын
I ALWAYS believed that illyrio mopatis is Young Griffs father. When Daenarys woke up on a bed she saw a beautiful statue of a man and illyrio smiled and said that that was him in his youth. Also when Young Griff left for somewhere (i forgot) Illyrio looks on and watches him when he leaves.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
Illyrio helped raise the boy, seeing him off is just being nice
@MegaMarcin98
@MegaMarcin98 6 жыл бұрын
Yarys might be a Blackfyre. And Griff too, in the books
@allyriastark3508
@allyriastark3508 4 жыл бұрын
No. Varys is Pentoshi and he is bald with no eye color given. Aegon is truly Aegon as he has silver hair + indigo eyes like Rhaegar.
@ashleighhaigh8795
@ashleighhaigh8795 3 жыл бұрын
@Fatin Marwat, a KZfaqr called Alt Shift X did a video on the theory of Young Griff being a Blackfyre. It’s actually quite interesting
@iwantlee9510
@iwantlee9510 6 жыл бұрын
Would be very cool of Blackfyre appeared in Season 8, as the Golden Company comes to Westeros. It would be even cooler if Jon got his hands on that sword.
@chrisbutler152
@chrisbutler152 7 жыл бұрын
It's not extinct, and I bet we will see the Blackfyre sword.
@allyriastark3508
@allyriastark3508 4 жыл бұрын
No, unlikely since no Targaryen claimant has the sword by now. House Targaryen should have Blackfyre after Haegon's murder when he surrounded.
@vulcan387
@vulcan387 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovejoy4049 Aegon passed the sword to Daemon instead of his son so i believe the sword belonged to the Blackfyres from that day.
@queenanneboleyn6848
@queenanneboleyn6848 Жыл бұрын
@@lovejoy4049 But wasn't Daemon a full-blooded Targaryen?
@goatof2k716
@goatof2k716 5 жыл бұрын
Daemon would have been king if he wasn’t so honorable
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 4 жыл бұрын
Daemon would have been king if the Three-Eyed Raven didn't kill him in such a cowardly manner.
@romanrepublic1356
@romanrepublic1356 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mailed-Knight crow*
@Mailed-Knight
@Mailed-Knight 4 жыл бұрын
@@romanrepublic1356 Right, Blood Raven, Three-Eyed Crow you get how I can get those confused?
@anatoldenevers237
@anatoldenevers237 Жыл бұрын
@@Mailed-Knight It might have been cowardly but it was the smarter play. Brynden Rivers hasn't a shred of honor but he got the job done.
@kieracunningham6805
@kieracunningham6805 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video about the Dance if Dragons war?! I love your channel
@juliandavidcruzsaenz1678
@juliandavidcruzsaenz1678 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, but please do something whit the sound, it is lower than the others.
@CybermanKing
@CybermanKing 7 жыл бұрын
Blood Raven didn't give a fuck. It's a shame they killed him off in the show.
@sharp52092
@sharp52092 4 жыл бұрын
I think Young Griff might be a Blackfyre, though I don't think he'll ever get the Iron Throne. Though if any ASOIAF character is a Blackfyre, my money says Varys.
@gareypisello3321
@gareypisello3321 6 жыл бұрын
Good content, but I can barely hear *anything*. It's so quiet. The commercial halfway through was screaming at me through my speakers, compared to the video.
@frost2104ify
@frost2104ify 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Just a heads up the audio is very quite. I had to turn my sound all the way up and still had a hard time hearing it.
@johnshumate8112
@johnshumate8112 4 жыл бұрын
The first and third dunk and egg short stories were pretty confusing because I didn’t know the blackfyre family tree or the Targaryen royal family at that time
@krisjerome5506
@krisjerome5506 7 жыл бұрын
What is the main font you are using? I feel like I know it but I can't think of the name.
@kristof4689
@kristof4689 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see a series about the targaryens after The Game Of Thrones
@mackenzieyoung5306
@mackenzieyoung5306 Жыл бұрын
Daemon a pure blood targaryen leader of the bastard line that's so crazy
@isaiahmacdonald9739
@isaiahmacdonald9739 5 жыл бұрын
Aegon the Conquerers rise to power, Old King Jaehaerys’ rule, the Dance of Dragons or the Blackfyre Rebellion would each make awesome spin-offs.
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 5 жыл бұрын
Is it ever mentioned if Aegor Rivers had children with Calla Blackfyre??? or did his family line ended when he died fighting with the Golden Company in Essos??
@csar9643
@csar9643 4 жыл бұрын
According to GRRM, my brother didn't had children
@EJTHEGemini
@EJTHEGemini 7 жыл бұрын
Yassss thank youuuuuuu
@natedorney7032
@natedorney7032 5 жыл бұрын
Maelys The Monstrous was the last "Male" of the line... There were daughters born as well though. It is my theory that "Young Griff" is a blackfyre child born of one of the daughters that was handsomely compensated for her trouble. If you need a changeling that can pass for a royal Targaryan prince, where do you go??? It makes perfect sense.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
But the females do not count in sucession.
@hannothestupid2064
@hannothestupid2064 Жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh then the Lannisters aren’t really Lannister is because they’re only descendent from the female line because One king only had daughters
@suikerkahuure5753
@suikerkahuure5753 3 жыл бұрын
Thanksgiving dinners must have been tense
@SoFloShylockPrankstv
@SoFloShylockPrankstv 7 жыл бұрын
Is the background music from skyrim?
@theshewolf7932
@theshewolf7932 6 жыл бұрын
SoFlo Shylock@Pranks.tv i thought the same thing!
@hobnobhead4043
@hobnobhead4043 6 жыл бұрын
SoFlo Shylock@Pranks.tv close, its from elder scrolls IV Oblivion
@anishkasharan9952
@anishkasharan9952 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, but it'd be amazing if you spoke a little louder and with some pauses.
@Ghostmite98
@Ghostmite98 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the blackfyre rebellions was a GOT prequel show we could have gotten, granted they take place over the course of like 120ish years but still we get to see very prominent characters in the lore taking part in these mini-civil wars. I feel this is more a civil war than rebellion even though that rolls off the tongue better, it's targaryens fighting full/half or quarter targaryens for the iron throne. I only have the main GOT books but haven't read them so I'm most likely missing context from the fire and blood books, but my take on this is things have become more history is repeating itself just without dragons this time around just for a targaryen to take the throne. Please feel free to correct me if what I'm saying is way off the mark because I know I'm definitely wrong about some details here and there.
@sonofjack6286
@sonofjack6286 4 жыл бұрын
Aegon VI could be a Blackfyre, he commands the Golden Company, only Blackfyres have been seen leading the Golden Company.
@Androb84
@Androb84 7 жыл бұрын
Seems intresting, but the sound is too low
@terriabeal221
@terriabeal221 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me I would've got way worse if they had dragon on Targaryen and Blackfyre
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 7 жыл бұрын
Also Sir Aegon Targaryen IV also made Elenea Targaryen's pregnant the little sister of Deana Targaryen rather name her son a bastard, she name him after her last husband who died one year before. The last name was Plumm (House Plumm)
@most-def184
@most-def184 7 жыл бұрын
background tune sounds familiar...
@theshewolf7932
@theshewolf7932 6 жыл бұрын
most-def.net skyrim!!
@kingofthebalconybrutaljagu7468
@kingofthebalconybrutaljagu7468 6 жыл бұрын
TheSheWolf oblivion
@budal15
@budal15 5 жыл бұрын
Something wrong wih sound, volume is extremely low
@hmmBEEFY
@hmmBEEFY 6 жыл бұрын
It's good to be the king
@abhiishri4496
@abhiishri4496 7 жыл бұрын
my brain's gonna explode.... its just like watching the targaryens family tree... too much info
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 6 жыл бұрын
Why do you use skyrim background music?
@DanFromMerdo
@DanFromMerdo 6 жыл бұрын
Daemon Blackfyre ftw
@flmc654mcrf4
@flmc654mcrf4 5 жыл бұрын
So daenerys' name came from daena and naerys? XD
@jacaerys4
@jacaerys4 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. But there was Daenaerys, Naerys and Aegon IV’s daughter
@ChimRichalds34
@ChimRichalds34 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a woman with a similar name before the conquest. Daenys or something?
@saranemcova5448
@saranemcova5448 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChimRichalds34 Yeah. Daenys the Dreamer. She foresaw Doom of Valyria. Thanks to her, Targaryens survived the cataclysm.
@evilpiratemermaid
@evilpiratemermaid 5 жыл бұрын
So I just noticed, but are u using the Skyrim soundtrack for these videos? Lol
@chasetaylor9174
@chasetaylor9174 6 жыл бұрын
It keeps sounding like he's saying Brandon and not Brynden to me
@charliehovey4534
@charliehovey4534 5 жыл бұрын
whys the audio so quiet?????
@hedesiua.vladimir9748
@hedesiua.vladimir9748 4 жыл бұрын
I like the video, but I hate that really low volume
@tbarasa10
@tbarasa10 6 жыл бұрын
A small segway...how does this theory tie into the blackfyre rebellion and the survivors forming the golden company?
@derick4082
@derick4082 6 жыл бұрын
AT SOME POINTS IT WAS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND THE MUSIC WOULD OVERPOWER YOUR VOICE, IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE CLEARER AND LOUDER IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED! OTHER THAN THAT, GREAT VIDEO!
@buttman2283
@buttman2283 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the skyrim music playing in the background
@FirstnameLastname-cr1kv
@FirstnameLastname-cr1kv 7 жыл бұрын
Daenerys? Why does Dany in the show call herself "the first of her name"?
@whycreate
@whycreate 7 жыл бұрын
You only get a number after your name if you're a ruler. The other Daenerys was just a princess.
@robronsuggle6897
@robronsuggle6897 6 жыл бұрын
The first of their name is just a GOT way of saying the first or the fifth for example Elizabeth II of England would be Elizabeth Windsor, Second of Her Name. There have been more than two Elizabeth's in English Royal History including Queen Consorts (married to a King) but only King or Queen Regants are given a number
@FirstnameLastname-cr1kv
@FirstnameLastname-cr1kv 6 жыл бұрын
Robron Suggle Thank you for clearing that up.
@mysouptoocold1656
@mysouptoocold1656 6 жыл бұрын
No one likes drone that's why
@Feepis
@Feepis 5 жыл бұрын
She's the first ruler of that name. Aemon and Aegon are extremely common names in the targaryen family, yet the last Aegon king was the fifth of his name
@elcucuy7987
@elcucuy7987 3 жыл бұрын
There may be one backfire alive. Young Griff??
@koopalibrary
@koopalibrary 7 жыл бұрын
My guess is the Aegon in the books is a blackfyre descendant from the female line. I even have the crackpot theory that fAegon is in fact the child of Ilyrio and Serra whom I believa was Varys his sister. (with Varys resembling a Targaryen name and him being bald... making Varys a blackfyre descendant through the female line)
@davidking6242
@davidking6242 7 жыл бұрын
Koopa Library varys is lysene so if he had silver hair or purple eyes it doesn't make him a targaryen just valyrian.
@koopalibrary
@koopalibrary 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it makes him targaryen,, i'm saying i have a crackpot theory. I know it's a reach but that is what crackpot theories are for.
@davidjones5333
@davidjones5333 5 жыл бұрын
Agree that Aegon is Ilyrio's son and a Blackfyre on his mother's side; it's mentioned that one of the courtesans of the past was supposedly a Targaryn Princess and Illyrio himself talks about falling in love with, then marrying a former bed slave. Can't see her being related to Varys though. His motive in the scheme is simply to ensure that the realm gets a ruler who actually cares about the people. Ironically Rhaegar's real son is the best possible person to rule fairly.
@magicman3400
@magicman3400 5 жыл бұрын
David Jones the courtesan is talking about sera Targaryen during the reign of jaehaerys the first and I believe Aegon is legit and is the son of rhaegar but I’m not sure if he is elias or lyannas son
@davidjones5333
@davidjones5333 5 жыл бұрын
No chance Aegon is legit, too much forshaowing about the mumur's dragon
@Captain-Axeman
@Captain-Axeman 5 жыл бұрын
Long live blackfire!!! You have ouer support.
@creakychair9387
@creakychair9387 7 жыл бұрын
are you truely sure that they are extinct.
@recordedbutterflies8334
@recordedbutterflies8334 7 жыл бұрын
WHy create love your family tree videos
@whycreate
@whycreate 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@user-rm4xu1eg4f
@user-rm4xu1eg4f 7 жыл бұрын
Yaaaas Tyrion
@lelandmaxwell6682
@lelandmaxwell6682 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, what your saying is interesting but can u speak up? I want to here what your saying bit the volume on my phone doesn't go that high in speaker phone mode.
@mfpope7431
@mfpope7431 7 жыл бұрын
Nah fuck that the heir is who ever the father wants it to be, randayl tartly chose dickon over sam so aegon can choose daemon over daeron
@mr.notsonice
@mr.notsonice 6 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Pope Not with the council of 133AC. Thats why The Dance happened.
@cecejk
@cecejk 6 жыл бұрын
tarly wanted Dickson over Sam but had to force Sam out to bring Dickson in. He gave Sam the choice, take the black or die.
@gamelands2885
@gamelands2885 6 жыл бұрын
Do the Frey's next
@andre-pm9jl
@andre-pm9jl 6 жыл бұрын
Game Lands Walder Frey has too many daughters to fit the screen lmfao
@gamelands2885
@gamelands2885 6 жыл бұрын
Hypnotic that's the main reason
@chrismason6857
@chrismason6857 7 жыл бұрын
This video didn't appear in my subs
@Chris-zo4vu
@Chris-zo4vu 5 жыл бұрын
The visual aid is really lacking in such a convoluted story. Need more help to wrap my head around it
@aaronthomson3639
@aaronthomson3639 Ай бұрын
whycreate: Not a single member of this family tree is alive in the main story. Me reading the theory of Young Griff actually being a Blackfyre theory and thinking it make so much sense and hope it is canon because it would be perfect that the 6th Aegon leads the 6th Blackfyre Rebellion in the 6th book of the series. Me: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
@historycenter4011
@historycenter4011 6 жыл бұрын
Aegon.
@alemonkiki
@alemonkiki 5 жыл бұрын
This videos audio is very low dude
@movo2060
@movo2060 2 жыл бұрын
House Tynn, Rosemont, Agis, Whispers
@jackmansbridge126
@jackmansbridge126 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do something about the forresters
@luizfelipevbf5567
@luizfelipevbf5567 5 жыл бұрын
He can't, they don't exist in the books. Only in the game
@tylerpape4382
@tylerpape4382 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Aegon in the book is a blackfyre.
@senortmeh5302
@senortmeh5302 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the music?
@arthurdayne8029
@arthurdayne8029 4 жыл бұрын
Señor Tmeh it’s from the Skyrim OST
@syedwaqqas85
@syedwaqqas85 6 жыл бұрын
Your recorded voice is very low...
@orala2593
@orala2593 Жыл бұрын
extinct through the male line
@redadmiralofvalyria867
@redadmiralofvalyria867 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't House "Blackfyre" & House "Targaryen" have just done a marriage arrangement or something? (So that way BOTH families can benefit? )
@vladtheimpaler9577
@vladtheimpaler9577 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how all Kings that were named after Aegon the Conqueror, were terrible kings in one way or another. Aegon II the Usurper is the one who started the Dance of Dragons. Aegon III Dragon's Bane who finished what his predecessor started and killed the last dragons, with Aegon IV created House Blackfyre and Aegon V the Unlikely was not a bad king but not really loved and was responsible for the Tragedy at Summer Hall. I am confident however that the latest in line, Aegon VI will break the cycle of shame.
@saljpal3
@saljpal3 5 жыл бұрын
The first king to earn the title "protector of the realm".
@queenanneboleyn6848
@queenanneboleyn6848 Жыл бұрын
The last Aegon: I dun want it. She's mah Queen. And drowns House Targaryen
@visenyastormborn8302
@visenyastormborn8302 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 99 percent sure that young griff is a blackfyre
@marcostargaryen4181
@marcostargaryen4181 6 жыл бұрын
it doesn t make any sense why the golden company would support the son of rhaegar targaryen, then why didin t they try to make a pack with a Targaryen girl with 3 dragons and a much bigger army that they have ?, aegon has to be a blackyfire
@lukedodge4811
@lukedodge4811 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought Jon snow has something to do with House Blackfyre.
@Haychbeeguitar
@Haychbeeguitar 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please pronounce the names properly...Daeron isn’t prounounced Darren it’s Day-ron, Brynden isn’t Brandon it’s Brin-den
@olalustig5397
@olalustig5397 4 жыл бұрын
What about f'aegon?
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