Blacksmithing - Making forge lube *4K

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Torbjörn Åhman

Torbjörn Åhman

Жыл бұрын

This is a short video showing one recipe for a good forge lubricant. Useful when punching and drifting holes. This is far from the only way to make one. There are numerous recipes based on different substances. This particular one originates from a well known blacksmith named Uri Hofi, that sadly passed away recently.
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@ShahinZebarjad
@ShahinZebarjad Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Uri Hofi and thank you very much Torbjörn Åhman for passing the information.💐
@oleg_konovalov
@oleg_konovalov Жыл бұрын
I join your comment...
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 7 ай бұрын
💜
@digitaIgorilla
@digitaIgorilla Жыл бұрын
Usually when the guy doing the videos makes it look effortless, they did multiple takes and edited it heavily. This time it looks effortless because the guy knows things and is a forge-wizard.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I edit too :)
@digitaIgorilla
@digitaIgorilla Жыл бұрын
​@@torbjornahman shhhhhh! 😂
@JayGriffinRTZNJ
@JayGriffinRTZNJ 28 күн бұрын
The "multiple takes" is in the fact that his forge-wizardry is many years in the making.
@pafortin59
@pafortin59 Жыл бұрын
I watch a LOT of blacksmith videos but this is the first time I see or even hear about forge lube - pretty cool!
@ianallen2
@ianallen2 Жыл бұрын
I have seen a tool dipped in something before but never knew what it was. I thought it was coal dust.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
It makes a huge difference, punching a hole.
@humbertozapata3242
@humbertozapata3242 Жыл бұрын
Cree@@torbjornahman
@RelicForgeCo
@RelicForgeCo Жыл бұрын
It’s always a pain to rivet a drift in a hole you’re punching. Life got a lot easier when I started using punch lube 👍
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Unless you deform the punch in the hole... ouch...
@TalRohan
@TalRohan Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman that would not be fun to drill out
@Einherjar_17
@Einherjar_17 Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Uri Hofi. Thanks Torbjörn Åhman for the video, I send you greetings from the south of Argentina.
@johnrayfield11
@johnrayfield11 Жыл бұрын
One of those simple engineering tips, that saves a whole bunch of frustration and impatience !
@TheTrueOSSS
@TheTrueOSSS Жыл бұрын
Lube wont just make things release easier. It will also change how parts compress. A lubed die will exhibit less barreling due to frictional factors while forging a part. For steel industry typically uses graphite powder when a lubricant is used.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
It makes total sense!
@cholulahotsauce6166
@cholulahotsauce6166 Жыл бұрын
What's barreling?
@TheTrueOSSS
@TheTrueOSSS Жыл бұрын
@@cholulahotsauce6166 Imagine crushing a cylander from the flat ends. Ideally we would get a perfect cylander. But friction prevents the ends from squishing out like the center. The resulting shape looks like a barrel.
@2dividedby3equals666
@2dividedby3equals666 Жыл бұрын
It's almost hard to believe how well it works!! Mr. Hofi will be remembered by anyone using this recipe. Thanks for sharing and take care!!
@taitano12
@taitano12 Жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about this stuff. Our Welding and Metal Shop teacher told us about it and gave us a recipe, but we never used it - mostly because we only spent a few days on Blacksmithing. Thank you for the memory and reminder... Now, if only I could remember the recipe.
@dpeter6396
@dpeter6396 Жыл бұрын
I have both powders on the shelf but it never occurred to me to use either, let alone both, as a hot lube for punching/drifting. Wow, it's like magic compared to coal dust. Thank you!!!
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
It is! I will try mixing some powder with melted beeswax also, and see how that works.
@Jimmy_in_Mexico
@Jimmy_in_Mexico Жыл бұрын
​@@torbjornahman I really like the water soluble mix you have here. I think it seems to be better than if you have a flamable medium. I may be wrong, but this worked surprisingly well
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
@@Jimmy_in_Mexico Yes, just be aware that it is water based... so don't quench any red hot H13 punches or drifts in it (although I have seen people do that too)!
@fredfchopin
@fredfchopin Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman This is why I make my punches and drifts from Atlantic 33. If they get too hot I can just heat them up to dull red and re-quench them in water and I'm right back in business. Sometimes if I leave the drift in the steel long enough it'll actually get to the right temperature that I can just pull it right out of the steel and re-quench it so that saves a step. This is why I call Atlantic 33 "magical happy steel" and it's become my go-to steel for tools.
@user-qp4nv4bg3e
@user-qp4nv4bg3e Жыл бұрын
​@@torbjornahman разогретый воск смешать с льняным маслом
@OlneyaTesota
@OlneyaTesota Жыл бұрын
Beautiful drift ! I see the Anvil can be used for many things….a chemists bench being one of them. 👍. JC🌵
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@edkovac8978
@edkovac8978 Жыл бұрын
Torbjörn is showing us the secrets of blacksmithing magic. Very practical.
@xXMACEMANXx
@xXMACEMANXx Жыл бұрын
Watching it slide out so effortlessly @ 3:40 has me sold. I'm definitely trying this stuff when I get my new shop set up!
@gerry343
@gerry343 Жыл бұрын
Love watching you making your forgeries.
@ChristCenteredIronworks
@ChristCenteredIronworks Жыл бұрын
Going to have to make some of this stuff! Thanks for sharing 😊
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
It's clearly something else compared to coal dust... I haven't tried the salt based products. They are good too it seems.
@broadriverforge
@broadriverforge Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman i used them extensively in an industrial hot forging environment and they are decent but not even close to the graphite molybdenum based products. parts slide along the surface much better of the tool and less heat transfer and better release. the only "White lube" product that has a similar structure to graphite is Boron nitride which works wonderfully but is extremely expensive and not an affordable option
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
@@broadriverforge Cool, good to know!
@user-yb8et4vm8w
@user-yb8et4vm8w Жыл бұрын
Много времени экономить будете с такой смесью! Браво! Тому кто придумал эту смесь: графит и молибден! Спасибо за ролик. С большим нетерпением жду ваши видео! Респект!
@user-id8gy3vw2f
@user-id8gy3vw2f Жыл бұрын
Тем не менее, Леонид Архангельский рулит!
@wollfal
@wollfal 6 ай бұрын
​@@user-id8gy3vw2f? При чем тут он?
@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 Жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure watching you work! Beautiful video!
@ApukEldar
@ApukEldar Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you Torbjörn.
@swblacksmith.7445
@swblacksmith.7445 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the recipe Thorbjörn. RIP Uri ⚒
@Incandescentiron
@Incandescentiron Жыл бұрын
Impressive! Thank you for showing us!
@Kilemnik
@Kilemnik Жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Hofi Thank you!
@steveware1015
@steveware1015 Жыл бұрын
May Uri Rest In Eternal Peace. ❤️❤️
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Жыл бұрын
This is some great stuff Mr. Torbjörn. You must be a true Master Blacksmith. Job well done fella.
@moreybandel5560
@moreybandel5560 Жыл бұрын
That lube is amazing! Thanks for sharing!
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
That certainly looks very convincing. Thanks for sharing this.
@pinkiebrain7597
@pinkiebrain7597 Жыл бұрын
Your work deserves 4k! ❤😊
@mannsdan
@mannsdan Жыл бұрын
That's incredibly effective! Almost magical!
@jmtx.
@jmtx. Жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing how parts just slide apart with this!
@derangedmetalworks9489
@derangedmetalworks9489 Жыл бұрын
I am definitely saving this video so I can write everything down later.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
As I wrote in the description, this is one recipe of many. Be aware this is a water based lube, so don't quench anything that doesn't like water... I will probably make a wax based variant also, to try out.
@outbackladas
@outbackladas Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very informative video, it will be a great help to those making axes, hammers etc. Condolences for the loss of your friend Uri Hofi, it is sad to lose those we admire and trust. Regards from Down Under.
@jjbode1
@jjbode1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the formula!
@dagoonite
@dagoonite Жыл бұрын
Bet you forgot about me! Still noticing your editing. That nice reset so that you could show yourself adding the soap was completely unnecessary... and completely worth it. That little bubble in the air made me grin so much. Thank you, once again, for your details in these videos.
@CaptainTwitchy
@CaptainTwitchy Жыл бұрын
I laughed at the tiny bubble too! Thunder Bear’s Bubbles
@roadkillreborn3047
@roadkillreborn3047 Жыл бұрын
such a beautiful video. and its literally blacksmithing... crazy
@verndahl3848
@verndahl3848 Жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff ! thanks for sharing.
@richardsurber8226
@richardsurber8226 Жыл бұрын
Great Idea Torbjorn Thanks for a great video
@fredfchopin
@fredfchopin Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'll have to try making this stuff. I've been using just some powdered graphite recently and it's actually worked surprisingly well; was going to mix it with some melted beeswax as I've heard that's a decent punch lube but this stuff looks pretty promising and will certainly stick to the punch a whole lot better.
@judsonsdiscretionarymetalw5866
@judsonsdiscretionarymetalw5866 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information. Thank you!
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 Жыл бұрын
The molybdenum should gradually build up on the sides of the drift making it really smooth
@smacksteel708
@smacksteel708 3 ай бұрын
I’m extremely impressed by how easily that drift fell out of the hole
@Enigma-Sapiens
@Enigma-Sapiens Жыл бұрын
That's an awesome concoction! Condolences for your loss.
@3870TheDad
@3870TheDad Жыл бұрын
WOW!! Thanks for the information. Life will get definately easier with this punch lube.
@stephenedwardleemusic8997
@stephenedwardleemusic8997 9 ай бұрын
un believable!!! thanks for this post
@elncalls
@elncalls Жыл бұрын
4K looks good to me! Thanks.
@TimBielawa
@TimBielawa Жыл бұрын
Video looked crisp!
@gtbkts
@gtbkts Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome content and great info!
@jmorv8866
@jmorv8866 Жыл бұрын
Thats awesome. I had no idea there was such a thing, but it seems pretty handy!
@parvindergill4415
@parvindergill4415 Жыл бұрын
Learning something new every day. Thank you for teaching me. Keep up the good work. 💪❤️👌
@MASI_forging
@MASI_forging Жыл бұрын
Great work. You did very professional.
@winterhorse290
@winterhorse290 Жыл бұрын
WOW can not wait to try it!!
@pjhalchemy
@pjhalchemy Жыл бұрын
Man that works a treat, Torbjorn! Seems like it could be used for other things as well. Moly and graphite are some of the best lubes, imho. Thanks for sharing this recipe from Mr. Hofi in his memory!! Great editing on the 2 camera shots!!
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Leanderdw
@Leanderdw Жыл бұрын
Man! Thanx a lot for this recipe!!! Have been fiddling around with store-bought graphitegrease but boy, does it smell nasty. This really is going to help me a lot. Keep up the good work, always enjoy your video's!
@penchant4
@penchant4 Жыл бұрын
Love your work, and your videos!
@kevinlipka4336
@kevinlipka4336 Жыл бұрын
Made some works like a charm. The best I ever used. Thank you
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Great!
@Troy665Z
@Troy665Z Жыл бұрын
HOLY MOLEY! THAT'S GENIUS!!!
@jaysilber910
@jaysilber910 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely have to make this stuff!
@ForgingAheadArtisanBlacksmith
@ForgingAheadArtisanBlacksmith 10 ай бұрын
@torbjornahman Thank you for sharing this recipe. I made it up and have been using it in my rivet hole drifts. It works great, like nothing before.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 10 ай бұрын
Great!
@aloberdorf4579
@aloberdorf4579 Жыл бұрын
A fitting tribute, to an obviously talented Craftsman.......Kudos.
@tomdupree2758
@tomdupree2758 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't sold on the 4k until I watched. I'f you've got the editing hardware and storage space I'd love to see more.
@gillesjordi3997
@gillesjordi3997 Жыл бұрын
Magnifique idée, super vidéo comme d'habitude. Bravo pour tout votre travail! Salutations de Suisse!
@johndorlean1133
@johndorlean1133 8 ай бұрын
Wow! That's impressive
@bradleytuckwell4881
@bradleytuckwell4881 Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing stuff thanks for sharing
@petercowell2051
@petercowell2051 Жыл бұрын
That is really good. Thank you.
@offpherj7884
@offpherj7884 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Will checking this out...
@brianfalls5038
@brianfalls5038 Жыл бұрын
WOW!! Now that's some great stuff there all right.
@killerkane1957
@killerkane1957 Жыл бұрын
Brother Torbjörn!! I like your recipe! I have used graphite and beeswax for years. I love it but the wax can smoke. I think I will try your idea. Ha! I always do. TIP: agricultural graphite is the best choice - at least here in the U.S. Far cheaper than what can be bought at the hardware store. Ag graphite comes in 5 lb jugs for a fraction of the cost. My best to you and yours!
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Sweet, good tip! Thanks
@QwertySpaceOfficial
@QwertySpaceOfficial Жыл бұрын
RIP Uri Hofi. I remember my teacher showing us the Hofi Hammer technique.
@SkyHighGame
@SkyHighGame Жыл бұрын
Fantastiska videos. Genom dig har jag lärt mig massvis om smide och jag känner att jag är på god väg att bli nybörjare smed och få leva ut barndomsdrömmen till slut. Fantastic videos. Through you, i've learned so mush and I'm well on my way to become a blacksmith novice. Childhood dream soon accomplished. =)
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Trevligt! Tack
@HippoXXL
@HippoXXL Жыл бұрын
I liked the plop soundeffect. Greetings from Germany; Marcus
@elitearbor
@elitearbor Жыл бұрын
That's a useful "magic trick"! I'll have to whip some of this up for myself. Without the liquid soap and the water, it's basically what I use to lubricate woodstove hinges and similar in situations where it's going to be exceptionally hot for long periods of time. Any conventional lubricant would simply cause issues as it burned.
@garethhoward3995
@garethhoward3995 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for shareing. I now have a power hammer and want to finish making your pumpkin candle holder. This should make punching thr tapered hole for the candle easier.
@valeriprikladnoy10
@valeriprikladnoy10 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! A useful lesson.
@sevazinhogamer9521
@sevazinhogamer9521 Жыл бұрын
Wow nice trick! Thanks a lot
@j.m.k.3406
@j.m.k.3406 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@SchysCraftCo.
@SchysCraftCo. Жыл бұрын
Very nice and very helpful and definitely information video this week. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SchysCraftCo.
@SchysCraftCo. Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman your welcome
@theflyingfool
@theflyingfool Жыл бұрын
Wow! 4K & I can almost see the molecules mixing in the pot ;)
@dominic347
@dominic347 Жыл бұрын
I used to moly coat bullets for reloading and after reading on the bottle of molybdenum disulfide the extreme heat and preesure it can withstand I mixed some with linseed oil and used that as a drift lube with great results. I was wiping it on though and this dipping technique looks much better. Gonna have to get some graphite and see how much that helps too.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Cool. I will try to mix in some powder in melted beeswax also to see how that works. The water based is good for dipping, but will sediment with time so you need to stirr it after a while.
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 Жыл бұрын
For lead bullets. Try powder coat powder. In a old toaster oven. You can color for different loads. You will get looks at the range.
@maplebones
@maplebones 6 ай бұрын
@@torbjornahman Never Seize is essentially the same, doesn't sediment or dry up and a lot cheaper than putting this together . It uses aluminum in place of the moly which makes it safer. The fumes coming off molybdenum are carcinogenic Why reinvent the wheel ?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 6 ай бұрын
@@maplebones Reinvent? I just presented something that has been used for a long time. A product like "Never Seize" isn't available everywhere.
@broadriverforge
@broadriverforge Жыл бұрын
Moly powder and graphite powder with beeswax and alittle water to make it like a butter is great. butter up every axe drift before using. this recipe is better than white lube (sodium hydroxide), using the moly/graph lube also prevents material deformation when drift is going into the workpiece, the graphite creates a skin on the drift allowing the hot steel to slide along the surface of the drift a bit before it is burnt up.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
I'm going to try the wax also!
@broadriverforge
@broadriverforge Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman just brush it on when the drift is warm and your ready to go
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
@@broadriverforge Could a hard block of wax (with powder melted in) work too? To rub on? Or it might be too much wax if you can actually get it to a block state again?
@broadriverforge
@broadriverforge Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman ive done it that way but for the big drifting i found using small paint brush and having the moly,wax graphite powerder with a little bit of water just so its a thick slurry is easy to butter it up, i like a decent coat for the drifting i do but a hard block of wax would go on well if the drifts not too hot and just the right warmth so it melts on
@cholulahotsauce6166
@cholulahotsauce6166 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if Vaseline would be a good carrier.
@manoelgfarias2035
@manoelgfarias2035 Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend
@stevendufresne9994
@stevendufresne9994 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Thanks!!👍👍
@Rendpullman
@Rendpullman Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss.
@Florinachis
@Florinachis Жыл бұрын
Good idea 💡!
@gregsullivan8956
@gregsullivan8956 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@jimrt1738
@jimrt1738 Жыл бұрын
A Small lump of coal or powdered coal as been used in industrial for hundreds of years ,I use it my self for deep hole punching up-to 10” in carbon steel .for drop forge it was hard wood sawdust .👍
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Sure but this is 10x more effective :) Much more expensive but it works really really well for some applications at least.
@jimrt1738
@jimrt1738 Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman high there ,you are right it was a information to anybody to use, there are thing that have been lost to blacksmith and they need to be documented ,for example just one foil chewing gum wrapper in a coke forge will stop you fire welding .A clean fire and fuel is very important .Red lead powder mixed with paraffin is a barrier to molten cast iron ,you don’t need to use flux to get a good fire weld ,the scarf is the most important part .The more heats used to forge something degrades the parent metal.Coal as to be coked to be used in a open forge .black hot metal makes skin stick to it . Tempering is done after hardening .wrought iron starts its life as a bloom.Upsetting before you bend can give you a radius free bend .to calculate how long a revert needs to be to make a full cup is (the diameter half the diameter +1/8 of a inch.just a few things that I have used in the past 50 years of blacksmithing Kind regards JimRT.
@theseconddarrin3788
@theseconddarrin3788 Жыл бұрын
You sir are one of the primary reasons I love KZfaq. Thank you.
@kurtgast2540
@kurtgast2540 Жыл бұрын
When Iearned punching holes the master told me, to put a little amount of coal grit on the surface of the piece and into the advancing hole, this worked out also very well. I enjoy your videos very much, the sound of the power hammer is very familiar to me. Regards from germany
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is mostly what I have done until now. This is way better though.
@JadeOart
@JadeOart Жыл бұрын
Wow! That's really good stuff
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
It is!
@h-j.k.8971
@h-j.k.8971 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@JASON-BEAZLEY
@JASON-BEAZLEY Жыл бұрын
I love your videos there amazing
@Trollsky
@Trollsky Жыл бұрын
Looks like a real game changer Torbjörn !
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
Yea, it's a huge difference with or without. Then, how it compares to other release agents can be subjective I guess. Try it!!
@donaldneill4419
@donaldneill4419 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Composition not all that surprising, as molybdenum disulfide has been used to coat artillery projectiles for more than a hundred years, but it's fascinating to see how the lube is made.
@minopausa
@minopausa Жыл бұрын
Hey dude! We don't like critics in this yt channel!
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 Жыл бұрын
"Plop" - now there's a good Swedish word :D Excellent video!
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman Жыл бұрын
It's actually "plopp" in Swedish :) The sound when something drops in water or a cork releases from a bottle.
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 Жыл бұрын
@@torbjornahman Yes, it is the same here in the UK - although it has an alternative meaning - like many things. :)
@timjackson5555
@timjackson5555 Жыл бұрын
Really like punch lube from Big Blu ! It's a calcium water based spray with temperature die in it.. great stuff! Wonder why soap instead of a traditional beeswax? Might give this a try 👍
@marton_horvath
@marton_horvath Жыл бұрын
Exquisite plop action.
@aaronkokesch3593
@aaronkokesch3593 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the recipe!! Looks like it will make life much easier. But I do have to say it with intent of joking around only amd no disrespectful. I will have to say I am shocked you didn't use boiled linseed oil. You use that for everything! LOL😂😂
@Smallathe
@Smallathe Жыл бұрын
Wonderful tip and a very impressive demon .
@skywind007
@skywind007 6 ай бұрын
Torbjörn, always keep your airflow hood running, specially with lubricants' use. I know that can make your shop very cold but some of these fluids can be absorbed into the body very easily.
@Nobuchu
@Nobuchu Жыл бұрын
genius‼️
@GeneSimonalle
@GeneSimonalle Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@jarlove
@jarlove Жыл бұрын
Jeg hadde aldri tenkt på å blande disse med såpe og vann. men det ser ut som det fungerer utmerket for å få pulveret til å henge fast!! Jeg har laget en blanding av grafitt, voks og olje, men det brenner og er litt grisete. neste gang skal jeg prøve såpe og kanskje også dette molybdem pulveret blandet inn.. genialt!
@JaapGrootveld
@JaapGrootveld Жыл бұрын
Good stuff.
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