Blacksmiths split cross or Friedrichs cross

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5 жыл бұрын

Often referred to as a Friedrich's cross, the split cross is one of those blacksmithing projects that seems almost magical as square bar is opened up into a unique cross with the open center section.
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@HarmonHeat 5 жыл бұрын

From the thumbnail I could not imagine how you made this cross. I watched the whole video and not only did I get to see exactly how but you explain in terms that I fully understand. Thank you for the great vid

@grandadz_forge 5 жыл бұрын

This is one I'll be replaying AT the anvil

@timhooper1557 5 жыл бұрын

Focus you Fak! lol Thanks for sharing...I really enjoy your cool measured style of teaching! You take the time to explain the do's and don'ts So we understand why they are do's and don'ts Which leads to "Us" having a better understanding!

@heinoobermeyer7566 5 жыл бұрын

Camera's just aint skookum as frig nowadays

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Thats like blaming your car if you get a speeding ticket

@wallcarpentry2006 5 жыл бұрын

Ha, another AVE fan

@timhooper1557 5 жыл бұрын

@@wallcarpentry2006 Yes we are many... We are legion! lol

@victorwright4898 5 жыл бұрын

My Dad just passed away. A nice tribute for a Faithful Gospel preacher. He always showed an interest in blacksmithing. Thanks for the tutorial. It will be at his grave site.

@1averageamerican 5 жыл бұрын

My mother in law just showed me a picture of one of these a few days ago and asked if I could make her one. Perfect timing! Thanks John.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Hope it helps

@OmahaLasse 5 жыл бұрын

Lovely to get to see a skilled blacksmith doing old school stuff. Each one teach one.

@TomokosEnterprize 5 жыл бұрын

What an interesting piece John. Thanks for another one.

@GWIRailroad 5 жыл бұрын

That is a great project, nice job! Wayne Love to see the base!

@larryking606 5 жыл бұрын

Very Nice Project ! Also great instructions ! Keep them coming !

@zippitoff 5 жыл бұрын

Very inspirational.. Love all your work.. You make it look so easy.. Millwright Carl.

@brettsayers7768 5 жыл бұрын

Great little project, fun to watch and i learned something as well

@lancerussell666 5 жыл бұрын

I enjoy your vids i can have a cup of coffee and relax while you explain your work you are full of information i learn while you teach thanks nice work

@hearnjack 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@shawnthetoolguruevans6165 5 жыл бұрын

The man knows his craft!

@sunqwest1 5 жыл бұрын

thank you for sharing your knowledge of blacksmithing. awesome

@David-dl4mu Жыл бұрын

Great job.

@TufStockdogs 5 жыл бұрын

Very good of you john to share this I thank you very much

@johnjude2677 5 жыл бұрын

Got mine starting to open Thanks

@andybyerly5629 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks that's great!

@gurvinderkau1e5w18 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video sir

@paulcorrigan649 5 жыл бұрын

Yes please for a base

@trminer 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I vote yes for the base video. :)

@jamesmcmillen4828 5 жыл бұрын

18:01 R.I.P. headphone users. I've made quite a few of these. A lot of folks love having them made out of rail spikes. The spike head is flattened so the cross will stand on it's own. Nice little project. These were one of my first blacksmith projects.

@arlenestanton9955 5 жыл бұрын

New tongs, nice

@hannemannironworks1651 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve made only a few small crosses and they didn’t come out as well as I hoped but you did a great job John!

@escapehatch5998 5 жыл бұрын

I thought my eyesight was going for a second, I appreciate you pointing out it was the camera. Great project, thank you for your videos!

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Mostly it was the camera man not changing over to auto focus.

@mrdrangen1 5 жыл бұрын

Your videos really makes me wish I cud set up my shop to learn blacksmithing. Really good videos. Regards from Sweden

@deerjohn8041 5 жыл бұрын

Blovie I was wishing the same thing a few years ago. I had hammers and not much else. I started going to a local blacksmith club to take notes. I built a coal forge using a hair dryer and scrap metal. A friend found a piece of railroad track I could use for an anvil. Fast forward 3 years and now I have a real Peter Wright anvil, a hand crank forge blower, and I've made most of my necessary blacksmith tools from scrap metal. Long story short, you can do it. Start small and see if you really like it. The whole thing is slowly taking over my life, and I'm better off for it. BTY, my next addition will most likely be a home made gas forge!

@steelpennyforge5152 5 жыл бұрын

I have made these before but never with the hot cut. I used a hack saw and you are right that the bevel looks good on them. Thanks for the tip!!

@olivergroce4216 5 жыл бұрын

You might make a split cross, hook of the week. maybe. Love to watch you.

@KingLoopie1 5 жыл бұрын

I often wondered how to make these crosses. Now I know, thanks to you! Thanks for the video(s)!! We got rain/wind and then snow/wind too in the NW Denver area. Made for an interesting trip yesterday to pick up a tool from a CL ad!

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Denver was a real mess yesterday.

@JF-fx2qv 5 жыл бұрын

Fun little project. Make a base and show it when done.

@6969smurfy 5 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a fancy base. Been trying to find a good plate design for my Castle door hardware...

@fortpecktim6846 5 жыл бұрын

Finally, a slit cross friedegg thingamadohicky that makes sense.

@danielcrawford7315 5 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite ornamental pieces. Nicely instructed with a pleasant end result. Thankyou for having us out to the forge today. If you make the base/stand video...we will watch and learn. Appreciate all you do for us. Hahaha I feel like I need to send a check for Professor John tuitions 😁. Blessed days sirSir , Crawford out

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@bc65925 5 жыл бұрын

There's a friend here close by in the IBA that does these in 3/16 for ear rings and such. I have yet to figure out how he cuts them. He also does the snow flakes which takes 3 splits. I have a picture of one of them next to a penny and the penny is actually bigger.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he uses a jewelers saw

@andrewostrelczuk406 5 жыл бұрын

It's raining here in Michigan too... flood watches til the 19th of March... Robins are here, red wing black bird has visited the feeder... thanks again. Now I really want to make up a holdfast to go in my pritcherd hole like you have used here! Keep up the great work!!!

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Holdfasts are one of those really useful items

@paulcorrigan649 5 жыл бұрын

Yes please to the base

@ryandavis4689 Жыл бұрын

I love that "clamp" I was trying to figure out a way to hold something well and now I see a way, do you have a video on that clamp?

@ilemjohn 5 жыл бұрын

Fun

@shadetreeforge 5 жыл бұрын

At SOFA QUAD STATE this past September, the Saturday night forging competition. The object was forge a hummingbird from precut cross blanks that opened up into an X shape, and then the head n beak, wings, and tail details were forged out of each arm of the cross...

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

That would be a fun followup

@OuroborosArmory 5 жыл бұрын

Hope you made it through the blizzard ok. Thanks for the video :)

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

We had a small amount of rain and almost no snow. Sounds like your area got hammered pretty hard.

@OuroborosArmory 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear. Yea we got Over a foot, with an underlay of ice, and about 50mph winds at some points :). It was crazy

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Does that mean no classes for the rest of the week?

@OuroborosArmory 5 жыл бұрын

Black Bear Forge yesterday and today was no classes. We will see about tomorrow (friday), but I am guessing class will be in session

@guidodringenberg Жыл бұрын

Geile Nummer ! Echt .

@richardsolomon8076 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice job, might be a silly question bit will my cold chisels work as hot cuts or should I change the bevels on a couple and devote them to be hot chisels only? Thanks for sharing your videos I really appreciate the way you teach :-)

@mikemullenix6956 Жыл бұрын

The final exam, blacksmithing 101

@lesagerous1992 5 жыл бұрын

Lol that focus

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, when I'm rich and famous I'll hire a videographer.

@AlexandreFoley 5 жыл бұрын

Oh, it's on focus. On the black knob on the right...

@brianpuntin7462 5 жыл бұрын

What size tip do you use on your torches for heating the ends of the cross?

@dakaraius 5 жыл бұрын

For anyone that doesn't wear glasses......yes, that's what it looks like for us without our glasses.

@coreyshier7526 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the informative video, I now understand how this is done. However, I don't remember you explaining why you left a cube of material on the bottom; can I assume that is meant for a means of mounting in some sort of stand?

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Mostly because if you split clear to the end the upper arm would be as long as the base. But it also provides some material to forge a tenon out of for mounting.

@jackdawg4579 5 жыл бұрын

Good rain! - How are those rainwater tanks you put in last year working out?

@TBizzell68 4 жыл бұрын

Is the torch tip you use a mini rosebud or just a large welding tip?

@sesapex 4 жыл бұрын

While i am well aware of where you were hammering with hands and fingers away from the danger, i couldn't help but be nervous with you flattening the cross on the face of the anvil with the cut off hardy in there.

@BlackBearForge 4 жыл бұрын

Thats the reason the hardy is on the left well away from my hammer hand

@CockatoobirdmanBill 5 жыл бұрын

A small piece of angel iron say 1/2x1/2 through the center of the cross will help to stop it from slipping while upsetting in the vice... be well and be safe....

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

true

@SamuelMcCunemusic 5 жыл бұрын

Did the rain turn to snow? We got 16" up here in Lake George Colorado. Great project thanks for sharing!

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Mostly it just rained, but we did get about a 1/2" of snow over night last night.

@MarkATrombley 5 жыл бұрын

Now I am trying to think of how to do this with wood.

@waldoman1127 5 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking splitting the 3 cross ends into thirds and bending the 2 outside peices to create a cross on each arm of the cross. Hope that makes sense?

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting

@pineywoods0186 5 жыл бұрын

How about a horse shoe trivet for a dutch oven?

@stanervin6108 5 жыл бұрын

You Tube been wanky lately. Haven't done a split cross in a hot minute. Used to do rr spikes with a different cut pattern to save the head for a base. Used the glass marbles from empty spray paint cans to sag into the diamond for a nice visual effect in a sun-filled window. 🐾🔥⚒

@ChristCenteredIronworks 5 жыл бұрын

Comment #892 :-) yes I'm late today lol

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Thats OK, as long as you're in focus.

@timocsutube 3 жыл бұрын

Well John...this is about the 5th time watching this one(wife wants a forged cross) and I just caught the line "cussing til the cows come home". and I had a chuckle at the idea of cussing while forging a cross, is that wise in the first place?

@shadetreeforge 5 жыл бұрын

Also at SOFA last year, imagine a cross made from a precut blank 27" long 2-1/2" x 2-1/2" weighing about 65lbs done by the Brotherhood of Friendly Hammermen

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Thats more than I want to wrestle

@shadetreeforge 5 жыл бұрын

The Brtherhood is a large group of smiths and they all had a hand in it and they use special floor mounted jigs to open it

@stamperknives9783 5 жыл бұрын

I'm first😁

@PeopleAlreadyDidThis 5 жыл бұрын

It's not out of focus, that knob on the light stand is as sharp as can be! Isn't it amazing what the cameras can choose as a focus point sometimes? I make a lot of these crosses from 1/2" square bar for friends, family, folks at church. Eschewing certainty and risk, I go for pragmatism and efficiency: a tiny tip on the plasma cutter and a jig built from heavy flat bar lets me unzip these things quickly. Otherwise, it takes longer to slit them than to forge them.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

I'm impressed you can accurately split a 1/2" bar with a plasma cutter

@petepeterson4540 5 жыл бұрын

fastest forge in the west

@BDensmore184 5 жыл бұрын

Just curious... What set up are you using for your auto strike on your acetylene torch? Oh and by the way I really like all your videos.. They are so instructive and very well put together and you take time to explain different scenarios.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

It is a Smith gas saver or economizer valve. It has a pilot light on it. I'll show it briefly in tomorrows video and go into more detail perhaps next week once I am through reorganizing my torch set up.

@BDensmore184 5 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge thank you sir!! That is awesome!! I really appreciate that!! 😉 Thank you!!

@RasorFPV17 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I'll be having fun with this project. More importantly I've been watching you for a while and have been wondering every video if you know the love of Jesus Christ!?! Thanks again for the videos!

@tdemario3753 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome job John! What’s the dimensions of your anvil, if you don’t mind sharing

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

300 pounds about 33 inches long and 5 inches wide

@tdemario3753 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply! Do you ever or have you ever had to fix the edges on your or anyone else’s anvil? Do you just grind them?

@deemedappropriate4790 5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see the base, i am curious as to how to do a rock base.

@waldoman1127 5 жыл бұрын

Hammer drill a hole into a rock?

@deemedappropriate4790 5 жыл бұрын

That's what i figured, then i guess glue or epoxy?

@waldoman1127 5 жыл бұрын

@@deemedappropriate4790 I think a nice tight fit would be ok but you could epoxy but it might make a mess hard to clean epoxy of stone.

@JarlSeamus 5 жыл бұрын

I would have sworn you did a split cross once before. Was it back during the "Blacksmith's Challenge" series" 3 inches of 1/2 x 1/2 ? Maybe I'm just dreaming that up?

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

I did a split bar trivet earlier, but not the cross

@bunyanforgings7849 5 жыл бұрын

I suppose you could do the splitting with a bandsaw? Of course then it would be more fabrication than smithing.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

I think if I were making a bunch of smaller ones for craft shows I would probably do that. But on the larger ones, I really like the look of the chisel cut.

@willrombilus2491 5 жыл бұрын

You should put in a overhead camera above your anvil

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

I would like to add three or four dedicated camera position. But besides the extra cost, every camera added into the editing takes about an extra hour to edit. Hopefully someday I will have the ability to do that.

@boclark2987 5 жыл бұрын

Can you mention the lay out measurements? I didn’t see it in the video. What are the lengths of the splits and what is the distance of overlap? Thanks

@trminer 5 жыл бұрын

Also, here's a link to a cross template that seems to work pretty well: drive.google.com/file/d/0B4PML-47cH2LT1FFWTVjcXdDR3M/view

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Nice reference

@OrionsAnvil 3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge just saw this, glad that template is still out there.

@jdod64 5 жыл бұрын

Lol, I thought I forgot my glasses at the start.

@jls191 5 жыл бұрын

How was the epic bomb storm in your area?

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

A real non event for us, but in Pueblo 20 miles east it was a real mess due to the wind

@jls191 5 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge Glad you dodged that mess. Thanks for all you do for us.

@Anonarchist 5 жыл бұрын

If you have no cows, then the cows will never come home, so you're stuck forever. At least until you get some cows delivered.

@lenblacksmith8559 5 жыл бұрын

Bit blurry at the start John, just some feedback.

@BlackBearForge 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, I saw that and put some text over the video to acknowledge the fact that I knew about it. But its one of those things that doesn't become apparent until I edit and then it to late to re shoot that section without running into a second day.

@lenblacksmith8559 5 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge Good John, glad u worked it out, a lot of things aren't seen till editing.