Bolt On….Jeep XJ Rear Disc Brake Conversion

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#NorthernMichiganXJs Overland

#NorthernMichiganXJs Overland

2 жыл бұрын

This video is a DIY bolt on rear disc brake swap for jeep Cherokee XJs.
Using factory Jeep Liberty parts.
Emergency brake shoes
MOPAR PART NUMBER : 5093390AC
Emergency Brake hardware
www.ebay.com/itm/202420469329...
Brake rotors pads & caliper’s
www.ebay.com/itm/184591286635...
ZJ brake lines
www.ebay.com/itm/324740055286...
Dana 30 front studs
www.ebay.com/itm/132229471643...

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@explore_off_road
@explore_off_road 4 ай бұрын
I've JUST started watching and gotta say. Those opening sequence XJ's are sweet. Now I will go watch
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Unfortunately my audio was a little off. Because it was the first video I edited with this software.
@SeanMalseed
@SeanMalseed 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is amazing, thank you for the detailed walkthrough
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Your welcome!
@davidlamberson5435
@davidlamberson5435 11 ай бұрын
One of the better videos on this procedure. Thanks!
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 11 ай бұрын
Thank you and your welcome
@motownXJdad9565
@motownXJdad9565 2 жыл бұрын
great vid Rob 👍
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@guy-zw3sz
@guy-zw3sz Жыл бұрын
When doing this, make sure you get the same axles going back in the same sides you took them out because one is a little longer than the other. almost started freaking out because I got the short one in the wrong side and could not put the C clip on it realized later what I had done thought I got the wrong kit for a minute or two😅😉👍
@DocJeep1
@DocJeep1 Жыл бұрын
Remove the axle and you can remove the entire brake assembly in one piece pretty much. Just quicker. 👍
@bc.epicadventures9567
@bc.epicadventures9567 2 жыл бұрын
great job on the video.. you explained very clear and detailed.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@darylm.9432
@darylm.9432 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, informative, well done tutorial on the upgrade. My only issue, you say "bolt on" and while true up until the line bracket, that needs to be welded to axle tube to keep the line from moving. Seems like a small detail, until "dang it, i need to get a welder too?!" Jeep bleedin me dry already, lol!
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Technically you could probably just leave it like that and not weld it. And never have a issue. But I just would rather be safe then sorry.
@1jimjiminy
@1jimjiminy Жыл бұрын
Nice job informative detailed very well done
@forgemientka3820
@forgemientka3820 Жыл бұрын
That was the longest intro I’ve ever seen 😂
@catchkcsglide7945
@catchkcsglide7945 Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Do you really have to replace the studs for the backing plate? Seems like the new bolts you got are a little long while the XJ studs seem like they wouldve fit.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Ай бұрын
Thanks. Yes the xj ones are to short. You can use the stock liberty ones though. For me the bolts ended being easier to track down in the small town I live in.
@TheSchmed
@TheSchmed 2 жыл бұрын
The coating on those eBrake springs is not resistant to brake cleaner, last time I changed mine, sprayed the eBrake clean, And I see bits of the color coating all over the eBrake assembly.
@scampervw
@scampervw Жыл бұрын
decent video except for the 1:30 of earbleed causing music at the start
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Yeah sorry. I did the editing on my phone and didn’t realize was that load 🤦🏼‍♂️
@colemandeitz7302
@colemandeitz7302 2 жыл бұрын
Dump music and the long entry
@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942
@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@metaldemon60
@metaldemon60 2 жыл бұрын
all you need now is to swap the ZJ guts into the proportioning valve. it is a direct swap.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
That’s my plan.
@nitrodspec6402
@nitrodspec6402 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! How did you set up your parking brake?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
I did something like the guy in this video. But unfortunately the go pro lost the footage🤦🏼‍♂️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM5npsZlqczJpp8.html
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
And Thanks
@carldietz9767
@carldietz9767 13 күн бұрын
How about hooking up your emergency breaks while your at it.
@projectbumblejeep4190
@projectbumblejeep4190 2 жыл бұрын
What about the parking brake parts and hook up? Did I miss that part? God bless and stay well.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
I lost the footage for that part unfortunately. But they do have a few good videos on KZfaq on how to do the emergency brake setup on the Liberty’s.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
And they do make a bracket for the XJ cable so you can adapt it to the Liberty ebrake setup.
@jrwebb2
@jrwebb2 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the bracket?
@Ikillintel1
@Ikillintel1 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great video and mod but you’ve gotta get rid of the music, I’m watching on Roku on my tv and your audio for voice and shop noises are way low and the music very high, so having to adjust volume up and down. 🤙
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input. On my phone didn’t realize that was a issue.🤔
@Ikillintel1
@Ikillintel1 2 жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 yeah, the phone will be a way different experience than the television. I only use my phone for commenting on videos.
@donalddday7741
@donalddday7741 4 ай бұрын
great sounding blown out speakers
@Dd-bk7rr
@Dd-bk7rr 2 жыл бұрын
Did you find a major breaking improvement after installing the disc's? On a scale of 1 to 10 how likely would you do it knowing the cost and benefits?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely better. I didn’t do the ZJ proportioning valve yet. That should improve it even more. As of right now how it set’s. I would say it’s a little better then drums. I mostly did it because needed all rear brakes any way. And this wasn’t much more money then just replacing the drum brakes. It makes things much easier in the future for brake replacement.
@ZekeMaster85
@ZekeMaster85 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mannnn. Thanks!
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZekeMaster85 Thanks. No problem!
@kevinkibler2181
@kevinkibler2181 3 ай бұрын
Locktite on those backing plate bolts... no?? Or are those locking nuts?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 3 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly I used nylon lock nuts.
@jasonlessard2373
@jasonlessard2373 2 жыл бұрын
How’d it go bleeding the brakes? I ask because you have the calipers on the wrong sides, which puts them upside down. Kind of hard to get the air out when the bleeder is lower than the hose.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Bleeding went fine 🤷🏼‍♂️
@jasonlessard2373
@jasonlessard2373 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, a more accurate question would be how’s the pedal feel? Soft, spongy? It would appear to bleed just fine because the fluid would come from the hose and run right out the bottom bleeder of the caliper it’s supposed to push the air out the top. Working in the brake and chassis field for 20years I’ve seen it many times, it’s a common and easy mistake. Just flip the calipers side to side and you will get a measurable improvement in brake performance. Other than that, good job! I was never impressed with the ZJ brake swap. Good to know there’s another option. Also, all the videos I see on disc brake swap fall short of addressing the hydraulic equation. The stock master cylinder was designed for the small diameter wheel cylinder, not the large surface area of a caliber piston. Also disc/drum systems have different front/rear proportional valves than disc/disc systems. I wonder if the Liberty master cylinder and proportioning valve would work? That is! If it has one? It may be integrated into the antilock brake module? Which opens up another can of worms. I would have liked to see how you did the park brake. And I agree with the other comments about he intro music. Too much, too long. Almost clicked off. But now I’m a subscriber.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlessard2373 it does have a little soft pedal at first. So that’s probably the issue🤔. And most guys run the ZJ proportioning valve. I plan on trying that out.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlessard2373 And I haven’t hooked up the emergency brake cable yet. Trying to figure out my best option. Some people will use the stock XJ cable and just wrap it around the ebrake lever on the liberty setup. But I don’t like how that looks rigged up.
@jamoser95
@jamoser95 2 жыл бұрын
​@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 let me know what you figure out for that that's only thing keeping me from doing this being I have a manual
@Motoman714.
@Motoman714. Жыл бұрын
You dont need to install the emergency break shoes do you? I dont have them? And you might wanna change your proportioning valve
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
No you don’t have to install them. And I put a ZJ spring in my XJ proportioning valve.
@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942
@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942 Жыл бұрын
Badddddd azzzzzzz
@cousin_JACK
@cousin_JACK Жыл бұрын
Hey dude, I see you’re a pro, what would you recommend this for an 88 Comanche on d35 ?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Won’t work with the Dana 35. Your best option with that year is doing a ford explore 8.8 rear axle swap with disc brakes.
@cousin_JACK
@cousin_JACK Жыл бұрын
Right on, I will start looking for one for a swap in the future, thank you
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
No problem
@WAEMIDIV
@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын
​@@cousin_JACKit absolutely is possible on a Dana 35, NickInTimeFilms has a video on it
@cousin_JACK
@cousin_JACK Жыл бұрын
@@WAEMIDIV thanks dude. Big fan of your channel, I’ll go through his library of videos. Thank you. I need to get my pops Jeep off jackstands It’s been on stands for a year
@mateuszkusmierz223
@mateuszkusmierz223 6 ай бұрын
What about wheel centering on the axle?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 5 ай бұрын
The wheel centering is the same as far as I know. Never seen a issue with this swap.
@agustinhidalgo405
@agustinhidalgo405 2 жыл бұрын
What proportioning valve would u recommend.??
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Most guys use the ZJ spring in the XJ proportioning valve.
@1jimjiminy
@1jimjiminy Жыл бұрын
I only saw a link for the left brake hose did you use two left brake hoses?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Whoops my bad www.ebay.com/itm/155104574986?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=pcVVEXylRS2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=GlPkWaaTRX-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@1jimjiminy
@1jimjiminy Жыл бұрын
Oh no worries my brother thank you so much I figured it out I am in ASE certified Master automotive technician and I don't think I could have done a better job on the detailed description and the quality of your work I'm thoroughly impressed keep up the good work man
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
@@1jimjiminy Thank you!
@miked5789
@miked5789 4 ай бұрын
Is it the same parts for the Dana 35 & Chrysler 8.25??
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 4 ай бұрын
This mod will not work on the dana 35 as far as I know. I believe you have to use the jeep ZJ rear disc brake parts if I remember correctly.
@abrahambarkhordar5572
@abrahambarkhordar5572 4 ай бұрын
aw man the ebay links dont work anymore, do you know where I can find all the stuff?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 4 ай бұрын
It’s basically all Jeep Liberty rear disc break parts other than the ZJ break lines.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 4 ай бұрын
Oh and the studs are front Jeep XJ Dana 30 studs.
@mitchellswass2066
@mitchellswass2066 5 күн бұрын
Which baking plate did you use?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 4 күн бұрын
Jeep liberty. It’s all jeep liberty parts. Except the hoses those are off a Jeep ZJ.
@bgrey55
@bgrey55 Жыл бұрын
Heyy did you install the emergency brakes. It looks like you skipped the Ebrakes.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately lost that footage 🤦🏼‍♂️
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
But basically it’s the same steps as putting the liberty ebrake together. Other then adapting XJ cable.
@davidgrant3940
@davidgrant3940 2 жыл бұрын
I have sold hundreds if not thousands of “disc brake conversion kits” on a well know forum. For the money, just get an Ford 8.8 with discs from a junkyard & be done.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
This didn’t cost much more then replacing the drum brakes that needed replaced anyway 🤷🏼‍♂️.
@cgtanker74
@cgtanker74 2 жыл бұрын
Will this swap work on a factory xj dana 44?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe so.
@RippSnortin
@RippSnortin 2 жыл бұрын
Bolt on? Is there a weld on option?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
They make universal weld on disc brake kits I am sure you could make work.
@rustedoutwrench
@rustedoutwrench 2 жыл бұрын
where you located I'm in the Houghton Hancock area
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Petoskey MI.
@jamoser95
@jamoser95 2 жыл бұрын
crazy you can't buy the backing plates
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
You can. But they are Mopar parts and are super expensive.
@Dodsonmonty
@Dodsonmonty 2 жыл бұрын
How much for the front grill and headlights?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Not for sale
@robertweinstein6441
@robertweinstein6441 8 ай бұрын
Does this support maintaining abs
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 8 ай бұрын
No
@ky0611
@ky0611 Жыл бұрын
What color red did you use on the Calipers?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
@j002cd www.ebay.com/itm/350870094577?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=LRMjuD6oRLe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=GlPkWaaTRX-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@ky0611
@ky0611 Жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 awesome Thanks!
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
@@ky0611 No problem
@robertweinstein6441
@robertweinstein6441 Жыл бұрын
What year liberty’s are candidates?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
2003-2007
@robertweinstein6441
@robertweinstein6441 Жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 ty
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
@@robertweinstein6441 your welcome
@davidgangano6011
@davidgangano6011 3 ай бұрын
Will this work on a Dana 44?
@codyw.3928
@codyw.3928 Ай бұрын
im curious about this too
@nickbarrett3607
@nickbarrett3607 2 жыл бұрын
Total cost if ya don't mind me asking. Lapeer Michigan
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Under $250. I got the liberty backing plates for $50 off Facebook market place. That was the hardest thing to find. Everything else is just factory liberty brakes parts. I bought new of eBay and rock auto.
@nickbarrett3607
@nickbarrett3607 2 жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 nice not bad at all definitely would be worth it.
@jmm66351
@jmm66351 Жыл бұрын
My jeep xj 99 Rear have abs sensor I can do that? 🤔
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Probably not with out the ABS light being on and not working.
@jmm66351
@jmm66351 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@robertweinstein6441
@robertweinstein6441 Жыл бұрын
Does this work on a Dana 35?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
It does not. Only the 8.25.
@robertweinstein6441
@robertweinstein6441 Жыл бұрын
What about the e brakes?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately GoPro lost that footage
@abrahambarkhordar5572
@abrahambarkhordar5572 21 күн бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 what cables did you use
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 20 күн бұрын
@@abrahambarkhordar5572 factory XJ e brake cable
@code_xj
@code_xj Жыл бұрын
Does this work for a D35
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no.
@bryanmercado8755
@bryanmercado8755 2 ай бұрын
That line touching the plate for the u bolts feels sketchy
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Ай бұрын
If you look closely. It is not actually touching the y bolt plate.
@allenwatkins4972
@allenwatkins4972 2 жыл бұрын
Way too much music.
@justinterepka9885
@justinterepka9885 4 ай бұрын
Rip headphone users...
@LittleMikeStarCraft
@LittleMikeStarCraft 2 жыл бұрын
the audio mixing is terrible its peaking and blowing out at 1% volume.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
New editing software. Didn’t realize that issue tell after I uploaded. I will keep it in mind for next video.
@Justdigit2
@Justdigit2 Жыл бұрын
You forgot something....?? Where is the E-brake?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
Lost that footage unfortunately
@Justdigit2
@Justdigit2 Жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Ahhh that explains why... It's a one simple fit over the original?? Thanks for the video.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Жыл бұрын
@@Justdigit2 if you look up how to install ebrake shoes on the liberty same steps. Only thing thats different is making the XJ ebrake cables work with the liberty ebrake setup.
@RAYROTHSTEIN66
@RAYROTHSTEIN66 5 ай бұрын
I don't need the 2 minute intro of you guys wheeling, get to the point.. and will they fit 15" alloys?
@moeshiner156
@moeshiner156 2 жыл бұрын
I got a comment. Im a 35 year+ mechanic and have a 99 Jeep Cherokee XJ, lifted with Patagonia milestar tires (Nice Tire!),etc. The problem with drum brakes is....nothing. You have to the education to make them work properly. Most people dont have a clue how to use spring tools or adjusting spoons. Its too hard, i dont know how to do them, Oh i wish i had rear disc brakes. Screw that. I redid my system with new Shoes, Springs, hardware, Drums and Adjusters. My brakes work so good id place 100 bucks in a stop in the shortest distance contest with anything in my Jeep class or otherwise. My 1988 Trans Am GTA doesnt stop as good as my Jeep. They are cheap to fix and easy to upkeep. Drum brakes work just fine. Period. Jeep On people!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously you don’t live in Michigan. Was sick of dealing with the self adjusters seized up from rust almost yearly. And drum brakes hold mud if you actually off-road your jeep. If drums worked so great. Why did almost every manufacturer do away with them?
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
And FYI i passed my ASE certification in brakes. So I know how to properly maintain drum brakes.
@moeshiner156
@moeshiner156 2 жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Easy now partner. I live in the state of Maine. Plenty of ice, snow and mud here. I do off road it and have no problem cleaning out my drums. It was a comment, not a personal attack on you. I like Drum brakes you dont. I wont comment again. Sorry you are offended. Jeep on.
@moeshiner156
@moeshiner156 2 жыл бұрын
@@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 Roger that. So did I.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@moeshiner156 sure came off a little negative.
@johnadams8371
@johnadams8371 2 жыл бұрын
KL > XJ
@jeepndave
@jeepndave Жыл бұрын
Your audio between dialog is way too loud!
@jeepndave
@jeepndave Жыл бұрын
Sorry, not as bad as I first thought. But the opening audio was too loud.
@markythelarky6948
@markythelarky6948 2 жыл бұрын
Dude!!! For God's sake cut that intro out! Not only is it loud and distorted, it also lasts way too long. Were I not super interested in this, I probably would have clicked off.
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326
@northernmichiganxjsoverlan3326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Still figuring out this KZfaq thing. And first video with this new video editing software.
@killkrazy9913
@killkrazy9913 2 жыл бұрын
you can fast forward... not sure why you find that so challenging and calm down
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