Cast Iron Toilet Flange Removal/Replacement - 100% Pure Pain

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Cast Iron Toilet Flange Removal/Replacement - 100% Pure Pain | Oatey 43539

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Thought replacing your toilet was a piece of cake? Yeah it usually is, but then you uncovered the dreaded cast iron flange. I show you how I removed mine. God speed.
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@kencrisp6333 Жыл бұрын

I think you'll find it much easier and infinitely cleaner if you just drill a series of closely-spaced holes directly into the lead with a drill bit, around the entire pipe, then chisel-out the lead. Clean-out the loose lead pieces by hand and vacuum the rest of the debris with a wet/dry vac with a HEPA filter, preferably. You can then pry-up the old cast iron flange fairly easily at that point. Using this method contains the lead material to just the area around the toilet drain pipe instead of shooting it all over the room(s) with the grinder. The grinder will still be needed to flatten the top of the cast iron pipe, but at least all the lead will be removed by then. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the Oatey 43538 and 43539 closet flanges have reduced openings due to the inclusion of the 3 screws that expand the seal. I wonder if those screws are also susceptible to causing solid debris to cling to them. Not a good thing, especially if you have kids who flush toys or Pixi Sticks down the drain. For those reasons, I think I would opt for the "Twist-N-Set" models 43650 or 43651 instead, since there are no screws inside of those flanges.

@Bootstrappin Жыл бұрын

You speak words of wisdom. I agree -- drilling would be a far less messy and toxic process, and I too wondered about those screws in the Oatey, they do seem like they'd cause trouble down the line. I'm pinning this post, very helpful!

@christopherkoch4983 24 күн бұрын

I just id it exactly like kencrisp said. took me 4 hours and 4 drill bits...

@artummomenti3147 4 жыл бұрын

Other videos: "I am going to explain every minute detail for the first 10 minutes.... now try to find Part 2 " or "No explanation what so ever" Your video "I just did this". Thank you. The world needs more youtubers like you.

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that, thank you! I just make things with the idea that from the viewer's perspective, they're often times already deep into the project and hit a major "oh shit" moment.

@jcesario7937 4 жыл бұрын

After spending hours on youtube , I finally found the best cast Iron Flange replacement video that has all the info I need. Thanks for the help

@SailingWindGypsy 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it's not this one.

@timkr66 4 жыл бұрын

You are brave sir! I have a 1950's ranch with the same bathroom issues. We found the same cast iron flange with lead bend when removing the toilet. I did not dare break into it without knowing how much work it could be. You have convinced me that it was way too much work to tackle.

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it really is about picking your battles. The amount time and money I spent to fix it myself... perhaps a plumber truly would have been worth it in the end.

@judegerace8096 3 жыл бұрын

Just came by to say thanks for making this video. I spent hours chiseling away at the old cast iron flange. Your suggestion of tapping from beneath was genius and within 1/2 an hour the flange came off!

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it helped! Big respect for tackling this, it's not an easy one.

@andrewsimon5437 4 жыл бұрын

this guy's commentary is legendary

@jdcisneros9023 4 жыл бұрын

For real shit had me rolling

@javaTL 3 жыл бұрын

Great job! I can imagine this being one of those "this morning I plan to replace the toilet flange... should only take about an hour!" ... 12 hours later and a few trips to and from the hardware store... "Whew!".

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly, it escalated very quickly from "I got a working toilet" to "I may have to use a bucket outside from now on".

@hwiech89 4 жыл бұрын

This makes me feel better about replacing one of the toilets in my house...I was foolish enough to buy a 120 year old home. I feel like I'm rolling the dice every time I take something apart after generations of idiotic repairs.

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's also my biggest gripe... The older the house you buy, the more the weird DIY stuff stacks up

@snackpup 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin i bought a house built in 1958 and was cleaning the bathroom today. i got to the tub and when i finished there was water all over the floor! so i mop it up and pour the bucket in the toilet and flush...................the water is coming from under the toilet!!! so i take off the toilet and there it is, cast iron and old black wax!

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

@@snackpup oof yeah that sucks, but at least it's letting you know. That's why they say to avoid caulking your toilet, or you'll never know there's a problem. Godspeed!

@zeleanon 4 жыл бұрын

Was only trying to fix my wobbly toilet, but found the best comedy/explanation here. I died at 3:04. RIP.

@wes11bravo 3 жыл бұрын

I'll be starting this very job in 12 hours, replacing my 100 year old crapper with a shiny new Kohler Highline Arc! Oh, I found an Oatey 43539 at a "Do It" Hardware Store. Probably more expensive than ordering it on the line but you know, Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death. Subscribed to your channel primarily because you're a smartass as am I.

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, godspeed to you. The 100 year old crapper is gonna have 50 bonus years of petrified shit, gunga, and rust accumulated in it. Hopefully the cast iron pipe hasn't rusted shut yet. It might be a very mighty job to undertake, so I hope you have a back up toilet, because I sure wish I did when things quickly went south. And thank you, there will be plenty more smartass comments where that came from!

@travisk5589 4 жыл бұрын

I started watching this video and thought, "oh fuck. What is this guy doing? " But then he salvaged it with a solid repair.

@user-yc3ny8rm5x 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! One of the most articulately explaned videos i've seen!^^

@jasonzupke1474 4 жыл бұрын

1.) Tighten bolts back and forth for even pressure. 2.) cut off bolts with a hack saw because it’s less messy and leaves a cleaner cut. A grinding wheel sends sparks and dirt everywhere. 3.) Avoid caulking a toilet, but if you do leave a gap in the non visible areas to allow to breathe.

@itsjiraheta 4 жыл бұрын

3:05 DIY with a humor twist... love it!

@andruandu7632 Жыл бұрын

This is the second one for the basement bat. kzfaq.infoUgkxOuLt8IL_GxhhaK8DBuKEL-zV0UJVpWZn , works great

@user-tb8id1go1k 2 ай бұрын

New cast iron Flange - then lead and oakum, pack the joint. The I.D. of the pipe is back to it true diameter.

@apriljohnson421 Жыл бұрын

Great video! 👍

@arm7543 3 жыл бұрын

My god, the man is right about taking everything out of the bathroom that you care about. I only had to take about a quarter inch off of the cast iron pipe that was sticking above the floor and it coated everything in a 20' radius in soot. I also noticed that the particles became magnetized and were sticking to my recent drywall work but only very obvious at the screws. I thought it was pretty cool at first until I turned around and looked at the enameled steel bathtub I installed. Do yourself a favor and try to contain the soot and cover anything you care about or anything that's metallic.

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

And such a great point! That's the sucky part, it's incredibly sticky and very very abrasive, you'll place deep black scratches even if you try to wipe it off. Guess we both learned a lesson!

@arm7543 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin Yep! I've learned about 1000 lessons since having to strip my bathroom out including foundation work. I used Goop, the abrasive hand cleaner, and a lot of elbow grease and it did the trick with the instant rust that built up on the textured tub bottom for the most part. Sooner you get at it, easier it is to clean. Walls are still a mess but hoping it will come clean.

@evenflow3256 4 жыл бұрын

You are a go getter. This dog will hunt ❤💛💙

@johnakaoldguy3158 3 жыл бұрын

I hope the bolts to seal the flange to the pipe are strong enough for years of people crash landing on the toilet. You didn’t secure the flange to the floor itself. That will wiggle loose in time and you are back at the beginning again.

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

You're not wrong. Unfortunately there was nothing underneath left to screw onto, tried using some long concrete screws sideways, not the best. I then caulked most of the toilet but left the rear exposed if it decides to leak, but at least it doesn't move.

@borys444 5 жыл бұрын

Yes I love it...DESTROY!!!!

@ChristianMercadoAcevedo 2 жыл бұрын

good video, thanks!

@anthonytaylor5398 3 жыл бұрын

You are my favorite

@SKOMPAS 3 жыл бұрын

Wow 5 to 600 dollars a year in extra water bills, I live somewhere water is completely free damm

@MAGAMAN Ай бұрын

Just because you don't get an explicit water bill does not mean the water is free.

@paulkrascenic9666 3 жыл бұрын

Man your toilet looks like “cmon sit down I give you cholera “

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

If that toilet could wink, it would

@culley711 4 жыл бұрын

I'm freaking out man. I decided to be brave and replace my toilet and I pulled it off to find an OFFSET cast iron flange that is broken and badly fixed with one of those 1/4 stainless steel pieces like you used. IDK what to do! Do they make offset versions of the Oatey flange you used? I'm having no luck dude. The pipe is WAY too close to the wall. With the offset, it's 12" from center of the offset pipe to the wall so I have to replace it with an offset. Any advice appreciated!

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm that's a tough one, I'll have to research in the morning. For now probably best to put everything back as best as you can and rethink strategy. Off top of my head, can you cut off just the flange part and insert the regular Oatey?

@culley711 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin Wow, thanks for the reply man :) Good ideas. I've got 2 bathrooms (not to flex) so I can take my time with the fix. I'm redoing my half-bathroom. I don't think I can cut it off and use the regular Oatey because the offset is like a 45 degree angle inside the pipe There's not a lot of vertical space. I found a flange repair thing by 3D Pluming Products on Amazon. $30 and I'll see if that works when I get that in a few days. If not, I'll return it. There are no offset flange things by Oatey for cast iron, so if I have to replace the flange I'll probably have to get a plumber to come do an oakum & lead repair like it's the 1800s! DIY is fun but also wack.

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a plan, and it's a huge relief to know you've got two bathrooms lol. If the flange repair doesn't work and if this is on the first floor and you've got basement access, I'd probably just cut the cast iron from down there and convert to PVC.

@kellenhileman 4 жыл бұрын

regular toilet reviews

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Someone send this to Roman and Brian, they've started a movement

@kellenhileman 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin just found your channel on r/diy and I'm watching all of it and subbed lol 😂

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

@@kellenhileman much appreciated! My latest video represents the content format I'm looking to do in the future -- more thoughtful/voiceover type

@kellenhileman 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin I think if you keep that up your channel will really grow

@rustyshackelford9156 3 жыл бұрын

Same issue, leaded in cast iron flange. Is there no way to break or cut off the top part of the flange, till it's flush with the pipe? And just use one of those compression flanges? Thereby leaving the leaded in joint in place. Do you absolutely have to remove the old flange?

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

I think you bring up a good point. Don't quote me on this though. If you can remove enough material just off the top, the compression flange should be able to slip right inside the pipe - the main concern is just making sure that your toilet is flush with the floor. I guess before you start doing any (or too much) of the demo, see if you can slip in the Oatey.

@rustyshackelford9156 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin thank you for the reply. I'm hoping that will work...I think it will but idk. I'm worried about the breaking the pipe. I'll have to be careful. Mine is a basement toilet so the pipe goes down into the concrete. Wouldn't be good to break it. Thanks again

@rustyshackelford9156 3 жыл бұрын

So I finished up the job, it wasn't too hard to remove the leaded in cast iron flange actually. Maybe because my pipe was set in concrete. I hit what remained of the flange a few times with a hammer and noticed it loosened up. Then i just carefully worked the flange around with a hammer and pry bar and it came off the pipe without too much fuss. But i think in a pinch you could definitely just cut the top off and use a compression flange over top. The compression flange is pretty neat and works well. I used the type with a screw in rubber gasket. I found it easier to remove the gasket, place it inside the pipe and then screw the plastic flange into the gasket. Not too bad of a job overall. Thanks for your vid and advice, just wanted to update in case anyone was interested. So many times ive come to youtube in a near panic trying to figure out how to put something back together that i took apart. Take care ya'll

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

@@rustyshackelford9156 nice, great job on that. Glad it went relatively smoothly, and that's a nice trick.

@AsadAkbar1 4 жыл бұрын

How long did it take to remove the flange?

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

4 hours, but it was my first time doing it and I made a lot of mistakes. If you come well prepared, maybe 1-2 hours.

@user-gx8qt2qf8j Жыл бұрын

Get a four inch whole hog put it in between the flange and the pipe it will remove the lead

@BHM_Exploring 4 жыл бұрын

You could replace the flange and the wax rind and replace the parts in the toilet tank that's the issue this new glacier Bay is going to be worst than this the old one and don't use rubber seal it can get moldy I few years the wax ring lasted about 10-20 years

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm good to know, didn't know about the mold issue. But so far, the Glacier Bay has been good to my ass.

@BHM_Exploring 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappinif I were you I would replace it with Kohler cimarron and put the wax rind and not caulking that's will fix the issue the company glacier Bay make the mouth pretty small which it cause to clog easier

@leeb.7188 4 жыл бұрын

Could I have that old t-shirt?

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Deal!

@mikeso5963 4 жыл бұрын

How about leave the flange there, sand it to the level, then install the plastic flange on top of it?

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

I'd avoid sanding because that might kick up a lot of lead

@mikeso5963 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin thank you. I face same problem, I cant take the rusted flange out

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeso5963 you could try drilling just one hole from the top of the flange, then beat the devil out of it with a chisel and heavy hammer to try to split it open.

@darrenfoleymusic3336 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. What is the intro song?

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

Sure thing! Just something I recorded.

@karunald 2 жыл бұрын

I can never find any instruct on what to do if you want to remove a toilet and turn the bathroom into a closet or so....

@Bootstrappin 2 жыл бұрын

That's fairly uncommon most likely. Just off the top of my head though, the first thing you'd need to do is find a way to seal the sewage pipe - or else it'll reek! Then, you'd either have to redo the floors, or find the exact tiles they used and kind of surgeon them in, but not before putting a thick piece of plywood down over the (sealed) sewage pipe for structure.

@karunald 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin Yes - the tile floor is already up and we need to repair some rotted ply. The toilet is confusing me tho and my handyman seems a bit puzzle about it also. Read something about a rubber cap with tightening band on it - that pressure can build up in the system an blow it out? LOL IDK why but I read that. There's just SCANT information on 'permanently' closing a toilet. handyman suggested concrete but he seems perplexed on the concept as well. Which makes me nervous.

@Bootstrappin 2 жыл бұрын

@@karunald the rubber cap is *probably* fine, but it would make me nervous as a permanent solution. Assuming you have a cast iron pipe, you have three options that I can think of: 1) thread the inside of the pipe, and screw a cast iron cap into it with pipe dope 2) traditional iron pipe joining is done with oakum and lead - what you could potentially do (since making threads requires very specialized tools), you could buy an iron screw in cap of the right diameter, grind off the threads if needed, then stuff oakum in there, followed by molten lead - see this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNRzqqaZuKjVdnU.html 3) just weld a piece of metal in to seal it

@karunald 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bootstrappin yipes. All these options sound like a big deal. Maybe I need to find a REAL plumber. Thank you.

@mikebillot5221 4 жыл бұрын

# Burzum

@Bootstrappin 4 жыл бұрын

This flange install is 100% Varg approved

@bentcn8511 3 жыл бұрын

I hate metal now

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

@fifafan1 3 жыл бұрын

Ok so i need an angle grinder now..

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

Great tool to have

@johnnyjunior4716 3 жыл бұрын

The closet flange needs to be screwed down to the floor. The pressure from The compressed rubber That keeps the ABS flange With in the cast iron It's not enough to keep the toilet down. Eventually The Flange will become loose....

@Bootstrappin 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I kind of ran out of options and skills doing this one -- there just wasn't enough material around for me to screw into. I probably could've poured some concrete around it, but honestly don't know how to fix this. The surroundings around the pipe were cut too much.