BOSS RC-505 MK2 First impressions | I cannot play my songs on it. Moving back to MK1 until updates.

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BreZ

BreZ

Күн бұрын

Guys. Life is not about GBB and doing rounds for battles. I need to play my current songs for shows, but with the MK2 it simply is not possible since it is not ready for sale yet. Oh wait... This is still a prototype and BOSS is releasing an unfinished product on the market. This is what happens when you rush things in order to increase your Christmas sales.
0:00 Introduction
0:45 First positive impressions
1:50 Let's see some FX
3:48 They got rid of this knob?!!!
4:18 The importance of Mic Input
5:22 Another use of Mic Input
6:37 Saved by assigns ?
7:17 They killed the Roll FX ?
9:16 They killed the Steprate also.
11:06 The Robot too...
12:33 How the new Steprate works
14:05 Final thoughts
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@PSn505
@PSn505 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to diss the mkii along with u, BreZ.
@Shawzy808
@Shawzy808 2 жыл бұрын
Legend
@mask3284
@mask3284 2 жыл бұрын
I feel your frustration PSn... For a hardcore single-device user like you, working with this machine with limited time must be hard.
@Appleloucious
@Appleloucious 2 жыл бұрын
Would you kindly share with us what you and others are thinking about the lack of a mic volume knob? The first moment I saw the MKII I found it kinda strange tho having far far faaaar less experience than you all I thought I might just be stoopid XDD Now after hearing BreZ telling us how he is using the MKI especially in a live environment it seems even more strange they omited the mic volume knob : o Many thx in advance! One Love!!
@15_subhajitghosh19
@15_subhajitghosh19 2 жыл бұрын
SO!! we getting a collab? If so, that'd be epic
@waynesilverman3048
@waynesilverman3048 2 жыл бұрын
Just use the 1st one for korg ect
@Bruno_ACES
@Bruno_ACES 2 жыл бұрын
At GBB- Brez: “how controversial would it be that you win with a machine that is not released yet.” Rythmind: “bro, you have no idea what i'm going through.”
@KBAMusic
@KBAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I actually thought this while in the crowd
@ryanborges0
@ryanborges0 2 жыл бұрын
@@KBAMusic hahahahah
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Haha tbh, it does amazing things, I did things with this machine in a few days that I will never be able to do with the MK1. The problem is, I have upcoming shows, and it would have been nice to have my current songs on the MK2 and possibly upgrade them. But it's just not possible.
@lifeisoverrated7167
@lifeisoverrated7167 2 жыл бұрын
@@KBAMusic did you had to be all positive with the machine?
@KBAMusic
@KBAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisoverrated7167 ?
@SXINBeatbox
@SXINBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Im so disappointed too man.. thanks for the honest insights tho!
@yous62
@yous62 2 жыл бұрын
Sxin, is it the reason you dropped out of KBB?
@ameerhazim9495
@ameerhazim9495 2 жыл бұрын
@@yous62 i think he dropped because he wanted to focus on GBB, i believe he didnt received mk2 yet back then
@avora282
@avora282 2 жыл бұрын
@@ameerhazim9495 that's what most people think/assume but if I remember correctly in their very first KBB loopstation reaction he explained that he dropped out because he couldn't do his routines on the MK2 because it had so many bugs so he decided to drop out because he didn't wanted to do rounds he's not happy/proud with
@yous62
@yous62 2 жыл бұрын
@@avora282 Oh ok, thank you for that information 👍
@ameerhazim9495
@ameerhazim9495 2 жыл бұрын
@@avora282 ahh, i didnt know that, thanks for the information
@MrWobbles
@MrWobbles 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, it almost seems like they missed their audience of loopstation beatboxers and are focusing more on musicians like myself who use instruments/etc... The input knob alone is such an important way to mix live, incredibly weird they decided to take that out. I can control the input of stuff on my instruments or through a DAW but for people who try to just use the loop station alone that's such a freakish oversight. They've also decreased the audio quality of alot of the software vsts their using in the mkii it seems, step rate/phaser/robot all are so bad. All while making them way more difficult and not as user friendly. It's super unfortunate and I'm hoping they update it with the people who made this loopstation as popular as it is in mind...
@ras_krystafari3333
@ras_krystafari3333 2 жыл бұрын
Came here after hearing your rant released a few minutes ago. Wild, makes me want to find a 1st one on a deal asap
@KBAMusic
@KBAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
We told BOSS a lot of these things, that if they wanted to release this product that serious changes needed to be made. Is it an upgrade? yes, but we're talking about a device made back in 2013 compared to 2021, of course it should be better. As for not being able to play your songs, I had the exact same issue for a lot of mine, I wanted to bring my GBB and KBB wildcard for GBB, but I could not make them sound the way they're meant to sound on mkii (RIP TAPE ECHO). With a new device they're gonna update a lot of features and that means they might change effects that we've been accustomed to. My only suggestion unfortunately is to stick to Mk1 for tracks you've made, and Mk2 for new tracks, unless you wanna change how the track sounds.
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
And that's exactly what I am going to do. I'm just a bit mad that they released the prototype you guys had for KBB. It's full of errors, it freezes, crashes, doesn't work properly. I don't care so much about my songs at the end of the day, my MK1 is there for that. But it's so unethical to sell people a machine that is not ready to be sold.
@KBAMusic
@KBAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox Completely agreed. Us KBB participants were promised an updated Loopstation once it came out (along with a 1000$ voucher but they forgot about that), but its very disappointing to see that the version everyone is getting is basically the product.
@nanthipat1
@nanthipat1 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, love you both
@KBAMusic
@KBAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@PSn505 narrator: It was
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox Freezes and crashes? Seriously... how often and under what circumstances? Curious about details regarding that please. Sound overload, etc?
@MixFX
@MixFX 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video BreZ!! it was really enlightening for me that just bought an MKII and waiting on it... now i know what to expect. Let's Hope the brand works fast on an update! Big up to you :)
@KBAMusic
@KBAMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I will say (after having seen the video), the mk2 was always going to be less user friendly. For example, yes the filter steprate has changed, and you won't be able to get the exact same pattern that was previously possible. However, you're capable of making a completely unique filter pattern that's never been used before (why the trumpet sound in my R4 vs Mirsa is possible). Does it take time? Definitely, and the amount of customization will make it less user friendly. But these complex options are what will allow the Mk2 to compete with second devices. Also you can make extra c o n t e n t by remixing all your previous rounds with the mk2.
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's what I had planned to do initially, make new songs with the MK2. But for example I just wish that I could at least play my MK1 songs in shows without bringing two loops with me. Also, the steprate is just not a random thing that I put like that on my TFX. I knew exactly what I wanted for Girls Like or Criminal as steprate on the filter, and unfortunately now, I tried for hours, I just couldn't find it.
@singhaujla3243
@singhaujla3243 2 жыл бұрын
This means that Rythmind Killed it with mk2 but i dont know why he lose against frosty can u plss tell me
@NoodleFlame
@NoodleFlame 2 жыл бұрын
@@singhaujla3243 Probably because he had to use his best songs against Brez
@Andrew17B
@Andrew17B 2 жыл бұрын
@@singhaujla3243 he had to use his best song against brez (the person above me also said this), but also, Frosty still had to use his best round against rythmind to win, which is imo why frosty didnt win the finals. my final before GBB even started was Frosty vs Dice and i had Dice winning. and tbh, if dice didnt have problems with his mixing as bad as he did, he wouldve won against chris, and i know bizkit was confident as fuck going in, but hes not beating dice if dice brings his best to the table im sorry. for me, dice is still the best looper in the world (sad that we wont see him for atleast 2 years now)
@athaya1588
@athaya1588 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew17B well what you said might be true about bizkit not beating dice but itll be a close battle for sure
@yashkiran8329
@yashkiran8329 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you are putting each and everything in front of us bluntly... And it actually makes sense because there are lot of loopers who will buy blindly just because it's an upgrade you know? Without knowing anything about it so, I appreciate how you are helping the community in this way. 🙏
@davidholmes6013
@davidholmes6013 2 жыл бұрын
The input change makes so much sense during the elimination rounds and the kickback it seems like people had issues with their vocals not being loud enough to come over their beat.
@TheHumanSoundSystem
@TheHumanSoundSystem 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaah I knew it. THe rc 505 had loads of bugs and loads of people complaining at the beggining, I waited and was happy when i got mine and even happier when they released software v2.0 so this will be a similar and perhaps more drawn out story. this is crazy man. i will keep my 505´s for now so thanks for the heads up
@droppin_a_deuce4860
@droppin_a_deuce4860 2 жыл бұрын
Hey brez, knowing this community and knowing how positive we are, I have faith that next year an update will be release for the mk2 because they will listen to feedback from those such as yourself with a platform. I’ll be here to listen no matter if it’s mk1 mk2 or mk1000. You’ve got talent and skill my friend so keep at it!
@gabriel_loops1323
@gabriel_loops1323 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this explains why Rythmind was on those knobs like 24/7 during his rounds...
@Lodus_music
@Lodus_music 2 жыл бұрын
If you are a begginer looper, and are debating getting this device i would say yes, because you can still learn as updates roll out. If you are someone that is experienced in looper or has a had a 505 mk1 for a signficant ammount of time, it might be worth the wait. But i still bought one anyway, and have been happy with it.
@steveibo
@steveibo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feed back 😀
@zombbies
@zombbies 2 жыл бұрын
i don’t have a loop station yet. you think i should get the new one? probably getting one for christmas 👍
@Lodus_music
@Lodus_music 2 жыл бұрын
@@zombbies Yes i would get one, because many of the issues that loopers are having with it right now, you probably would not notice. Apart from the occasional crashes, and the loop-station updater not working 🤷
@f4b14n_bbx6
@f4b14n_bbx6 2 жыл бұрын
It's great that you educate us, please keep the information going for all people who want to buy one
@AVH_BBX
@AVH_BBX 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunatly it still needs alot of updates. Would be better if they just waited for everything to be developed properly. Its an issue with more brands these days. Money making is more important..
@Andrew17B
@Andrew17B 2 жыл бұрын
for the step rate thing, i like that they added advanced settings to it to allow you to better personalize your effects. BUT i do agree with Brez here, in that its not user friendly at all unless youve been doing audio engineering for a while. i think that they (in a future update) should add in a basic step rate option, that you can toggle to override the advanced option. that way the people who loop MK1 can still do their tracks and add on, and by extention new loopers can actually learn wtf theyre doing. but also now that you have that toggle, the people who will nerd out over every little detail (i sort of fall into this category myself) have that option as well to do so.
@zitozentinel
@zitozentinel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this insightful and detailed review !
@Munar739
@Munar739 2 жыл бұрын
I was planning to buy the mkll during christmas but seeing alot of these faults may make me hold off until the future, this does give me more respect to the kbb participants who had to figure out the machine and use it so well
@taylorig
@taylorig 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I'm the kind of person who never upgrades on release. I prefer to let everyone else put up with the bugs. I'll stick with my MK1 for some time yet.
@meachyofficial
@meachyofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts. I almost just purchased an mkii. I'm glad I waited now.
@MariaCalfaDePaul
@MariaCalfaDePaul 2 жыл бұрын
Well I totally am happy I watched your video I actually got the mark 1 last January from my husband for Christmas. I could never spent that on myself and so I was thrilled because I have wanted one for many years So I used it with my own way and I know I haven’t utilized all the features but one thing that I always use is the input knob That alone is a deal breaker for me I was feeling bad that less than a year later they do an update but after watching your video I realize that I am just happy to have the one I always wanted !!! Good luck to you. I hope they update it soon
@pelvins1jamz
@pelvins1jamz 2 жыл бұрын
Great honest review from one of the best loopers !
@fleshtonegolem
@fleshtonegolem 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. The lack of immediate access to mic level is the dumbest thing you can do. ANYONE who uses these units will want to be able to adjust that on the fly. It's pretty obvious the person who made that decision was not a user of the device for looping. I won't be buying one for this reason alone.
@BarryGrueter
@BarryGrueter 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty and thank you for sharing 👍
@SuperEssenceOfficial
@SuperEssenceOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my mk1 for like a week now and I'm just coming to the conclusions myself that I need to use the input level knob to control to my mix quickly. I'm glad for the confirmation that you do this too.
@flrn84791
@flrn84791 2 жыл бұрын
Click Enter, and you have the mixer on the MK2
@baha_sarko
@baha_sarko 2 жыл бұрын
wow let's Go 🔥🔥❤ the device has some problems in effect and in the beginning when you need to update it some people had to disconnected it from electricity but it's normal in the few days ,months it will be better and better with updates ❤🔥
@PeterGarofalo
@PeterGarofalo 2 жыл бұрын
thanks , i was about to sell my mk 1 & my RC 202 , which is a spare, but really i don't use a lot of the effects that much as I'm a multi instrumentalist & i don't think I'll be doing all kind of fiddling around. I'm a live musician & i use the RC 505 as a backing track, saves having a drum machine & i create my tracks on my Kronos, to save carrying that heavy beast on gigs. So what benefit is the mark 2 for me ? ? I did a one time miudi the 505 & the 202 , I think I'm going to try that again.that gives mr 7 tracks & 2 stereo inputs YEAH YEAH Excuse my long comment , I found this video very valuable, saved me some money too, which i'd lose selling old gear to buy a new one. You're a gifted musician & you will get over this glitch. thanks again , you helped a fellow musician.
@ray_of_music
@ray_of_music 2 жыл бұрын
Thx voor your honesty! Sometimes we want things to be better so bad…it’s a shame. Let’s hope for an upgrade. The Mk1 is cheaper now, that’s a benefit 😇
@joepaige7553
@joepaige7553 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Still thinking of getting one. Has there been any improvements with firmware at this point?
@bartomiejwykrota4073
@bartomiejwykrota4073 2 жыл бұрын
It is a great video, you just opened my eyes cause I was going to buy the mk2 but now I see that I should wait a little. I have one question. You said that it needs an update, so it can be somewhat updated like an android app? I am not sure if I understand correctly.
@kokerbeatbox
@kokerbeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this video BreZ. It was very usefull.
@shmueltiko5689
@shmueltiko5689 2 жыл бұрын
BTW, tnx for the extra tips on the mk1, very useful!
@Doministry
@Doministry 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's good to have more control over all the parameters of the effects. I think it's great.
@strangesevin
@strangesevin 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I need something like this as well so far your video is help full for what iv been wondering
@__siddop__4152
@__siddop__4152 2 жыл бұрын
lol, I was planning to buy this but I think I should buy MK1. thanks for the honest review bro you saved my money. learning a lot from you :)
@masaizamuya4477
@masaizamuya4477 2 жыл бұрын
I was patiently waiting for this review... I am not going to buy this one now... But to make it worse ...you can't buy the mark one either...they seem to have withdrawn it... I've checked various on line shops ... NADA... At least you've got your mk 1... I am instead going to buy the Akai Force...which suits better the kind of music I want to produce... Thanks for your review...you have saved me some money... I had 2 minds about buying a looper in the first place, but when I saw the pre launch publicity ...it sounded great... because they talked about the auto tuner, and harmoniser...but what you showed today it sounded crap...so thanks brother... ONE LOVE one mother earth...
@planzed463
@planzed463 2 жыл бұрын
That drop with the step rate is really cool 😎 love it!
@iansin7722
@iansin7722 2 жыл бұрын
the thing about the mk2 step rate is that u have to set EACH AND EVERY STEP BY YOURSELF. i’ve tried it and yes it works and it’s flexible, BUT ITS SOOOO TEDIOUSSSS
@gameftw698
@gameftw698 2 жыл бұрын
would you be able to explain what exactly step rate is? coz im pretty lost about the whole thing lmao I dont understand what im doing when im setting a value for each step
@sebataktrzeba.2430
@sebataktrzeba.2430 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this 2 day ago and I m so happy with this machine every day com better and better
@TheNimasan
@TheNimasan 2 жыл бұрын
thank you soooo much i was so close to buy it. so im gonna wait. i actually watched the sonic state review but they didn‘t talk about all these. i wanted the looper to controll my modular.
@khasabi
@khasabi 2 жыл бұрын
I actually knew this will happen and thats why im buying an mk1 asap beacuse we all saw that it works fine. We will need some time for the mk2 to develop...
@possaa
@possaa 2 жыл бұрын
So... i have a couple of questions and just wanna make sure that i am not a lopper or a knowledge looping person... I didnt understood why its a problem that u cant export the songs from mk1... isnt all live sounds? So why is this a problem? And also this is the biggest one... I am going to buy a loopstation next year and was waiting for the mk2... for a begginer looper, do u recomend which one? If i use mk2 i would have trouble to manually change all the things... giving like timi issues for composing? But also buying mk1 would bring more expensive shit later like helix... Big up bro, pls if u cant reply this!❣🔥🇧🇷💚
@Ricardoromero4444
@Ricardoromero4444 2 жыл бұрын
I work in tech and "We need this by christmas" conversation is too real.
@melodywave3
@melodywave3 2 жыл бұрын
It only screws the consumer over. I hate that music gear manufacturer's are embracing Video Game style crunch culture
@Raylative
@Raylative 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your pioneer work. Sad that we couldn't see u in Berlin :'(
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I hope this will be possible at some other date ! :D
@Raylative
@Raylative 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox We'll be waiting 💥😁🤫
@scnylz
@scnylz 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boi, im looking forward to this video. My issue(s) is/are: i cant even update the mk-ii. The version ist still 1.02 and if i try to update it to 1.04 it says „no-file“ on the updating screen. Some fx works differently, for example the roll effect doesnt work how it used to be on the mk 1 and i have the feeling that many fx‘s have some bug issues 🤔 Im not really happy with the mk 2 yet, but we‘ll see
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they released it too early. The MK1 came out with issues but at least you could use it properly. This one actually have a LOT of errors.
@scnylz
@scnylz 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox true! its very sad, i was really hyped about the mk 2, especially after the kickback battles.
@upon7even
@upon7even 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox Either with 1.04 ? I had no issues updating it and it seems to work ... talking as a novice.
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
@@upon7even Yep, even with 1.04 :/
@karelimants5102
@karelimants5102 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox Bonjour Brez, je viens d'en acheter un aussi (je l'attendais depuis des mois). J'espère que les problèmes sont purement liés au logiciel et peuvent être résolus par de nouvelles mises à jour ? Qu'en pensez-vous ? Merci
@muntaftw1825
@muntaftw1825 2 жыл бұрын
:( rip. well atleast the king is back at mk1 :v gd luck brez on your journey ,hopefully mk2 gets fixed and better with time..so you can reach a new lvl ..wooff... cheers
@TKsPhoto
@TKsPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video. I was exited to hear from you how is the new mashine. Uff i have not expect this issues right now. I should comes out the next days, and check the price. its almost twise the price of the MK1 and have this Probs...i guess i buy the mk1. And its... that you can't play your traks on MK2 as well as your workflow..
@haujobbperfect
@haujobbperfect 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Software on it seems to be still in development.
@PSn505
@PSn505 2 жыл бұрын
2:24 and i took that personally
@yous62
@yous62 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@juanarribas7774
@juanarribas7774 Жыл бұрын
Hi @BreZ, regarding the input nob "by hand" on the mk1 (very important as you say), do you think the mk1 is still more manageable for live performances than the mk2 taking this into account? After having tested the mk2 for a while, do you think this is already a minor problem? I'm going to buy a RC 505 and I don't know if I should choose the mk1 or the mk2. I want it for mic and piano. Can you help me? thanks
@gaithouri
@gaithouri Жыл бұрын
thanks for the review.... how does headrush seems to you ?
@johnnyrocco123
@johnnyrocco123 2 жыл бұрын
I see your point with the input level knob, but a outboard mixer would help tremendously
@smitty9054
@smitty9054 2 жыл бұрын
I got it preordered and there is no turning back lol i also have the mk1 🙌 best of both worlds
@r.a.r8829
@r.a.r8829 2 жыл бұрын
I'm more curious because I've been beatboxing since 2016 but I never use rc-505. So I still think for a newer looper like me MKII will be more worth it than previous generation of loopers.
@Dafey
@Dafey 2 жыл бұрын
Setuju bang, menurut gw emang lebih bagus buat looper baru mk2 ini, karena track yg dari mk1 gabisa di buat sama di mk2 jadi lebih bagus buat hikin track baru yg emang cocok sama settingan mk2 nya.. gw ga punya mk1 tapi gw udah beli mk2 dan dateng hari ini, gw bakal coba” juga sih gimana
@evanbelcher
@evanbelcher 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is crazy. Especially for a *live* looping machine, you can't make changes that make tasks take longer. Like for the step rate, I think the developers were probably thinking "you can achieve the same sounds on the mkii that you could on the original" but that's not good enough. Everything is time-sensitive
@MimicusIM
@MimicusIM 2 жыл бұрын
I fixed the problem of not having a dedicated gain knob for mics by adding a little yamaha mg06x mixer, but yeah, I don’t get why they didn’t add it. There’s a free space for it on the left side for 2 knobs.
@shivanshporwal6975
@shivanshporwal6975 2 жыл бұрын
hope boss fixes the issues as soon as possible
@SelfPropelledDestiny
@SelfPropelledDestiny 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for truly displaying what features aren't working for you. Some people have simply just said "it doesn't work!" but then don't take the time to show what isn't working for them. I heard that the time-syncing aspects are also a little different, and that you always have to have a count-in, which would be more annoying for guitarists and other foot switchers. Though, maybe these people just haven't found the proper setting? Also in regards to your songs that you can't play on the mk2, you may just need to record the affected audio you want from the mk1 as a .wav or something, and then upload it into the mk2 as a user sample loop. I know it isn't the exact same because you lose some of the live element, but maybe you could find another part or effect to use in conjunction with it, so that you have even more going on, or just relax and realize that an audience generally doesn't understand nor care how much "real work" you are putting in in an electronic live set. People pay tons of money every year to see people play tracked music off their laptop.
@Mr.M1STER
@Mr.M1STER 2 жыл бұрын
I seen on IG that Matej also had an issue where he spent 3 hours on a track and the machine froze or went into some sort of error mode and he had to switch it off.
@milzmusician
@milzmusician 2 жыл бұрын
Even mk1 does that too sometimes haha
@jadelaide
@jadelaide 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in a dilemma. I want to invest in a loop station. Should I purchase the MK1 or wait for the MK2 early next year? I'm a total novice, but, I want to give this a go as I like challenging myself.
@haujobbperfect
@haujobbperfect 2 жыл бұрын
I'd wait it out honestly. Mk2 is a the next gen. Mk1 is 16bit audio also. If you do want a mk1 I am sure some are going to pop up cheaper as well soon.
@jadelaide
@jadelaide 2 жыл бұрын
@@haujobbperfect That's my thinking as well but, the frustrating thing is that I do not go back to work until end of January. MK2 won't come out until Feb/March...
@haujobbperfect
@haujobbperfect 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadelaide Depending on budget, maybe look for some people selling their mk1's? I'd guess they'll go for around 300?
@jadelaide
@jadelaide 2 жыл бұрын
@@haujobbperfect Cheapest in Australia I can find is $799 AUD...
@haujobbperfect
@haujobbperfect 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadelaide Bottom will fall out of mk1 market soon. But location is a thing. In the US we are looking at months
@WIVIDofficial
@WIVIDofficial Жыл бұрын
Thank you brez for the mic assign
@thisissami
@thisissami Жыл бұрын
hey @BreZ - have the several updates that Roland has released since this video fixed any of the issues you brought up? I'm considering upgrading to a 505 (I have a 202 right now) but am cautious about the mkII given all the various videos like this...
@notmk6962
@notmk6962 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I just bought the MK2 yesterday, so this will be interesting.
@crazy-4-cooking
@crazy-4-cooking 2 жыл бұрын
I would just try to circuit bend it and add a mic input level pot. there might be some space on the area it used to be. Imho a MKII should have all the MKI has, plus new stuff, overhauls, better user friendlyness. NEVER minus old stuff. If you take away stuff, then change the model name or release another "edition" like mini/stage/composer/whatever, but NOT a Mark 2, which stands for the SAME thing, but 2nd, improved and revised batch. A MKII also has to be 100% downwards compatible with a MKI in all cases, so if there is memory exchange on whatever MKI it should sound the same, if transfered to MKII (plus more modifications if wanted).
@Appleloucious
@Appleloucious 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Bredda many many thanks for sharing your honest thoughts and experience with the MK2! So glad someone spoke up about it. Guess the ones who got one for free are bound by some NDA or smth. to play nice... I would send it back and put that 619€ in ETH. By the time those lazy fecks brought us all the FW updates needed you'll prob. got at least one free MK2 in ETh ^^ One Love
@thelabby9998
@thelabby9998 2 жыл бұрын
Btw it’s usual with Roland stuff… it took some years until fw update on mk1 put some “must have” options and bug ironning. Said that take loopy pro also as same “mindset” but almost you pay for “one year fixes” and keep the app. Then you could pay a “year upgrade” without lossing what you get for the initial price. Mixed getthegoodsnotrealsubscription model which seems fair to me. Big hug mate!
@Damnkage
@Damnkage 2 жыл бұрын
Brez I was wondering can you fix it temporarily with putting like a mixer before the Mic input? So you can control the gain of the Mic via the mixer knob
@IIeTpOc9H4uK
@IIeTpOc9H4uK 2 жыл бұрын
Yo man, thank's for being fair. You are the only one so far!
@senfdazunet
@senfdazunet 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever sent the video to the bosses of "Boss"? I would be very interested in a statement from Boss.
@ROBOZHAN
@ROBOZHAN 2 жыл бұрын
It is totally manual for pitches like in the MK1 there are note numbers pre pitched but with that step rate it will be impossible to find the note number
@frankliebe
@frankliebe Жыл бұрын
hey your Video shows as best what is wrong with MKII - question: is that issues are solved with the current update available firmware right now ? best regards, Frank Liebe
@schluuri172
@schluuri172 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Boss/Roland Move :D
@philippelelong2101
@philippelelong2101 2 жыл бұрын
For your problem with the roll effect: you have to press the button after you make the sound and you do it according to the timing value you set. So if it's set to 8th notes you'll say "ts" on beat 1 and press the button on the one and. Hope that helps.
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
I know, it's what I said in the video lol. Thanks anyway ^^
@philippelelong2101
@philippelelong2101 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox nevermid then. And yeah, it sucks, the way it worked on the mk1 is way more intuitive and actually doable if you set a very short time.
@markaerobat9271
@markaerobat9271 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that losing the volume control is not great. How about using a mic with a volume control such as a harmonica mic. Some examples are: Blowsmeaway - Ultimate Series Audix - Fireball V Would this work for your songs?
@vatsalgaur3550
@vatsalgaur3550 2 жыл бұрын
Well i am looking forward to buy and this kinda clears up a lot of things for me too, should i possibly wait to buy it?
@Lodus_music
@Lodus_music 2 жыл бұрын
Nah ,if you buy it now there may be some issues but you can still learn and adapt while updates roll out
@vatsalgaur3550
@vatsalgaur3550 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lodus_music oh ok thanks!
@1234DLTS
@1234DLTS 2 жыл бұрын
First off let me say this I am very inspired by your talent with the rc 505 mk2 and I am contemplating buying one in a few days your videos I am watching for reference to quality and I was sold until I heard this video and I am still watching rn the part i am at you are spraking on the importance of the microphone input knob I say why aren't you using a pre mixer before the rc 505 mk2 input instead of plugging the xlr directly in as you have it that way you can control and monitor the gain on the input easier on the mk2?
@mylez1218
@mylez1218 2 жыл бұрын
"But Guess What Very Smart Move, No More Input Mob" SO WE'RE SCREWD
@iaminokami381
@iaminokami381 2 жыл бұрын
I did not plan to buy a mkII anytime soon, but damn... On another (serious) note: do you still feel comfortable organising the upgrade battle when knowing that the winnable prize might not be what we/the contestants hoped for?
@PSn505
@PSn505 2 жыл бұрын
Good question damn
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the machine can and will have serious updates so if contestants don't want a 600 euro prize, that would be strange haha
@iaminokami381
@iaminokami381 2 жыл бұрын
@@BreZBeatbox Fair enough^^
@markaerobat9271
@markaerobat9271 2 жыл бұрын
Got my MK2 today and tried to find a solution to the mic gain issue. One thing that worked really well was to do an ASSIGN of the TR FX KNOB to MIC 1 LEVEL. This gives a really fast way to adjust the mic gain but you loose the TR FX KNOB function. A longer term solution is for BOSS to modify the way the knobs work in the mixer. I don't know why they require turning the knob 100 times to reduce the level to zero. A 180 degree sweep of the knob should cover the entire range. For finer resolution you could push the knob in. This would be an easy mod for BOSS to do.
@wolf-vh-personal
@wolf-vh-personal 2 жыл бұрын
Yo thats the winner right there though, implementable with software and theyre already halfway there in the wrong direction!
@adrienroum8599
@adrienroum8599 2 жыл бұрын
but there isn't a mic 1 level? i think?
@VtinMusic
@VtinMusic 2 жыл бұрын
For Christmas, I’m actually getting the mkI because already that is almost too expensive. And getting the new one will 1000$ more expensive. This video helps me feel good about that choice.
@zombbies
@zombbies 2 жыл бұрын
where are you buying the mk1?
@VtinMusic
@VtinMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@zombbies idk, but it's here and i havn't tried it
@grzzl
@grzzl 2 жыл бұрын
hey, thanks for the vid! may i ask if your rc505 mk2 also constantly freezes ("system error lc 2762, 1320 etc) and can''t handle to be a midi-slave? i'm unsure if my unit is defective, but ATM it is almost impossible to work with. even if I save/write (and execute) loops/projekts, the rc crashes, i need to restat the unit by unpluggin the power supply - then reload the same projekt - but nothing is saved - even if the prject was written more then two or 3 times (this "unit freezes and you need to restart and all saved loops are gone" happens so often - i save actually all the time and i am always unsure if it will be saved after the next crash. yeah and this midi-thing is unbelievable.
@modernizedesigns
@modernizedesigns Жыл бұрын
What looper should I get? Have they fixed the mkii? Should I get the mki or another looper? Thanks!
@Pauluz_The_Web_Gnome
@Pauluz_The_Web_Gnome 2 жыл бұрын
This MK2 is really bad...software is broken...Mic Peak is gone..I am so glad that there are people like you giving your opinion before I buy it...Thanks!
@natancopeincraft
@natancopeincraft 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody, has there been any updates at all for the first one since it came out? This would be great. It would be great if some of the effects we're improved or had more options to them. Boss should have focused specifically on the effects on this unit, and it seems like they really rushed it. There are a ton of compressors, but only one reverb, chorus, flanger, etc.
@mmhcreates
@mmhcreates 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty sure there was 1 update, and it allowed for all 3 fx to be used at the same time.
@MiHa1Love
@MiHa1Love 2 жыл бұрын
tell me which parameter is responsible for displaying the duration of the track. You recorded a track that was two measures long, and the red ring went around the loop in two full turns, not one long one. when I write a track: if its duration is two bars, then the red index goes through only one circle.
@reverbpoint2374
@reverbpoint2374 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for that video. Use both in same time )
@jefflistner4516
@jefflistner4516 2 жыл бұрын
It brings me such pleasure to hear your loyalty to the mk1! You’re such a pioneer on the original 505 and I really don’t want to see you transition to the mk2. Keep it OG bro, nobody comes close to your signature sound
@lesgo_ok
@lesgo_ok 2 жыл бұрын
But when he has master it, he becomes BreZ 2.0
@nanthipat1
@nanthipat1 2 жыл бұрын
every day I'm free I'm looking forward to seeing you I want to see you make a cover of Last One Standing for the soundtrack of venom 2. It seems to fit your style. But it might be a little difficult. 😂
@pannpower
@pannpower 2 жыл бұрын
My RC-600 too. It has a error in some function and missing some function. I am waiting for Boss's update.
@remowo_
@remowo_ Жыл бұрын
thank you
@JoshuaDanger
@JoshuaDanger 2 жыл бұрын
Super disappointed in this upgrade. Unless I’m mistaken, I’m unable to assign Vinyl Flick AND Beat Repeat as Track FX at the same time. Am I missing something? Both of those effects are only assignable to the A button. I’m thinking about just sending this back.
@steveibo
@steveibo 2 жыл бұрын
As a newbie Should I give the mk2 a pass and try the loopy pro, I'm in two minds what to do as I'm not sure what to spend my money on don't want to make a mistake. I did like the mk2 at first but after watching Dub fx on KZfaq saying he won't be going back to the rc-505 after using the loopy pro has me in a delima. Thoughts please.
@lordofthe6string
@lordofthe6string 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have an mkii I'm just throwing theories around and I'm sure you've tried this, but regarding the filter steprate thing: My guess would be on the original it alternates applying and removing the effect at the rate you choose. So my guess for the mkii is choose the step rate, then for each knob alternate 100 then 0
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate. I did try it but didnt achieve to get the results unfortunately
@tablaninja
@tablaninja 2 жыл бұрын
Well shit. Just got mine yesterday. Interested to see the Loopy Pro app for iPad. Maybe with a paired hardware controller it could rule.
@happyrunner123
@happyrunner123 2 жыл бұрын
Ur so damn rite. I cannot wait the update. Do your job boss
@Pansho017
@Pansho017 2 жыл бұрын
Salut Brez, je suis dans la même situation que toi, frustré de ses bugs et petits détails qui font qu'on perd la jouabilité live. Sais tu si il existe une pétition ou un recensement des bugs pour qu'on puisse leur envoyer ? Un vrai truc sérieux à leur envoyer quoi. Si ça existe pas, on pourrait peut être se mobiliser pour le faire ? Bisous !
@alexhasnobudget
@alexhasnobudget 2 жыл бұрын
Brez does this mean you’re going to have to buy an updated version if they make one with the nobs they’ve removed? Cause that sounds a bit like a scam.
@BreZBeatbox
@BreZBeatbox 2 жыл бұрын
They won't make a version with the input knob unfortunately. That's hardware that they cannot afford to change ;)
@theaudioeng
@theaudioeng 2 жыл бұрын
Hi BreZ! Great initial thoughts vid on the Mk2 - so, have BOSS now fixed all these issues via FW updates?, as interested in this latest offering….. 😎🤘🎵🍻
@yannstehly1087
@yannstehly1087 2 жыл бұрын
Since second devices are allowed, maybe mk1 with mk2 at the side would be good
@Arterium
@Arterium 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Daisy-chain function MKI - MKII would be great. Anyone know if possible?
@mmhcreates
@mmhcreates 2 жыл бұрын
@@Arterium Apparantly it is not. Boss got back to me and said, if its possible it will be in the user manual. Which isn't very helpful, and I didn't see it in the user manual. Could just connect outputs of mk1 or mk2 to the Inputs of the other. Which is what I am considering, if I get the mk2.
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 Жыл бұрын
Have you made any videos with the MKII since the v1.2 (August 2022) firmware update? Is it still having issues?
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