Kyle is looking like a police officer without the shades. It’s must be the mustache🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm a beginner bowling in a league for the first time, and have never been able to pick up the 7 or 10 pin. After watching your video, I picked up a spare on both sides today! thanks so much!

Picked up a plastic ball a month ago and it’s taken a bit for me to get used to, but I feel much more comfortable at 10 pins. 56 yo, 14-15 mph, 350ish rev. I find I don’t have to change my release much which has always been an issue for me to be consistent. Good stuff, keep it up 👍

I've learned from these guys to throw cross-lane for the 10 & 7. Throwing flat handed with my regular ball. I now very rarely miss a corner pin. Thanks guys.

This was very well spoken. Especially about the pros missing and not changing because they know it works.

Standing on 35 and aiming at the 4th arrow for the 10 pin has been pretty good for me for decades, usually without much issue across different oil patterns. On THS, I rarely miss a 4 or 7 by hooking from the right by standing on 10 and throwing pretty much anywhere between 5 and 10 (I typically drift a little left on most of my shots), but other oil patterns get tricky for my 7 pin.

I've been trying in league to change the hook of my ball to pick 10 pins up for a while. I see other bowlers do it. But I think you guys have made me confident enough to try going straight. Let's see how it goes!

Some days I can't miss the ten-pin. And some days I can't hit it to save my life. Such is bowling.

Thanks for the video! Love the way you guys explained stuff. Definitely helps as I'm trying to improve my game.

Hey Brad and Kyle, thanks for the great information on making a 10 pin. I used to have a Black Beauty back in Georgia and was very confident with it for making 10 pins. However when I moved to Island City Oregon ( eastern Oregon about 4 hours from Portland and 3 hours the other way to Boise) I left it behind. Boy what a mistake. I’ve tried a few different 10 pin balls and currently using a Storm White Mix. Been pretty good with it so far, but after watching your video about opening your hand to a slight backup release. It makes sense and can’t wait to go and practice it before my next league night.

Great video guys!!!! This completely reinforces what I teach my high school and youth bowlers.

Think this is just what I need to see to become more consistent Dearing league thank you both and I subscribed. Hope some day I win one of y'all's giveaway. Now to the back of the line y'all given me a way to get my 7 pin with more confidence with the way you'll explain it thank you!!!

Great video, great tips. I use a plain old trusty Brunswick T-Zone for my corner pins and the 4 and 6 pins. It goes ramrod straight down the lane and since I'm a low rev/low tilt bowler, I don't have to worry about changing my hand position or my release. I want to eliminate as many variables as possible when shooting those pins, so it's always a safe bet.

I use a super weak wrist position (broken wrist). on dry lanes sometimes this is not enough for me because I do not have the flexibility in my wrist and arm to throw a perfect straight ball. So now I added a what some people call suit casing the ball with the weak wrist position. I don't miss the ten pin at all anymore. great video. Thank you for your time. Congrats on making it on Luis Napoles's top 5 you tube channel.

Thank you guys for this. I have gotten in my head and now missing the 10 more than usual. I needed to break down my game and build my 10 Pin shooting back up

I found this video very helpful!! Thank you very much!

So just wanted to check in and let you know the slight backhanded release has been working great for me the last 2 weeks in practice and league play. Im making close to 90% of the time now....thanks for the help!!!

I’m just starting to get back into bowling since my high school days. It’s really challenging because I’m ambidextrous. If I’m going against a right handed bowler, I bowl left handled, and Vice versa. Need to keep practicing until I’m ready for competition. 🤗

I’ve been getting better at making 10 pins more consistently, and I can make 7 pins a vast majority of the time if I hook at it. I’m still working on going straight at the 7 pin.

One topic that I’d like to see Brad and Kyle discuss in more detail is the approach on 7 and 10 pin spares, that is whether they recommend that one’s approach should be straight up the boards or more angled toward the target.

Good information. Thanks again Kyle and Brad 😂😂😂

I entered 💪🏽 love watching you guys, you two helped alot with bowling and understanding how to read lanes and how to throw my ball i could never figure out lol!

Great video. I don't have trouble with 10 pins but definitely good info to remember

Great video. Very helpful

I love your KZfaq channel it's so cool because you bowl and I love bowling

You said it, when I miss a spare that LOOKED like a strike, It definitely starts to get in my head and ruin my game. Especially when it's between two strike frames.

Great, informative video. Mostly confirmed that what I'm doing is right, so thank you for that. If I may make one suggestion, though, it would be to use a spare ball with multiple colors. That will make it easier to see how the roll is different with the slight backup.

Great discussion. Thank you 😊

Thank you! Great video, and very helpful!

I shoot left side spares using my strike ball, just slow it down slightly. For my friend, the 10...I use an old Hammer Nova (one of Carol Norman's tour balls). I use flat release cross lane with more speed and ball basically slides with maybe 6 revs.

Great video, thanks guys. I would love to see a video on a drill to learn how to throw the ball straight. It doesn't matter what I try, I always end up putting some axis rotation on the ball. I do use a plastic ball for spares.

That was great. Would love to see a video on picking up double wood.

Loving these videos

Big change for me, besides learning how to get the ball on the lane earlier and on the left, has been changing my finger position. Moving my index finger closer to my middle finger allows me to throw straighter and not worry about over-hooking and missing spares on the right.

Great tutorial, guys! So...how does Darren shoot spares with his strike ball seemingly all the time?

I was a completely straight bowler for most of my life (almost 60 now). I throw a reactive ball that hooks for my first throw now but commonly use my old straight ball that I have had since I was 15 for spares. For the 10 pin I move to the right and throw the ball straight along the edge of the gutter. I usually get it, sometimes that even works on the 6-7-10.🤔🤓🍻

They have good techniques. "Don't call me mustache.." I like your videos. Thanks Brad and Kyle.

I'd love to see a video on left side spares. I see a lot of pros stand pretty left and throw it straighter at those, whereas for right side they're as left as you guys are. Is that so they don't have to be so closed throwing to the left? Would you recommend standing as far right for a 7 pin as you would standing left for a 10 pin?

I used to be deadly when going for a 10 pin 20 years ago. I stopped bowling as much and practice became just what I could get in before league. I stand about the same place as Brad and throw 23. My 10 pin shot has become hideous! Always practice throwing at your 10/7 pin. There is an old saying "if you don't use it, you lose it." I'm very happy to see that I'm not the only one that throws a backup ball at the 10 pin.

Like the help on 10 pin pickup. I have had trouble picking it up. Hope to win a package soon. I throw a reactive ball all the time

Thanks, great video on an important topic. I miss your little theme song introduction, maybe time for a new one. Also, can we get a Kyle update. Great to see him off the crutches. We're all looking forward to seeing him throw shots with that killer release.

Love the video! Really appreciate it. One question. Do you guys ever find yourselves needing to adjust a board or 2 on some of the more extreme oil pattern lengths/volume? ie a 35 foot pattern or a 48 foot pattern? I usually creep a board or two left or right in this case even throwing a straight plastic ball. Not sure if that a mental thing or if the oil volume and pattern length can impact a good "straight" ball enough to justify a move. Thanks

Funny thing, I was told to have a lot of angle to 10-pin but third or fourth arrow works best for me... so as you said, I am sticking to that =) Maybe because I am righty with left eye dominant?

Are you walking up the boards or walking toward your target (righty going left to right for the 10-pin)?

I like your videos but can’t wait till bowling season begins. Video taping Inside the ropes during tournaments play is the best. Good Luck in 2023 bowling season.

I am def going to go up to the foul line and see how it looks from there as mentioned.

Perfect timing, today I actually started throwing straight at my 7 pin(righty) and it felt good.

I am now retired from bowling. My prime years were 1980 to 2000. It was a different game back then. I had been anchor on my college team for three years (shout out to my buddy Jeff Bellinger, who went from out college ranks to win a couple of titles) and I did get some decent coaching, but mostly my game depended on practice, practice, practice. That is the only way I was ever able to maintain consistency in my release and good timing in my approach. Both are crucial to being a good spare shooter, too. In my day, when there were 3 or 4 fewer strikes/game, spares were absolutely critical and I tend to think we were better spare shooters than today - mainly out of necessity. And spot on accuracy was essential too, coupled of course with good repetition. It was so much harder to turn around and make up for an open with a three bagger. Differences in equipment, conditions, and rules meant that averages were probably about 20-40 pins lower than they are today. (Believe it or not, up until 1992 the American Bowling Congress ONLY allowed flat surfacing. That is the oil had to be a uniform coating across the lane. As a result of that rule, and arcane equipment, A 190-average bowler in 1985 would be a 230-average league bowler today. Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, of the 50,000+qualified bowlers in my metropolitan area, the top ten bowlers would average in the 190s. Only three or four times in those 20 years did anyone average 200. And we had some pretty darn good bowlers - a bunch bowled regionals (including moi) and a few bowled on the tour for awhile. So we are talking some very good bowlers in the upper echelon. But the long-winded point is that I believe that the challenges made us better spare shooters. We had to practice spares (especially single pins) and bowl competitively at least three or four times each week to maintain that ability. If you didn't pick up 90% of your single pins, you could not average 190. The lack of strikes just took away so much scoring.

Hi guys . I'm from Iowa and am 67 years young. I bowl 2 times a week. I love bowling. I just bought a uc2. I love it.

Brilliant!!!!! Fun Guys

Actually. I would like to see a video of brad and kyle playing a game of low ball. It helps build up those spare skills.

I rarely miss single pins anymore, once i started using the KISS system, but last league night, on my last game, i missed the 10 pin 3 times in a row, which was super weird. Still managed to get a 200+ game on it, but i could have been so much better. I practice sometimes on hitting the 10 pin on 5 different places, like light on the left side, light on the right side (ball skids it and goes into gutter immediatly), full front, and medium left and medium right. So when it comes to boards, that is like board 8, board 1, board 3, board 5 and board 2. I set up my camera to film it, to watch later. Also making notes on what board to hit on the arrow, and where my PN is. By doing this, you also learn where to stand when there is a split like 6,7,10 or 6,8,10 and what to hit to make that split. I don't do this just for 10 pins, but all single pins. But yeah, as a righthander, throwing on the right side of the lane, the 10 is the one i leave standing the most

Great video! Thank you.

This vid was very helpful…..I have always had trouble with the 10 pin. This past Sunday, I was 10/11😮😮😮

I'm throwing a rotogrip Hyped currently. Looking for a bigger ball. Hook, carry, etc. 189 avarage. Advice? Recommendations?

I used to live up as far left or right for corner pins. But center proprietors don't always make sure you can slide on 5 board or 35 board. My knees already hurt and a dead stick doesn't help.

Thanks guys....very helpful....seen you compete....excellent. /thanked

Should just be a straight line from your shoulder to the pin. 1) setup with hand completely under ball 2) move index finger in and pinky out 3) swing with relaxed straight arm 4) follow through with pinky to the ceiling Ball will roll straight ahead. After getting used to it, can pick up spares without using anything but a rough look at the pin. What's really fun is throwing strikes with a straight ball off of the first few boards.

what an awesome video!

Thanks for helping

What board are you starting your throw at to consistently pick up the 10: pin

When I found out I had 25% to work with I switched from my reactive ball to a plastic ball. Before I was around 40% conversions on 10 pins, now I’m around 80%. Once you realize you have 25% to work with it becomes much easier. Just stay behind the ball and throw it hard. When you throw a reactive ball, you have to play the lane condition and if you are having a night where you are struggling to find the pocket and accuracy, throwing that as your spare ball would be a bad idea. Instead use a plastic and you take the lane condition out of the equation. When you take the lane out of the equation, you literally have roughly 25% to miss your mark. You don’t get that with a reactive ball.

Ive been making 10s for over 30 years more than missing,but when i moved my swing inside by slide foot from dropping arm straight in line with shoulder,i missed a lot. Now i tuck pinky,index finger tight to middle,ball low by my side and just swing it out to the edge through boards 20 and 25,less missed.

Good video guys. A couple of notes : 1) it may be 25% of the lane, but a miss athe the dots or arrows is magnified by the time the ball gets to the pins. So the room for error should not be measured at the pins, but at our target. 2) The last 2 shots : One was supposed to be at 15 and was at 20, and the last was where Brad said that he hits 23-24 as his best target for the 10 pin. And he hit 28. An important tip would be to help us identify WHY someone's angles could be fluctuating making him/her miss many 10 pins.

would have loved to bowl with you at Nationals, but just got back last week.

I think you guys should make a video on how to consistently throw the ball straight. I’ve been shooting my tens how Brad demonstrated for awhile and have been pretty consistent doing so. But I’ve had multiple friends who just can’t throw the ball straight; they get stuck in muscle memory of throwing the ball with hook. I have also found that following through with my arm straight up directly towards the ten pin helps tremendously in staying consistently accurate.

You would be benefited by practicing the 10 pin via second arrow or to the right when you have small centers that have the wall right next to the last board on the lane. Either that or you have to learn how to kick the wall consistently before the release

It's by far the easiest to approach from the left side of the lane and angle your shot to the right. The only thing that makes it a little tricky is the ball return being uncomfortably close on your left as you approach. I personally slow down my normal strike approach, as you don't need nearly as much power or finesse to just throw the ball straight. You just need to focus on your speed and having a smooth release right at the 10 pin. You only need enough speed to keep the ball from hooking back away from the pin. The only time I really miss a 10 pin is when it's a 100% mental mistake. Which can easily happen in a pressure situation.

Best thing I ever heard, especially with spares… if we had eyes in our shoulders, we would all be better bowlers. I don’t use a spare ball and I’m decent at flattening my hand to pick up spares because of that. When it comes to my spare shot , I try to think from my shoulder. I will literally hold my arm out in front of me pointing to the target when I set up on the approach to make sure my setup is decent. I’m not the best bowler, but my spare accuracy is much better just from that thought process. Hope this can help someone, especially if you are a straighter player or bowl straight shot

I use a plastic ball, go cross lane, and open up my wrist so I'm releasing the ball at the top. Goes pretty straight, so it's just a matter of hitting my spot, which is usually over the 5th arrow.

Could people use the 3-6-9 positioning? I can throw with reactive or plastic at the ten pin and on Sundays I bowl 2 leagues at a time. (One sanctioned other unsanctioned) My “main” league I use my spare ball and the other league I do not. I Make about 85-90% both leagues by jumping left 9 boards, (3 boards per pin to the opposite side) small sight adjustment, and take my hand out of it. (little backup when throwing reactive.)

Great Content

As someone who’s been bowling 2 handed for 3 years, I’ve found my best success throwing a plastic ball with no inserts, and focusing hard on getting as little revs as possible while trying to get as behind the ball as possible… even with a plastic ball, if I get around the ball at all, it just overreacts every time…

My son is 2 handed and flatten outs his hand and uses urethane to get his spares. He practiced by using a 500 pad on his least used reactive ball to get spares 1st then moved to urethane. He does so he gets to use his urethane ball as one of his 5 for junior gold.

I think this is good advice as a rule of thumb, but factoring in the oil pattern is a huge deal for shooting left side spares as a right handed bowler. If you're on a house shot, you have WAY more margin for error if you hook it and use the oil to your advantage as long as you're lined up correctly. Terrible idea to stand in the same place and hook it across a variety of oil patterns/houses, but on the same house shot every week, I'd actually recommend it.

When I learned to bowl in the early 1960's, I was told to point my feet at the spare, and walk toward the spare. Can you explain your footwork when shooting the 10 pin, and do you keep your right shoulder open as you do for a strike? Do you walk toward the spare? How do you swing your arm correctly if your feet are pointing straight down the 36 board, for example? I hope you will respond to these questions. Your answers can help a lot of players. Thanks.

For years I've said 'if I can hit the pocket and make 7 pins (lefty), I could be a good house league bowler. Sounds so easy 🙂

Ty best tip more blessing 👍👍👍👍

I have been a disaster at league the past couple of weeks. I'm going to try this. Practice has been great but missing spares is keeping my scores lower than they have been in a while

Great‼️

It is the dang ball return that gets in the way! When I am on the right side of the lane. It is so big it gets in the way of me moving far left. I am going to lean on it like you said to see if that works! Ugh!!

Kyle wearing that mustache looks like the 220 average bowler

I have a very aggressive hook and the only way I could understand how to hit that 10 was being told to straighten my thumb because I have a tilt even when I'm getting in my stance and I just make sure my thumb isn't pointing to 10 o clock and instead bring it to 12. I lose a lot of power but my accuracy is good

Can you guys help with older bowlers. I'm 55 and have a tough time with rev rate.

Good info…but what about throwing straight at the 7-pin?

Just to add to what they said...I stand 35 and target 16 but my ball is further from my ankle than these guys so that's what works for me. If I target 23 I'm hitting the head pin square on, maybe slightly brooklyn. So it does depend on each bowlers swing and like Brad said, trial and error until you find what works for you

Cool video talk tech bowling brad and Kyle

I wish I’d seen this video two weeks ago. I’m a leftie beginner. Two weeks ago, I knocked down nine pins and left the ten pin six times in one game. I didn’t pick up any of those spares and finished with a score of 115 (my average).

Kyle is def being casted for Grey Man 2 as Lloyd Hansen. In case Chris Evans doesn't show up 🤣

25% is a good point. I never thought of it like that. I know I have wiggle room but I didn't think about how much.

is the hand position really matter when we're taking spares?

I have found in many houses that if you move way left on the approach to shoot the 10 pin that it is more tacky on your slide and I see many bowlers stick on their slide and miss the 10 pin. I use the 15 board to be able to slide closer to the middle of the approach.

exactly my problem...over correction at release

I've killed my shot for years using my strike ball, my tip is to have practice sessions shooting at least 20 to 40 corner pins, get the work done, so you don't have to think about it when bowling your games. People are different, so looking farther out or looking shorter may work better, also, (and I've seen this for years,) someone leaves a corner, and because of tension of leaving it, they don't have the same swing or footwork, lol, timing is all off. It should look exactly like your strike body movement is. Lastly, some try to throw fireballs at them, like the pro's do, that might work, but realistically it throws the amatuer's ball off line, more so than not.

Their instructions are really helping me. Annette Jacobs

I practice with full racks during open bowling a lot. My rule of thumb is if I hit the 3 pin I missed to the left. Same with the 7 pin, hit the 2 pin on a full rack you missed.

How do you win the packages?

Entered. Hope to win. Could use the night road and some coaching.

What is the best way for me to learn to throw a curve ball in bowling

I definitely needed help with hitting the 10 pin…I can’t keep holding my breath trying to throw it in between the gutter & board 2 😅 I need a safer way & more space (I hit it about 78% of the time just almost passed out 1 time from holding my breath)