Britain vs The United States: The Other Great Game (Full Documentary)

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Old Britannia

Old Britannia

Күн бұрын

Between 1814 and 1960, the British Empire and United States engaged in a struggle for Continental, and then world supremacy. This documentary is a collection of earlier videos, slightly reworked, that aims to tell the story of how the rising power of the US was dealt with by Britain. It looks at the early years following the War of 1812, when both powers remained hostile, but the British Empire was globally ascendant. Then moves onto the rest of the 19th century, as British statesmen struggled to tackle the growing industrial and political power of the US in North and South America.
The documentary then looks at relations in the First World War, and how London's financial dominance gave way to Washington's. Finally, it deals with how America used this new power to, at times ruthlessly, drive what remained of the British Empire into the ground. But it is also a documentary of two powers turning from enemies to allies, even if doing so whilst maintaining suspicions of each other.
Patreon: / oldbritannia
0:00 1814-1846
14:33 1846-1914
30:58 1914-1922
46:15 1922-1941
1:04:45 1941-1945
1:32:05 1945-1960
#history #britishempire #unitedstates

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@OldBritannia
@OldBritannia Ай бұрын
I hope you enjoy this compilation of The Other Great Game Series. The original run took almost 18 months to complete, and my video making style has changed (hopefully improved) quite a lot since I first began. I've consequently reworked the first couple of episodes slightly, and added some more contextual information. Ultimately they are still not great as far as videos go in my opinion, but reworking them completely would just take too long. Adding to this, I have tried to fix the most glaring gaffes and mistakes from the original series, but again some things like major mapping corrections, would almost require me to remake the whole video. So apologies that there is still a dubiously bordered Confederacy, and misplaced British Guyana for the first half hour. Other than that, thank you for all supporting the series initially. Hopefully this makes it a bit easier to watch.
@WeirdMagnus
@WeirdMagnus Ай бұрын
Just wanna tell you you’ve improved a hell of a lot. You single handed reignited my interest in British history. Thanks a lot!
@jamesh4616
@jamesh4616 Ай бұрын
Been with you since 8k subs and despite a misplaced Guyana your content has been consistently excellent and some of the best history content on KZfaq hands down.
@jackbharucha1475
@jackbharucha1475 Ай бұрын
Beyond my appreciation of this series I also want to say I am so sorry to hear that Kate Middleton has cancer.
@jeffreyzervos6938
@jeffreyzervos6938 Ай бұрын
I definitely enjoyed it you pretty much prove that American hegemony over the world was pretty much guaranteed because we learned how to run a nation from Britain what's 400 years was the greatest power on the planet then once we realized we had enough land and people to even surpass the British empire which we did at the end of the 19th century like it was inevitable that Brentwood come to America with hat in hand like finance our wars this and that because Britain made the very poor decision to put its money on France which was a horrible decision I think of Britain would have tried its hand that actually securing a piece with Germany and actually working with Germany it would have definitely survived and we would be living in a totally different world
@tedbed1389
@tedbed1389 Ай бұрын
Love your content. Can you do something on Poland? Im curious about what you would have to say.
@crocodileguy4319
@crocodileguy4319 Ай бұрын
Yes, I think we all agree that the "playing greeks to the romans" quote is definitely absolutely 100% accurate, and because that quote definitely works very well, can't wait to see what the British Byzantine empire will look like, gonna be really hard for the writers to pull it off and make it believable.
@kaiserfred9596
@kaiserfred9596 Ай бұрын
"British Byzantine empire" 😞 please don't
@crocodileguy4319
@crocodileguy4319 Ай бұрын
​@@kaiserfred9596Gonna be a lit empire Lit because they'll reinvent Greek fire or something idk
@JuliusDofarios
@JuliusDofarios Ай бұрын
It was a traitorous betrayal of the Empire. It was treason and cowardice and by saying it did he make it true.
@Someone-vq6jk
@Someone-vq6jk Ай бұрын
"British byzantine empire" lol sure buddy
@primesonic4459
@primesonic4459 Ай бұрын
Its the irish
@James-dx8it
@James-dx8it Ай бұрын
I totally didn't just watch the 1814-1846 section before realizing it was all the previously released videos combined...
@GAarcher
@GAarcher Ай бұрын
*You did not, the video just was released 6 minutes ago dumbass*
@derrickstorm6976
@derrickstorm6976 Ай бұрын
Totally unrelatable yepp
@nathansyoutubeaccount
@nathansyoutubeaccount Ай бұрын
Thank you for making an in-depth video about an underdiscussed topic: the power competition between the US and Britain. In my American education, it was “America and Britain had tensions (embargo, 1812, various conspiracies) but then by WW1 things had smoothed over and the ‘special relationship’ sprang into existence”
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Ай бұрын
Same! This is far more fascinating and helps connect the pieces on historical actions and motivations concerning of variety of topics.
@nathansyoutubeaccount
@nathansyoutubeaccount Ай бұрын
@@robertortiz-wilson1588really what I’m learning is that the world wars and the resulting financial crunch Britain was under from them truly sank them as a global power. Other factors of course.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Ай бұрын
@nathansyoutubeaccount Yes, I know those factors to be well accepted.
@gman509
@gman509 Ай бұрын
THE US should of sided with Britain we would of had a much more peaceful free world than today
@Rildar
@Rildar 8 күн бұрын
same
@joeblow9657
@joeblow9657 Ай бұрын
Woodrow Wilson comes off as a massive jerk in this, and rightfully so. As well, Britain's agreement to naval parity with the US was based on the correct estimate that the US would never built up it's naval fleet to a sufficient amount under the treaty outside of purely capital ships. It was more of a strategic move to reduce defence spending than a fear of a naval race.
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 Ай бұрын
He's arguably the worst POTUS in history.
@st3pp3nw0lf86
@st3pp3nw0lf86 Ай бұрын
Wilson was a puppet put into place by the roundtable.
@supereero9
@supereero9 Ай бұрын
Wilson comes off as a massive jerk in so much of his policy, absolutely overrated president
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 Ай бұрын
@@supereero9 Dude was also a super racist that screened Birth of a Nation at the White House and funded a lot of those Civil War statues that everyone was making a fuss about (i.e. they were build in the 20s, not right after the CW).
@joeblow9657
@joeblow9657 Ай бұрын
@@careyfreeman5056Don't forget he segregated the US federal civil service
@MIKAEL212345
@MIKAEL212345 Ай бұрын
This series was really amazing. I especially loved the late 1800s to 1922 period. IMO, this period of history is so interesting cause the people are close enough to our own time that they are very relatable and understandable, but at the same time they are still super different from modern people making it really interesting. Any further back and the mindset of people is so foreign to me that it is hard to relate to and understand their perspective.
@EduardQualls
@EduardQualls Ай бұрын
"cause the people are close enough to our own time that they are very relatable and understandable" I feel that: my paternal grandfather was born in 1869 (his father had been wounded in the Corn Field at Antietam [1862]), and my father was born in 1912. Plus, for those of us alive in 1970, we are shaken now to realize that this year, 2024 is as far from 1970 as 1970 was from 1916. (My paternal-line family, as founding members of the Virginia Company, came from London to Jamestown in 1610.)
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Ай бұрын
1970 is equidistant between 1916 and 2024. So of course it’s as far. What were you expecting, time to stand still?
@two_motion
@two_motion Ай бұрын
"Wherever there is somewhere we want to destabilize, the British have an island nearby" - CIA
@MegaBaconMonster
@MegaBaconMonster Ай бұрын
Not anymore😂 thats why theres civil wars and disorder these days lol
@wilmanuts9954
@wilmanuts9954 Ай бұрын
Cannot wait to rewatch this
@GAarcher
@GAarcher Ай бұрын
*I will wait for some 10 minutes, since in the meanwhile I plan to entertain myself with this so called "gay pornography" that my friend has just told me about, as I can't wait more to see if that would be an interesting experience, do you know something about that "gay pornography", Sir?*
@BlameThande
@BlameThande Ай бұрын
Thanks for the compilation, this was an excellent series.
@SuryaKarthikeyan66
@SuryaKarthikeyan66 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the compilation. I only recently watched the series front-to-back but I suppose I'll have to rewatch it now.
@SuperWindsage
@SuperWindsage Ай бұрын
Love it. Thanks for the compilation.
@lordcommanderdire5113
@lordcommanderdire5113 Ай бұрын
How the United States engaged in realpolitik to destroy the British Empire - A Documentary. A fantastic piece from this channel, showing how all this frivolous talk of Special Relationships, brotherly love and democratic countries standing together against evil is nothing more than a mask to hide the real games that states play against each other. As a Brit, I doff my hat to Washington for it's brilliant execution of realpolitik on the global stage, and resent Westminster for it's foolishness in allowing it's global dominance to be undermined so succinctly and thoroughly by others
@varunrajesh6516
@varunrajesh6516 Ай бұрын
Closest thing the US has to a "brotherly relationship" (or more accurately big brother to little brother relationship) is with Canada. Canada has never been a geopolitical threat and most of it is culturally identical to the populated New England area of the US. And Canada punches above its weight economically and diplomatically (very high GDP and founding member of NATO) The US also has a special relationship with Israel though that's more of a parent-child relationship where the parent can't say no to the child. No offense to Israel but the US always interacts with Israel through noticeably softer gloves compared to other countries. I don't think any other US relationship comes close to these two.
@dolantho
@dolantho Ай бұрын
i’m sure india was happy too see it happen
@Karlach_
@Karlach_ Ай бұрын
Us Americans learned it all from you Brits.
@thermionic1234567
@thermionic1234567 28 күн бұрын
Sad. My family is from three of the countries of the UK and my impression has always been that you Brits are our kith and kin; and that the only real animus between our countries stems from what was a continuation of the English Civil; and that this time Cromwell’s victory was permanent - at least on this side of the Atlantic.
@Endwankery
@Endwankery 26 күн бұрын
The irony of all this is that Americas founding values were essentially British and we had far more in common than not. To this day most Americans draw their ancestry from England. I suppose we just couldn't end our quasi-cold war so long as Britain remained an empire and thus an existential threat
@natew.3865
@natew.3865 Ай бұрын
Fantastic video!!!! Very informative and enjoyable. Keep up the Great work.
@burger-iy2in
@burger-iy2in Ай бұрын
Fantastic sies, flows so well in the consistency of style.
@drksideofthewal
@drksideofthewal Ай бұрын
America ascended to the peak after dethroning an Empire that was both enemy and kin. It's poetic in a way.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Ай бұрын
An excellent video and historical analysis, ty.
@Luke-tq2iy
@Luke-tq2iy Ай бұрын
I was supposed to work on my dissertation this evening…. It can wait until tomorrow
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Ай бұрын
By far one of the most engaging series on KZfaq as far as I’m concerned!
@EduardQualls
@EduardQualls Ай бұрын
Simply one of the best history series, now compilation, available on KZfaq!
@ejdotw1
@ejdotw1 Ай бұрын
Superbly done. TY!
@BrandonLynchWatson13
@BrandonLynchWatson13 Ай бұрын
That was an amazing video. Great work!!
@petitchaton9677
@petitchaton9677 Ай бұрын
Loved the video, keep it up!
@jumpoutatree
@jumpoutatree 4 күн бұрын
This is one of the best history series on KZfaq. Very enlightening.
@sebbhubbard6722
@sebbhubbard6722 Ай бұрын
A superb video, I learned alot and am very impressed! In fact, I've only just realised that I've watched solidly until 2am!
@arndbrack2339
@arndbrack2339 Ай бұрын
A really interesting piece and relevant for the whole world as it seems to me. I don't come from the anglosphere and there are a lot of interesting hindsights - I especially enjoy your extensive depictions of the interactions between policy makers. Very very good!
@tomosjackson4760
@tomosjackson4760 Ай бұрын
thank you very much. A fascinating and comprehensive video covering a very interesting and far too unknown aspect of history.
@djackmanson
@djackmanson Ай бұрын
Superb. Thank you.
@LordBeauchamp1994
@LordBeauchamp1994 Ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing 👏
@bm8985
@bm8985 Ай бұрын
Love this!
@MustardAndFries
@MustardAndFries Ай бұрын
Time to rewatch all the videos I have already seen individually as a big video!
@ThomasBoyd-ex5vr
@ThomasBoyd-ex5vr Ай бұрын
Awesome. Well crafted on British Empire. Congratulations Well done.
@tomflynn8651
@tomflynn8651 Ай бұрын
As a British born American, this stuff is like crack to me
@andipandi9685
@andipandi9685 15 күн бұрын
Concise and informative.
@Gamenetreviews
@Gamenetreviews Ай бұрын
Excellent series
@mrmr-xb6dj
@mrmr-xb6dj Ай бұрын
This guy deserves way more subs
@richjg3049
@richjg3049 Ай бұрын
Great channel!
@suitableace1028
@suitableace1028 Ай бұрын
so well done. 🎉
@detectiveofmoneypolitics
@detectiveofmoneypolitics Ай бұрын
Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is following this informative content cheers Frank 😊
@maxt-pi5ky
@maxt-pi5ky Ай бұрын
Excellent
@nytoranryold767
@nytoranryold767 Ай бұрын
Superb
@kgman2635
@kgman2635 Ай бұрын
Love your videos man, are you going to cover the opium wars?
@OldBritannia
@OldBritannia Ай бұрын
Patrons have voted for a British Empire series in the near future so it will inevitably be covered in that.
@British_monarchist
@British_monarchist Ай бұрын
@@OldBritanniaa British empire series would be amazing!
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 Ай бұрын
"A monstrous ambition"? Gee, wonder where we got that from?
@crocodileguy4319
@crocodileguy4319 Ай бұрын
The new age Rome really is a spitting image of its father and grandfather 🥰
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 Ай бұрын
Like father, like son 😂
@vivekkaushik9508
@vivekkaushik9508 Ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@ducklinglibrary7941
@ducklinglibrary7941 Ай бұрын
I love this video, we just kept getting w after w
@blue3dress
@blue3dress 16 күн бұрын
This might be the most interesting video I’ve ever watched
@donovanwint-im2ql
@donovanwint-im2ql Ай бұрын
Among the best of the best Political History program on line.
@louisiananlord17
@louisiananlord17 Ай бұрын
Old Britannia, this video is a sheer masterpiece! Truly the Anglosphere evolved to change the world between the US and Britain. God bless the manifest destiny of British and American hegemonies ! 🇺🇸 🇬🇧
@ilFrancotti
@ilFrancotti Ай бұрын
Hats off, Sir. 🎩
@aprince1250
@aprince1250 16 күн бұрын
Great epsiode. It was very informative. One part that i was not previously aware of, was the US forcing Britain to end its alliance with Japan. Would it be possible for you to make a follow-up video on this detailing what effects, if any, it had on Japan deciding to ally itself with Germany and become more belligerent with China in the 1930s? I know that Japan was already furious at its humiliation by the Entente's refusal to treat it as an equal at Versailles after WW1, but i would be curious to see Britain ending its alliance pushed Japan away from any future alliances/understandings with Britain and the USA. Thanks!
@magicthegatheringlover4277
@magicthegatheringlover4277 Ай бұрын
Would you consider doing a series on British (and maybe France) relations with the Middle East in the 20th century?
@alpha-raygaming5252
@alpha-raygaming5252 Ай бұрын
Anyone else feel like a paradox mega campaign during this?
@AdmiralBonetoPick
@AdmiralBonetoPick 13 күн бұрын
The "Scramble for China" might make an interesting topic for one of your videos.
@canibezeroun1988
@canibezeroun1988 16 күн бұрын
The perspective on Wilson was one I never heard. It was absolutely brilliant and likely would have prevented WWII. I'm frankly shocked the German Empire didn't accept the deal.
@oliverwharf
@oliverwharf 12 күн бұрын
Something seemed off about your world map, it took a minute to notice, but it lacks the caspian sea.
@milanaleksic7678
@milanaleksic7678 Ай бұрын
The original Great game is Britain vs Russia,right?
@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733
@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 Ай бұрын
No. Its existed long before Russia and Britain. Its a game of thrones.
@kalanshwani4515
@kalanshwani4515 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't call it the original. The Great game between Britain and Russia was post-napoleonic hence by a small margin making the US-British great game the original
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 Ай бұрын
Yes.
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist Ай бұрын
Categorically, yes. Capital G Capital G, 'Great Game', is about Great Britain VS Russia in between roughly the mid 1830's and 1900 ish. Even then, there are complications (e.g. by the Boxer Rebellion of 1900, technically, the Russians and British were allies, alongside the other nations involved in that including Japan and the USA) However, Britain was still technically strategically at odds with Russia, not wanting Russia to gain a warm water port on the Indian Ocean or in the Western Pacific. They had fought wars in Afghanistan to prevent the very possibility (however unlikely) of the Russians paying of Afghan chiefs to gain passage to British India via the Khyber Pass) The British signed the Anglo-Japanese Alliance Treaty of 1902, because Japan was a (then) useful ally to counter Russian Imperial expansionism in Asia. Britain and Japan had a very good relationship since the 1880's if not earlier, and formally speaking, from 1902 to the mid 1920's. When Japan began to get a bit too big for her boots in Korea and Manchuria, as well as challenging the naval balance of power as agreed in London and Washington, American and British politicians began to get annoyed with Japan and the USA outright enforced a trade embargo. Britain and Japan parted ways as friends in the 1930's and by 1941 Japan attacked Britain. After that point, the British and Russians were ironically allied against the Japanese again, technically (although the Russians would not do much regarding Japan until a massive invasion into Japanese occupied Manchuria in 1945, the last campaign of WWII; and there, the enormous Soviet armies outnumbered a million man Kwantung Army defending the Japanese colony, over three to one; they were heavily defeated and the Russians had much more battle-hardened soldiers, as, for years, the Japanese military had siphoned off the best soldiers from the Kwantung Army garrisons to fight elsewhere against the Americans, British, Nepalese Gurkhas and Australians etc, only to find themselves denuding the strength of the Kwantung Army, which was largely left in a pre-war state of quality and equipment; and much of their aircraft and light tanks had been taken from them to fight elsewhere as well; meaning their squadrons and tanks were thinly dispersed and absolutely no match for the thousands of tanks and aircraft the Soviets hurled at Manchuria; it was very one-sided, including witnessing Japanese banzai charges against Russian tank formations on occasion; they stood no chance) But simply looking at the 19th century, the British and Russia rivalry was very much the Cold War of it's time. It sometimes went hot though, in a world where Nuclear weapons thankfully did not yet exist. The Crimean War, witnessed the British and French fight the Russians hard in gruelling battles on the Crimean Peninsula. The British infantry at battles like Inkerman, fought tenaciously against superior Russian numbers and showed they were not afraid of Russia. It was common for the French and British to put the glory of the action in front of the tactical wisdom of the action, and to hurl themselves into Russian ranks. At Inkerman, they fought in fog, which meant the British defending their positions there, were not fully-aware of how massive the Russian forces attacking them really were; belligerently screaming and bayonet charging into the mist, seemingly with reckless abandon) The Battle of Inkerman is often called 'the Soldier's Battle', because the visual hindrances aka the dense fog, and the smoke of battle, meant that the fighting often came down to individual soldiers fighting for their lives in the melee in the mists, and they were fighting bayonet to bayonet, with their enemies appearing at very close range out of the dense fog, meaning they were right on top of each other and fighting desperately, in small struggles for survival; where the wider tactical situation was not really perceptible a lot of the time. The rivalry between Britain and Russia looked very antiquated by 1917, when the Bolsheviks destroyed (and murdered) the Russian Romanov Dynasty. Britain's entire purpose for controlling the Khyber Pass in Eastern Afghanistan, which it had since before 1880, and the Second Anglo-Afghan War (which, contrary to misconceptions abound regarding Afghanistan in general, Britain did genuinely win as far as she was concerned regarding her own reasons for being there; she had previously lost the First Anglo-Afghan War, decades earlier, in between 1838 and 1842) The idea of the Bolsheviks asking the Afghans for a way through the Hindu Kush to attack the British Raj, was even sillier than the idea of the Russian Imperials doing the same earlier on (with even worse logistical capabilities) Britain had basically overestimated the Tsarist Russian Empire's ability, in the mid-late 19th century, to send large armies through Afghanistan. They'd have needed a very large army, over 100,000 men, likely much more, to even remotely challenge the British control of India and realistically by 1900 that would be even more laughable. The British strategists being paranoid about Russia, may have been right trough in the long run (just, jumping the gun by an entire 140 years) In 1980, the Soviet Russians _did_ invade Afghanistan. But they never got through the Khyber Pass nor were they trying to. Britain had left India in 1947 upon it's independence.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Ай бұрын
No the original great game, was between Ancient Babylon and Egypt. The world’s first two great empires.
@Ryan-mr3zf
@Ryan-mr3zf Ай бұрын
This and the historia civilis coming out at the same time feels like Christmas to me lol
@victorianreactionary1875
@victorianreactionary1875 Ай бұрын
It is fascinating to see both disagree on the intention and beliefs of Canning. Civilis said that the Monroe doctrine was “planned by Canning who genuinely expected such a decision to go the way it did” vs here it’s stated as “Canning somewhat happened into it, and had different reasons”.
@redstoneready697
@redstoneready697 Ай бұрын
A return to the non-AI made portraits would be much appreciate
@jeffreyzervos6938
@jeffreyzervos6938 Ай бұрын
Also canning is almost in that level like as an American we don't have the best statesmen but we make up for that in power.
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon Ай бұрын
We expended so much energy, man-and-willpower in 20th Century, to what end? We fought the Germans twice, when the real enemy tightened the noose. And we've become completely apathetic in response.
@TheFactsMan
@TheFactsMan Ай бұрын
Sucks to Suck USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲
@chibble3591
@chibble3591 Ай бұрын
What enemy are you referring to? The Americans or Communists?
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist Ай бұрын
The UK was on ration books until 1953 while the USA demanded high interest rates on top of war debts Churchill casually thought might be waved. People in the UK were eating worse rations in 1950-1953, in terms of calorific intake and nutrition, than they were at the height of the Blitz (in which, the USA stood by and watched 61,000 Britons die, and barely lift a finger in the grand scheme of things, in spite of Roosevelt's actions and genuine sympathies) The sad reality was, that Britons were having a very difficult time post-war while the USA was literally booming (the US boomers living it up in the surging success of Americana in general, culturally and economically) The Rustbelt was not rusty yet, and the Mid West was still a powerhouse of industry for the time being. Britain thought, quite rightly, it deserved better than to be treated this way by the US government, but sadly, it was not a healthy relationship. The USA was outright using the UN to go after British and French Imperialism while simultaneously countering Communist Russia and China. And the Americans were more polite to the Russians and Chinese, which is saying something, than they were to the British and French. See Suez 1956. @@chibble3591
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon Ай бұрын
@@chibble3591 the American state. Americans spilt blood so the Europe would be free. Their patriotism and goodwill was exploited by the infant Military Industrial Complex. The Colonial world was left in tatters. Britain, France and the minor Colonial powers were not given the proper timeframe to decolonise. This is what resulted in the rampant corruption, war, and death experienced in Africa, including up to today. The American state is the largest propagator of evil in all of human history.
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist Ай бұрын
The UN has been disastrous by and large.@@eagle_and_the_dragon
@tspoon772
@tspoon772 11 күн бұрын
"suffering not a brain wave but a brain haemorrhage" Old Britannia has some serious comedic chops
@thezootopiahusky
@thezootopiahusky Ай бұрын
The last years of the Great game was Johnson-vs Wilson from 1964 to 1970
@moviereviews1446
@moviereviews1446 Ай бұрын
It ended in 1956
@varunrajesh6516
@varunrajesh6516 Ай бұрын
"Officially" ended with the 1956 Suez Crisis but I'd say Johnson basically bullying Wilson over Wilson opposing the Vietnam War is like the dark epilogue.
@davidmajer3652
@davidmajer3652 Ай бұрын
Your maps are usually very good, but you included West Virgina in the Confederacy, when it was part of the Union.
@Ras_al_Gore
@Ras_al_Gore Ай бұрын
Virginia joined the Confederacy, at that time West Virginia did not exist and was part of Virginia. It seceded from Virginia during the war and was not admitted as a State until 1863.
@davidmajer3652
@davidmajer3652 Ай бұрын
So in other words, it did not want to be part of the Confederacy. This part of the state was loyal to the Union. After a couple years of the war the region officially became a State of the Union. @@Ras_al_Gore
@Ras_al_Gore
@Ras_al_Gore Ай бұрын
@@davidmajer3652 it doesn’t matter, it was a part of the Confederacy because it was part of Virginia, which joined the Confederacy. Whether it wanted to be or not is irrelevant, the map is accurate.
@davidmajer3652
@davidmajer3652 Ай бұрын
What the West Virginians wanted does matter, and by your own Addisson West Virgina was a state in the Union for half the war. @@Ras_al_Gore
@Ras_al_Gore
@Ras_al_Gore Ай бұрын
@@davidmajer3652 no it doesn’t. You’re the one who had a problem with the map. WV was part of the confederacy, so the map is accurate. It doesn’t matter if it also joined the Union later. The map would be accurate either way.
@shronkler1994
@shronkler1994 Ай бұрын
1:52:00 i love this man
@varunrajesh6516
@varunrajesh6516 Ай бұрын
Big question is if Britain just fundamentally underestimated the US after its win in the War of 1812. And if so, how could that underestimation have lasted for more than a 100 years straight? This Second Great Game is really interesting because unlike British Empire vs Russian Empire, the US and Britain gradually became less hostile to each as time went on. Yet nonetheless the outcome was the US beating the UK geopolitically almost on accident. Crazy.
@MegaBaconMonster
@MegaBaconMonster Ай бұрын
Didnt the US have a secret invasion plan for Canada and a blockade of Britain in the 1930’s, but it was discarded due to the rise of Germany? Lol i think we’re friends out of necessity rather than real good chums, no matter how our leaders act and what they say. Thats just my opinion im entitled to it😂
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Ай бұрын
It's "win" in the War of 1812? You can't be serious... Great Britain dropped all demands for a Native buffer state, ended all support for Tecumseh's Confederacy, paid the US in damages, had all of its invasion attempts defeated, and even relinquished ownership of several islands along the St Lawrence and Great Lakes, while giving up any territory it captured on its own. The war is remembered by both sides, as a stalemate.
@Jordan-xm6wo
@Jordan-xm6wo 23 күн бұрын
I still find it hilarious that Germany made two massive diplomatic blunders in both world wars involving the US; Submarine warfare and the telegram in WW1 and declaring war on the US when they had time to better prepare or focus on Russia
@jeffreyzervos6938
@jeffreyzervos6938 Ай бұрын
Castlereifgh Salisbury are probably the two greatest statesmen of the 19 century the only 2 I'd say are close are Bismarck and Talleyrand maybe meternick but I'm not confident in his abilities
@robertewing3114
@robertewing3114 Ай бұрын
Chamberlain attempted closer US relations and trade agreement to frighten the dictators, he knew actual alliance impossible, and knew actual alliance would likely deter all the identified enemies, the impossibility of peace time alliance led to WWII.
@jeffreyzervos6938
@jeffreyzervos6938 Ай бұрын
Also this video kinda proves America was almost guaranteed into the status it has.
@TheFactsMan
@TheFactsMan Ай бұрын
Yeah...
@danielwest6095
@danielwest6095 Ай бұрын
The british should have federalized the empire, or at least part of it
@spartanx9293
@spartanx9293 Ай бұрын
1:11:09 For as mistreated as they were they didn't suffer a famine in the middle of the war due to economic advice management
@mattbphotograph8973
@mattbphotograph8973 Ай бұрын
A rare outbreak of economic competency indeed, lol.
@woahhbro2906
@woahhbro2906 17 күн бұрын
I'm glad our two countries finally realized we're both better off together - blood is thicker than water.
@canibezeroun1988
@canibezeroun1988 14 күн бұрын
This is one of those series that shows while the United States of America is absolutely a continuation of European civilization, it is something different entirely.
@drmythbusters
@drmythbusters Ай бұрын
Ah hell yeah.
@derchiongster8068
@derchiongster8068 Ай бұрын
For some reason, the narrator sounds a LOT like Gary Neville.
@honesty_provides_tranquility
@honesty_provides_tranquility 16 күн бұрын
1:32:07 how America finds itself exactly where TeamGB was back then. The two countries have been at it since the beginning … and now we reach the end of the road for both… as the enlightenment descends into darkness
@seanjanson9526
@seanjanson9526 9 күн бұрын
1:27:41 That's Cold
@eatafox4313
@eatafox4313 Ай бұрын
Great Britain was a wonderful custodian of the world while it lasted. I will never forget its greatest gift to us, English common law. I can't imagine how awful the world would look today if any other power was the world hegemony. And while we are currently living through its reign, I dont believe the US has filled the boots adequately.
@Endwankery
@Endwankery 26 күн бұрын
US foreign policy still seems underdeveloped and immature. I think America's historic hatred and contempt of European empires has left it ignorant of the methods the British empire used that were a net positive. The current state of America's former colonies (Liberia and the Philippines) shows how America's reckless enthusiasm to relinquish its colonies has had severely negative consequences. It's especially ironic given how prosperous the US territories are
@rector0455
@rector0455 20 күн бұрын
America: Hey. HEY! You better join this league of extraordinary nations we've made! Europe: Okay whatever fine. Wait... You're participating too right? America: Nah that sounds lame af. 😆
@Rumpelstyltskin
@Rumpelstyltskin Ай бұрын
The fall of the British Empire and the rise of the special relationship. 😂
@Houthiandtheblowfish
@Houthiandtheblowfish Ай бұрын
the brain and the brawn muscle man
@robertewing3114
@robertewing3114 Ай бұрын
​@@HouthiandtheblowfishChamberlain and Churchill
@Viper-ev4cn
@Viper-ev4cn Ай бұрын
Your special
@thegoodwillseventyseven
@thegoodwillseventyseven Ай бұрын
When did America stop seeing Canada as a target for future annexation, shifting course towards cooperation?
@TheBleggh
@TheBleggh Ай бұрын
About the same time they stopped seeing Canada as a direct extension of the UK's will.
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Ай бұрын
1811, when they voted not to deal with or annex Ontario, but rather the vast, unpopulated western North American lands. The attacks made in 1812-1815 were designed to force Great Britain to negotiate fairly on grievances Madison listed in his speech to Congress. Of course, war hawks within Congress also saw it as an opportunity to remove British influence from North America once and for all.
@antrewt
@antrewt Ай бұрын
You have a very pleasant accent. It's...hard to describe. It's wholesome and wry. It's homely and bright. I wish there was a way of describing accents. What do you think Southern English accent sounds like? Darlicks, Lesbian chief constables, German people, Darth Vader, the Devil, and Anne Whittacombe. If accents were tastes the Southern English language would be the only one that had no flavour at all, like water. But Northern accents are more fruity, lively, homely and fun.
@vadertrap6535
@vadertrap6535 Ай бұрын
“Clearly a boob guy 1:52:00” THAT CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD😭🙏
@comtededabois4686
@comtededabois4686 15 күн бұрын
No Puerto Rico??
@spartanx9293
@spartanx9293 Ай бұрын
1:30:48 Says who?
@utvara1
@utvara1 Ай бұрын
Your videos thought me that *Britain gave in to US at every turn* even when it had an upper hand and even when US was in a war like with Mexico, civil war or Spanish war. Britain nursed US into being the global hegemon of today.
@obligatoryusername7239
@obligatoryusername7239 Ай бұрын
Britain was prudent not to help the Confederacy. Even if the Confederacy eventually won, the Union would have taken it back in a separate war before the atomic age with superior manpower and industry, and the Union likely would have done it as an enemy of Britain and her allies during the world wars (meaning no loans/Lend Lease). It also probably would have guaranteed the loss of Canada if such a thing happened.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Ай бұрын
The Confederacy is no US in anything. Helping it just ensures the US be stuck in an irredentist streak...
@Fallout3131
@Fallout3131 Ай бұрын
You could also look at it like the USA screwed over Britain whenever it possibly could. The USA loves to do that, still today
@Paul-ft9dn
@Paul-ft9dn Ай бұрын
If britain gave in the everything than all of Canada would have been conquered by the USA. Also rhe Caribbean and Central America would have been USA colonies much earlier than the early 20th century. This happened over a long period of time and the usa gradually grew more powerful than britain. The conflict also was around the borders of the usa not britain. It's not like britain gave in to usa demands around the borders of britain or India during pax Britannica period.
@MarikHavair
@MarikHavair Ай бұрын
The reality is that Britain gave in only because it never made any sense to resist, you seem to underestimate the difficulty is waging war against a near pear power on the other side of the globe especially in those days. The only reason Britain ever put up even a token of resistance against America is because it was mathematically guaranteed to overtake their position on the world stage, being derived of the same culture and stock having access to the same technologies and institutional knowledge and near unchallenged command over 1-2 whole continents. More or less the only thing that could have definitively prevented such an outcome would have been the successful expulsion of the early Anglo settlers by the Indians. Frankly it's quite a scary thought for anyone of the time with any modest talent for foresight.
@ramal5708
@ramal5708 Ай бұрын
Iirc after aligning with Britain and France during WWI and not pursuing the alliance with both of them even further after the war, some debated that if the US went on a war against Britain in the inter war years, the US would lose since Britain had vast amount of territories and could somehow lockdown the Atlantic ocean with their superior Navy and Naval bases from New Foundland in the North and in the Caribbeans to the South, which prevented the US Navy in conducting large scale operations and also preventing the US Pacific fleet in reinforcing their Atlantic Fleet to the Panama Canal and transit them to the Atlantic when they could be intercepted by the British in the Caribbean. Also Canada, which could be used by the British as staging and jumping off point in invading the US from the North. Lastly the state of the US armed forces in the 1920s and early 30s, with their peak strength, they couldn't cope with combined Canadian and British invasion from the North.
@kingkiron2934
@kingkiron2934 Ай бұрын
This was arguably a Greater Game than the one with Imperial Russia. I always wonder what the outcome of the British Empire would have been had they allied with Germany or Russia against the rise of the United States.
@mullerreus145
@mullerreus145 Ай бұрын
WW1 was the true death of it. Britain went from the worlds largest creditor to the worlds largest debtor keeping its allies in the black and a lot of that was with US money. Then after that and with a lot of economic growth in the 30s WW2 happened and basically broke the back of Europe as the leading continent and home of the world powers. We killed the continent for literally nothing
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Ай бұрын
Question: what is in it for Germany or Russia to ally against the US? You have to explain to the folks in Berlin and St. Petersburg why should they care about opposing the rise of a country they have no geopolitical conflict with...
@thegoodwillseventyseven
@thegoodwillseventyseven Ай бұрын
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131perhaps more importantly, why would Britain tie themselves to the continent in exchange for the goodwill of a land empire, whose support couldn’t be that important due to the Atlantic separating those European powers, already pinned down due to European squabbling?
@sichere
@sichere 13 күн бұрын
We have always been at war with Oceania
@williambamann1845
@williambamann1845 17 күн бұрын
lol that map of NA has the great salt lake on it.
@MegaBaconMonster
@MegaBaconMonster Ай бұрын
I’ll probably get shot down for this as usual with the internet but this is my opinion and opinion only. I think our relationship is not very special more like we needed each other out of necessity. During the first world war Britain needed more man power on the front lines, America had never fought a European war at this point so i think they kinda wanted to prove themselves as a major player. Second world war Britain again needed man power but also resources which America has plenty of, also America didnt want Britain to fall as that would place Germany as the sole European power so its mutual benefits. Today although we have grown close its still necessity in my opinion. Britain needs American money and resources and on the other hand America needs Britain friendly due to our strategic position in Europe. Mutual benefits. Leaders say this and that but i bet they dont like each other half the time lol
@F-ke5pv
@F-ke5pv Ай бұрын
I am surprised. You have completely ignored the Falkland's history and the relations between Britain and the US on that matter, as well as British ambitions and plans for Argentina during its independence war
@thegoodwillseventyseven
@thegoodwillseventyseven Ай бұрын
Well yes, in the terms of the Cold War in general, the falklands war oversaw little change in Anglo-American relations. Additionally, the series largely cuts off at Suez, as it would have needlessly lengthened the video at little gain in terms of information in the history of American rise to the western global leader.
@TheFactsMan
@TheFactsMan Ай бұрын
​@@thegoodwillseventyseventhis
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist Ай бұрын
With regards to the Falklands War/Conflict, the reality was, Argentina's military junta was Nationalist. This suited the USA previously, because the whole point of a US backed junta in Argentina, was to avoid having a _Communist_ one there instead. The USA just didn't expect Leopoldo Galtieri to actually go full R...tard and attack the British Falklands. This left the USA in a sort of awkward situation because, they had to maintain face to both the British and the Argentinians, and make no mistake, the USA was much closer to Britain than to Argentina, culturally and linguistically of course. Though the Argentines were technically, 'fellow Americans' (just, from South America), the historical ties with the British meant that the USA was obviously not going to get near being hostile to the UK in this situation. Compounding that fact, for Argentina, was that the UN near unilaterally voted against Argentina and condemned the attack as illegal. The UK was clever about it as well, because instead of having Britain's claim left to the fate of the indecisive and annoying UN and letting them (and Russia, especially) potentially veto British retaliation, Britain did not ask for it to be taken to the highest level and to be dealt with independently. Britain could avoid calling it a war and simply see it as restoring sovereign control, from the interlopers whom had illegally overthrown the local government in Port Stanley. The British would have some support from the USA (e.g. they sold Britain sidewinder missiles) All the same, the British would be the ones fighting the war/conflict. And they wouldn't need UN approval to do so. It was a domestic affair and it was handled as such. And the minor assistance the USA offered, was countered with US platitudes towards Argentina to try and keep them sweet. The USA had to smile on both sides of it's face at two different 'friends'. Ronald Reagan was far closer to Margaret Thatcher (to the point satirists and comedians called them lovers, on both sides of the pond) and the two were strong allies, but he was in a situation where he could neither just insult Argentina. He had to pretend as though the USA hadn't backed the junta there, but he could not condone what Galtieri had cynically just done. Invading the Falklands was reckless and stupid. A miscalculation, based upon having been slyly watching Britain decommissioning warships and weakening her overseas power projection capabilities. Argentina opportunistically thought that Britain was now too weak to stop them. They were mistaken, and that was the end of that.
@F-ke5pv
@F-ke5pv Ай бұрын
I was referring to Britain's 1833 expulsion of the Argentine delegation in the context of Monroe's doctrine and the relations between the US and Britain. It's also important to consider Britain's involvement in the creation of Uruguay in the 1820s. The Rio de la Plata region was strategically important to Britain throughout most of the 19th century, a fact that is often overlooked in today's historical narratives @@thegoodwillseventyseven
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Ай бұрын
​@ThePalaeontologist the British recieved far more than sidewinder missiles from the United States. When the first ships reached Ascension, they were literally running on empty. Because British fuel bladders were left in disrepair and empty, the US had to refuel the British task force. The US also offered to loan carriers to the UK, should they lose theirs. The US provided a soy satellite, stinger missiles, numerous stores of ammo, and even gave the SAS cold weather gear for their mission in Patagonia. Not to mention the US took over most of Britain's Nato duties in Europe in order to free up forces for the Falklands campaign.
@ScipioAfricanus_Chris
@ScipioAfricanus_Chris Ай бұрын
I'm delighted that Woodrow Wilson's legacy is diminishing with each passing year.
@dolantho
@dolantho Ай бұрын
idk i see his moves as a W by like 75% good
@jstout333
@jstout333 Ай бұрын
Ah John Quincy Adams. The man just may be the greatest president of this United States.
@buildinghuntsvillellc4602
@buildinghuntsvillellc4602 Ай бұрын
Thank God the Father of those is THE SPANISH EMPIRE THTA Discovered AMERICA.
@mainaccount4585
@mainaccount4585 Ай бұрын
1:00:04
@mainaccount4585
@mainaccount4585 Ай бұрын
1:23:56
@martinlisitsata
@martinlisitsata 26 күн бұрын
47:10 problems or no problems in turned out betting on the Americans was the right choice
@jeffreyzervos6938
@jeffreyzervos6938 Ай бұрын
Like once Roosevelt Truman and Co came to the realization that Europe and mainly Britain was unable to keep the world in a better and more peaceful position. Like when WW1 and especially when WW2 happened the fact it got so bad proves that Britain was unable to check European power on its own.
@JimmyKartounii
@JimmyKartounii Ай бұрын
the british took the irish guards,scottish guards,and others from the british isles
@explodingwolfgaming8024
@explodingwolfgaming8024 Ай бұрын
Commenting 4 algorithm
@legoman2m98
@legoman2m98 Ай бұрын
same
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