omg omg thank you!!! You’re a gem Cheryl!😘

I love the videos of you both. My 2 favourite brutal youTubers.

Dreamcatcher Siyeon mv😎💪 Red Velvet Wendy more out 😤😤

I’m surprised you’ve never seen his channel till this point!!

Do you know that Siyeon has been evaluated as the best vocalist by many vocal coaches? If you don't know, please study. From N.Y.

Also the undisputed #1 racist in this list.

@@hiyyih_lea ??????

@@hiyyih_lea oh please

@@hiyyih_lea nah yall have to leave that out whenever we talk about her talent because it’s literally two different things you can’t put together lol.

@@hiyyih_lea how about minding your own racist faves , first?

This!!! They need to stop playing safe with her with all these ballads. Her specialty is clearly r&b. She shined so much during the perfect velvet and automatic eras.

SM hates Wendy. They are limiting her by using her just for the group. I really hope they will let her shine.

@@KC-ny8pf SHINE ON ME, LET IT SHINEEEEEEE

she got a solo last year and sm idols have a say in their solo music (except titletracks but they can fight for it). imo wendy prefers songs where she doesn't have to flex her vocals and sm can't do anything about that. plus taeyeon doesn't promote a lot, she was very popular prior to her solo debut

Sm will not promote her like Taeyeon bc she’s nowhere to be so popular as her, Wendy solo tanked on Korea and Joy (lead vocal and VISUAL member) got massive success with hello, Wendy never had the capability of attracting k-fans that much and that’s basically all Sm cares about

I agree! But considering the queens Wendy, Solar and Wheein can do that so well too, their places are well deserved

Exactly, Lily from NMIXX isn't proficient even though she support higher notes her undeveloped low register brings her down

@@user-vd5kq5gr6d yeah people always forget about that.

For 4th gen ggs, one of the best lows or possibly even the best lows is on Ningning. Lily, however, excels in highs more.

​@@nanarae2921 allow me to add Monday of Weeekly too, her and Ningning have one of the best lows in 4th gen

Obviously, final boss OF K-POP is Ailee

What about luna??

@@k_pop_entertainment is she even kpop tho? she's much closer to the k-r&b scene if anything

@@tuamaejacarepue technically speaking, wendy surpassed luna in vocal abilities in general, but she still is a beautiful vocalist too

Wendy's more of an underboss, you have Taeyeon, Luna, Lina, Bada, and Ailee

Their techniques are definitely more advanced as singers, as compared to artists like Siyeon (NO OFFENSE INTENDED, plus I haven't listened much Dreamcatcher so I'm only basing it on the performances in this vid) whose voice sounds strained cause of her mouth opening more horizontally when she belts

@@medic3.074 in your opinion, yes 😊let’s agree to disagree

@@medic3.074 lol🤡

​@@moonbyulunaticfan8645what did the person comment because I might throw hands 😻

TRUE HAHAHHAA

That part 🤭

Me when I'm delusional

​@@jvlixnofc you're being delusional she's better than all of the main vocalists who were mentioned

@@urhypeboy cry

little mix is often compared with mamamoo! i would suggest checking out their live vocals !

They are super cool live during concerts too !! ​@@sappholily

Absolutely 👌 💯 👌 💯

Yass, The Red (RV's Version) ♥️💋🌹

i agree sm and she was being held back back then because of her vocal nodes which was so sad, but she was great either way, and i hope they do re-record their first album since it was so great

Ikr! I thought she was amazing before but when she came back with Like Water I was completely blown away at how she's gotten EVEN better! Her tone and voices are so rounded now it's insane.

@@medic3.074 Don't be delusional.

no fr. i wish i could hit high notes like her

Her one flaw is she stops singing 🤣🤣🤣

One of the most enjoyable female vocalist imo, her range is also insane.

@@eyebrowstj True 😂

come on, this is girl GROUP singers not solo singers. She is far far from perfect. Just compare her belting to taeyeon or solar's.

its amazing that Moonbyul could probably become a main vocalist in some other ggs, shows how good mamamoo is vocally

Yeah, as a group they are the best vocalists in KPOP, no doubt. No one comes close.

@@hefeibao i’m a new moomoo and reading your comment makes me so happy. Everyone who likes kpop that I know in my country doesn’t even recognize who is Mamamoo. What I heard is always Blackpink and… Blackpink 😂

@@NotYourSugarBaby Yeah, Mamamoo via Rainbow Bridge doesn't have as strong of a marketing arm. You should start with their older music first. Their live stages and live vocals are amazing. I also would watch them sing live on radio shows. If you like good vocalists, Red Velvet has a huge song library and are next on the list. Purple Kiss is under-loved though they also have strong live vocals. If you are into rock, then Dreamcatcher is a must listen/watch. How those girls sing live and have some of the hardest choreo is beyond belief.

Yes in terms of average talent, Mamamoo > Red Velvet though both groups are at the apex of overall group talent in the entire Kpop scene. MMM's top 2 vocalists are undisputably better than Seulgi, thus pulling their average higher than RV, but Wendy is just untouchable, for a more balanced perspective she would have to be compared to the actual R&B cohort where it is more saturated with vocal talent instead of the kpop scene and even then, shes amongst the top 10% of Korean R&B talents to have existed thus far.

We were going to get a Wendy-Solar stage but Wendy met with an accident.

@@sakshimaheshwari8683 they did a stage together 3-4 months ago I think they were singing a trot song

Yes!! I hope they collaborate

@@sakshimaheshwari8683 wendy and solar got on stage but was sabotaged by this loud granny and they were singing a barnyard song

@@kokomi277 GAAHAHAHHA PLS

could be because of her theater/choir background! 💙

Do you know that Siyeon has been evaluated as the best vocalist by many vocal coaches? 😄 From N.Y.

@@BruceLee-ke1gm yeah even my choir conductor likes her voice (I've managed to turn some of my choir members into insonmias 😁) but this vocal coach here doesn't seem too agree

This vocal coach isn’t exactly… legitimate, lmao.

Exactly the clips he used to back his low ranking of her weren't that fair to her even when showing speechless , it was very short I still can't believe miyeon and rosé ranked better than her. I do agree that mamamoo are the vocalists that are hard to beat

@@crystalnait455 mamamoo vocal abilites are mainly low registers, they are easier to control compared to singers who sings with a high pitch which is difficult to control and she executes that perfectly, in the recent comeback during the last chorus, she has performed that live on different stages and she executed them perfectly

I think that is the strongest point of Wendy here..she conveys the message through her singing..not only that her runs as well..wendy can be very matured sounding, cheeky and emotional depending on which song she sang and did it amazingly..the thing with MMM vocalists is that they are always sound strong almost too strong for my liking while Wendy on the other hand offers different vibes each time..

I want "When this rain stops" played at my funeral.

Jihyo doesn't sound like she had 10 years training (even of some of it was for acting) and 7 years active as an idol. For all that, we would expect Jihyo today to sound like 'Jihyo on steroids' but her voice is lacking.

@@Ri57490 well jihyo actually was supposed to debut as her group’s main dancer before sixteen and honestly with a schedule like twice(having 6 cbs each year) it’s completely expected and normal for her to regress a bit but she’s still a good vocalist(C tier) and strong dancer with insane stage presence and a song writer too

@@Ri57490 10 years training but the 7 years is acting

what is steroids means,

@@rsm367 5 years of acting actually

The main problems with her is the lack of materials. I can give her F#3/G3-C5/C#5-F#5 if she show enough materials. But for now it’s G3-C#5

I think she's afraid of messing up due to the pressure of being SM's main vocalist; I hope to hear more from her in the future!

She needs better songs

Confidence comes with practice, and practice at home does very little for singing in public. If she was allowed to sing live more it will for sure improve automatically

Peopleeeeeeeeee. You all have to chill out. Both of them are good but Flexibility and Agility doesn't mean Better Technique🤦🏽

YESS that’s why her price tag cover is so hyped bc it shows her strengths perfectly

lia's one of those singers that i wish would just be independent and work on her own music and has like a small label that would give her studio time and musicians to work with and promote her and her music. she just deserves better than being an idol. she should have been a musician.

The ost she sang for alchemy of souls is beautiful..

@@erm-i-like-ratsFirstly, I consider idols to be musicians IF they have prior musical instrument experience. Guitar, piano, or even classically trained.

I'm very surprised that Yuju isn't in the list

@@user-hq8mf2fk4m I think bc she's not in a group anymore

What about Solji and Hyolyn?

@@brianlittrell797 not active in groups

@@user-hq8mf2fk4m I didn't know the discussion of K pop vocalists was limited to those currently active in a group. Is Yuju currently active in a group?

@cues i haven't seen any seulgi stan who denies that wendy is better than seulgi.. they really says that? then i want to laugh lol..

@@Sammmm85 Then you haven't looked around much hon

@@munchkin9006 oh it's twitter stans👀 i mean what can we expect from twitter people? delusional level at it's finest..

even seulgi said wendy's been like a vocal teacher to her since trainee

@@a.l.dvorak7271 yeah this is a lie. Most Wendy stans get mad at people saying Seulgi or other members have singing ability. And claim she cant sing. 99.9 percent are more than aware that Wendy is a better singer.

And her dancing is main dancer material

She is poop forever

SHE IS FOR SURE ALMOST A ALL-ROUNDER

I actually really like the sound of her voice. I know its her even without looking. I don't know what it is but i just really like the way she sounds.

Her voice is unique, energetic and is amazing the control and how educated is her instrument. I don’t know why people try so hard to make her look like she don’t know how to sing, if she is sooooo talented. Most of Kpop idols only can sing high notes and don’t developed low ones, but Jihyo have both. She’s definitely one of the 5th better idol voices, I said 5th bcuz ins this list is missing Lily from NMIXX who come to tell us how amazing is her vocal. 1. Wendy 2. Solar 3. Lily 4. Wheein 5. Jihyo And there isn’t bes vocalist in Kpop, sorry for that ones who think that NingNing is better than Jihyo but nope.

Agree

Me too! They're just so good at keeping us with many comebacks😂

Her voice is my favorite of all females in kpop...so beautiful and her control is astounding tbh

ppl just talk about solar all the time bc of her high notes (no hate to her), when wheein can literally do them too

Do you guys know what song she’s singing in the “I’m Live” stage where she’s alone with a live band?

@@Lizzz.zzzz10 it's "Watercolor" - one of her solo songs

Solar stans rn 😡 ( I love them both and I love weehin soo much 💗)

They’re so talented and they get slept on which is ridiculous bc talent like theirs is hard to find 😭

Exactly I feel like hwasa could have been included since she’s not far behind solar and wheein

@@foosheezoo one of the best and one of the most popular gg of South Korea! They're just underrated internationally but in Korea, everyone would definitely recognize them! 💯

@@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30 Yes! My bias is Hwasa. She is always in her safe zone. She doesn't usually sing high note but if she does, it would be so amazing 😍 I love her unique tone as well.

Fantastic harmonies

I literally have big respect for rbw because they care more about talent and giving our girls (mamamamoo) A chance to debut as idols we have today

Minnie is better though

@@oz1128 for gidle fans, yes

@Kyubin's husband nahhh..you dont even follow her..she is better than you think..dont bring your biased opinion here

You are so right, she is way better than many people think

@@oz1128 you sound more opinionated compared to everyone in this thread

twaf

her musicianship is amazing

Yessss

I agree. I think a lot of people conflate being a good vocalist with being enjoyable to listen to. Siyeon doesn’t have great vocal technique, but I still love her vocal colour and think she elevates any DC track she features on.

@juicybussy i didnt say her and siyeon are on the same level.

this was worded so perfectly 😭😭.

What do u mean wendy is literally first

@@rieurushiba1763 thats what they said…

@@rieurushiba1763 check your reading skills

Ya. Moomoo gang always! But... That's the benefit of being a mamamoo fan, we can't help but acknowledge when we hear absolutely mind blowing talent (Wendy).

She was a stylistic Vocalist by me

What do you mean bad technique. She's perfect with her techniques and stylistics choices. You forgot Siyeon sings live every DC presentation? I've seen tons of vocal coaches reacting to her, no one ever said she had bad technique, on the opposite, they said she's amazingly effortless singing and belting. That means she knows her voice, her skills are high level and that is only achieved if you had singing classes. I don't think DC company are this neglect, you're assuming it just because they're small? It's not like a vocal lesson is that expensive... And look at DC music engineering work? Do you really believe their company doesn't pay attention to important things like vocal lessons when they put that much of effort on music engineering and composition? Fact is Wendy Rose, tayeong, jihyo, etc Are from big companies so everyone try to put them at the top. But when it comes to Siyeon, Solar, Hwasa, Minnie people really are biased to put them at low positions, when they actually are the best vocalist of this generation and don't fail whenever they sing live.

@@elgatodelskz Most of these “vocal coaches” on KZfaq are too scared to say any that might be taken as a criticism to the idol by fans. Just saying.

Yes, I think you are right. She needs a good vocal coach to help develop her voice, which means it will change a little, but that will help protect her voice too. She strains far too much when she belts and that's a cause for concern if we want longevity out of her.

@@hellenwen154 I know some do that, but obviously I'm not taking about the ones faking it. There are done great specialists that know pretty well what they're saying. And I'm mean, if you're going to consider their opinion, then y'all saying she needs vocal lessons are saying it based on what? Are you a vocal specialist?

No one disagrees tho ig.

its only “confirmed” because it was easier to say unofficial positions during interviews during their debut. But on thier official kpop website they have no main or lead vocal and even Solar said plenty of times she is not the main vocalist and she doesn’t think she is the best singer in the group.

Wheein vocal has regressed from last year…

I feel like Solar has the best technique in mamamoo now

@@sally-dg3ml Not technically true…Wheein has better falsetto and is leaning more into producing head voice now, their lower register is more or less the same, and Wheein’s vocal agility and melisma still greatly surpasses Solar. the only thing i can give over to Solar is a more consistent supported range. Wheein’s has lost consistency in the c#5 in terms of support and her C5 is a hit or miss but she still does excel solar in most other categories

@@sally-dg3ml I wouldnt say she has the best technique but i think their equal nowb

Jihyo has definitely improved a lot. It would have been nice if recent clips of her singing were used. T.T was like how many years ago. She has definitely improved by a hundred percent since then. I think it would be really nice if clips from Twice recent tour was used cuz the girl vocal was lit🔥. Singing and dancing through 3hrs of concert.

Minyoung was meant to be the main vocal in 6mix if im not wrong but that doesnt mean jihyo wasnt trained to a main vocal she was always in the vocal position its just that jyp ent probably didnt intend to make her a main vocalist until sixteen.

yep i was thinking the same thing. in the recent tour, the acapella moment Jihyo has in Feel Special would’ve been great to include

@@k-potato3593fo beginning jihyo trainees as artis not idol

She deserves higher fr, got more control and her vocal runs in tall trees are just 👩‍🍳 💋

I really like Minnie’s Lion in MAMA. She nailed it!

I disagree rosé is very comfortable in her higher range, you can see that in her covers she usually changes the key higher and her vocal agility is outstanding as you heard in the video But i would agree Lia is a very bluesy singer, her lower register and her tone when she sings lower is very attractive

@@amaragrey9795 I agree with you!!

show us a good singing moment from Lia in lower keys!

@@amaragrey9795 This is a great explanation.

Finally someone not hating on their voices and calling them untalented people who deserve nothing on this planet. It’s exhausting. Not everyone is a Wendy. Just because they may not be the best of the best doesn’t mean they aren’t good. Rosé hits high notes with ease. Her voice always sounds amazing and pleasing to ears, and I’d like to mention her technique isn’t as bad as people like to say. Lia is so good as well. It pains me how underrated she is. I don’t keep up with itzy but I can say from what I’ve heard, her parts in songs are always my favorite. They both have such good voices and they really don’t deserve the hate for their voices. (Plus, YG sucks af, and only cares about rap and dance)

Agree 🙌🏻

waahhh you dont know how much I admire Yuju's voice!! its just **chef kiss**

Yuju and taeyeon is no longer in a group that's why they're not included

This is active groups main vocalist thats why they arent on the list

@@rieurushiba1763 Girls’ Generation is not disbanded. They’re just not active

She has big soul

​@@KitKno she has many many soul

I think I know why you think she is good from a past experience of mine. I used to have zero knowledge of vocal technique then I took vocal lessons and learnt about support which is the most important thing in proper singing. I suggest watching kpop strain vs support video to understand vocal technique.

@@A-Tsket I actually don't care about vocal training, I'm not a singer, and yes, I'm ignorant when it comes to the subject. But for me, even if she lacks of something, she sounds amazing and that's the most important for the listeners. That's why I think (based in my own taste) she's a perfect singer/artist. The sound and potential Siyeon has is unique and that's what I like about her. Not everything in life is about classical technique when you have THAT voice and can sound like that.

Siyeon, Dreamcatcher is one of the best singers in general as well K-pop. 👍

She is wild, and i like it..

@@A-Tsket No one needs to be an expert in a subject to comment on it. Music is universal. A beautiful voice is still beautiful regardless of the listener's familiarity with technical knowledge.

Yasss! I hate how people sleep on Mamamoo. I can honestly say that they all sing beautifully and they sing live as well which not a lot of idols do! They deserve their roses!

I think he should do the male idols too

She has that strength and could improve it but, if you watch recordings behind, you’ll see that soyeon wants her to sing nasally and a certain way which restrains her a lot which doesn’t give her much room for improvement and even if she does improve we most likely won’t hear any of that in gidles songs… maybe covers/next solo album? Or songs like “I want that” who knows

After an Idol debuts I think the responsibility for development falls on them not the company

@@jonathanenoch5065 and I feel like Twice just don't get time due to so many comebacks

Yes, actually she wasn't trained to be a main vocalist, she was trained to be a main dancer. Also, I've noticed that she has improved with time

@@DianaMartinez-fl1pj I think she could reach Solar’s level with training and time. I think it’s unfair when people call her average because she hasn’t been able to reach her full potential

@@ashegoveia5321 we can say that about nearly any singer though, and try to dispute their ranking because of other circumstances

Jihyo is really good in live singing

She has really good stamina and TWICE is so big that ppl forget that Jihyo was never trained to be main vocalist but JYP decided to kick the main vocalist of the group out🤦🏻‍♀️

@@fearnes.5272 who is the member who was supposed to be the main vocalist?

@@bimby8414 during Sixteen there were to main vocalists material namely Jiwon (Fromis 9) and Minyoung. I truly believe Minyoung was the designated main vocalist at that time and Jihyo as 2nd main or lead vocalist

@@wan3349 jyp did say that minyoung was better suited as a soloist but she left the company

no

*of kpop

Yes

Facts

​@@londynmurphy8818 cope she is the best vocalist of kpop ☕😚

i would have to agree tbh but it def is close

And Lia shouldn't even be on this list.

@@kagosumpi2724 wrong

Agree

mhmmm i dont think so

Rosé needs to get rid of that forced nasality to make her voice listenable

@@Ri57490 she manage to control it now, so it doesn't sound bad anymore (at least for me)

Yasss , i believe she has a lot of potential 🤩

Me too

@@giogaleira7271 she still sounds the same because her voice isn't powerful

girl did you not hear all of rv hit that f note on wildside?

@@ayo845 I know that you are RV stan that you can say that, and RV is also great group in terms in Vocals but let's be real, Mamamoo have much more versatility and tone quality.

@@ayo845 something Mamamoo would do too, mamamoo is just better as a vocal group

@@ayo845 girl you couldn't even name it correctly. It's F5, not just F (beacuse all octaves have an F in them). Now sit this one out since you don't know sht about musical technicalities.

@@ayo845 dont worry let them hav that title for now we all now rv sounds heavenly as a group too We literally have seulgi joy and our rappers who can sing like lead vocals.

Like this video said, Jihyo is basically the pre-evolution of Solar. They're both depended on when it comes to more "heroic" parts of the songs. Ever since Twice started doing more mature concepts (Feel Special, Breakthrough, Perfect World to name a few), her style of singing brings a depth to the songs and gives that much needed oomph. I'm also kind of done with JYPE giving too much lines to Nayeon, who kind of struggled to sing through their repertoire in their tour.

@@dantan7881 I absolutely agree. Jihyo is like a pre evolution of solar . However, she recently had a stylistic approach to songs (to fit the title tracks tbh) in studio version, which made her voice nasal in studio. In live she quickly switches up to technique. And I also agree that Nayeon getd way too many lines for her level.

@@ananya2711 that's Jihyo (live>>>studio)

@@ananya2711 Poor Nayeon, actually. I think she's probably one of the members who will suffer a vocal decline first due to the sheer amount of lines she has (that are way too high) to sing through with her technique. On their III tour, she was singing flat most of the time.

@@ananya2711 Nayeon has the freshest voice in the group and she's also the 2nd best vocalist in their group so it's no doubt that she's getting the most song.

she’s really good for a jyp main vocal.

@@butterflyera765 not just a jyp vocal , her technique is really strong , both in high notes and in ad libs , it’s not boring too she has a nice tone to it

@@Tarikkb agreed i find her voice to be especially surprising since she’s under jyp.

that's what is called "talent"

@@butterflyera765 JYP has this reputation for having "weak vocalists" but that's most definitely not true. Lily is better than Lia, Jihyo, and Min/Suzy but still below Sunye, Yeeun, Baek Yerin, and Jamie with a considerable gap. I'd say JYP is average to above average when training their vocalists. Nayeon and Jeongyeon aren't bad as well. With that in mind, JYP vocal coaches definitely know how to do their job properly but whether they want to improve or remain stagnant is up to the trainees themselves.

using indie technique limits your vocal abilities but good job to rosé since she can support her and and improved.

I like her voice more on Gdragon's "Without You". I feel uncomfortable of Rosés voice now. It's so shaky. Well, maybe it's just me. Lmao

@@jiedragonhub yes I love that tone more because rose pronounce much better

@@jiedragonhub her voice back then didn’t really have any support so it was basically worse lol

@@kledi3817 it doesn't sound like that to me. Her belt in Without you is way more richer and way more stronger.

@RadDude don't listen to this YT, they seem to know what makes the basics for a good singer, but they don't really know that Siyeon's technique is her own. The other thing is, she's got 6 others who are actually all very good at the low-to-mid range. She also can go into a very jazz style and in the last comeback, Bon Voyage, she really showed she's got some range. In Demian, she showed she can switch it up to almost a female classical Korean singer style. That's unique and I'm not saying the others in this list couldn't do rock or metal, but I am saying that Wendy and Rose would not sound at all as powerful as Siyeon.

If we talk about girl group from gen 3 & 4 then YES... but if we put soloist on the list, pretty sure she is still on big 10..

samee

@@icamanda u are not sure.

@@blessieshane1445 how can I sure 😐? I did not do survey. Just "I think"

@@icamanda she would still be number 1

As much as she has improved it would still be better for her to scrap her current technique/style entirely. She will never reach her full potential otherwise. You can see that she has real and true potential because of what she’s capable of doing with an inherently limiting vocal style. Girl has a sense of musicality and a beautiful natural vocal tone. Wish she could showcase it more.

@@MunkeeFWRrng I agree if yg focuses less on making her voice more “unique” she could be one of the best vocalists imo

@Tiffany's pink card Literally, like what’s the point of sounding “unique” if you can’t sing well enough to preserve your voice and reach your full potential as a vocalist?

@@lol1ipopsxox But the thing with YG vocalists is that their technique and the uniqueness of the tone is well balanced, and that's what YG wants. YG already revealed before that the reason why he wanted a unique vocalist, is because he wants someone that will be different from the rest. It's like in a world full of SIMILAR vocal tones, YG needs someone who will be different among the rest or someone who can make their own signature sound. Signature sound in which you can easily tell if who's the singer even with just one syllable and even with eyes closed. I think YG is kinda great in doing that, because he's the only one who have that kind of idea. Even Eric Nam acknowledge the style that Rosé has. Eric also acknowledge YG for being able to apply uniqueness in their artists' vocals.

@@ygpml who cares what Eric Nam thinks lol I didn't know he was Quincy Jones. BlackPink already has a unique toned vocalist (Jisoo) so why are they forcing Rosé to sound like a nasally chipmunk? It's clear its all about creating certain images and roles for the members. It won't suit Rosé's 'indie' blonde beachy image to sing in a classic clean voice. (By YG's marketing standards).

Agreed, hands down. If you take into consideration the fact that MAMAMOO is a self-developed group that had to rely on natural talents to carry them to fame, it's no wonder why she isn't top on this list. She doesn't sound much different from debut though she is way more confident and comfortable on stage. Wendy 2 years ago would not have given solar a run for her money lmao, but of course being backed by a company that can buy you 6 of the most expensive vocal coaches in the world will give you a leg up.

@@nunyabusinessbro8527 I think you’re exaggerating. I’ve seen you comment the same thing, and I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at. 2 years ago?? So 2020/2019 give or take, so what changed between then and now that Wendy’s suddenly better? 🤔Wendy was already ranked above Solar even then, in fact, when Wendy debuted she was already a Proficient Vocalist, she already had supported D5s which MMM members haven’t shown. Even her head voice pre-debut was a lot better than MMM members, being able to support C6 without receiving “sm training”, but is among the vocalists who have the most developed head voices in kpop She had a short training period of 1.5 years where she probably learned to lighten her mix for better longetivity. The majority of her vocal prowess is from Wendy herself, so you suggesting she’s only as good as she is because of access to vocal coaches is in poor taste. If anything, SM is the one that lucks out in finding their main vocalists, that’s why there’s such a huge gap between their main vocalists and other members of their groups. Seulgi was training to be the main vocalist but Wendy came and that changed even though Seulgi was in SM for 5 years already at that time, yet she is quite far from Wendy’s level despite having the same access and even much earlier(no hate to her). I don’t think you have anything against Wendy, but your tone makes it seem like you’re trying to take credit away from her talent.

@@nunyabusinessbro8527 lmao wendy was still a greater singer than solar even when she hasnt even come to korea, so idk what ur on

I honestly think is wheein better than solar

I agree mamamoo has strong vocalists in terms of a group. but Wendy singing ability surpassed the standard of an idol. because most of the singers on this list I will consider average outside of Kpop.

I think it’s quite outdated now to be used in these kinds of videos, but you can definitely still enjoy watching it

that cover ate everyone up on the list 😭 it would totally be funny if a predebut cover ate every other main vocals up 😭

@Tiffany's pink card 😌😌some things just need to be said

Nct and Exo would probably be on top imo. Its gonna be so messy

I’m an Army and I would love to see it actually. Already very aware that Jungkook isn’t good technically which I’m sure 99% of the fanbase would disagree with but I like these videos.

@@kunikuzushis seriously, when I see people say stuff like Jungkook is better than vocalists like D. O. And Taeil I scoff. Like, he's good, but not NEARLY as skilled as the latter two.

@@shreksmeatballs9435 Taeil is literally the Chen of NCT atp. The members didn't lie when they said that he's the backbone of the vocal department in NCT! 😩✋🏼