BRZ vs WRX STI - ReMatch [Disrespected Emotion]

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3 жыл бұрын

130kw VS 180kw - Well that was unexpected! We take the BRZ and WRX STI to a smaller track to see if the RWD BRZ can keep up with the JDM Hero STI on a tighter circuit - an unexpected result that we didn't see coming!
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@mightycarmods
@mightycarmods 3 жыл бұрын
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@kylejones6465
@kylejones6465 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby-Ray Zelda
@predaR6
@predaR6 3 жыл бұрын
are you guys going to mod the brz? maby supercharger/turbo etc.?
@louiswilliamhicks
@louiswilliamhicks 3 жыл бұрын
Just call it BRuumZ, because it's a brum brum
@richardunderwood950
@richardunderwood950 3 жыл бұрын
Glad the BRZ is getting some well deserved love from the KZfaq car community lately
@stateofmike3426
@stateofmike3426 3 жыл бұрын
Got mine in the mail today! Cherry scented literally.... if you also buy the air fresheners. Thanks heaps.
@JustAGearHead
@JustAGearHead 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed Marty is wearing one of the shirts I sent them. I'm happy he liked it enough to actually wear it.
@Methosthei
@Methosthei 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. Were can I get one?
@JustAGearHead
@JustAGearHead 3 жыл бұрын
@@Methosthei you can find the link in the description of my videos, if you want to check out the videos as well. Or you can go to RedBubble and search JustAGearHead.
@Methosthei
@Methosthei 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustAGearHead Just looked at your channel, liked what I saw , subscribed.
@JustAGearHead
@JustAGearHead 3 жыл бұрын
@@Methosthei Thanks for the sub.
@talenabezboridka1544
@talenabezboridka1544 3 жыл бұрын
Thats super cool. :)
@aidankingman1316
@aidankingman1316 3 жыл бұрын
Marty: turns wheel the smallest degree Impreza tyres: SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH
@dylanf6091
@dylanf6091 3 жыл бұрын
Wasnt it 5k for your brz? A high performance clutch doesn't cost that much does it?
@truculenttabasco
@truculenttabasco 3 жыл бұрын
Understeer City: Population = Marty.
@radbug
@radbug 3 жыл бұрын
has the wrong air pressure in those tires. marty is just really timid in the turns. once he started following his corners were easily 20% faster.
@bryce5391
@bryce5391 3 жыл бұрын
Radbug he needs negative camber up front
@bryce5391
@bryce5391 3 жыл бұрын
S F or maybe... those of us who track STis and know from experience you’ll understeer a bitch unless you have decent negative camber.. which any half-brain knows Marty doesn’t because he has no camber adjustment other than stock bolts which net a degree tops. But yes let’s go with your thing
@alimuhma
@alimuhma 3 жыл бұрын
10 years later, Moog is still trying to catch Marty's STI....
@Chaze-yq7ms
@Chaze-yq7ms 3 жыл бұрын
Call the brz... and hear me out here... “Boriz”
@picke4160
@picke4160 3 жыл бұрын
Got me weak
@jameswood1935
@jameswood1935 3 жыл бұрын
@@picke4160 bruz or bruize/bruizer
@rya3190
@rya3190 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the car was Russian
@mendezmarcos38
@mendezmarcos38 2 жыл бұрын
@@rya3190 blyat
@lucasross4007
@lucasross4007 3 жыл бұрын
Brz name: Brazzer Keep up the good work Marty and Moog!
@juliodiddo9239
@juliodiddo9239 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@tuisautaleilua133
@tuisautaleilua133 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's all could think of too, I spelt it BRAZZA
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally the only right choice!
@TastierBackInThe80s
@TastierBackInThe80s 3 жыл бұрын
This. The correct name created in 30 minutes flat.
@imouse3246
@imouse3246 3 жыл бұрын
Brazzer? Then call it Barbie.
@IPLayedVR42Long
@IPLayedVR42Long 3 жыл бұрын
Glad he finally realized how to corner in the BRZ. I'm all in for calling her Brazzers lol
@toddmccarter45
@toddmccarter45 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they can get a new sponsor
@vdub5818
@vdub5818 3 жыл бұрын
You know you want a Bangbaru series😂😆🤣
@wasabiwaldo8603
@wasabiwaldo8603 3 жыл бұрын
Better then Blue Raging Zit
@TheCarJesus
@TheCarJesus 3 жыл бұрын
I hear if you call a car Eleanor then it magically disappears. That would be a cool trick.
@YeeThirty
@YeeThirty 3 жыл бұрын
Lol done
@ajangalbo
@ajangalbo 3 жыл бұрын
Its not a mustang tho
@YeeThirty
@YeeThirty 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajangalbo was still funny tho
@ajangalbo
@ajangalbo 3 жыл бұрын
@@YeeThirty ya right i agree hahaba
@SubaruVideosUK
@SubaruVideosUK 3 жыл бұрын
Got to agree with the comments here, that STi is understeering WAY too much, especially on turn in. That tyre noise is upsetting 😢 Get that rear ARB on the stiffer setting, and replace the front top mounts with Whiteline ones for more camber/castor angle. Great battle though, love these type of videos by you guys.
@acquacow
@acquacow 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I would love to know their actual alignment specs. My 2001 GC STI barely understeers these days with 6.6deg of caster and -2.5deg camber. I keep the rear at -1.5 camber and run a 25mm front bar, and 17mm rear bar. I have tons of grip.
@mark89p
@mark89p 3 жыл бұрын
that other STI coming out of nowhere was like a Ghost Lap!
@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 3 жыл бұрын
happy Gran Tourismo memories! (Sucks when you have that one killer lap, and can't ever quite match it!)
@lilgampla
@lilgampla 3 жыл бұрын
That was a wrx it belongs to Andrew Hawkins at motive garage
@AlvarezAdrian1
@AlvarezAdrian1 3 жыл бұрын
This is it guys, this is the one.
@lilgampla
@lilgampla 3 жыл бұрын
@Brad Fuller clearly you do or you wouldn't be so triggered to type that
@RedNffc
@RedNffc 3 жыл бұрын
Bellllllll
@Alex-wb2yw
@Alex-wb2yw 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the STi is understeering way more than it should be. Id soften the front sway, and stiffen up the rear.
@Terminator4000
@Terminator4000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah should make a massive difference
@Zesserie
@Zesserie 3 жыл бұрын
It dont think thats the issue, it seems set up right. 4WD does understear but you can correct it with brakes going into a corner. accelerating will understear while breaking is gonna transfer load to the front and give better traction. break, rotate and pin it when you have a clear line out of the corner is what im told with 4WD. could be wrong though
@Alex-wb2yw
@Alex-wb2yw 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Zesserie All i know is on my STi (06, so slightly different but not much), I much preferred the oem front sway bar with a 24mm rear. The car rotates well, and hardly understeers at all. This is only based on autox experience, and lots of back road driving. No actual on track experience.
@BeauJohnson247
@BeauJohnson247 3 жыл бұрын
Cant Be Arsed could be wrong?yes, you are wrong... the car is setup poorly
@Zesserie
@Zesserie 3 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected i guess, Dont have any real experience racing with 4WD.
@dsmproject95
@dsmproject95 3 жыл бұрын
BRZ: blue racing zealot. She has no torque, but she has heart.
@korbennunn9460
@korbennunn9460 3 жыл бұрын
Always make me smile, when watching your video, and I will be watching them when im in hospital on the 2nd to get me through my recovery from my operation ❤
@o0bananaman0o
@o0bananaman0o 3 жыл бұрын
BRZ: Brazzers because its pure pr0n and Brazzers vs STI just sounds funny
@robinsyrett9315
@robinsyrett9315 3 жыл бұрын
How about Porn Car/Porn Star? “Porn Star catches STI” 😂
@poptartmcjelly7054
@poptartmcjelly7054 3 жыл бұрын
"brazzers" doesn't have enough vegemite in it. Should call it Brazza'.
@ericdraven234
@ericdraven234 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to make a suggestion, but this one just wins
@digital_mindmeld
@digital_mindmeld 3 жыл бұрын
fck im late
@junction13pirate
@junction13pirate 3 жыл бұрын
Such an opening statement, "I am here, now, you are in the internet" Yet I am here now and you are in the internet 😵🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@Bost2301
@Bost2301 3 жыл бұрын
Woah woah woah, hold on there! I'm here and you are in the internet... And they are also!! But... But... Does that mean I'm also in the internet? Do I exist? Is this the Matrix? I think, I have to lay down for a second and let that sink in 🤯😱
@poptartmcjelly7054
@poptartmcjelly7054 3 жыл бұрын
hold up, you mean to tell me that he is there and i am here? mind blown
@udovdh
@udovdh 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, how would they know? :-)
@kylejohnson2184
@kylejohnson2184 3 жыл бұрын
Wherever I go there I am, and sometimes the internet is as well.
@JesseSpec
@JesseSpec 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You guys are really a good example of what a Car KZfaq Channel should be about! Also, never underestimate lower powered cars!
@doncosner2611
@doncosner2611 3 жыл бұрын
Moog did an awesome job pushing that BRZ to it's limits! Marty had the advantage on the strait shots for sure but it looked like both of you were really having a good time! Great video as always!
@01gtbdaily30
@01gtbdaily30 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can see Marty doing wrong is with Awd he could just drive straight over the grass in the corners , no need for staying on the pavement . This is just a sarcastic joke in case it’s not clear.
@WilliamWonka
@WilliamWonka 3 жыл бұрын
What part of this is a joke to you? Did you even watch the video? This is about LIFE AND DEATH. Marty should have done anything he could to come in ahead of Moog. Crazy that there’s gonna be no more Martin or STI
@44caliber100
@44caliber100 3 жыл бұрын
Fishing for likes you are
@Mini73520
@Mini73520 3 жыл бұрын
Oh great dark humour...
@fast98gtp
@fast98gtp 3 жыл бұрын
Brz: BLUE BALLS. It always leaves you wanting more.
@The_One_Over_There
@The_One_Over_There 3 жыл бұрын
Blue Ball-Z ?
@druscanam
@druscanam 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's BRZ, you know with an R and a Z in the name, not a BB whatever that is 🤔
@ElkinsEric
@ElkinsEric 3 жыл бұрын
Blue Ragin Ballz?
@hotshot8207
@hotshot8207 3 жыл бұрын
Great Run Guys!! It was a real pleasure watching you two compete as friends and having a good time!! Thank You
@A88A88
@A88A88 3 жыл бұрын
smiling all the way through this video! great work as always
@breisch1986
@breisch1986 3 жыл бұрын
4:17 Marty is concentrating so hard he's entered the Rowan Atkinson zone.
@kalus1019
@kalus1019 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me hahaha
@AlphaAce15
@AlphaAce15 3 жыл бұрын
Can this be posted in r/rareinsults ?
@poptartmcjelly7054
@poptartmcjelly7054 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaAce15 wdym this is a praise not an insult
@Globeglider
@Globeglider 3 жыл бұрын
Rowan Atkinson is a great driver too!
@mojojoji5493
@mojojoji5493 3 жыл бұрын
Hardest roast ever
@markraumer2336
@markraumer2336 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Marty, I had similar issues with my WRX 15 years ago. I bought a stiffer antisway bar on the front suspension and it became a snowplough. I saw the light and removed the bar and returned it to factory spec. I then put a stiffer adjustable bar on the rear and Shazam no understeer. Adjust your tyre pressure as well as that can really change the balance of the car and it’s grip. Love the WRC blue coupe!
@jacsmiley
@jacsmiley 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! I've owned x2 an E2DD and F2DD. Both factory strut and factory swaybars and uprated springs for ride height. I had zero understeer issues. 3rd green light up on the DCCD for loose surface control was bang on👌🏽
@warummussmeinnameangegeben6502
@warummussmeinnameangegeben6502 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think hoonigan had a video with Randy Pobst once explaining that Nissan GTR will start to understeer too with heavy front sway bars
@flinchy952
@flinchy952 3 жыл бұрын
@@warummussmeinnameangegeben6502 any car will, sway bars are tuning tools, going too stiff will reduce grip on either axle
@designaddict101
@designaddict101 3 жыл бұрын
Same all the way up to my 2009 WRX Sedan, pushed like a pig in standard form, but really, one bar change away from virtually neutral handling! I think it was their idea of safety or maybe ESC is easier to calibrate for understeer...
@markraumer2336
@markraumer2336 3 жыл бұрын
@Mark Wessley - the early year model WRX were essentially front wheel drive and they need to be real soft up front on the sway bar and real stiff out back - so they can dig into the corners. This does not feel as sporty as the front end feels like it has too much body roll- but the the tyres will grip and turn and the stopwatch will tell the real story. Cant wait to see Marty refine the setup and chop the bloody BR86!
@allynj2272
@allynj2272 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome and produce some amazing content! Don't ever let the haters get you down or discouraged.
@AtrociousNightmare
@AtrociousNightmare 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! The times are so close! Crazy. What's crazier is that the temps didn't go up all day :O that's quality. Can't wait for you to alter all that with a big snail
@None-kv7sd
@None-kv7sd 3 жыл бұрын
11:25 "I own a BRZ and I chopped a Corolla once bahaha H E A D G A S K E T" -Moog 2020
@hypelyrics6738
@hypelyrics6738 3 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see this comment
@curtispoplin7087
@curtispoplin7087 3 жыл бұрын
Overwatch sucks, odoyle rules
@aDaWaN
@aDaWaN 3 жыл бұрын
The DCCD centre diff in the STi has a 65R/35F torque split when open. This means: the looser the diff, the more oversteer. When fully locked the diff is 50F/50R, the same as a WRX (non-STI). This might be counter intuitive at first. On dry asphalt you use the diff full loose (more oversteer for rotation) and on snow/gravel you can set the diff to full lock (more balance / understeer).
@CatTerrist
@CatTerrist 3 жыл бұрын
THATS NOT HOW THE DCCD WORKS The F/R is 41:59 or 35:65 depending on year, the better ones are 41:59, full stop end of story. It is MECHANICAL and can never change. Do not make this common mistake in understanding how it all works The diff is NEVER completely locked, it still can slip - it just takes a lot more force to do so. The diff going tighter only disallows differences in F/R rotation. And TBH the diff being open just makes it easier to drive - The diff locked can be oversteer city if you throw it in hard enough even on tarmac.
@mrmcbeardy9268
@mrmcbeardy9268 3 жыл бұрын
Some tidy driving fellas. Nice to see Moog getting his assettiveness out with an STI up his butt. Nothing like a bit of pressure to improve performance. As for corners, you'll find the following little gem in classic racing analogies: "Mouse in, Lion out". 👌
@hawkertyphoon4537
@hawkertyphoon4537 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the laughs, thank you for the lessons!
@aaronl4036
@aaronl4036 3 жыл бұрын
Marty, get some camber plates for the front and dial in some negative camber. It will vastly improve the front end bite. Cheers.
@subarubuildz1738
@subarubuildz1738 3 жыл бұрын
Also coilovers!
@spicysinglecam
@spicysinglecam 3 жыл бұрын
A little toe out would help with turn in also. But that's just the drift kid in me talking
@declanrobinson6624
@declanrobinson6624 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Armstrong I daily drive a 06 wrx with some slight camber dialed in and as long as it’s not stupid it doesn’t really affect it, daily driven both stock and with coil overs and camber but tbh it isn’t too hard to just add camber on the day either with coilovers for the track, however I just leave the camber on for both as it helps with some spirited driving, I would only suggest going to around -1.5/2.5 degrees though (for the 06’s anyway)
@tjreeve9024
@tjreeve9024 3 жыл бұрын
Or add some caster
@mat5267
@mat5267 3 жыл бұрын
See earlier episodes....
@etiennebelanger8644
@etiennebelanger8644 3 жыл бұрын
This race was SO EXCITING 😳😀 Thank you so much for sharing this bucket list moment imo
@benfranklin9156
@benfranklin9156 3 жыл бұрын
Gentlemen, under Covid lockdown here in Northern California,. Your antics were much fun to watch. The only road fun I get is driving my 2019 WRX w/stick to the grocery store. Great to hear and see you play with those corners. Yep, those big (heavy) Dodges, Mercedes, Mustangs etc. take me on the straight. I leave them far behind after a curve. Light, small and quick is good. You both got fun cars!
@mickebjorkman7517
@mickebjorkman7517 3 жыл бұрын
”BäRZ” is swedish slang for beer. Come on. You are australian after all. Just like the BRZ, beer is impossible not to love. Plus it has ümlauts. Ümlauts god damnit!
@GustavBrogren
@GustavBrogren 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! That ä is pronounced the way you would pronounce a in the word ban (banned).
@michaelandersson6088
@michaelandersson6088 3 жыл бұрын
Epic! :)
@broke123
@broke123 3 жыл бұрын
@@GustavBrogren So like "bears"? So to speak?
@hampusj6047
@hampusj6047 3 жыл бұрын
Forty no like bäsh/bärs
@glensgraphix
@glensgraphix 3 жыл бұрын
Marty found his razor! Moog talked almost the whole way through that even after saying there'd be no talking. Hilarious.
@johnwiles4661
@johnwiles4661 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think he can help it. 😅 We wouldn't have them any other way though ay?
@leemonk4073
@leemonk4073 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's easyer driving an all wheel drive in this surcomstance so I would give it to moog
@paulcollins1322
@paulcollins1322 3 жыл бұрын
Here for the music and content. Mighty Car Mods Awesome as always
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 3 жыл бұрын
"Good job, Subaru or Toyota... or whoever made this car." hehe 😄
@youtubeuseronalot6376
@youtubeuseronalot6376 3 жыл бұрын
Marty fit a higher ratio steering rack from a bug, blob, hawkeye sti 2.5 turns lock to lock or the type RA 2.25 turn lock to lock , all fits night & day improvement only thing needs modified is steering coupling 1/2 gc8 1/2 New age or swap steering column from New age steering rack pipes may need a slight bend best mod U can do for feel .... also try rear auto roll away bar stiffer or front looser to kill understeer, camber plates swapped sides to give more caster 👍
@tasty8186
@tasty8186 3 жыл бұрын
Replying so hopefully the boys see this
@adamryd95
@adamryd95 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip
@pelagicsky
@pelagicsky 3 жыл бұрын
Look at you being helpful. What has KZfaq come to. :)
@johnwiles4661
@johnwiles4661 3 жыл бұрын
Any mk4 legacy racks that are quicker than others?
@darrenlyddieth5770
@darrenlyddieth5770 3 жыл бұрын
2:28 Legit thought Moog was gunna start singing "A Thousand Miles" right there, car racing and Moog covers? AWSOME.
@paulezk
@paulezk 3 жыл бұрын
It's not my cars, but I was smiling while watching this almost the whole time. That vid was fun! Great job guys! ..... More power!
@IIAdaMll
@IIAdaMll 3 жыл бұрын
When the motive wrx showed up, that was nice.
@DirtyEars
@DirtyEars 3 жыл бұрын
When Moog knocked on the "real BRZ", he almost got me. But I remembered that they are sound engineers and could have added that PERFECTLY in post. #FakeBRZ #BRZGate #SoundConspiracy
@kylehall1220
@kylehall1220 3 жыл бұрын
best comment here
@kelfrank4166
@kelfrank4166 3 жыл бұрын
Can Moog drive the Impreza and Marty drive the BRZ then compare times again?
@TDS981
@TDS981 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode guys, loved watching the STI chasing the BRZ. Great driving 👍
@MrStuwr250f
@MrStuwr250f 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks boys. So, so good to see project cars getting driven properly. Sounded epic, knew the Sti would but didn’t think the BRZ could sound so good. 🤘🏻
@harry9959
@harry9959 3 жыл бұрын
Martin , if you're still struggling with understeer into the corners at slower speeds you could be taking the apex too early. Especially with your awd power advantage you want to hit the apex late and power out early xx
@23halestone
@23halestone 3 жыл бұрын
Hes forcing the car through turns, instead of finding the flow through a turn.
@23halestone
@23halestone 3 жыл бұрын
Although if he forces it hard enough he may be losing time, but the car sure fights it.
@JLneonhug
@JLneonhug 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, if you look at later part of your video you tend to hit apex at theorical middle. Where it should be later 3/4 of the corner (late apex) ideally, so you get a longer run on the straight (you can also trail brake to adjust balance). It would help with accuracy if you kept your hands on the steering wheel more and less feeding as if your parking the car. It's much harder to find centre and smooth transition back to straight if you feed the wheel like that. Have fun! Can't wait for the brz upgrade!
@2JRaz
@2JRaz 3 жыл бұрын
Also He may want to try double clutching to let the synchros in the transmission not wear out.
@Neishy4AGTE
@Neishy4AGTE 3 жыл бұрын
@@2JRaz most people that double clutch do it wrong and wear them anyway with slower shifts, may as well just use the things as intended.
@Jacedives
@Jacedives 3 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that the STI has a very scuffed suspension setup. Never seen a car squeel and scrape with such minor turn in. I'd love to see a professional get behind the wheel and diagnose the issues
@t3hdoct3r
@t3hdoct3r 3 жыл бұрын
"Yep, just throw the whole car away"
@masterjdm101
@masterjdm101 3 жыл бұрын
BoxRipZ You guys are awesome. Keep up the awesome content.
@LimeSupra
@LimeSupra 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dudes. I have been watching you guys for several years now. Im usually a watcher and click the next video but I wanted to show some support to you guys for your awesome effort in making great content. Missed out on your last poster, bummed! Thats okay.
@ninjabrad
@ninjabrad 3 жыл бұрын
BRZ name: Back Road Zombie, because it really comes to life in the twisty's!
@EvoBeard
@EvoBeard 3 жыл бұрын
Moog: "You don't wanna look just where you're going, you wanna look AHEAD as well" ~ Pro tips for driving in reverse.
@slydweis
@slydweis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout! @10:57
@Dji9590
@Dji9590 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome guys, this face off is realy what i like at this this point of both cars, thx for great content !
@beyondmaintenance
@beyondmaintenance 3 жыл бұрын
Prounounce it “Breezy”.
@Undercovergrandma396
@Undercovergrandma396 3 жыл бұрын
2:28 100% thought Moog was going to give us a rendition of 1000 Miles by Vanessa Carlton.
@moebius2k103
@moebius2k103 3 жыл бұрын
Me too haha
@gunthead7043
@gunthead7043 3 жыл бұрын
Ble get get get gah get
@joestoffer8212
@joestoffer8212 3 жыл бұрын
Makin my way downtown,
@shilohstore6086
@shilohstore6086 3 жыл бұрын
Place is packed and I'm homebound
@SHAZDAREAPR
@SHAZDAREAPR 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@hendrikjan9116
@hendrikjan9116 3 жыл бұрын
Like the vlog intro very much, please more from this style of filming =D
@theautobotmechanic419
@theautobotmechanic419 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Racing Zoid
@vmfan96
@vmfan96 3 жыл бұрын
This has got to be my favourite series right here. Love the sound of the STI exhaust.
@autocrossaholic
@autocrossaholic 3 жыл бұрын
Tip to avoiding hemorrhoids: never bear down fully, ease into the seat and relax
@Rattus-Norvegicus
@Rattus-Norvegicus 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny cause I'm pooping, teehee.
@cryptographics9647
@cryptographics9647 3 жыл бұрын
Man good stuff for just a few go pros. Nice editing
@ianfairbanks1318
@ianfairbanks1318 3 жыл бұрын
nice content gents. thanks so much!!!
@BadDFWDrivers
@BadDFWDrivers 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed Marty, is that when you get understeer, you sometimes add even more angle to the wheel. From what I understand, you're already turning as much as possible and if you go further you actually turn even worse. Something to do with contact patch I believe.
@TG22222
@TG22222 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, I believe that's why when you watch actual races, they keep turning the wheel back and forth, when on the edge to try and get a better contact patch.
@ikbendusan
@ikbendusan 3 жыл бұрын
it's to do with coeffecient of friction, once the tyre starts sliding the coefficient goes down and you have less grip
@tricd0444
@tricd0444 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that AWD/4WD excels in is straight line acceleration. With the proper setup, you can trail brake to get the rear to turn around, slide through the last 1/3 of the turn, and get on the power WAY earlier than a RWD can.The effect will be much more prominent on cold or street tires, much the same reason that a FWD will ruin a RWD in a short circuit track, considering same tires and same power. The WRX needs the right suspension/diff setup, and a bunch of seat time tweaking settings to make it just right, tires not in consideration, to make the time difference between the BRZ. However, on a tarmac track, the BRZ would also greatly benefit from a bit more seat time, and tires that weren't almost scrubbing. Suspension could use a bit of work and take that away. Would DEFINITELY enjoy a seat swap, and see how Marty does in the BRZ, as well as Moog in the STI. Marty might get used to the BRZ's RWD configuration a lot quicker than Moog will figure out how to thrash the STI.
@reecedrury4145
@reecedrury4145 3 жыл бұрын
In advance driving/skid control I was taught that in an understeering condition to as someone has touched on above, to steer out of it and back into it, multiple times until you get the grip
@Henryduk
@Henryduk 3 жыл бұрын
This is down to how the tyre react to whats called the "slip angle", the angle between the direction the tyre is moving, and the direction the tyre is being steered to ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip_angle ). All tyres gain grip with increasing slip angle until it reaches a peak, then it starts to drop until it hits a steady value (see the second diagram down on the wikipedia page). On top of this, since the cornering grip of a tyre is perpendicular to the steered angle, as you steer the wheel more, the amount of torque the tyre can give to the car to turn it goes down (imagine trying to pull a door handle standing near the hinge as compared to by the handle). So once the car is understeering, if you steer more, the tyres are giving less grip and the grip they have got is doing less work trying to turn the car.
@alexfata8190
@alexfata8190 3 жыл бұрын
Came to watch STI VS BRZ, the second I saw the MR2 that's all I cared about. GO LITTLE SHITBOX GO!
@JHJ350
@JHJ350 3 жыл бұрын
Great commitment from both of you, tyres are proper loaded up. If I were to advise how to improve, I'd focus on making the line smoother and opening the steering earlier and smoother to use all the track on the exit
@BorisAus
@BorisAus 3 жыл бұрын
8:21 pretty sure that is Andrew hawkins from motive DVD in that other subaru
@fedeperezko
@fedeperezko 3 жыл бұрын
I see More agressive driving from Marty. I Like that... a lot
@user-fl1jv9cv7z
@user-fl1jv9cv7z 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. It's got my bwalls all moist n stuff
@kennethjackson7958
@kennethjackson7958 3 жыл бұрын
I’m literally watching the oil catch can install and then ping ! New vid!!! Let’s go
@iantownsend500
@iantownsend500 3 жыл бұрын
That was exciting to watch. Thanks for taking us internet people round the track. BRZilla
@hawkertyphoon4537
@hawkertyphoon4537 3 жыл бұрын
Aha! Quite a few lessons to be learned here. Filming each other (moog being filmed while he comments his own driving...) and marty's headcam showing where he is looking at a given moment (eyes tracking) Good game on switching places. The BRZ needs a bit , just a tiny bit moore "OOOMPH" to move away. Awesome Commentary as well!
@icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs
@icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs 3 жыл бұрын
Martin would be unstoppable if he learned the art of left foot braking in his awd sti...
@nikoprather
@nikoprather 3 жыл бұрын
And got a bigger rear bar and/or smaller front one
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 3 жыл бұрын
I think he more-so needs a bigger rear sway to pull that rear end around.
@icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs
@icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs 3 жыл бұрын
They already put in bigger sway bars. He said he didn't want to go bigger because he still wants to street the car.
@Pinyoo81
@Pinyoo81 3 жыл бұрын
Thinner front bar would reduce understeer a lot. Shouldn't have gone thicher in the front.
@Pinyoo81
@Pinyoo81 3 жыл бұрын
Or just try a 3 series BMW and he'll never go back to jdm...
@andrewchudyk8518
@andrewchudyk8518 3 жыл бұрын
It'll be a different story once you get that blower fitted, Moog.
@parptarf
@parptarf 3 жыл бұрын
The more I see that BRZ going all out, the more I want one. What a mad car!
@ElFreddoAndRubyScoo
@ElFreddoAndRubyScoo 3 жыл бұрын
Best track vid session I reckon I’ve seen. Very entertaining! Thanks boys. As for the BRZ name - the Blue Blob! Announcement on the unicorn circuit??
@scuffedpickles8902
@scuffedpickles8902 3 жыл бұрын
Marty might wanna decrease tire pressure with those stiff sway bars because the car might want some body roll
@PPaauullyyVV
@PPaauullyyVV 3 жыл бұрын
BRZ eh sounds like like a blue raspberry zebra to me, it's just missing a good old zebra stripe wrap for the ultimate disrespect.
@EXP6
@EXP6 3 жыл бұрын
Lol was just thinking BRZ Blue Racing Zebra and saw your comment. Lol
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest KZfaqr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear buzz
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku Plot twist: the girlfriends are your hands. Actually, is it a plot twist if it's real life?
@travischristensen746
@travischristensen746 3 жыл бұрын
aww nice, i was thinking Blurry Racing Zebra
@travischristensen746
@travischristensen746 3 жыл бұрын
@@EXP6 i though the same thing lol
@jhonelmarania7094
@jhonelmarania7094 3 жыл бұрын
Name the BRZ “breezy” haha it would be hilarious with pun intended 😂
@TheAssholz
@TheAssholz 3 жыл бұрын
I just love your videos guys I'm always anxiously awaiting for new videos everyday and everytime your videos comes out on the homepage I get excited Btw for brz I'm in the Brazzers band wagon
@Neishy4AGTE
@Neishy4AGTE 3 жыл бұрын
How was Moogs braking drift, kept the line and everything that was nice. Keichi Tsuchiya would be proud.
@weaksignal8009
@weaksignal8009 3 жыл бұрын
Marty needs a driving day with Bunta' to learn the Sti....
@93GrayWolf93
@93GrayWolf93 3 жыл бұрын
Love watching the boys actually using themselves. MOOG. Final corner should be as late an apex as you can to maximise the straight line speed. So opposite to what you're doing in this vid. MARTY. you wanna take off some speed and reduce lock until the screaming stops from your front tyres. That's just burning rubber not helping turn in. If you leave your DCCD in auto try being heavy on the throttle them moment you notice your hands start to reduce steering lock.
@detroitredwing919
@detroitredwing919 3 жыл бұрын
THANX GUYS✌✌✌✌ MUCH LOVE FROM DETROIT 👍 👏👏👏👏
@GhostPoetCrow
@GhostPoetCrow 3 жыл бұрын
“Blair’s Rakish Zeal” 😂 That’s a fruitful name for ya
@vevohoeyo
@vevohoeyo 3 жыл бұрын
Some serious grip issues with the sti Its squealing at even the slightest turn
@Mooza1
@Mooza1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there is definitely something wrong there.
@jarrodflood1353
@jarrodflood1353 3 жыл бұрын
@ChrisHallett83 that shitbox wrx is also on a crazy tyre compared to michilien pilot sport 4's. Also raced a full season to get the car set up to where it is now
@vmfan96
@vmfan96 3 жыл бұрын
This video and the other track battle is proof to all that say BRZ isn’t a real car or is slow. I love my 2013 BRZ and the engagement you feel driving it. Just look at the grin on Moogs face. That is literally me every time I drive. I have the necessary basic boltons UEL Header, Perrin Intake Pipe, OFT tune and light wheels RPF1 (16lbs), Tien coilovers. I have driven Porsche 911 997, 991.2 , Lambo, Huracan, BMW M4, GTI, WRX, Miata, and for the price used BRZ is the answer for me.
@boneydupree9727
@boneydupree9727 3 жыл бұрын
BRZ: Billy Ray Zyrus........Like Billy Ray Cyrus..."Dont break my heart, my achy breaky heart" you can also wear a mullet when driving/racing/wrenching. lmao
@JakRabbitNick
@JakRabbitNick 3 жыл бұрын
Boney Dupree Literally commented this 12 hours before you lol and have less likes.
@mrperfect7969
@mrperfect7969 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Carter why does it matter?
@rya3190
@rya3190 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrperfect7969 "credit where credit is due" or something like that
@rhkips
@rhkips 3 жыл бұрын
Marty: I'm watching a KZfaq video, not driving the car or experiencing the track, so I'm not going to tell you I know what's going on. But having experienced a similar situation, I'm curious if you could inexpensively/DIY modify your understeer situation by running factory sway bar in the front, uprated aftermarket in the rear. Heck, that could be a series on its own: Playing around with blending OEM and modification to change a car's dynamics. :D Fun race, guys! I enjoyed watching that. Happy weekend!
@TheCrazyBird844
@TheCrazyBird844 3 жыл бұрын
There’s really expensive ways to fix understeer in Subarus and then there’s the way everyone else does it; tight rear loose front. (Lol)
@mouldy5156
@mouldy5156 3 жыл бұрын
a beefy rear would do more than a front swaybar could do by quite a margin. this is the experience i have.
@hagglundguy
@hagglundguy 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly he already has adjustable sway bars in the STI. He could put the rear on in a bit more stiffer setting and hit a few laps. If that alone does not satisfy the front could be loosened a notch. I've heard the STIs are understeer heavy and when they were rallied the drivers always trail braked their car mid corner to put weight on the front and introduce just a little oversteer. This also happens to be exactly what adjustable sway bars are for.
@dakotanapier5365
@dakotanapier5365 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Marty has stumbled across trail braking hahah I wonder if they will stumble across lift of oversteer ;)
@garagecedric
@garagecedric 3 жыл бұрын
The sti looks so frustrating do drive, the BRZ looks like a blast! .. Greay anyway with some mcm vids with actual car driving!
@nutsnproud6932
@nutsnproud6932 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me be a virtual passenger. It was fun to watch.
@steifan
@steifan 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a track battle with Speed Academy in the future in some way, would be fun xD (and far away...)
@ovidiscool
@ovidiscool 3 жыл бұрын
Marty to reduce understeer you can go back to a stock front sway bar and get a bigger rear bar. or get stiffer springs in the back aswell. also practicing steering/brake/accel timing to create the right weight transfer to oversteer is important as well.
@thethepete731
@thethepete731 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best.
@ClayWeber
@ClayWeber 3 жыл бұрын
Brz name: Barely Reaches Zoom
@trefod
@trefod 3 жыл бұрын
That was a very nice little 127 I'd have liked to see more of that.
@thisismossop
@thisismossop 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, glad someone else noticed.
@gregw9567
@gregw9567 3 жыл бұрын
A 127 was my first car, followed by a 124cc. Happy days.
@chrispietersen804
@chrispietersen804 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Marty, not sure what alignment you running but there are a few free tweaks you can try to help the under-stear situation. For the front: Run more toe out, try adding 0.2 (It will help turn in at the cost of stability), Softer front suspension, lower tyre pressures upfront (try 2 - 3 psi incremental), not too sure if you have front sway bar but going softer upfront will keep more tyre on the ground also run 2 - 2.5 degree camber. For the rear, do the opposite, Run toe in, adding 0.2 (having the wheels in opposite direction to the front will aid turn in), Harder rear suspension (It will break traction easier-ish) Higher rear tyre pressure (2 - 3 psi incremental), rear sway bar you want to stiffen up, keep the camber the same at the rear. Hope this helps buddy but you should see quite the difference. Love the show, Keep up the great work!
@JustinHughes54
@JustinHughes54 3 жыл бұрын
Marty: It's a rally car, so DRIVE it like a rally car! Use the throttle to pull the front out of the corners when it understeers. Simultaneous gas and brake with your left foot, rally style, will let you transfer weight and angle the car as sideways or not as you want. You definitely have the aggressiveness! Nice driving! Moog: You've got this. :)
@tugstanboat779
@tugstanboat779 3 жыл бұрын
I can hardly wait to see that K24 swap!
@1Jprios
@1Jprios 3 жыл бұрын
BRZ: Brazzers!! Best name Ever!
@stereoandy77
@stereoandy77 3 жыл бұрын
I know it’s off topic, but I just watched the entire supercharged mini series again. I would sure love to see you guys do a mk1 Volkswagen Golf/GTI build. So much engine bay to work with and so much classic track potential:)
@drewbus8680
@drewbus8680 3 жыл бұрын
Do you boys sim race? Cheap was to practice and hone your craft. Love your videos, keep up the great work!
@ChristopherOvrebo
@ChristopherOvrebo 3 жыл бұрын
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