"it's just colors and shit. I don't find it that useful". - Hop visiting fancy art galleries probably.

The unspoken rule of owning a thermal camera, you must record yourself pissing once purchased. Pretty neat little cam, I liked your out of the ordinary tests like the printer and the toilet lol.

So what you’re saying is that I should definitely get one of these and mount it to my helmet instead of saving for a PVS-14, right?

You should've used the marking mode when you were taking a whizz so you could get those Call of Duty hit markers on your pee stream.

Static observation is exactly what this is for. A friend and I were discussing night vision vs thermal. Two advantages to thermal that I could think of right away. One, it works in the day time. If somebody or some animal was hiding in the brush, you could still see their heat signature. Night vision wouldn't see anything. Two, somebody with night vision who is looking at you, doesn't have a big IR illuminator (in the middle of your face) to aim at. Thermal devices give off no IR signature.

Dude you are no bullshit, your channel needs to explode with followers ASAP nicely done!

I know a guy who uses this exact budget thermal monocular for boar hunting, he uses it to identify heat signatures and switches to his night vision scope to identify the animal and take the shot if its a boar. I hear it works well for him.

"So basically there's only 5 guys working in US night vision, and they just make a new company every couple of years when they get bored." literally made me spit out my drink lmao.

Fusion is what we use at work for checking bearing and pump temperatures - it makes it extremely clear where you need to be looking at the machinery, even for people who are untrained, while still providing a clear image. Not sure that I would use it for any kind of target identification role, however.

I absolutely love the no-nonsense information and delivery juxtaposed with some significant nonsense like Hop taking a leak in thermal and even showing us a close-up of the result. Even that information could be useful but still, I always enjoy Hop's content even if the product isn't something I need.

I have one. I think it's pretty neat. I've tried walking around at night with it. It's pretty hard. The best use case is probably varmint hunting at night where you use the thermal to locate the varmint, and then use a spot light or weapon light to take the shot, and positively ID the animal, if it was too far to ID with the thermal. Another use case that has occurred to me, but that I haven't tried yet, is for tracking animals that have been shot, but maybe didn't drop right away. It seems that it should make find a blood trail at night much easier. One limiting factor to thermals that I think is worth mentioning is that they can't see through glass.

boog boys with 20k+ NOD's setups geting wiped by a boomer with 30/06 with thermal straped on which he got with his stimy money at 500yd

A really useful thing to use budget thermal stuff for is to look at your electrical wiring in your home for hot spots. Sometimes in older homes your outlet could be getting too hot due to a poor connection or corrosion on the contacts, lets you see if there is a brewing issue before it becomes a fire hazard. Also, quite useful in chasing down pluming leaks if you have one.

You could also look for heat loss in your home to know where to improve insulation.

I didn't realize how bad I needed this thing that I didn't know existed until now

its a shame TFB TV isint giving you a shoutout

The "fusion" mode on thermal cameras isn't great for tactical use but personally I find it useful when using a thermal camera as a diagnostic tool. Something about the colors makes the difference between "atmospheric temperature, nothing here" and "HEAT" a lot more discrete.

Great Job Mr Hop! Really helpful summary of thermal pros and cons and of this device in particular! Good,job, thanks Kindly!

Own one. Absolutely love it for the reasons you had mentioned. One thing to remember, night vision will see a IR illuminator. Thermal vision does not.

I had use such devices when protected Kyiv from russians. Because we had no other devices. You cannot walk with thermals, especially in forest. Always someone had to hold a man with thermal and lead him. But, in tranches thermals work well. Some times it detects glass as warm objects. In some conditions we couldn't recognise real distance to object. So, i think that better to have both termal and night vision.

Thanks

Love the videos! Looking forward to a video on the MEPC carrier!

Thank you for all the good no nonsense reviews. Really helps compare.

Thank-you! I have been thinking about getting one of these to pair with my PVS14. I have a pretty solid PVS14, and use it to aim my weapon, but the thermal would be very good for detecting animals in the woodline easily, for better scrutiny under i2. I don't plan to PID with thermal, just "alert". Further, I'd like to use it to trace thermal leaks in my house during this winter. *Pair with as in use together on a lanyard or something, not HMT it along side my 14.

The best review of this product I’ve found!!

You know, you have a specific use case for night vision devices, and don't see the benefit to other people. This thermal device, to me, seems ideal for checking the dark areas of my large yard at night for animals or miscreants. And as far as the mode with the colors in it, it's handy for differentiating between temperatures for diagnosing component issues in electronics. It's easier for people to discern differences in color than shades of grey. As far as your use case goes, though, you seem spot on.

HOP!! Didn’t know you had a channel outside TFB. Love your content, looking forward to future vids. I have the Scout; I like it but don’t really have a basis for comparison. I 3D printed a mount for it which is marginally functional

Notice me, Hop.

This was extremely helpful, thank you

Thanks hop always great content.

An hour’s-worth of info in under 10 minutes... about par for a Hop video.👍🏻👍🏻

I have tm384 and I can spot a blob of military planes with no lights about 11km+ in the sky where as my pvs14 won't see a thing. I also identified a chinook about 5 miles out.

I've had one for a few months. It's best application is static observation as you went over. You could def rig something up to head mount, it's been done, it's just not ideal. For the price it's banging.

Always with the quality content. 👍

I use one of these working security. It does well detecting tramps sleeping in the weeds, checking vehicles to determine length of time on site.

I really enjoy this channel!

locating a fresh carcass in thick brush would be a good use for one of these. you can see alot from 20 ft up a tree, but once your on the ground you can walk right past a dead deer. If you lung shot one they don't leave much blood, or if you shoot one in the rain, it can wash away the blood. if the animal runs through standing water, even if it's only an inch deep, they won't leave a blood trail. Over the years i've had 3 deer that i haven't recovered. All 3 were due to weather preventing or washing out a blood trail. 2 were bucks that i found the blood, but it was washed away/covered before i could fully track the deer. neither was a perfect hit, one was paunch shot, and the other was a lung hit. The third was a doe, and she ran through a wetland area that had about 2 inches of water standing everywhere, so there was no blood trail at all. I spent hours looking for all of them. we did eventually find the doe, but it was several weeks later.

Great info and well presented.

Extremely good review. Just bought one for work but the novelty uses are more captivating lol

So what's your opinion on the Flir Breach? I got it set up as "Binos" alongside my PVS 14. The Breach is great for discovery of stuff and the pvs helps identifying said stuff + Im able to do gun things and navigating through terrain without walking into trees

Fusion mode is just Predator vision.

As usual from your well balanced videos, I'm torn between buying one of these, and not...

I have an ATN 4K X Pro 3-14 digital night sight for shooting. I’m trying this monocular for static observations for pest control. I’ll let you know how it works out. I got mine at Focus Camera.

Excellent review.

This was great. Thank you!

Nice review , thanks for your work ! I could use this to see what the hell my dogs are barking at, at night .

Peeing on thermocam, outstanding, Subscribed.

This is gonna work great,I know my neighbors have been sneaking in my house to take a shit while I'm gone.

Great video 👏👏 well done! 👍🇨🇦

Remember seeing this stuff on the 1980s first predator movie as a kid. I want this inside my helmet now!!!!

If this channel was a stock it would be set to skyrocket

Is it a good tool to have in your pocket for a quick scan for life forms while using actual night vision? To supplement a pvs14 basically. Use as a spotter for further inquiry with the nod’s

Great flow.. lmfao, nice stream. As I'm getting older I'm finding that something to appreciate 😂

I have a AGM PVS 14 3rd gen monocular, pulsar helion xp50 pro 2, flir breach and they are amazing looking thru at night.

well done man, SUBBED!

I’m so glad I stumbled onto your channel you should have way more subs than you do

I told you, you should do a comparison of 1500ish thermal and night vision like a agm 384 and atn nvm different use cases but thermal has recently made it a interesting comparison.

Nicely done.

Hop's always the hottest thing in the image if you know what I mean

The color is to show a much broader spectrum oh heat sources typically useful in industrial settings

Do you think this would work to spot animals along fence rows in the winter (think lots of snow) or open field? This would be small game (fox/rabbit etc). I don’t need to identify the animal by the image- only that there is an animal there, in the snow, up to 200 yards away (what would be max range for this application) . Thoughts?

So I'm looking for a thermal mainly for the purpose of squatching. I'd like to be able to identify from about 200 yards. What's a good relatively low priced thermal for this?

Now I want one.

cool stuff 👍

I like your review, pretty thorough. Late for the party here.

great channel

FYI The AGM ASP is worthless over 90 degrees Fahrenheit (gotta love nighttime lows of 80 plus). The colder the night the more this thing works, but that might be obvious. Any rate I love mine.

Finally found your channel

Here’s a thought. With a PVS-14 you can easily just close one eye to look through the hand held thermal for finding targets, and then just look at them (and engage them) normally with the PVS-14 and laser

Will detect small cat-sized animals in trees at night? I don't intend to shoot with it, but some help in locating which tree the brushtail possum (in New Zealand) is hiding will help a lot.

Can anyone tell me how well you can see snakes through devices like this? They should be the same temp as their surroundings right?

Th thermal TM-160 might be a step up from My torrey pines or my leuoplo that don't record at all, It could be used for security with the recording. With all the money I spent on a bunch of low budget thermal and NV stuff, I could of have a (ONE ITEM) very good NV or Thermal.

Roughly what was the outdoor temperature when you did your tests?

I bought a 1/4 inch camera picatinny rail mount for this monocular. If you put it in between your irons and have a cold/hot weapon and go to the inverse outside, it will pick up the silhouette of the front nicely but the viability is very poor.

Three questions. The first one is you sound like the guy from Suspicious Observers. That is not you is it? The second question is if it's October can I see the deer during the day? I would like to use it just to spot them easier since they blend in so good. Also on the fur you have to take it back to the manufacturer to get the battery changed once it's done being able to charge. Is it the same thing with this one? Thanks. You are a very good speaker.

Great stream. A urologist would approve

I was actually interested in this thing but I was afraid it would be like night vision where you need to dump thousands or you get sightmark tier shit

Use case scenario: Helmet mount is out of the question, but what about mounting it to a paintball gun as a cheap thermal scope? - does it see IR Lasers? I'm thinking no by the video but I couldn't tell

What you need to do is pair that with a gen 3 pvs14 so you can become the actual predator

1996: Peeing Calvin 2021: Peeing Hop

how long does the battery charge last?

so, I'm not a hunter but am an avid wildlife photographer, there are some dense forests not far from me where I know there are owls... but when I go looking for them, not at night, but during the daytime... the trees are sooooo dense that the sunlight doesn't even come through. I'm trying to find a device to help me spot birds, especially owls in that scenario I described, will the AGM TM-160 be a good option?

Bro ur awesome n make me laugh.. make it to arlington Texas..hit me up.. we will go pop some rounds. Keep up the great work

I will agree to disagree on that 1. I have mounted to a bump helmet. and I prefer it over my pvs 14. But I'm also using it for Coyote hunting And if you have the setting correctly where it finds the hotspots anything 200 yd it's going to find it.. Something I just purchased running into its paces but the things that I'm finding it's amazing for the price point. I own 3 night vision scopes . A PVS14 in white phosphorus That's $2400 right there . And a Is ATN Thor LT 4x8 And it is kicking the c*** out of It thermal wise . For spotting and then getting onto it with your night vision it's the way to go 100% for entry product

I own one and I've moved on to a dedicated weaponsight which can be used for multiple purposes.

I have the FLIR TK SCOUT. I like it. serves it"s purpose.

3:10 "...traditional thermal modes that you remember from call of duty..." Jokes on you Hop, i remember it from that totally real "Stalker vs Zombie" viral video.

Some of the higher end digital thermal is actually very good. Sig now makes a digital thermal riflescope, and there's a few other companies doing so as well. Digital thermal has the advantage of being able to gather from a much wider electromagnetic spectrum than digital nightvision so it doesn't suffer the slow amplification and processing times, and will spot targets in a zero light environment. And, as you can see, even with this cheap stuff you still have enough contrast to see terrain and other things crucial to navigation. So we're right on the cusp of a revolution, where traditional nightvision will be superseded, at least in civilian use, by much more versatile digital thermal for less money. Higher end digital thermal also doesn't really care how far away the target is; if it's emitting heat, you WILL see it even if it's not visible on traditional nightvision.

Perfectly suits my need of threat detection at night. Will assess urine detection after purchase.

Does anyone know a camera like this but have the possibility for an external display?

$400? Sold! As a long range ‘yote finder. Get them closer and switch to IR. Put one right between the glowing dots.

the fusion mode reminds me of how the "Predator" sees

Try the 388 12 micron model it ain't half bad and seems to work where the 160 fails also good in complete darkness only downside is LCOS display is not weather rated for extreme cold but I live in Texas only one week this year it might of been a problem at half the price of pvs-14 one can see in no light

Could this monocular be used like a thermal camera for checking heat leakage from doors, windows, water leakage etc? Great review, thanks

Still going to hold out until I see thermals at this price point but with much higher resolution.

So, I can use this to spot Bigfoot taking a big piss in the woods. Sweet.

You opened your freezer during a defrost cycle. Also fusion mode is for stuff like analyzing circuit traces and refrigerant lines, stuff like that

$1500 to look for cats in the neighborhood? Sold!

Love your videos, and not assuming everyone can afford 50,000$ pano nvgs