Build and Quick Review of One of HO Scale's Tiniest Kits - Cosmic AEG Deki 3

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Darth Santa Fe

Darth Santa Fe

Жыл бұрын

BUYER'S NOTE: People are trying to sell these on eBay for $200 + international shipping even though you can get these semi-regularly from Hobby Search in Japan for 1/3rd the price. If HS is out of stock, just place a backorder and give them a little time. Waiting a couple extra weeks can save you over $100!
Althought I've seen smaller models than this, I think this is the tiniest fully motorized kit I've ever come across in HO scale! Cosmic is a small Japanese manufacturer with an affordable line of products, and if this kit is any indication, they're good quality and well engineered. You can find their products at Hobby Search (1999.co.jp, mostly nerdy stuff but they have a good selection of model railroad products), and you may have to wait a few weeks for some things to be delivered.
This is my first video with my new editing software. I still need more practice with it and need to make some adjustments, but I think the video came out pretty well overall!

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@bluebear6570
@bluebear6570 Жыл бұрын
Just a word to the prototype - it was an industrial loco designed and built by the German company AEG (Allgemeine Elektrizitäts-Gesellschaft) in the early 1900s. Both narrow gauge and standard gauge variants were available. A 9mm NG version us available from Hallig/Austria, following a prototype which ran on the Mixnitz to St. Erhard railway in Austria. This type of loco was introduced in the 1890s and became a bestseller world-wide. Japanese kits in general are extremely well engineered. They all fit well and usually require very little glueing or soldering.
@mobahartenholm9289
@mobahartenholm9289 Жыл бұрын
Hy . I just find your chanel. I do realy enjoying what I see. Im realy curious of all videos. I'm 62 years old and collecting model railroad for nearly 50 years. But I had also a break, so I can emagine whats going on in your case. Congratulations to find back to this hobby. I live in Germany nearby the baltic see. So excuse my bumpy writing. I restart my layout in dcc, so I have to convert all of my lokos from dc to dcc. That will take a time. And Im realy interesting in maintanace and reparingmethods all over the workd. I've learnd a lot on youtube. And even from your videos. Thank you for getting this chance. Regards from northern germany, Rainer
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
I’m glad my videos have been helpful to you and hope your DCC conversions go well!
@debbiemilka2251
@debbiemilka2251 Жыл бұрын
Darth, This is just fabulous ! I found this project to be engrossing. Working in such tiny detail. I loved every bit of it. Having the little AEG Deki 3 pull six hoppers and a caboose was the icing on the cake ! All I can say is "Wow !" 5 stars !
@beltfed4624
@beltfed4624 Жыл бұрын
You seem like the kind of modeller that would absolutely be a pleasure to work with and be around. I take my time, think, discuss and double-check slowly and carefully, but more often than not, my fellow modellers are not very fun to be around (know-it-alls). I enjoyed your video very much, subbing. And I rarely use this word, but that little runner is adorable. 👍🏻
@arrow1414
@arrow1414 Жыл бұрын
As I think I mentioned before here, I would, if you have room, put in a "keep alive" capacitor to keep it from stalling on the frogs or slightly dirty track; and smooth out the starts and stops a little and greater creep performance.
@ericfehser6447
@ericfehser6447 9 ай бұрын
I just built tis, and it really is that easy. Fantastic kit. A quick note for others who, like me, use Kadee whisker couplers- you must use the no5 box, the new style box will not fit.
@richardphillips3437
@richardphillips3437 Жыл бұрын
Total respect for construction using those limited instructions. Way beyond my capabilities !
@nscaledelights
@nscaledelights Жыл бұрын
Even though I dont run HO instead I run N scale really enjoyed this video so much.
@trr94001
@trr94001 Жыл бұрын
That is a really neat little kit. I wish there were more US prototype kits like this.
@ldmbtt
@ldmbtt Жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful model! The video is very good and the quality of the shots is great P.S. You forgot to put two washers, one on each side of the worm gears. Washers are included in the sheet.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I did see the washers and figured they went there, but the worm spacing is tight enough with the chassis on mine that they wouldn't have fit. I'm sure there are others where the worms are pressed on slightly further and would need the washers.
@SCL3618
@SCL3618 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else take the dive on the Hobby Search rabbit hole! Haven't quite been brave enough to pull the trigger on one of these or the steam kits.
@dallasgibson7578
@dallasgibson7578 Жыл бұрын
Cool little loco, Im sure you could fit a small flywheel in there to make it run just that much smoother, the motor shaft looks the perfect length for it, too
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
There may be enough room for a small flywheel, and that would improve performance across those switches.
@awolfalone2006
@awolfalone2006 Жыл бұрын
A small capacitor may help as well.
@antonbruce1241
@antonbruce1241 Жыл бұрын
Great little runner! And I'm surprised with its pulling power. I might have to check this thing out.... Nice work, and thanks!
@Gfysimpletons
@Gfysimpletons 10 ай бұрын
😊 in the 1960’s that would have been $1.99-$4.99
@edwardblieka8411
@edwardblieka8411 Жыл бұрын
I have an older railbus kit of this type and your build of this kit is going to be very helpful for me, thanks! By the way the overhead pick up you chose is called a bow (not common in the US) ! The other one is a trolley pole , the disc at the end being a roller wheel pickup rather than a sliding shoe type!
@vincenttolve9756
@vincenttolve9756 Жыл бұрын
An excellent job of building and superb videography. as well. Thanks for adding to my modelling education.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's definitely a lot different from working on your large scale trains!
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@DarthSantaFe eyes sore?
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses Жыл бұрын
That is quite tiny! And really does seem to be exceptionally well designed. It would be interesting to compare it in size to the Precision Scale Co. (formerly Kemtron) "Thomas Flyer rail car" kit, which might be smaller but I'm sure doesn't run anywhere near as well as this one does.
@markwilliams2620
@markwilliams2620 Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Since everyone has tips..... Working above an automotive magnetic dish keeps dropped screws from disappearing. The Milwaukee built a similar critter on top of a recycled Fairbanks Morse C-Liner truck. The used it to switch stuff in a yard in their electrified Lines West. After they tore down the wires they ran it on an extension cord.
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il 10 ай бұрын
Honorable Bonsai locomotive-san! Coupla points 1) The "pantographs"- The one you installed is known as a bow which was uncommon in North America. The other is a trolley pole with either a slider or wheel contacting the overhead 2) There was a US prototype for a tiny 0-B-0 steeple cab the "Joe Cushing" - "Built by GE in 1893 as 650 volt DC only; Built for Columbian Exposition then sold to Manufacturers RR 12/1896; in 1901 rebuilt by GE c/n 1607; Once fell through open draw into the Quinnipiac River when Tomlinson bridge opened unexpectedly; Sold to Joe Cushing RR as #1 in 1905" and "1 was built by General Electric in 1893, #1437, for General Electric for the Columbian Exposition. It was sold as Manufacturer RR 1 in 1893 and became New York New Haven & Hartford RR 1. It was rebuilt by GE in 1901, #1607, and sold as JCRR 1 in 1905. It was purchased by GE for preservation in 1948 and given to National Museum of Transportation in 1964." i.imgur.com/OYOfr7f.jpg i.imgur.com/O9A96BM.jpg 3) Kato makes overhead you can install, Other European manufacturers offer catenary, but in my opinion, its the sort of installation you would have on a heavy electrified mainline. Kato's offering is much more what you would have on a traction or industrial system. You would probably only need one pack for an industrial line. Many power plants used units like this (they already made the juice) to move loaded and empty hopper cars of coal, send fly ash to a dumping site and switch the occasional shipment of electrical gear for repair at the factory or to upgrade the plant. Joe was used to serve a textile plant's power house and to switch loaded and emply box casrs to and from the interchange and loading docks.
@donaldlamendola8294
@donaldlamendola8294 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and I love the look!!!! Thank you for sharing, and please keep up the good work!!!
@BCHonea
@BCHonea Жыл бұрын
What a fabulous little kit, well done
@Christiane069
@Christiane069 10 ай бұрын
Very well done. Interesting model.
@Thierry787
@Thierry787 11 ай бұрын
Very amazing little engine !! so cute, i love so much !
@kevinparson5208
@kevinparson5208 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That is a wonderfully designed model. Great video.
@andrewpalm2103
@andrewpalm2103 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great kit and loco. With the trolley pole option this would look great on my little layout. Cheers from Wisconsin!
@ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains
@ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains Жыл бұрын
What a great little kit and model! Gosh I wish some of the other brass kit builders would take note of the designed and construction features of this kit.
@joshuatoro8977
@joshuatoro8977 Жыл бұрын
your lettering looks just like to Chattahoochee industry railroad I love your lettering I'm going to have to learn how to make the same ones for my Chattahoochee industry railroad Thank you for posting
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I use Microscale #90031 Condensed Roman.
@Thierry787
@Thierry787 Жыл бұрын
Really cute engine, amazing product !
@FunWithHOScaleStuff
@FunWithHOScaleStuff Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video presentation and excellent thumbnail image. I've been trying to get proficient with Shotcut editing software so I appreciate that level of difficulty. You seem to have no problem with your edits. Thanks for sharing this tiny origami model.
@blairmielnik8228
@blairmielnik8228 Жыл бұрын
The electrical aspect of this was the most interesting- brass etched kits can be treacherous with all the metal and trying to feed insulated contacts to the wheels and thread through to the motor. The fact that this one uses bronze pickups that pass right through the brass frame and contacts the motor without solder boggles my mind.
@davidstokes8441
@davidstokes8441 6 ай бұрын
I have vague recollection of seeing this little loco starring in a Model Railroader article decades ago.
@wizlish
@wizlish Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that DeKi is the Japanese abbreviation for 'electric locomotive' (something like Denki Kikansha). See the history of the Choshi Denki Tetsudō...
@isaacwatanabe9599
@isaacwatanabe9599 Жыл бұрын
In my limited experience with japanese models, they are very well made. Especially plastic models. No flash at all and a lot less cleaning up needed
@williamsantangelo
@williamsantangelo Жыл бұрын
Little Buggers neat! Thank You!
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын
Best way to get around short wheelbase electrical contact issues ... live trolley wire with return path through both rails! 😁
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
tricky part will be pantograpgh, insulation and function
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын
@@billfusionenterprise Both yes and no. Has been done for decades with limited run brass electric traction. Insulated mounting with its own wire to motor; I'd use a different and more flexible pantograph, or even a trolley pole.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@scottfw7169 I just look at the included one and don't think it would work
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын
@@billfusionenterprise It looks to have no spring for keeping pressure on wire as relationship/geometry between wire and locomotive varies, so, yes, either some serious modification to the kit or just use a different one seems required.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@scottfw7169 plus it would need a more proper head
@theplumber33
@theplumber33 Жыл бұрын
Sweet kit!!! 💯✌️
@garyjust.johnson1436
@garyjust.johnson1436 Жыл бұрын
Good job!
@nostalgiccameralife
@nostalgiccameralife 10 ай бұрын
The same mechanism is sold by ARU. I use it for some of my models of early steam locomotives.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe 10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen those Aru mechanisms around lately, and since this is Cosmic’s only powered kit as far as I know, it makes sense that they would source a good chassis from another manufacturer.
@milgeekmedia
@milgeekmedia Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to watch. I'm considering the N gauge version of this (by a different company) though - thank goodness - it comes pre-built! :)
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that they’ve been able to make these in N scale! You’d have to have some really fine tools if those were sold as kits like this one.
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 Жыл бұрын
Cute little German built E-lok.
@MikeG42
@MikeG42 Жыл бұрын
Cute little loco. CIRR must be the Chattahoochee Industrial Railroad
@Mauscmkwk
@Mauscmkwk Жыл бұрын
Might I suggest getting some tamiya side cutters they are excellent at cutting through photo etch
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’ll have to check into that!
@sakuchihafuku4260
@sakuchihafuku4260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a Japanese locomotive.
@astridvallati4762
@astridvallati4762 7 ай бұрын
The 1/80 Scale, or HOj, is a compromise to Represent Japanese 3'6" using HO 16,5mmTrack....proper 1/87 would require 12mm Track for correct Scale-Gauge relationship.
@JoseLopez-xb1mx
@JoseLopez-xb1mx 11 ай бұрын
Long time viewer first time commenter. Would a DCC decoder be possible in this? Love this kit! Great work as always!
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe 11 ай бұрын
Yup, a small decoder can be fit in the cab! All you have to do is wire the pickups to go to the decoder instead, and then the decoder can go back to the motor.
@David-yo5re
@David-yo5re Жыл бұрын
I love it. I can't believe it has enough heft and torque to pull 7 cars so easily. How much does it weigh and I also wonder how many cars it can pull before losing traction.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
It's a few ounces, but I don't have a small scale on hand to check right now. The wheels were close to slipping with those 7, but I think I could get one more behind it.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@DarthSantaFe could add some weight to it, be tricky, but can help. I had this bachmann blue van that did much better with a weight on the roof
@leechowning8728
@leechowning8728 Жыл бұрын
When you first tested it, and wondered out loud if it could really haul all that, I almost felt it heard you.
@ACE324MINER
@ACE324MINER Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind telling how did you managed to get this thing ship to the US? Proxy shopping service? Or did you get lucky and find it on another site?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Hobby Search has DHL and other international options available. I picked DHL since it was the cheapest next to sea freight, and that would've taken 2 or 3 months for a savings of about $2!
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars Жыл бұрын
Nice train
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын
Now, what kind of fun could the On30 and the Gn15 crews have with it ... 🤔
@GerardScroogeGoes
@GerardScroogeGoes Жыл бұрын
Try the translate function on your phone for the manual, does wonders reading the manual first :)
@jamessnyder3052
@jamessnyder3052 Жыл бұрын
Very cool nice job man I have som questions to ask you about a bowser challenger
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Just send an email to darthsantafe@gmail.com and I'll see how I can help!
@kge420
@kge420 Жыл бұрын
Very cool little kit. It looks like the wheels are out of gauge. Too narrow? Thanks for the fun build.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
The gauge is actually correct. The axles were very precisely built right out of the box.
@marka5478
@marka5478 Жыл бұрын
I would feel a little mode comfortable if the ends of the drive shafts had a least a collar type bushing.
@RTek1986
@RTek1986 Жыл бұрын
What is the knife you use to cut some of the brass tabs?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
It's a Testors hobby knife. I think it came in a starter pack with some other hobby supplies and tools probably 20 years ago.
@hudj3a359
@hudj3a359 Жыл бұрын
i was exactly in the process of making similar content, i’ll be covering the Aru-Model B tank engine brass etching kit in the near future as well check them out if you’re interested in similar kits to these!
@micoasters
@micoasters Жыл бұрын
How much did that smalll 25 toner kit cost? I’ve seen the shell but how much did the whole thing cost?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
The 25-tonner was a powered Grandt Line kit. At the time, the whole kit was $50.
@micoasters
@micoasters Жыл бұрын
@@DarthSantaFe ah ok. They sell the shells on ebay but you have to buy the powerd truck separately. Ima look for one since I'm going to a trainshow on Saturday
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@micoasters you might find a full kit which has the motor
@jwhiskey242
@jwhiskey242 Жыл бұрын
Photo etched - not for the faint of heart.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Usually yes, but this one's so well engineered that it was easier to put together than a plastic or diecast model!
@superdave6889
@superdave6889 Жыл бұрын
looks like it is based off the old English Electric Type 3B Battery Electric Shunter (some IRL were full electric instead of battery)
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
It is similar to many steeple cab switchers from around that period, but it was actually based directly off this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%8Dshi_Electric_Railway_Line#/media/File:Choshi-Electric-Railway-deki3.jpg
@robertswickard8355
@robertswickard8355 Жыл бұрын
Could you put in a N-SCALE 2 amp. DDC decoder in it ?????
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
There is plenty of room inside for an N scale decoder.
@michaelquinones-lx6ks
@michaelquinones-lx6ks Жыл бұрын
BANZAI!!
@hjmiller2689
@hjmiller2689 Жыл бұрын
Darth, WHEN ARE WE GETTING AN UPDATE ON YOUR NEW LAYOUT?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Eventually! No timeline on that right now, but I have some ideas and want to get to work on it this year if I can.
@enginecrzy
@enginecrzy Жыл бұрын
How about a Fairmont speeder???
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
I bought one a while back but haven't found a motor yet that can hide inside of it. I might have to just put some kind of a box load or something to cover a slightly too large motor.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
bachmann has made one, powered with two trailing cars
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
@@billfusionenterprise I remember that one! They had to make a big divider in the middle to fit the motor, yet somehow made it so it didn't look too out of place.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@DarthSantaFe there is also a MOW truck. I also have several other motorized MOW
@stevepringle2295
@stevepringle2295 Жыл бұрын
Cutie Pie engine😊
@edgarmatzinger9742
@edgarmatzinger9742 Жыл бұрын
Nice, although over engineered, kit! Now fit a DCC or similar board in it...
@P61guy61
@P61guy61 Жыл бұрын
Would. Capacitor help with switches?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Possibly! The motor doesn’t need much power to keep running.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
trick is wiring with power switching in DC
@jacksullivan3705
@jacksullivan3705 Жыл бұрын
What kind of flux do you use?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
I use Kester liquid rosin no-clean flux.
@tmfe1986
@tmfe1986 Жыл бұрын
future layout expansion in the background? :D
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Yup! They've been waiting a few years now, but I think I'm close to figuring out how to put it together.
@tmfe1986
@tmfe1986 Жыл бұрын
@@DarthSantaFe looking forward to see those trackplans then! any idea on how are you going to conect the expansion? considering you don't have a turnout that leads outside your current trackplan
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
@@tmfe1986 I'm going to try to replace a couple of the curved pieces with turnouts. Finding the best fitting turnouts for the 22" radius is the hard part, but once that's done, I can double the length of the large loop.
@ralphconcepcion1387
@ralphconcepcion1387 Жыл бұрын
WOW awesome, can you build one for me😂
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
If you get one and send it over then I can have it done in no time! It really is an easy kit though, so I’m sure you can do it too!
@enginecrzy
@enginecrzy Жыл бұрын
you might try a text translator app for your phone that could help you out with the Japanese...
@EdwinsTrains
@EdwinsTrains Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to add rivets?
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Micro-Mark makes rivet decals that work well for this kind of thing.
@hudj3a359
@hudj3a359 Жыл бұрын
scribers might work as well!
@EdwinsTrains
@EdwinsTrains Жыл бұрын
@@DarthSantaFe Ok, I'll try them.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
I think there is a tool for it
@rickyl7231
@rickyl7231 Жыл бұрын
I think my freelance Interurban might have found a new design for a “shop built” freight motor…
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, lets see ... if the locomotive scale is 1/80 that makes the 16.5mm gauge HO gauge track equal to 52 inch gauge in proportion to the locomotive.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's right between HO and 00. Kato also makes their bullet trains to 1/80, so I guess it's common over there.
@PrinzEugen176
@PrinzEugen176 Жыл бұрын
HOj tends to be a little wonk in that department, as Japan majorly runs 3ft 6in gauge trains, with 4ft 8 1/2in being used mostly on bullet train lines, so they ended up scaling in the middle, where both 3ft6 and 4ft8 look passible, in the same way 00's track is out of scale with the models
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Жыл бұрын
@@PrinzEugen176 Ahh, thanks! And that does have a certain logic to it.
@micoasters
@micoasters Жыл бұрын
That small of a motor is wants used in a Xbox controller for the rumble
@enginecrzy
@enginecrzy Жыл бұрын
some model slot cars have very small motors too.
@billfusionenterprise
@billfusionenterprise Жыл бұрын
@@enginecrzy n scale, z scale?
@jeremyjohnson457
@jeremyjohnson457 Жыл бұрын
Here's a challenge for you DCC it
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
I only run DC, but if I ever get to running DCC then I'm sure it can be done!
@capnclawhammer3024
@capnclawhammer3024 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this could be kitbashed to produce a railcar/railcart or some such? Sorry, just pipedreaming.
@mobius8002
@mobius8002 Жыл бұрын
fit a dc stay alive in it .
@WWIIREBEL
@WWIIREBEL Жыл бұрын
This particular model is going for 200 bucks on ebay now...grrrr.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe Жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely don’t get this one from eBay. Some of those import sellers charge a lot for no good reason. These are still in production, so you can back order at Hobby Search and get it for the correct price: www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10235533
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