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Buying Acura Integra type S in Miami

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Moon Rocks Chop Shop

Moon Rocks Chop Shop

9 ай бұрын

Went into DORAL ACURA to purchase 1 of 3 Acura Integra type S they had posted at MSRP on Facebook marketplace and had a rather unpleasant experience. This dealership, aside from the false advertising online, don’t really have any regard for the person about to spend 50k + on one of their vehicles. The manager of the dealership could care less. And the supposed owner even less, avoid this dealer if you don’t like to get RIPPED OFF

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@kwesiwilliams1188
@kwesiwilliams1188 9 ай бұрын
If everyone were like you, the market would instantly go back how it was pre covid. You did the right thing and even if it takes you having to go to 10 dealerships to get the deal you're comfortable with, then do be it. When people pay that $10,000+ markup, it encourages dealerships to price gouge like they've been doing. Looking forward to seeing you get the car at msrp.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Agree 💯 thanks for the support
@kwesiwilliams1188
@kwesiwilliams1188 9 ай бұрын
@moonrockschopshop I support people that tell other people to stand their ground for the right thing. I believe what you're doing helps the consumer wise up and realize that it's all a game, but play it to win and not to lose.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
@@kwesiwilliams1188 facts
@maxelnoyl3597
@maxelnoyl3597 8 ай бұрын
I definitely agree that it isn’t right for the dealer to markup the price. The problem is if they didn’t mark up the price there would be businesses and individuals that would essentially act as scalpers and buy them and resell them at a higher price. We saw this with the PS5 and other goods that the supply couldn’t satisfy the demand. Right now the market has spoken and msrp for the type r or type s is fair. The problem I have is how the dealerships are misleading and add in fees markups etc to trick consumers. Thank you for the content!
@TheAlienvspredator3
@TheAlienvspredator3 9 ай бұрын
Power to you brotha 👏🏽 reminds me of a time when my local Toyota marked up a Camry XSE $12k over MSRP… 😭😂
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Unbelievable
@davidbattaglia2336
@davidbattaglia2336 9 ай бұрын
That grey is amazing.
@raymondleung6
@raymondleung6 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative! This is the 4th video I've watched of yours! Instant subscribe! 💯
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 6 ай бұрын
Hey thanks man I appreciate it . More to come
@downtownab
@downtownab 9 ай бұрын
Preaching the truth. I had red flags talking to an Acura dealership in Dallas that said we would have to “get the numbers right” before letting me test drive one. I was like “what does that mean in English? I’m not paying over msrp.”
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, don’t let them scam you
@anthonyfarias998
@anthonyfarias998 9 ай бұрын
Its a shame what these dealers are doing to these cars. The manufacturers make these cars for people like you and me. The problem is that in a few years Acura/Honda/VW/Toyota etc won’t see strong sales numbers and they discontinue these special machines cause there isn’t enough “demand”. Bullshit, we want the cars but not at these absurd dealer markups…good on you and good hunting. I’ll be on the lookout for your video when you make your purchase. The Liquid Carbon Metallic is a stunner.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy, will definitely find one at fair price and I wanna help everyone who wants one get into one too
@prm5798
@prm5798 9 ай бұрын
I got one at MSRP, with no forced add ons. I do all the negotiating on text, email, and phone call.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
@@prm5798 congrats I’ll be there soon
@kayashimz
@kayashimz 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real, there's so many people that NEED to hear this! I've been standing my ground and giving these dealerships real numbers and showing them that these markups are not justified. It's crazy how full of s*** these salesmen are, telling me that the Integra Type S goes for $62k, and I quickly correct him that it's $52k, currently selling at sticker price at other dealerships. How does the FL5 still have a $10k markup, another dealership 5 miles away still has a $20k markup when there's 8 FL5's within 20 miles of me that aren't selling from $48.9-49.9 and listed 78 days ago?!? What does this suggest? Their argument is that there's only a limited supply of them being released and that they hold their values. Evidently not, especially if someone paid a $15-20k markup and could only sell it back to the dealership for $40k after 2k miles driven. Two years ago, I traded in my 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport for $36k, and I bought it used for $29k 7 months prior. The market is changing, there's a recession looming, interest rates are through the roof, and auto loans are becoming much harder to get approved for because of all of the delinquent accounts from bad loans during the pandemic. Btw, TrueCar does not honor their advertised prices either. Many of which advertise the MSRP, but once you contact them, it's $15-20k over sticker. I contacted TrueCar about the false advertisements and they threatened to remove the dealer from their site if their prices weren't advertised correctly. TrueCar told me that they can contact only the dealership that I wanted to do business with if I can commit to purchasing it from them. IMHO, I don't want to do business with a dealership only because they've been threatened by a third party to do business with me. They don't deserve our business, and I wouldn't trust a dealership halfway across the country when they're already showing hostility with the transaction.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 7 ай бұрын
I see you’ve been through it as well… don’t lose hope tho, I think change is on the way
@1anre
@1anre 8 ай бұрын
Good thing you're documenting this for other enthusiasts to see Butbis it possible to travel our florida to buy your TypeR/TypeS at MSRP. I think RaceCarFriends here on KZfaq bought his boost blue FL5 Type R at MSRP you know
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 8 ай бұрын
Thanks bro, I know it’s possible to probably go out of state but , I there’s plenty of dealers here that I can still go to so I’ll do that for now
@MiKEYFRESHBEATZ_MGMPrintz
@MiKEYFRESHBEATZ_MGMPrintz 9 ай бұрын
FACTS BROOOOO!!! MAD LOVE TO YOU G!!! i almost pulled the trigger too!! smh I cant believe I almost did. Thank you for the video brotha!!!
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, this is why I do it, to show everyone not to let these dealers run us . We the people have the power
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 9 ай бұрын
This will kill manuals
@echos9396
@echos9396 9 ай бұрын
You have to tell them that you want the out the door price for these type of cars. I didn’t get the Integra Type S but I got that same Carbon metallic with Red interior A spec Integra and I got it at MSRP. Don’t let them fool you at all and good on you for backing out. Honestly the A-Spec version is not bad, I highly recommend that version over the Type S.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Thank you sir, so the reason why they try it for the type s and not the aspec is because it’s a performance car and how the type r sells in comparison. But regardless if it a performance or not , no one should pay a markup , not worth it
@lilhead9454
@lilhead9454 8 ай бұрын
i've driven an a spec and a type s and the type s is just a way better car when it comes to performance. the type s loses some features like a powered passenger seat but the performace makes up for it.
@jomardiaz78
@jomardiaz78 9 ай бұрын
yup. I almost got scammed out of miami acura. 8k mark up. I ordered silver and waited a full month. that color was never ordered for me, yet to this date still that color hasn't arrived to the state. ended up paying a small mark up at another dealer and got a different color way outta my spectrum
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that bro, but I hope you at least enjoy the car
@proleisuremotorsports
@proleisuremotorsports 9 ай бұрын
Just got my A-Spec 6M for -$1k under msrp, but got the same line about the Type S. So next year when the hype is gone and the dealers come back to earth maybe I'll trade up.
@vovakovtun
@vovakovtun 9 ай бұрын
Got mine for MSRP from Nalley Acura here in Atlanta. Just have to get on their list.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Congrats bro , hope to see you out there
@jerryreid813
@jerryreid813 9 ай бұрын
I wish that car manufacturers would sell directly to the consumer the way other product manufacturers do. This would eliminate that price gouging immediately. I want one of these but I refuse to pay much over $50k for an Integra when there are other viable competitors in that price range. Kudos for walking away.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Most manufacturers have expressed plans to move direct to consumer soon. Fingers crossed
@1anre
@1anre 8 ай бұрын
Exactly as Elon did
@duongphan9202
@duongphan9202 7 ай бұрын
That car not worsted $52,000 msrp
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 7 ай бұрын
Why do you think that ?
@AndrewWiebeCAN
@AndrewWiebeCAN 9 ай бұрын
Integra Type S are all over lots in south Florida? Im trying to find one in Canada and there are none anywhere to be found. Waitlists at every dealer for them. Get on the waitlist and they may call you when 1 of the 5 they get every year comes in.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
They are and yet still they charging markups, they just greedy down here, don’t understand basics of supply and demand. They about to feel the pain tho
@maxelnoyl3597
@maxelnoyl3597 8 ай бұрын
The high interest rates are killing their bottom line because they have to pay a lot more for their inventory and people can’t get approved to buy.
@maurimaoz
@maurimaoz 9 ай бұрын
i feel u bro i had worst experience in west kendall toyota. will never buy from there. most unprofessional ppl. They need to cut these dealerships out and just buy straight from manufacturer
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
There’s really no respect for people spending thousands of dollars
@SGP_TypeR
@SGP_TypeR 9 ай бұрын
Stay persistent man, this market is pretty fucked. I’ve had best luck with places that just aren’t able to sell a vehicle lucky for me…hope you end up getting the one you want
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Thank you sir
@RayDiggy
@RayDiggy 9 ай бұрын
Bro, even to this day, there are dealerships here in CA that are marking up the Civic Type R FL5 20k above MSRP and fools are paying it. And when they do, it justifies to the dealerships this toxic practice. It's literally consensual theft. And they always sell you with, "oh our dealership is only getting a couple. This is an enthusiast car. Demand is high. It's very limited edition." I've personally called over 20 dealerships for the Type R, and told every single one I refuse to pay mark up, and they just say okay, have a nice day, bye, someone else will pay it. I've called 3 dealerships about the Type S and been told they are marking it up 10k, and had the exact same denial. Sucks for average guys like us. Good luck with your journey man.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Don’t lose hope , the market is starting to come down , these dealers are about to feel the pain
@1anre
@1anre 8 ай бұрын
Are they high on glue?
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 9 ай бұрын
Dont fall for their crap.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Definitely will not
@commonduck10
@commonduck10 9 ай бұрын
Sad Acura’s dealership killing the car…
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Not just Acura, dealers in general
@pedrot1152
@pedrot1152 9 ай бұрын
Hey bud I just got mine in grey/red interior from Scanlon acura in Fort Mayers if you're willing to drive 3.5h you can find the its at msrp (the caviat is you need to add 4-5k in access which i was ok to that) and tbh cannot be happier with the overall experience.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it bro, I do t mind driving somewhere, I have a local dealer here that will sell at msrp so I’ll check them out first. Thanks for the heads up
@justkev234
@justkev234 9 ай бұрын
Soo you still paid a markup smh u fell for it lmaoo
@pedrot1152
@pedrot1152 9 ай бұрын
Well dif perspectives. Considering yes or yes I wanted to add the access and I would add them regardless (and the ones I only wanted...+ they removed all the add dealership packages) I feel it was a solid deal
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
@@pedrot1152 correct accessories are not a markup …
@vandrosia
@vandrosia 8 ай бұрын
​@@pedrot1152 Congratulations on your new car. What accessories did you add?
@AH4Z
@AH4Z 8 ай бұрын
Just wait, the car market is overstocked, sales are in decline, and getting worst through to the new year. Plenty opportunities coming, might be a blessing in a disguise.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 8 ай бұрын
That’s the plan !!!
@mentorofarisia371
@mentorofarisia371 8 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right that paying above MSRP is a non-starter. And advertising a price at MSRP and then requiring a mark-up is a predatory practice. But you are wrong about supply and demand. Your basis is wrong. There may be several on dealer lots, but dealers know that they will not be getting many more, and they don't even know when more, if any, will arrive. So dealers can hold out for the folks who don't care about the price. I shopped the West Palm Beach Acura dealer, and with no shame they told me it would be 12k over MSRP. When I said that even half that would be too much the sales manager said thanks anyway, and he'd let me know if they ever changed it. If we all do like you, dealers will have to stop it, but with supply very low, and demand being high, some will charge what the market will bear. Similar to the Civic Type R, or, lately, the Chrysler 300C and a few others, with 10% over MSRP being common. For test drives, I agree with the dealer. Too many people will come in with no intention of buying one, but just want to test drive it for fun, revving the engine to redline in every gear, abusing the clutch, and crashing the gears. I don't think buyers like you and me want to buy a car like this after dozens of drivers have had fun with it that way.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 8 ай бұрын
Way less demand than supply , no one is looking for these cars except a certain individual
@kayashimz
@kayashimz 7 ай бұрын
💯
@bobit8742
@bobit8742 9 ай бұрын
even $52k, it’s still expensive for an integra. It is not flying off the lot anyway, let alone markup. Only a few that is crazy about honda will buy.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
It’s definitely a better value than most cars in the market
@FutureDeltaPilot747
@FutureDeltaPilot747 9 ай бұрын
They push base models or basic cars we dont want down our throats, but let us want a sports car and then they treat you like you’re an underage teen trying to buy GTA or alcohol.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Worse than that , they treat you like a chump that they want to milk dry
@FutureDeltaPilot747
@FutureDeltaPilot747 9 ай бұрын
@@moonrockschopshop True that! They got me not wanting to buy a new car anymore. I wanted a Type R but now i want the Type S. Thank you for filming this experience so that others know whats going on. Here in NY they are giving A-specs like candy i see them more than the base model, but have yet to see an 11th gen Si. I see a few 10th gen Type-R, no Type-S though.
@briannwo1900
@briannwo1900 9 ай бұрын
Honda built the cars to make $$$ not for “us”. We just happen to be the avenue in which they gather the $$$.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
You might be confused at how the process works, let me enlighten you. Honda the manufacturer, sets an MSRP: manufacturer suggested retail price for what these cars should sell for, the dealers then turn around and get greedy and charge a markup. If you look at Hondas margins , they barely make much money on sales of type s models as opposed to more volume models like a civic. So, yes Honda is a business and they do make money but your assumption on Honda making it “not for us” is inherently wrong, they do not price gouge as the dealers are doing. I think you completely missed the context of the video, maybe watch it again ?
@briannwo1900
@briannwo1900 9 ай бұрын
@@moonrockschopshop couldn’t stomach it again. Honda is in the business of making money ! Period ! Honda doesn’t care about “us” other than we are how they make their money. What dealerships do is another subject.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
@@briannwo1900 I’m sorry you feel that way you , and I’m sorry your disregarding everything I said and also the video as whole and you can’t get out of the state of mind you’re in. I hope you can be more positive for the future and also it’s the reason why I’m doing this, to renew some hope for ppl who have lost it
@briannwo1900
@briannwo1900 9 ай бұрын
@@moonrockschopshop the sales team was smart to let you walk ! You would be a very difficult person to work with ! I agree the $10,000 mark up is a joke and I would NEVER pay it. That part I agree with but your demeanor is suspect at best !
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
@@briannwo1900 ok idk what you mean by all that but the fact that you say i would be difficult to work with just because I want a fair deal and hold dealers to that standard makes me feel that your probably just a bot shilling for dealer groups, and now the context of what your saying makes more sense , good day to you
@samuellauchman8484
@samuellauchman8484 9 ай бұрын
I really like what you’re doing #fuckmarkups
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate it fam, please like and subscribe to follow the journey
@vandrosia
@vandrosia 8 ай бұрын
Sucks you're having so much problems from these dealerships. I have a 2014 Subaru WRX in World Rally Blue that I bought brand new with 23 miles on it. I'm also in the market for a Type S and I live in South Florida. Hopefully, it'll work out for both of us! We just have to wait them out.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 8 ай бұрын
December will be a big month !!!
@jaiuchiha6191
@jaiuchiha6191 9 ай бұрын
Dang man it sucks buying a car these days it’s the worst time to be buying a car for anyone the integra type is ain’t even that rare, me personally I would not pay anything over msrp why am I pay a dealer an extra 1k-15k to sell me a car on top of that onece u drive it off the lot it loses its value even if u buy at msrp. And them saying they don’t let costumers test drive the car is a lie I test drove a type s my local dealer has a handful of them sitting on the lot they’re not selling as fast as you would think 52k + markup+ taxes and fees+ interest rates when your done that car easily will cost u 75k in the end if you’re not buying it outright.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely true , let’s all of enthusiasts stay strong and make some positive changes in the market
@trigganometry168
@trigganometry168 9 ай бұрын
Same thing happened to me over text message. Sale agent said $45345 for Type R. So I started driving down( a 65 mile drive and I was half way there) and then he dropped the invoice with a $15k mark up with stupid accessories too over picture message. I wrote a nasty review on google and told him to F off and stop calling me. Retard kept asking me to come in and negotiate.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
Same dealership ?
@trigganometry168
@trigganometry168 9 ай бұрын
@@moonrockschopshop. No same/similar scenario bait and switch. I’m on the west coast.
@ArchMJ88
@ArchMJ88 9 ай бұрын
I can't wait until they allow OEM's to do direct sales to customers for non-evs. Dealerships have proven to be nothing but a usless and greedy middle men. Dealerships are as usless as the health insurance industry.
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
True story
@VB_Bryan
@VB_Bryan 9 ай бұрын
Save yourself money and get a Subaru wrx limited
@moonrockschopshop
@moonrockschopshop 9 ай бұрын
No thanks , most cars in this class are betas to the overall package of the type s or type r
@VB_Bryan
@VB_Bryan 9 ай бұрын
@@moonrockschopshop they are both great cars but for almost 15-20k less the WRX can get just as good performance. I know a lot of people are scared of the subaru motor reputation but the new FA24 motor is probably one of the best motors they have ever created. I know it does not compare to Honda motor reliability but still it is something I would consider if I was looking at performance cars in the 35-50k range. Honestly I am not a big fan of the FWD but Honda makes some really nice performance cars. Honestly you can't go wrong with any of the choices, just make sure you don't get finessed on the mark up
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