Buying UGLY from KEH

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Somebody's Opinion

Somebody's Opinion

Күн бұрын

I've bought from KEH before but never have I explored the realms of UGLY. KEH is known to have a reputation of having high standards when it comes to rating their used gear, but do these standards also apply to 'Ugly'?
The Gear I Use:
Canon R6: amzn.to/48jI0I9
Sennheiser MKE 600: amzn.to/45RRU2f
Rode Wireless Go II: amzn.to/46gj4jg
Rode Lavalier Go: amzn.to/3ZkXkAd
SmallRig RC 120B: amzn.to/45QWYnq
Neewer NL480: amzn.to/400guMi
Chapters:
0:00 - What is Ugly?
1:36 - Buying from Canada
2:00 - What did I Buy?
2:51 - Unboxing
4:12 - A Closer Inspection
6:00 - Image Tests
6:43 - Outro

Пікірлер: 52
@lawrencekeeney4317
@lawrencekeeney4317 Жыл бұрын
I have both sold equipment to, and purchased equipment from, KEH for over 20 years, and never had a single problem.
@jonlouis2582
@jonlouis2582 Жыл бұрын
I was unlucky with my purchases from KEH and sent most of them back. Never bought any "Ugly" graded merch either. Then I discovered Roberts/UPP and never had a problem again.
@Zetaphotography
@Zetaphotography 4 ай бұрын
what rating is ugly at UPP where your comment is actually valid?
@studioatlanta
@studioatlanta 6 ай бұрын
I have been buy ng from KEH since 1983! Great company!
@kaminobatto
@kaminobatto Жыл бұрын
First off, thank you for sharing this experience. The thing is, if I ever end up buying something that has fungus in it on purpose for a bargain, I'd probably leave it that way just as an experiment to see the effect on the image as the fungus grows. However, if I buy something that I want at a bargain and it turns out to have fungus in it. if the lens is fully manual, I am very confident about disassembling it and cleaning the fungus with the right solution. However, if the lens has electronic contacts, I'd a tad less confident, and if it has a lot of tech like IS, programmable buttons, or LCD display, I'd just return it because I wouldn't be confident that I won't nick something off.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Thanks Yamen, agreed. Manual lenses were so much easier to disassemble. I looked up some disassembly videos for this lens and it was quite complicated. I might attempt it one day but so far it works fine so I’ll just leave it for now
@PaulSafford
@PaulSafford Жыл бұрын
nice video, fun unboxing. I wouldn't worry too much about the fungus, it's not going to grow like a plant. If you can determine if it's near the front or back you might want to try cleaning it. I've had success in the past as a complete novice using youtube videos as tutorials. I'd be more concerned about the wobble, if you're doing extreme closeup work it might throw your focus off on one side or the other. It's also a good indication the lens was probably dropped and the helicoid has been damaged internally. I'd return it and get a Laowa 100mm, that lens is super sharp and gives 2:1 macro reproduction.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, thank you so much for the suggestions. Yeah I tried taking out the front elements as it was an easy disassemble, hoping it would be there but it wasn’t unfortunately. Good thing tho is everything works as should so I might just leave it as is for now.
@CrusaderRabbit59
@CrusaderRabbit59 8 ай бұрын
i have had really good luck buying bargin and ugly from keh. glad you did too. cheers, the Rabbit. =:3
@sneakingelephant
@sneakingelephant Ай бұрын
If you are in Ontario you can try crossborder shipping to reduce those import fees a bit
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 28 күн бұрын
Sadly I’m not :(
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 6 ай бұрын
That's a fantastic lens, a magical product. Shoot some pictures and look at the result. Probably stopped down you see no problems.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 6 ай бұрын
Definitely no issues with my copy IQ wise :)
@billr6983
@billr6983 9 ай бұрын
How much was the shipping and import duties on this if you don't mind me asking. I'm also in Canada and I thought about ordering a small inexpensive lens from KEH for under $40 US, , but after looking into the shipping that KEH charges for shipping to Canada, exchange rate, taxes and import duties the cost of the lens would have tripled from the original price.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 9 ай бұрын
I believe it was about 10-15% to the courier when I received the package? I can’t remember the exact amount unfortunately. Yes I’ve realized it’s not that worth it getting it into Canada either. Unless the item is Ugly and marked down really low or if you’re trying to find a collector item. They do sometimes have coupon codes for ugly items tho when they try to clear stock. Happens maybe once or twice per year.
@scotthullinger4684
@scotthullinger4684 Жыл бұрын
For some merchants, "ugly" means a few dings and scratches which have no bearing on function nor image quality. But for some other merchants, "ugly" means a piece of half broken crap which is almost unusable.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah you never know what to expect. Good thing there’s a return policy
@lawrencelunsford6028
@lawrencelunsford6028 Жыл бұрын
I've bought a lot gear from KEH but it's been Bargain and above quality. I've been very happy with my purchases. I've never bought any of their UGLY. Their site says that UGLY is not covered by their warranty. Can it be returned if you don't like it and YOU pay shipping? If so, it may be worth a try sometime.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Hey Lawrence, yeah bargain is usually quite good. Ugly is a hit or miss so depends how lucky you are haha. That’s correct, their warranty does not cover ugly but it can be returned. ‘As-is’ is the only grade that cannot be returned.
@itempany
@itempany 2 ай бұрын
I am now too scarred to purchase ugly.....Let me tell you why. My first purchase from KEH was a bargain grade D3s and arrived in quite good order....just missing rubber cap to remote connector. Them I purchased Nikon 80-400 G in bargain grade with a noted damage to front ring. On arrival the ring had a missing section but not too bad. What wasn't mentioned was weather seal next to bayonet mount was lifting in one small section. The movements of lens seemed to be good and free without stiffness. Then for a third time I decided to try a bargain grade Nikon 24-70 G ED also with damage to front ring. This time the damage seemed to be easily 1/3 of ring broken off (most likely dropped damage) and on mounting on camera....auto focus works fine but manual focus seems to freeze until using auto focus and then it works for a bit. Will see if frees up and usually use auto focus anyway. Bit dust in glass which is to be expected. I think 24-70 more an ugly grade than Bargain grade. But can't be too fussy as not buying exc or as new grades. But now unsure if taking a chance on ugly is worth it as in Australia , with our weak dollar and shipping generally cost of item doubles by time it gets here.........But am happy with the body though....Its a beast
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s a gamble for sure, especially since their descriptions are always so vague and without pictures. Though I’m quite surprised that 24-70 ended up in bargain grade, usually if there’s a functional issue it goes to ugly but yeah who knows, it’s always a toss up
@johnl2727
@johnl2727 7 ай бұрын
I'm a UPP man. Great lenses with honest ratings.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@fifithompson9663
@fifithompson9663 9 ай бұрын
I dont think people will stop milking these types of videos
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for Hasselblad 80mm CB f2.8. Hoping for clean optics.
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 Жыл бұрын
@@SMBYopinion I'll keep you posted.
@RealTechGeek
@RealTechGeek Жыл бұрын
Roll the dice 🎲
@robert18productions
@robert18productions 9 ай бұрын
How did it turn out?
@QuicknStraight
@QuicknStraight 9 ай бұрын
I am slightly puzzled. When they rate a lens, KEH can either see fungus or not, and the listing should surely say if it's there. As for fungus, easy to kill it an stop active growth. Not always so easy to get into a lens and clean it!
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 9 ай бұрын
For sure, they should see it during inspection but they don’t note it on the listing. Typically they just use generic pre written rating descriptions
@QuicknStraight
@QuicknStraight 9 ай бұрын
@@SMBYopinion They should do better than that. Buying shouldn't be a complete lottery!
@peteberry3826
@peteberry3826 10 ай бұрын
Import charges? From Canadian customs or someone else?
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 10 ай бұрын
Correct, from customs
@mikelikavec4329
@mikelikavec4329 Жыл бұрын
You can kill the fungus with uv light. Will not remove what is there but will keep it from growing. Good luck. M
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the advice. I’ll give that a try!
@sloop24
@sloop24 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can put it an ozone treatment and kill the fungus so you don't have to worry about it getting worse
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Ohh, thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into that!
@GregTurismo
@GregTurismo 24 күн бұрын
I’ve been very curious about this because the lenses are like 50% cheaper
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 22 күн бұрын
It’s a gamble but you might get something good! I’m still using this lens, and the fungus doesn’t seem to be growing or affecting imaging quality
@GregTurismo
@GregTurismo 22 күн бұрын
@@SMBYopinion that’s dope!
@GhostlyFilm
@GhostlyFilm 8 ай бұрын
tutorial on how to clean fungus?
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 10 ай бұрын
Wish You well on growing your Channel. Congrats on getting what looks to be a good copy of a great lens. Why they would ship it without at least a rear cap is a little ridiculous. Those electrical contacts can get easily damaged, cheap pouch notwithstanding. KEH has always been very conservative with their ratings, and reputable. Why they had to go ‘political’ is a shame, IMO. To each their own, but it conflicts with my personal beliefs and views, and I would not feel comfortable dealing with them going forward. Leave it sit in the Sun for awhile, for a number of times, and the UV should help with the Fungus/mold. Peace!
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support and the tip about putting it out in the sun! I’m giving that a go for sure. :) And yes, definitely follow whatever feels comfortable to you!
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 10 ай бұрын
@@SMBYopinion You're Welcome and my pleasure! Thanks for your reply. You come across very well in your Videos, very amicable, and I wish You well going forward. Yes, the act of the Sun/UV rays has been known to help, but not always guaranteed to totally mitigate Fungus/ Mold in lenses? I know of some who have used a tanning lamp on a lens. I would caution against too long of an exposure at a time. A lens sitting out in the Sun will get Hot quickly, and that can cause more problems than help!!! 😯 Pick a cool day, and use your judgment. Good luck! Stay well! Peace
@jaym5938
@jaym5938 8 ай бұрын
Was it decentered?
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion 8 ай бұрын
Not that I’m noticing, if so, it could be minor
@brandonpierce
@brandonpierce Жыл бұрын
I’d worry the fungus could infect my camera or other lenses…
@SMBYopinion
@SMBYopinion Жыл бұрын
Let’s hope not :(
@JohnKrill
@JohnKrill 2 ай бұрын
Talk, talk, talk.
@joseacarrasm
@joseacarrasm 9 ай бұрын
KEH is really overhyped compared to MPB, BH or Adorama. They are honest mentioning that UGLY means FUNGUS
@AGENT-J-bt2mm
@AGENT-J-bt2mm 7 ай бұрын
This man looks green. ZOLTAN 🫱🏼🫲🏼
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