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HDR 68 has a better intimidation factor. The price is 4 times lower and the benefits of different type of projectiles makes the HDR 68 the winner for me. Great video again!

Great demo of the two. Both would put the hurt on at 15 feet. I prefer the Byrna because it's easier to conceal for EDC and its mag holds seven shots. I wouldn't want to be hit by either weapon. You shooting range 3.0 has come a long way since you started. Your airgun and PCP evolution has been very helpful in providing the end user with lots of consumer information. Well done and keep it up.

The HDR68 has the power but is too bulky to carry around. That would be great on the nightstand or in a glove box. The Byrna LE is a better option to carry outside your home or vehicle..

Thank you Gian for giving a direct comparison for us at your new place. The Gnomes don't disappoint! Jokes aside, as ScaredyCatTV mentioned, the Byrna is a great carry option as the compact nature is more comfortable for EDC and the pull-pierce-fire is very handy in situations outside when you have very little reaction time. The HDR68 is better overall for home and places where you have the moment to bump-charge it before putting it to work, and the higher energy will do good LTL work for home before resorting to lethal. Of course, the HDR68 is a bit too big for on-body carry, so there are trade offs between the two. Finally, I do like your new place and the distance markers you've made at the range. Keep up the good work!

You forgot to mention that the Byrna is $400+ and the Umarex is $120 and can actually be modified for higher power and the Byrna can NOT be modified for higher POWER. Always enjoy your videos and I like that new setup you got there.

I'm surprised they haven't come up with an air pistol that when you pull the slide back it punctures the tank. It would give you plenty of Leverage.

Thanks as always 👍

Just getting ready to buy and these are my 2 finalists. Many thanks for this vid.

I dig the new set up, just ordered the HDR 68, really looking forward to shooting it, got some of those jawdroppers DKS 68. And a bag of something called 3 skull nylon balls, there's a bunch of ammo I want to get, im not very educated on them though, I wanted the Byrna le originally, but after all the reviews I've seen about the HDR 68 figured I'd try it, plus it's much cheaper! I got the 16 joules upgrade from a website u had on ur video, thank you so much for all your info I'm really enjoying all your videos very interesting, I honestly didn't know anything about these guns until last week now I think I'm going to really enjoy them, and hopefully give a little home protection if I ever need it

Great video and testing. Nice new range you got. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃

You're the best. This was great. Thank you. Nice new office and range. Did you and your family move? Best of luck!

I have both of these markers. The Bryna is fun for shooting round balls while the HDR is great for testing out all kinds of do-it-yourself ammo.

Awesome video, thanks for sharing!

awsome video the yard looks great congrats

Great job thanks enjoyed I have a un Rex t4e I was surprised by this pistol

Hell yeah Gian! Nice new setup!

Great video as always :D Cool new location :D

NICE ! Always fun

Good info and entertaining! 🤙😎🌴

Great video, thanks

Excellent new range, bro! And an excellent shooting test! 🔫

Thank you very much for all your testing. I believe the main advantage with the Byrna pistol is being able to draw and fire the same as a firearm. Obviously you wouldn't have the same power as a firearm. However, that ability could make the difference between life or death. I'm not aware of any other Less lethal pistols on the market that can make that claim. I'm referring directly to the ability to puncture the CO2 cartridge AND fire. Also, I've mentioned the following in other settings concerning the colors of launchers. If your state requires your launcher to be a vibrant color then so be it. However, if you can choose the color I would choose a color more typical of a firearm. Pointing or displaying what appears to be a toy could cause problems that you wouldn't encounter otherwise. Have you noticed actual firearms available in vibrant colors as well? Being a vibrant color doesn't mean it is not a firearm. Law enforcement does not have the luxury of determining the threat because of the color. Please be safe.

Love your new shooting alley. Nice touch with the distance markers. I'll take the Umarex 68 over the Byrna in a home defense situation. The Byrna seems to drop in power. A lot of work on your behalf getting through the move and setting up for this video. Well done!!

Way to step up bro! 💪💯

Nice work 🤙

Just ordered my Hdr 68 from you. Thank you for helping me decide

Great test I like the ally 2.0 and the griffen I like the HDR68

279 views in one hour! Your killing it bro

Nice testing dude

Great test, and excellent new setup. The Byrna light ammo at 2.8 - 3.0g is just too light for confident personal defense. That is the same weigh almost as .50 cal rubber steel balls. Might want to see what the two would do with aluminum, rubber steel S type, and Riot balls PVC 9.9 gram balls. The Byrna le chief assets is it is one of the best conceal carry options, because of its size and has decent power for the first three shots if activated in safe mode. A.A.M, kudos, no one does it better. .

Just ordered the Byrna LE in orange (black looks too much like a real pistol imo) and as a concealed option it's the better of the two, of course if you want to go full on Dirty Harry style then the HDR 68 it is. May just get one for that reason, "Do you feel lucky punk"!

Nice comparison and great idea about the modifications to your range. Those 2 launchers couldn't be more different. If I had to choose between the 2 I would go with the LE because of the form factor. There are better options than either of these for high power and mods, but the LE fits great into the concealed carry category as is.

I was just thinking about something with regards to shooting cans. At Harbor Freight Tools, they have magnets for around $5 with like 90 pound force. They're in metal bases, and with a hole in the middle for attaching with a screw. If you attach one of these to a board, and clamp it down to the table, it might hold those tin can targets in place pretty well.

Cool comparison! Looks like hdr is more accurate and has a more stable velocity

If you're not aware first strike has a new 50 caliber pistol in the process of being released now. It's called the Sicariis and comes with two 10-round magazines with the 12 g CO2 cartridge housed within. It has a compensator that's removable if you so desire. There is an adjustable FPS screw on the outside. Power out of the box and the ability to further modify it appears to be promising . It looks very similar to the Tiberius pistol. Thank you for your videos they are very informative.

Très bien ta nouvelle installation pour faire tes vidéos 👍

The NEW Range looks Great ! The HDR68 is Better suited for the Home with a Green Laser. The LE is Better for CC. 5 ***** Across the Board !!!

Desde 🇵🇹 Portugal 🇵🇹 👍 Congratulations on the new facilities. I honestly think that the Amurex T4E HDR cal 68 is one of the best weapons made, it gives you the power to fire five shots, to fire practically anything you put in the revolver's barrel, Amurex would put a barrel extension on sale like it did with the younger sister the Umarex T4E HDR 50, so this weapon became a good five 🖐️ shotgun. The Byrna seems to be a good pistol to carry concealed, but Byrna prices here in Europe are very, very expensive... In addition, here in Europe we have a wide variety of tuning for Umarex products.

Hope you get your hands on the grimburg gavel, between umarex and bryna id go umarex for price point and projectile options.. both pack a wallop though... alway great vids mr.miami one of favorite channels

Beautiful and functional The new shooting stand. 👍

Hey Gian, the new Alley looks amazing! The distance markings were a great idea. We use metric in these parts😂, but still a very effective visual guide. It seems to me the Hdr 68 outperforms the Brna in every way--- looks cooler to begin with! It also takes all kinds of(the wide variety)of projectiles, which to me pretty much settles the score. Loved the Gnomes intro! It's way more fun than anything Disney's been putting out lately, seriously! PS: You mean Warhol never did any art based on SpagettiO's cans? Hard to believe...😢

Excellent video as always but I was just wondering if you plan to test the new Grimburg Gavle 5 shot home defence pistol as it is 36 joules and is quite impressive as I've seen it tested on another channel and I'd absolutely love to shoot one but i don't think I can legally buy one in the UK because of our gun laws here, your opinion on this would be very interesting! I also got my 100x 50 cal aluminium balls which worked out cheaper in the UK than the price I paid for 50 from another supplier! Great to see that you've moved and set up your new range, I'm looking forward to more videos!

Great video again and the distance markers on your new set up are a good idea. Personally don't see much difference power wise with both pistols so I think it will come down to personal taste...a good looking 7 shot mag fed or a big ugly wheel gun 😱 My preference is the Big Ugly because if I saw that pointed at me .... well nuff said 😁👍

Thanks for a another informative video! Got my Byrna LE (black version) last week been my go to carry for less lethal fits easy with nice holster and combo between 3.6 grams nylon and max (pepper + tear gas) projectiles are devastating! Of course goal of less lethal is not penetration but rather heavy punch and deter attacker and as we see on a video you don’t want to be hit by ether 😂

You should try some of the HDR ammo that carries a like a 16 penny nail📍 in it

I have a Byrna and an HDR 50. I'd much rather get hit by the Byrna. I have Z Rams in the HDR 50 which seem possibly fatal.

You mentioned in your pros and cons about charging the air wouldn't you lose more air with the trigger pulling one than with the grip bump one? Or is all the air contained?

I've held a Byrna & it felt good in the hand and is compact enough that it would probably carry well whereas the HDR68 looks pretty unwieldly and would be a PITA to carry. The reason I say this is that I own a Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 10.5 inch barrel and have to carry that in a cross-draw configuration whereas my other pistols (revolvers & semi-'s) I can carry on my hip.

How many Joule increase by only removing the Restrictor from an HDR68 16 joule? Which is Better? Removing the Restrictor completely? Or Drilling a 1.5mm or 3mm hole in the Restrictor.

I prefer the Byrna it’s smaller, has a higher magazine capacity, and the results were almost the same. Remember we’re not looking to kill people. We’re looking to provide a less lethal option. Delivering a chemical round to disable someone or a kinetic round which is non-lethal, and can deliver pain and offer compliance as a result is really what we’re looking for. It’s clear to me that if you change the projectile type, you may have an increased penetration, but with that comes a higher chance of causing bodily harm or death. The burner philosophy is my favorite. I own two other handguns. If I’m looking for a beast I’ll rely on those.

The HDR does have great benefits but, having to just take off safety does have benefits in training in ease of use.

-New Alley - Check -Great comparison of 2 Guns - Check -Stuff goes boom - Check -Slowmotion - Check Another great video :), did your mission against Spagetti´Os end tho ?

like the new range

where can the 16 joule HDR be gotten ? i can only find 7.5 thx

Well, do you have to use their brand of CO2 or what. I think for actually carrying around I will use the house brand, but practice with Crossman or whatever.

And since they say using Warner co2 shoots slightly better what about using hand warmers on the grips or wherever the co2 sits?

nice backyard just made for shooting alley is that a new home

After all my searching for a good self defense pistol, it boils down to these two guns. The Byrna being considerably more expensive and limited to what it can use...is it worth it. Thank you

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I have been carrying the HDR 50 4 about a year now the problem I have is is that it's very hard 2 conceal carry I've had 2 result 2 just keeping it in my bag I carry around because the HDR is so big.

Where is the damn alley in airgun alley anymore ? just kidding, love your new setting.

Wasted water, tomatoes soup and the worst was the awesome gargoyle gnome!

After watching your many videos I decided to buy the Umarex 50 or 68 caliber air gun. However, after looking at reviews from different sources I was alarmed to find numerous reviews that said both 50 & 68 calibers blew up. That stopped me in my tracks from buying. Have you heard of this?? Thoughts? Suggestions? I wanted a gun like these that's activated by hitting the bottom. Now I'm afraid to buy. Help, Steve in Tennessee

Byrna Mission 4 rifle is still SOLD OUT!!! The Byrna LE is a little less powerful, but, it can fit in your pocket, behind your belt or in a holster and it will look like a proper gun. The MASSIVE hand cannon Umarex is more powerful, but, where the hell will you fit that thing? You might as we pistol whip the person instead of trying to pull it out of your backpack, activate it and then try to hold it with both hands... Not very practical. BTW, i like the home depot plywood design, it's basic, not computer drafted or 3D printed! Keep on shooting!

I was wondering if the hdr68 is actually a paint ball gun. Because in my efforts in trying to find a place to buy one, all the articles I come across calls this a paint ball gun. But some of those sites when digging into them says not to use paintball. So where do I get the correct answer for 68 caliber non lethal home deterrent?

For me the HDR 68 is the winner. For its price and the types of ammo i can use with it. Here in CA gun laws are stricter. We have to be careful in using our real gun powder guns in our home. Less Lethal is the alternative. But i still will carry my 1911. My only concern with HDR 68 is the 5 round limit of the circular magazine.

I’d get Byrna to carry and HDR 68 at stationary areas

HDR 68 punch a pack, and looks alike the Dirty harry 44... quite intimidating

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The update and new range are awesome! I'm personally not a huge byrna fan, but both of those are hand cannons, and are a good comparison of available options. I wish they (ahem, Umarex) would make a .50 cal pistol that functions like the .43 t4e blowback line, with the c02 in the mag, but like 15 joules minimum out of the box. 6-7 rounds per mag, with new pistol models/designs. Badass video! Cheers from Indiana!

going in that can was proof it hits hard to me

Bonjour. HDR 16 joules original ?

Cute toy

Guys I am just here to ask is an hdr 50 effective for home intruders, cheers

The Byrna holds 7 shots vs 5....Plus reloading with an extra clip much easier & faster... Having said that, if you need 14 shots then you're probably wishing you had a proper firearm. My Byrna is just to buy me time to get my 12 gauge.

Great video as always. Im not a Byrna fan as youre stuck powerwise, way more expensive and cant be modified. Loving the new backyard range setup. Unless you go to a pricier weapon cant beat the HDR68.

Nice new place! Great to see the stop motion again! ;-]

I'm sure you have a reason for using Umarex co2 in one and Byrna in the other gun but I don't get it there both 12 gram and both will work ether way so why because Byrna said so these are my thoughts Byrna wants 19.99 for 10 cartages Umarex co2 are 29.99 for 50 it's a no brainer for me no more then 10 dollars gets me 40 more cartages I'm not knocking you I'm just pointing that out anyway great video I really enjoyed it

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hdr 68

I like the HDR better

Ciao grande fratello mio italiano di quore!! Io preferisco l HDR forever❤❤!!.... P.s. quanto mi piacerebbe venire in America e andarmene via cn la mia famiglia dall' Europa e dall' Italia 😢😢

Alright mate 👍 like your new alley nice touch with with the feet markings . Gotta give it to HDR seemed more powerful plus can put more or less any ammo in it and I own one so biased 😂 as always keep up the good work look forward to your next vid 👍

hmmm... tippmann a5, $200. response trigger for a5 $60, outcome? full auto 250 round cap mag .68 MAJOR less lethal gun. screw thing 7 shot wonders, liable to piss the perp off... oh ps the a5 looks kinda like an mp5

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Love the new range the printed distances really leaves no room for doubt. Depending on the how you intend to use your LL would be deciding factor here. Concealability or upgradeable power? The Hdr does have a much longer barrel which benefits co2 use….why hasnt somebody made a snub nose Hdr68 yet? Come on guys 😂

Great videos. Very informative. Which hard hitting pepperball/Less lethal gun do u prefer? Out of all the ones u have tested? Im on the fence about byrna LE, pepperball TRP, or umarex TR .50. Thank u in advance.

You failed to mention the size.. you can easily conceal the byrna... HDR looks like youre an overexcited black man... Also the byrna is a federal legal device you can carry in any state with ammo regulations... HDR you may have shipping restrictions which really does make it harder to get.. I am going to get the salt supply s2 for baby mama however I need to go to mommys state cause my state doesn't care about your safety

Read all the comments , there are many who say , mostly all , who say and aggree they would have the umarex HDR.68 over the other , really not worth mentioning ! Lol . For half the price of the , "b" word lol , you could have twice the power easily but a lil more , 😂 with umarex hdr.68 , through simple modifications done by the average person . Ever notice , no one on youtube or putting out vids on bryna shooting 32 to 150 joules lol !!!!!!!!! Its a no brainer !!!!!!

Sad, get a real gun.

my Byrna went through a pvc fence

Hd 68 modified to 30 jules with Z-Ram rounds. Pop the coconut! 🥥 🩸🩸🩸

Before I get into anything I do a very exhausting study of said subject or product . For example let's talk about Less Than Lethal. Let's skip my million plus letter essay and go directly to the marker . Byrna LE - 479.99 , Umarex HDR.68- 109.99. The HDR is 370 dollars less than " burnmaazs" lol as I call them LOL !!! So I buy UmarexHDR.68 , put 370 dollars or less into it as accessories and such etc. , and really no questions asked , you got a personal self defense or home protection tool that will be sufficient to deescalate most threats in a matter of seconds . All I can say , I hope the bad guy has a byrna LE for shooting back at me in this case . Bahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabajabajablollolkolololololokololokok.............................. KWIM ¿?????????¿ Awesome video as always my very one of a kind Awesome Brother . You should incorporate the song , " nobody does it better" in your videos LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!