BYRNA LE • NYLON vs ALUMINUM vs RUBBER-STEEL AMMO

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8 ай бұрын

Welcome to Airgun Alley’s second video about Byrna, a powerful .68 caliber launcher that global brand Byrna markets around the world as a "less-lethal" form of home/self defense.
Today we’ll have a good look at a variety of solid ammo: Byrna’s hard plastic Kinetic Projectiles + light weight aluminum balls + the famous Rubbe-Steel balls by Acil Selling - with the new Byrna LE (Law Enforcement) 16+ joules launcher.
We put the plastic, aluminum and rubber-steel rounds through the chronograph to calculate the speed of the projectiles in FPS and ultimately their power in Joules... (easier written than done, as you'll see.)
We then turn against the coconut and finally we shoot a very, very, very (I think 20%) ballistic gel T-Rex, kindly provided by Clear Ballistics.
Will all the ammo work in this world famous powerful CO2 launcher? And how powerful are them shots? Click play and enjoy this MUST WATCH video!
PS The low light really ruined some key readings due to low light ERR messages. I was in a rush against the incumbent looming storms and sunlight was a disappearing luxury during this shoot.
I will be putting this gun through the chronograph a lot....
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@AirgunAlley 6 ай бұрын

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@anthonyfernandes7639 2 ай бұрын

Want co2 pistol goa india

@checkitout4740 8 ай бұрын

Byrna LE + Aluminum Balls..... A Winning Combination !!!

@jeremywilson6938 4 ай бұрын

For sure!!!

@Sandiegosocal619__ 7 ай бұрын

This was amazing! Thank you!

@Metalalbumreviewers 7 ай бұрын

I recently purchased the LE. I have it for work (I run a small security company), and use it as an alternate carry on days I'm running errands here in commie SoCal where I know I won't be able to carry my firearm (lucky enough to have a CCW here). So far, I'm loving it. I had an interaction with security at a venue recently, where firearms were prohibited, but I would be allowed to have something like a can of pepper spray, or a pocket knife. The looks on their faces when their supervisor googled the laws around non-lethal launcher/spray devices, and had to sgree that even if they didn't like it, I was allowed to do it, was absolutely golden. I was gracious and polite about it, but it was nice to finally have a solid defense tool I can take basically everywhere legally, and people here kinda have to suck a fat one, learning that it's literally just a can of pepper spray on paper. My ONLY complaint is the difference in consistency across different ammo types. Also, I know that the only reason I'm allowed to carry pepperball ammo here in CA is because I have all of my state security certifications and licenses.

@ronoconnor8971 2 ай бұрын

They gave you a wallet card for you to write down the serial number, and it states the launchers legality right there.

@americanmade-1 9 күн бұрын

not true. I can buy and use pepperballs now and don't need any liscense lol. I'm in Cali too

@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv 7 ай бұрын

Precisely the kind of video I was looking for before buying more balls

@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv 3 ай бұрын

quick uodate for anybody who comes across this , metal balls I got from amazon were much better than the byrna brand , cheaper than the byrna brand and caused no issues to the byrna pistol itself that I have noticed I also tested black plastic "reusable" ones from Amazon and not only were they much cheaper but alot more dense and hard and overall better than byrna brand balls conclusion : dont waste money on byrna brand balls

@ricky6720 2 ай бұрын

@@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv have a link ?

@kenhaynes4259 8 ай бұрын

Well you made me FREEZE mate 😊. Informative vid as usual...keep em coming.

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Hahahahahaha!! I’m glad I was somewhat credible 😂😂 thank you so much my friend!

@bretthighbee 8 ай бұрын

Great video. You playing like a Barney Fife cop in the beginning is hilarious. I had the same issue with the rubber/steel balls sticking in the seven-round magazine and had to carefully pry them out with a flat-tipped screwdriver. I was able to get them to work using a five-round one from my SD because of the way the balls sit in the magazine straight up and down instead of staggered as the seven-round has.

@beezer2767 8 ай бұрын

great video as always keep up the great work

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽

@raytherrien2851 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate you put work into your videos....

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

And I appreciate your comment which gives me a ton of support! Thank you!

@kencoffman7145 8 ай бұрын

Another great video my friend! A few thing I've found about byrna, heavier projectiles affect the feeding as well as continually "ghost loading " an extra round. I carried my SD with 6 Canada riot balls for about a month or two. When I went to practice I found that they didn't want to feed reliably. I dissambled the mag, lightly stretched the spring, and all was good. Since I've gone back to byrnas kinetic round with 5 in the mag. P.S. If I could get down there I'd volunteer for the pepper tests!

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Hahahaha ok then, I’ll hold you to that spicy offer :) And thank you so much for your input and kind words 🙏🏽🙌🏼

@NuisancePanda 8 ай бұрын

@KentuckyBallistics is like "My T-Rex ain't no punk!!" 😂😂😂 Great Video man! 💪💯 Opening skit was really good

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Hahahaha!! Thank you so much my man 🙏🏽🙌🏼

@avisser5345 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip on making the first round more powerful. I'm more interested in the chemical deterrent rounds, they seem more capable of slowing someone down. Thanks for the video.

@airgunballistics1779 8 ай бұрын

I always thought burna was a very corny type of launcher because they were so weak but with this one having a higher power that's very impressive now! nice video Gian!

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot Caleb! This is my first experience with a Byrna and I guess I got lucky, I think the LE’s power is very similar to my favorite launcher, the HDR 68 (16 joules). So I’m happy. Of course you can only shoot round stuff with this one, but…

@JaydenRoshMelody 3 ай бұрын

@@AirgunAlleyGrimburgh is the most Powerful launcher ive ever tried.with little bit adjustment it shoot 68Joule with steel 68mm ball.Byrna is a joke

@americanmade-1 9 күн бұрын

The Byrna is a joke for self defense. I own one.

@drummerdude1233 6 ай бұрын

Great content! Just got an LE recently and ordered some aluminum rounds after watching your videos on them with different launchers 👍

@AirgunAlley 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much man! I hope you’ll find them as good as I do… have fun and keep us posted :)

@636tone 2 ай бұрын

Where do you order aluminum rounds??

@RichardGozinya1369 5 ай бұрын

Good video and data collection.

@robsan7847 7 ай бұрын

5 round mag works in LE as well. I recommend using 5 round for pepper/tear gas, they will load properly. Stick with non rubberized for the 7 round.

@JackofNothingess 8 ай бұрын

Great video! And sorry about the busted screen At least it did look like you had fun. PS. Thanks for showing us how the rubber rounds jam and fail to feed, I've ben wondering about that.

@Joreel 8 ай бұрын

A small shot of silicone spray fixes the jamming issue. But yeah you're not suppose to be firing rubber ammo in a Byrna.

@Freedomrider355 5 ай бұрын

I also Run a First Strike FSC 6 rounds takes 12 gram co2 and the first few Shots are in the 46 to 40 Joules Range. It hits hard I have it modded with VKS Bolt and Spring and Sterling Self Defense back cap so I can run the VKS Bolt inside of it. the FSC and TCP are substatially larger launchers so that is why I default to my Grimburg Gavel 1.5. But still keep my FSC around for home defense and its alot of fun to shoot

@notsofast60 4 ай бұрын

Loved the intro

@henrik1205 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video :D You really need to get some acrylic plates to protect your self and your gear!!! Looking forward to the next one from you :D

@thellc24-7 8 ай бұрын

Great showing as usual brother! Too bad about the tablet. Its your excuse to buy the new one. Hahaha💥💥💥

@AmbuBadger 7 ай бұрын

Aloha from Hawaii! I carry the SD with an Olight PL-Mini Valkyrie light (it held up to the recoil from my 9mm and .40, so .68 CO2-powered rounds are a non-issue). Nice soundtrack, what pieces are you playing for the coconut demolition video?

@dockjm 5 ай бұрын

Very nice vid. I recently bought SD. Smooth operation. Good pop. Had some initial sticking issue with safety. With several "rounds" still in the mag, i could not flick safety on. It bogged down half way between. Did not want to force it. Have you experienced this??

@al5563 8 ай бұрын

Bella mujer, compadre. Felicidades. The rebounds have hurt me. Thanks to your experiments. Now I believe that Umarex is more profitable than Byrna.

@rick31869 8 ай бұрын

always has been always will be for sure , tripple power from UMAREX!!!

@bengraves9416 3 ай бұрын

That may be true, but the purpose of the Byrna isn’t to penetrate. Their OC balls are no joke. Even near misses make you gag and cough. I’d say that is a win.

@Outrider74 8 ай бұрын

Your opening made me think of Dwight Schrute from The Office!

@peterdement 5 ай бұрын

Consider weighing at least 10 projectiles all at once and dividng that total weight to get a better average weight .

@signal12hvac 4 ай бұрын

another great video, thank you!

@AirgunAlley 3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank YOU!

@badimpulses17 5 ай бұрын

Amazon sell the Byrna Pistol LE version but they will not ship to CA addresses I believe they are just the non pepper ball rounds version.

@slingshotwarrrior8105 8 ай бұрын

Excellent shooting test, bro!🔫 And excellent ammunition! 👌 The oil cartridge is a new innovation 💡 😊 What happened to the plexiglass shield for your phone? 📱

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much my warrior and sorry so late! The oil cartridge is pretty cool indeed, hope I know how to use it right 😂 Good question on the plexiglass, I honestly didn’t think those rounds would bounce like that 😞

@slingshotwarrrior8105 7 ай бұрын

@AirgunAlley It's always better to be safe than sorry! 😞 😄 Welcome, bro. You're a funny guy! 😁

@GenXPertChannel Ай бұрын

Keep in mind that if you run across a great deal on the SD with 8gr CO2, you can convert it to the 12gr CO2 with a kit that's under $60. There are also now 7 round magazines available. The SD is still smaller, and I assume the LE has a bit more punch due to longer barrel length.

@uncleremus64 8 ай бұрын

Sorry about the screen. Thanks for doing these.

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Much appreciated again!! In the end I was able to get it fixed quite quickly :)

@KineSaludTV 7 ай бұрын

I live in Miami I would like to know if there is a place to practice with BBs guns. I haven't found any. Any ideas?

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Hello there neighbor! Lucky for us Florida has virtually no regulation: on air guns. So you can shoot it at home, in your backyard, pretty much anywhere that doesn’t put anyone in danger. At the worst you can drive 30 mins out to the Everglades and find you a spot there. Along road 27 there are plenty of such spots. Good luck and have fun!

@mr.hedgehog 8 ай бұрын

T-rex: 1 I-pad: 0 Looking forward to the rematch. LOL

@runerebel8441 8 ай бұрын

Nice video and great test as always my friend. To bad you ruined the camera. Take care and stay safe. Cheers from your friend in Norway

@ScaredyCatTactical 8 ай бұрын

Seems like the LE has become popular in South Florida. Another nice test my friend. Is the Byrna LE the best compact option or is the Grimburg Gavle better? Hope you get your hands on the Gavle in the future and can compare them head-to-head. In the meantime, I'm sticking with my PepperBall TCP with extended mag that can run 8+1 and has a fresh CO2 with each new mag. Yes it's bulky but hard to beat on power AND shot count.

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Hey man! Gosh sorry so late! Funny, ever since I made these Byrna videos soooo many people have suggested I test the Gavle… and so I contacted Grimburg who said they’ll try to send me one to test asap… 🤞🏽🤞🏽 As always thank you for your very valuable and well thought engineer input :)

@CharlesMitchell 6 ай бұрын

the gavle looks so unappealing, there is no grip at all just a mere handle... I would need to hold one u guess

@Freedomrider355 5 ай бұрын

The Gavel is way better launcher. Its a tank compared to the Byrna line. You can get a grip extension for the Gavel hit me up if you want the details. John Wixon sells them and they work fantastic and still allow you to charge the Gavel even with it on. Gavel is very well made and very simple it is straight power from the C02 no internal regulator on Gavel which helps give it its power.

@delusionsama 8 ай бұрын

maybe get a sheet of plexi glass or something like that to put in front of your camera setup you can use some bricks to position and hold it up . Great video been waiting to see this.

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much and you know the sad part? I actually bought those plexiglass boards and have used them in the past. I just wasn’t expecting the ammo to bounce off the gel like that 😳

@uncleremus64 8 ай бұрын

Thanks. Another great video. I purchased the Byrna LE using your link last week. I purchased separately, (not sold by Byrna) a speed changer so there is no need to use the magazine's key to change the co2.

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

That’s so cool!! I need to look into that speed changer, thanks for sharing! And thank you so much for using the link to purchase your new Byrna, much appreciated my friend! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

@user-bf6go9nf6g 7 ай бұрын

How do you like your new LE so far?

@juansandoval1133 7 ай бұрын

@AirgunAlley great videos as I'm in the market for a Byrna LE. Out of curiosity, which ammo were you using on the ballistic gel?

@toddsafi5052 8 ай бұрын

Like the test format you've developed. It's logical for the LL world. Very sorry the ricochet claimed another piece of equipment; keep up the good work though. I really appreciate this channel. Saying that, I do want to add that I'm not trusting byrna in comparison to umarex. They seem to have more issues.

@airgunballistics1779 8 ай бұрын

For me reliability is key; thats why I i prefer the TR 50..

@GeorgeSmith-sb6xs 8 ай бұрын

Great video, the Byrna does not like when the balls aren’t slick, the rubber/metal balls will not feed properly as they seems too sticky, you can use a little bit of silicone spray on the balls, and it may help, but I would just stick to nylon.

@stuart2500 8 ай бұрын

Alright mate 👍 thought it would have shot all round projectiles good job it wasn't in a emergency situation and you had the rubber steel round in 😂 great vid though you need a shield to stop the rebounds

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Haha that was a big surprise with those rubber ones! But good to know… Next video you’ll provably like. A very cool looking 3D printed tactical mount for the HDR 50 😎 Thank you as always, Stuart!!

@stuart2500 8 ай бұрын

@@AirgunAlley always look forward to your vids mate always interesting

@TheZombie567 2 ай бұрын

Can pepper balls be left in the car ?

@brucemoose926 7 ай бұрын

How to use the oil tube to lube the gun? Is it a mixture of c02 with oil to spread the lube around?

@helgabruin2261 4 ай бұрын

That is right. Every 10th cartridge use the oil combined one.

@papaparodox0384 7 ай бұрын

Definitely putting the first 2 of the aluminum balls in the rest pepper

@kelalamusic9258 8 ай бұрын

Hello there my compadre. Gee, considering this Byrna is 60% more powerful, I was, and I’m sure you were, expecting more from it. The joules were good and the fps was decent, but what happened to the ooomph factor? I’m glad you didn’t get hurt from this balls bouncing back off that dinosaurass. As always, my friend, a great video. So much fun to watch. Take care until the next episode, and please say hello to your lovely wife. She’s such a beauty.

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

With huuuuge delay my compadre I apologize and thank you sooo much! I’m actually pretty impressed with this launcher. If you don’t consider the fact that it can only shoot balls, I would put it on the same power level of the HDR 68. But we’ll only know once I actual put them side by side which should be soon! Thank you as always my friend and hope you’re feeling better and better

@kelalamusic9258 7 ай бұрын

@@AirgunAlley doing much better, thanks. The delay is understandable. You have a lot on your plate right now. I didn't think you would have the time to reply and thank you for doing so. Hope your move goes smoothly. All the best.

@LessLethalDad 8 ай бұрын

Yea bro the rubber rounds are garbage and create drag in the barrel. Might I recommend Homewreker Busting Balls instead of the rubber rounds. Great testing my man

@billbuss7542 3 ай бұрын

Seeing as the pepper spray and tear gas balls are not legal in California do you think the other projectiles are able to stop an intruder?

@AirgunAlley 3 ай бұрын

Hi there! That’s always the million dollar question and sadly the answer is a very generic one: it all depends on the scenario you find your self in. If you’re confronted with an armed, heavily dressed or heavily drugged/intoxicated individual the answer is most likely “no”. In many other cases, absolutely!

@anthonypetruzzo9369 7 ай бұрын

I’m trying to find where to purchase the launcher without all the ammo from the site and just purchase aluminum rounds on Amazon but I can’t find it. Any chance you can guide me

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Hi Anthony! I think the launcher comes in a box with 3 different ammo samples and 2 CO2 cartridges. Not sure there is a way around that tinyurl.com/dy9s2j47 As for the aluminum ammo, here’s the link amzn.to/3tib1UV I hope I answered your question, let me know if not…

@zartancobra-bs5lk 8 ай бұрын

Hi can you please provide the link to your golden scale I like it?

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely! :) ⚖️ GOLDEN SCALE amzn.to/48FUyK7

@timl.6984 7 ай бұрын

So according to the video the best ammo sounds like the aluminum?

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Yessir! I’ve been testing alu ammo for some time now. From a whole variety of launchers. And thus far they’ve never disappointed…

@Druguana 8 ай бұрын

I just subscribed to your channel

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!! 🙏🏽

@rick31869 8 ай бұрын

as a true scientist of air and co2 powered shooters I really enjoyed this video because You put in the scientific data in . i am not fond of byrma , BUT THE HOST OF THE CHANNEL WAS SUPERB. i suspect if the rubber /steel rounds were HEAVILY OILED it would function a lil better , maybe ? i would still watch EVEN if you were testing a daisy red ryder !!! lol . AWESOME SHOW, MY AWESOME BROTHER

@CrawlingAxle 5 ай бұрын

what's a non-lethal gun type you prefer to byrna?

@rick31869 4 ай бұрын

@@CrawlingAxle the true and time tested umarex hdp.50 and hdr.68 !!!

@jeremywilson6938 4 ай бұрын

The byrna LE is a beast!...And one of the most powerful launchers out there!!

@rick31869 4 ай бұрын

@@jeremywilson6938 Jeremy you evidently are not skilled in modding air powered weapons or have any knowledge of them also !!!! that byrna le will get you seriously hurt if you ever use it to protect or defend yourself !!! you should have spent all the F-ing money on a real firearm !!! lmmfao !!!

@teareeutley3770 6 ай бұрын

The aluminum balls were impressive

@JLee-bi4es 8 ай бұрын

New subscriber here. I recently moved to a section of my city that's there's been quite a bit of home invasions, the thing is I got in trouble when I was young and cannot own a firearm what do you recommend is the best airgun for somebody that's in my situation, thank you.

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Hi my friend! Thank you so much for subscribing. I would recommend you watch a few of my videos (and of others) to see which option best suits you. I personally like the revolver style launchers, as they offer a much larger variety of ammo options and shapes. With mag fed guns like the Byrna, you only have the round balls option. That said, solid round balls have proven to be extremely effective, to not mention the powerful pepper ones. So, to make it short, I would see which you prefer between the Byrna LE and the Umarex HDR 68 (16 joules version) as they’re both among my favorite options. Lastly there is a PCP (not CO2) gun that I should be testing soon, the Huben GK1. That one promises to be up there among the best options - however it comes at a price. Literally. CO2 launchers go for a few hundred dollars while the GK1 is looking to cost around $1400. Hope this helps and best of luck

@JLee-bi4es 8 ай бұрын

@@AirgunAlley thank you

@edgefinesse4700 7 ай бұрын

Hdx 68 for home with upgrades to 40j...umarex double barrel upgraded using arrow bolts for home defense...byrna le for carry with duke extreme peppers and duke glass breakers mix

@JLee-bi4es 7 ай бұрын

@@edgefinesse4700 thanks I'll check those out

@DefendJesusCrown73 7 ай бұрын

Do grimburg gavel

@robinhoch924 8 ай бұрын

You know you made it when byrna has your video on their page😁 btw just wait a couple days and you can go to work dressed like that on halloween and your wife can’t say anything against it🤣

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Hahahahahahahaha!! So true! I CAN’T WAIT for halloween 😂😂 And thank you so much, yes Byrna was very kind to share my video. I find the people that work there super nice! Unlike other brands hehee

@madhatterentmt6146 6 ай бұрын

i like the look of the byrna but i feel like the different ammo types of the hdr 50 11 joule make its better and its 1/4th of the price

@hiddenspeak 3 ай бұрын

we would like to see a straight comparison with umarex(maybe hdr50 hdp50 or ever 68) and byrna with this big white numbers you did in this video to highlight the joules of this two guns .....great video

@AirgunAlley 3 ай бұрын

Is this quick enough?? Ahahahaha thank you my friend and here you go :) BYRNA LE vs HDR 68 • LESS LETHAL SELF DEFENSE kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qL-ZaqWWr-CzgnU.html

@hiddenspeak 3 ай бұрын

dayyyum thats quick 🤩🤩😵😵💥💥🔥🔥 @@AirgunAlley salutes from rio de janeiro my man 🙋🏽‍♂️

@wordkyle 4 ай бұрын

Re the coconut test: Marksmanship counts. Hitting the same spot twice made a world of difference in the damage inflicted.

@TheShonuff888 4 ай бұрын

Yeah the Byrna is just meant for the tear gas rounds, The tippman works better for both.

@wascalywabbit 8 ай бұрын

Ok,you can get 2 magazines outta this. You've tinkered with all kinds of airguns, coud the valve spring be adjusted for more power but less shots

@tangobravo8889 Ай бұрын

Scary

@R3DRAIN89 7 ай бұрын

Is the bryna red or orange?

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

This version is orange. They come in other colors as well, but not red…

@ksommertennis 6 ай бұрын

I was told that the rubber steel balls should be coated with some baby powder to make them come out smoother.

@alienangel777 4 ай бұрын

What does the "Error" message mean?

@AirgunAlley 4 ай бұрын

Low light. This chrono likes a lot of direct light on it…

@edjensen9260 7 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏼❤️

@scottwalmer9248 3 ай бұрын

Underpowered✅

@tommcgill1671 5 ай бұрын

We got our LE in Vegas store. Me wife has not fired the ProJ hahah launcher since the shooting range with Dutch or err ahhhhh Mr Dutch to me. And from what I hear from me wifes friends Dutchie or is it a Y? yeah Dutchy sure could Rhyme and spit the beats!!

@justinjordan7449 8 ай бұрын

Ask Houston Jones he might volunteer

@mypetvelociraptor 8 ай бұрын

👍

@solacegrove9752 4 ай бұрын

This byrna stuff and electric cars are conjoined twins born out of the same mother of absurdity

@AirgunAlley 4 ай бұрын

Totally 😂

@Louiepr60 3 ай бұрын

Haha love this 😂

@user-xm6jq8jc6y 4 ай бұрын

Gotta rub baby powder on the rubber steel balls so they can slide in the chamber and shoot properly like the other ammunition

@kimofromkalihi Ай бұрын

Idk what to believe anymore. You say it’s great, others say the seals break after 1st use….. I just want something this size that is dependable. I like the feel and look of the Byrna but need to know it will work should I really need to use it.

@Freedomrider355 5 ай бұрын

I run a Grimburg Gavel 1.5 which is 36 Joules at the muzzle and thats with 8 gram Jv2 Ammo not some crappy 3 gram ammo.

@nunyabizness3882 8 ай бұрын

Bryna can come out with whatever they want, I'm not dropping $400+ on a less lethal. I'll just stick to my tuned Umarex hdr50 with devestators, aluminum balls or cododos. Plastic if I'm feeling forgiving 😊

@rick31869 8 ай бұрын

SMART MAN !!!

@rick31869 8 ай бұрын

spend 400 plus on a real 9mm !!! lol.

@nunyabizness3882 8 ай бұрын

@@rick31869 Exactly. I got my Glock 19 for not much more than that lol

@horkerfan4314 4 ай бұрын

I accidently fired a pepper spray ball into my hallway, I was coughing and tearing for 2 days... they work

@helgabruin2261 4 ай бұрын

Gee, horker, that was rough!

@jskjsk3986 27 күн бұрын

Don't bring a Byrna to a dinosaur fight.

@krr91766 26 күн бұрын

Byrna tends to want you to buy their ammo/projectiles. If they have rubber or steel or aluminum projectiles, I’m not aware of them. That Grimburg Gavel has to be the most powerful non lethal firearm. I’d question if it’s non lethal.

@delusionsama 8 ай бұрын

i like bryna for the trigger puncture mechanism but the price and results still doesn't make the bryna worth it.

@rick31869 8 ай бұрын

right on , get a hdp.50 and both hdr's for that price and possibly get a mercury rise pistol too !!! lmao !!!

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

😂😂

@AirgunAlley 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your input! 🙌🏼

@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv 7 ай бұрын

@@AirgunAlley what is your opinion

@UrMomsNewRide69 2 ай бұрын

Got mine for $20 from my buddy

@DBRGB 8 ай бұрын

Not sure if I ever mentioned on your channel, but if a person uses ammunition that is not specifically intended for use in a launcher, thereby “changing” the lethality of said launcher, the prosecutor can raise the argument against the user, that “intent to kill or inflict serious bodily harm” upon an assailant is “premeditated” thus raising those actions to the level of “criminal intent”, which is punishable by law. That said, please use launchers for their designed and intended purpose so as not to fall victim to overzealous prosecution for defending yourself and/or your family, friends, neighbors, or anyone else whom you may encounter needing assistance from an assailant. Less lethal launchers are to “deter an assailant” from their criminal intent. Not to kill the assailant. Showing you have some respect for life, unlike people who shoot others in the back and argue they were in fear of their lives, 🙄 Let’s just say they are murderous cowards. If anyone is in fear of their life while the assailant is running away from them, they need to be prosecuted for 1st degree murder and then they can spend the rest of their lives truly being in fear of their lives while living with the criminally insane. Use launchers responsibly, because the misuse of them can get you a lifetime of suffering.

@probablyyourdad 7 ай бұрын

So just stick to the real guns gotcha

@InitialFailure 7 ай бұрын

Lawyers can argue almost anything. The color of the weapon, what you ate for lunch that day, the weather outside, all and more, has been argued before. What's of chief importance is surviving. Why would you want to suggest, even so slightly, that it's a bad idea to do anything to increase one's odds of survival?

@stevemiller4494 6 ай бұрын

@@InitialFailureAgreed 👍

@ElectricVehiclesAreGoodF-ti7xd 6 ай бұрын

The law can side with the criminal many times. It happened to me.

@jamespondy0 6 ай бұрын

Lol, gotta love KZfaq lawyers. Proving everyday how little they actually know.

@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904 8 ай бұрын

💥I am predicting the next model will have the same powerful internals of the LE but w/out the extended barrel. 💥Coming in 2024. The LE compact.

@1968roadrunnerred 15 күн бұрын

I have a modified tcp, 540 fps Aluminum ammo Only had to use once, lets say they didnt come after me

@Holy_Athletics 6 ай бұрын

Hwy guys, so to sum it up...does all of the byrna bought ammo load and function properly? In bith sized mags?

@AirgunAlley 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely! If you stick to their ammo, you should never have issues :)

@carlosarizmendi8100 6 ай бұрын

I don’t know if you can ship me a byrna LE California doesn’t let me get one

@cvisconti4568 Ай бұрын

If you’re using any other ammo besides BYRNA, something goes wrong with your gun they are not going to replace it… It specifies only using their ammo

@richardgrzela9668 Ай бұрын

15:30 great video, but it 16:02 is lethal

@tomheisler9273 5 ай бұрын

Try a light coating of silicone on the rubber steel. Perhaps they will feed better. Sorry about your equipment.

@norionorio2275 6 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻🇧🇷

@brucemoose926 7 ай бұрын

The rubber rounds aren't smooth like the hard plastics.

@user-dk4bk5rn7n 8 ай бұрын

From the Old Continent of Europe where this beautiful country is located by the sea, which is 🇵🇹 Portugal 🇵🇹 City of Lisbon.... a big friendly hug 🤗... I discovered a pistol, a non-lethal classified weapon (home defense) what second does it cost to hit 40 Joules ❗❗❗ with a 12g Co2 cylinder - Grimburg Gavle v1.5 Less Lethal Launcher - Do you know this pistol 🔫 ⁉️❓ Is it true that it has all its potential❗❗⁉️ If it were possible It would be cool for you to test that weapon. Because in terms of videos on KZfaq, etc., there is little information about the weapon... 💪 💪 💪

@donpaquette7895 5 ай бұрын

collateral damage, oops.!

@olirock2779 5 ай бұрын

Would be a cool comparison against the new Gavle but by what i’ve seen so far on yt the gavle is more powerful

@AirgunAlley 5 ай бұрын

Oh I know and much agree!! Just waiting on them to send me one… they said it could be a while

@mypetvelociraptor 8 ай бұрын

Leave TRex alone!😅😂

@Maybaby1959 2 ай бұрын

This will void your warranty

@jessearmstrong8067 3 ай бұрын

Non-lethal means to use a lesser means to avoid using deadly force. I think using a material with metal in it could only cause death or serious harm that can lead to death. I think using the rubber steel rounds or aluminum will lead to some sort of lawsuit in the future and make it difficult to carry the Byrne Le or other non-lethal tools. Strongly recommended not to use the steel/based or aluminum balls as self-defense because the law may consider it deadly force application and jail time may be produced from this.

@AirgunAlley 3 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for this. I however would argue that using a metal projectile Can be deadly, with a capital C. They’re actually far from being easily deadly. If your attacker is wearing heavy winter clothing and a helmet, I think having an aluminum ball will give you that extra energy and confidence you may need for that scenario. I mention clearly in the video that Byrna is designed for pepper or nylon balls only. You are right in saying that it all depends on your local laws and regulations. But there is definitely no law that forces you to use only certain projectiles with a launcher

@airpower7692 3 ай бұрын

Think I'll stick to pcp pistols and rifles

@AirgunAlley 3 ай бұрын

PCP is good! :)

@ViralTuber 7 ай бұрын

Thank goodness the CO2 cartridges use a proprietary fit. I was worried you could buy a standard CO2 cartridge and that they might work perfectly. Thank goodness their website implies they've blocked that universal compatibility. "Byrna CO2 Cylinders are custom fit for Byrna Handheld Pistols and Rifles" (←from the website) So it's "sounds like" they've made a special effort to insure the standard and readily-available CO2 cartridges sold at all bikes shops, sports shops, and department stores (sports section), fire extinguisher repair businesses, etc., don't work.

@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA 8 ай бұрын

well i know you are like in florida right, so i know it is not a pistol but my aea hp 51 cal max rifle i regulated it and i use the exact half inch carbon steel ball bearings at 8.4grams or 128grain.and my regulated speeds are arount 1080fps with 6 shot magazines and 18 shots before the power starts dropping. and i listened to this and your riccochets and well i am firmly convinced that i would rather stick with lethal self defense as one round would do the job , being steel it is going through , pretty much anything even half inch aluminum plate, but i do not suggest shooting steel at hardened steel cause it will come back at you. smiles as you now know. i only use steel on soft targets. i use lead for the hard targets at 300grain and well i get around 350fpe regulated regardless. so it is gonna go through a car door and everything in there and out the other side of the car's other door. so vehicles used in drive by's beware comming on my street k. i would not suggest it. and t-rex go find another meal cause i willeat ya. and my friend, if you come to texas. and bring your pepper/tear gas projectiles, i will wear my heavy jacket and motorcycle armor underneath and you can try to make that gas stop a monster. but if i get to ya i am wiping the stuff off me and on you hahaha smiles just for kicks and giggles. THE LAST WORD

@stetonwalters574 8 ай бұрын

Wives is don't let you have any fun😔

@Jameschewingfoil 7 ай бұрын

Will these crack someone’s skull?

@AirgunAlley 7 ай бұрын

Most likely not, but at very close range I’d say they could

@Jameschewingfoil 7 ай бұрын

@@AirgunAlley Thanks.I was just wondering because I live in Arkansas and we’re allowed deadly force on a home intruder.If possible I’ll try for a headshot.