Cabinetry Basics Part 1 [video 435]

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Peter Millard

Peter Millard

Күн бұрын

I get a lot of questions about cabinet and carcass construction and in this series I aim to answer them all, starting here with the most asked question of all; on a wall-hung cabinet, should the top and base sit within or above, the sides?
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@ernielacorte6037
@ernielacorte6037 Ай бұрын
Very helpful and informative. I am a retired accountant and into DIY cabinetry/bookshelves/etc just as a new hobby.
@mohammadrajput9550
@mohammadrajput9550 4 күн бұрын
Current accountant here, been wanting to pick up woodworking for a long time
@jrrtt25
@jrrtt25 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked on the video for information, now I’m falling asleep because his voice is ASMR gold. 😴
@n0vaph0enix
@n0vaph0enix 3 жыл бұрын
Thought this would be one of those “oh it’s obviously x” videos, but actually learned a lot as to why I was wrong! Great information on the rationale!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@artyb27
@artyb27 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I figured "well obviously the top should sit on the sides, because if the top has stuff on it then it'll be heavy and the sides will provide extra support". I'm very glad I watched this before I actually started making anything.
@CRAZYCR1T1C
@CRAZYCR1T1C 2 жыл бұрын
Wall hung use different method to floor standing
@lcjrio
@lcjrio Жыл бұрын
And if you want to use it as a table (upper side to support things), is it better to put that piece of wood over the wood side, isn't it? One question more (thanks in advance), if you want to link 2 pieces of wood (i.e. 2 cm wide each one) like in the video, what must the screw length be to ensure that they will have a perfect and resistant union? Is there any rule about it? Thanks a lot!
@rm367
@rm367 Жыл бұрын
Yea i was wrong too but then i didnt realise it should be a wall cabinet carcass lol
@Maghanashi
@Maghanashi 3 жыл бұрын
Leaving the cut of the bench moving and the track clattering you on the head was a great little touch.
@msensenbaugh
@msensenbaugh Жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched a lot of cabinet making videos. I loved how straight forward, concise, reasonable this video is. You earned a new subscriber!
@hannahswann747
@hannahswann747 Жыл бұрын
I like your succinct style, getting straight to the point with no waffle. Thanks a lot 👍
@bombdatacenters
@bombdatacenters 3 ай бұрын
Showing how hard it was to pull the wall off made it crystal clear. Thanks a lot
@Mikej1592
@Mikej1592 Жыл бұрын
watched for the info, subscribed because you kept the part where that track fell on your head, multiple times from multiple angles, so very relatable I love it. This makes so much sense and answered this question I often wondered about why things were the way they were. Also, that fact that wen you have shelves having them the same length as the top and bottom just has a better look about it as well. So it makes the sides look better and even the symmetry of the front looks better as well.
@alexandrapacheco4293
@alexandrapacheco4293 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best “how to” videos I’ve come across. Thank you for making it so clear and easy. 👍🏼 This is exactly what I’m looking for.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you! 👍
@jmkelly7710
@jmkelly7710 Жыл бұрын
This was so easy to follow and made so much sense along the way. Great explanation for a simple concept that I hadn't thought about but hope to build a vanity this year.
@DGHamblin
@DGHamblin Жыл бұрын
Excellent job! Great video! Straight forward, plain and simple with no unnecessary talking. Subscribed
@marklondon9004
@marklondon9004 Жыл бұрын
Something tells me that I need to watch a lot more of your videos before I go and start my first project
@juncags1
@juncags1 3 жыл бұрын
"Once you see it you can't unsee it." True, no matter how small the defect... :-)
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. This post will come back to me next time I look in the mirror.
@onethousandwinds
@onethousandwinds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing me this!!! I would have never thought how important this is. So many things make sense now.
@jamesrichards2980
@jamesrichards2980 2 жыл бұрын
Loving that hinged track saw setup. That has really got me thinking about my own workshop, I don't have a lot of room but this could be a good fix!
@terencefranks1688
@terencefranks1688 Жыл бұрын
..... just make sure the track does'nt continually fall down on to your head ! .....
@mmartinez4117
@mmartinez4117 Жыл бұрын
@@terencefranks1688 😂😂 right?
@3luizcunha
@3luizcunha 3 жыл бұрын
I can say, that was the best 9 minutes i've spent this week learning something.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
🙌👍👍
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@fabianryland4297 2 жыл бұрын
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@watsonzaire9081 2 жыл бұрын
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@mnmishi81
@mnmishi81 Жыл бұрын
You fit a lot of information in a straight forward and efficient video. Love it!
@billkamp3284
@billkamp3284 3 жыл бұрын
Kismet. Just starting some kitchen cabinets. My first. Thank you.
@catsmeow5566
@catsmeow5566 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I like how concise you are. You got straight to the point but still gave enough info to explain.
@Lennart1995
@Lennart1995 2 ай бұрын
No nonsense, just densely packed with useful information. Thank you!
@Phartan117
@Phartan117 3 жыл бұрын
Peter is a consummate professional. Great explanations with equally great demonstrations to illustrate the point. I loved how he took the time to square up his work piece as he was nailing it together while knowing he was going to pull it apart immediately. It's that attention to details (even ones that don't matter in this case) that leads to such fine craftsmanship. Very well done video.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@pukicat
@pukicat 8 ай бұрын
Hi there Phartan 117 . Yes I agree with you , Peter is the real thing . I have been doing this sort of work for fifty years and that before one srarts with any project it is a good idea to think about the possibilities that the finish product is going to be exposed to , this is the mechanics of the structure . Then , of course , is the aesthetics which is quite important . With all this in mind one can build good and functional , not only cabinets but , all sorts of things . Keep it clean , keep it simple . And in the end you will find that you will develop your own style . Cheers!
@Steve_Wardley_G6JEF
@Steve_Wardley_G6JEF 3 жыл бұрын
This is such valuable information, new people are entering the craft all the time and these tips need telling frequently, cheers Peter.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen! 👍👍
@wernerxldata
@wernerxldata 6 ай бұрын
Nothing better than proof, no discussions needed about this after watching this movie. Great job !
@grumpywiseguy5992
@grumpywiseguy5992 3 жыл бұрын
Great video series idea that sums up all your previous build videos!!! My carcasses have all been with the top sitting on top of the sides. This was primarily because I was stacking carcasses on top of each other for a wall unit or a miter saw stand. That way I could distribute the weight across the top and then the top sat directly on the sides. However, the issue is getting all four sides to line up during glue up!! This has become such an issue that I have given up on this approach. Add to that situation, the use of dominos for joints and I am amazed I ever got the carcasses square and glued up!! Thanks!!
@gavdadgamer6210
@gavdadgamer6210 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I learned so much in this short video, so informative, felt like I was in a woodworking class, perfect, thank you
@idoReadme2
@idoReadme2 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to determine whether the cabinet is compressed or tensioned to decide on the wanted assembly configuration. For a floor standing cabinet you'd be better off with the sides inside the top and bottom. The way loads are normally applied on standing cabinets causes compression to the cabinet instead of tension. In this scenario it would be like your first experiment, but with pushing the vertical piece down toward the workbench instead of pulling up like you did. That's far stronger because you don't rely on your fasteners to take the load at all. For wall hung cabinets it is indeed better to have the top and bottom inside just like you explained. for the aesthetics it also depends on the case, and for ease of production I absolutely agree with you. Great video.
@CaptainofmyShed
@CaptainofmyShed 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t a cabinet under compression often have a separate top added to the carcass, as in a counter top or desk top, In which case top and bottom inside the sides remains a good solution?
@idoReadme2
@idoReadme2 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainofmyShed in case of an additional top, well In this case you have both and it's better of course, even though the bottom one won't take any significant load and therefore might be unnecessary. Don't forget the bottom piece, it still transfers the load from the sides to the feet. So you still benefit from setting up and cutting it to the outside dimensions. At this point it would make sense to also cut the top to the same measurements and benefit from the consistant appearance.
@fireroum
@fireroum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I came to ask about this because the video specified that it was for wall-hung cabinets, but what if mine were sitting on the floor? You answered my question. =)
@michaelsmithers4900
@michaelsmithers4900 8 ай бұрын
I had a similar thought looking at the thumbnail. I thought it was a simple side table or bookshelf that would take load better under compression in the “post and lintel” style. That said I definitely learned something from watching and for that I subscribed👍
@MrTurbodump
@MrTurbodump Жыл бұрын
I was about to ask about screws and nails and how that would change which way to connect the cabinet together, but I see the next part is about screws and nails, will have to watch that now
@jameskirkpatrick361
@jameskirkpatrick361 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, making a mobile cart w/ drawers for my bandsaw and was musing over the carcass construction. Now I'm convinced - top and bottom go inside the side walls.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Жыл бұрын
I made a tool cabinet that rolls on castors. I used full size base and top to give maximum vertical compression strength. The finished job is faced with commercial banner material. To date it has worked well. It was more hassle to fit shelves but I believe worth the effort.
@bertrandguisset546
@bertrandguisset546 3 жыл бұрын
Helping the algorithm. The series could become a well-deserved hit.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Fingers crossed! 👍
@lukedogwalker
@lukedogwalker 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you should mention the algorithm... I haven't had any videos suggested for months, then this one shows up without me having to go looking. I wonder if it's because of the mention on sponsorship? 🤔
@glennleader8880
@glennleader8880 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop If you didn't keep your fingers crossed. you might have avoided being hit on the head! LOL
@bertrandguisset546
@bertrandguisset546 3 жыл бұрын
I should be helping the algorithm more often :-) . I am glad to see this channel rise in popularity. Congratulations.
@DATApush3r
@DATApush3r Жыл бұрын
That saw track really had it out for you! Thank you so much for this really informative video!
@willfrances5844
@willfrances5844 3 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his stuff! Brilliant- i like the fast paced delivery of information. Feels like alot of thought and prep goes into these videos
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌👍
@mzbreski
@mzbreski 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I don’t build cabinets, but I still found this very informative.
@HowlinWilf13
@HowlinWilf13 3 жыл бұрын
The only exception to this is with base units (floor level) where the lower corners should have the sides sitting on the base. Ideally, the cabinet feet should also be positioned as close as possible to the cabinet sides to provided support for all the weight that will be bearing on those sides (crockery, pots and pans, granite worktops, large Belfast sinks etc). To cover any unsightly joints, you can incorporate end panels into your design.
@JameysVideos
@JameysVideos Жыл бұрын
Only the lower corners? Is there a reason why you wouldn’t do the top the same way so everything is sitting on top of each other vertically? Also curious to hear whether Mr Millard also does his this way?
@HowlinWilf13
@HowlinWilf13 Жыл бұрын
@@JameysVideos Many base units are not made with tops, and only have a couple of rails (horizontal components) between the tops of the sides (front and back), because there'll be a worktop of some sort being put on. And, these rails are only necessary to hold the sides at the correct distance apart while fixing the case to the frame, with the rear rail providing an edge to screw the top of the cabinet's back to. The worktop will be directly in contact with the tops of the sides, so as long as the sides are supported properly, there shouldn't be a problem.
@HousewerkRecords
@HousewerkRecords Жыл бұрын
Found this video really useful. I’m about to build a Dj console which is essentially a long shallow box. I’m planning this for the sides to go on top of the base as this will put less stress (no stress) on the screws. I’ll do the same with the front and back panels but the left and right sides will be attached on the outside. Then the top will go on for a nice smooth surface. I’m cutting the squares out to sink the decks and mixer in so they will be flush with the surface.
@sidlerm1
@sidlerm1 Жыл бұрын
That's the channel I have been looking for for ages. Thank you so much.
@charlesbattle4380
@charlesbattle4380 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Simple, information and straightforward
@DryBonz1
@DryBonz1 Жыл бұрын
This was a big confidence booster. I have no experience with making cabinets, but I've seen it done, and it never struck me as being too complicated. At some point, I heard someone say cabinets were "the most technically complicated part of any building," and that gave me a lasting fear of trying. I see now that they are far more approachable than I ever realized.
@meirabass
@meirabass 2 жыл бұрын
In a company I've worked for 9 years we usually worked with 45º cuts. Depending on the size of the furniture, we used some wooden "biscuits" joints (with carpenter glue) to mount it afterwards. It always worked pretty well
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
How are you hanging them? No way I’d trust a wall-hung cabinet with biscuited bevel joints unless they were on some very heavy fixings, personally. 🤷‍♂️👍
@hueybui
@hueybui 2 жыл бұрын
Great series of videos. It’s always nice to refresh and fully understand some of the fundamentals. Side note, there’s something soothing about listening and learning from you English folks. Your’s and Peter Seller’s voice soothes as I learn. Thanks!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@Pettie95
@Pettie95 3 ай бұрын
Really appreciate how this video was put together, clear and informative, thank you!
@hendyhandoyo8972
@hendyhandoyo8972 3 жыл бұрын
Love it, you explained super clear and with great examples ❤️
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@dalesworld1308
@dalesworld1308 3 жыл бұрын
The track for your saw being hinged on the bench is brilliant.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it is! 👍👍
@rollthetape88
@rollthetape88 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop did you build this or buy it? incredible
@marcalbert3559
@marcalbert3559 3 жыл бұрын
@@rollthetape88 Festool MFT table
@interceptor7905
@interceptor7905 3 жыл бұрын
When you said brilliant I was thinking on Paul Whitehouse lol!
@ISKLEMMI
@ISKLEMMI Жыл бұрын
Thank you for laying out your reasoning so clearly. I also appreciate that you left in clips where the track swung down and bopped you in the noggin. A cautionary tale about workshop safety! 😂
@wherewewent
@wherewewent 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is very clear. Everyone can follow and understand. Enjoyed the video.
@michaellazarou6891
@michaellazarou6891 3 жыл бұрын
Reasons 1, 2 and 3 shown - reason 0 is actually the important one: cabinets NEED to be all the same *height*. Differing widths, the eye doesn't notice - cabinets abut each other, micro-variations in width dont matter. But micro-variations is what you get, between sheets of board AND edging applications: in the trade, this is called "cabinet creep". For example: make cabinet of H600, W300. Let board thickness = t. Assume T=20mm for your calculations. Incorrectly made box (top+bot overpassing sides) has sides of H560. But T *actually* is 20.2mm - now your box is 0.4mm higher than your end panels you've cut/bought! Whereas with sides overpassing, that thickness defect *goes to the middle*, ie. the opening is reduced by that 0.4mm... But nobody's counting that - fingers feel unflush parts, eyes don't unsee and houseguests dont forget 😂😂😂 This is even more critical for BASE cabinets, as you need a dead-level surface for natural stone tops to sit upon. Else, trouble. And oven towers/stacked cabinets: cabinet creep quickly adds up to be +\- up to 2mm, as compared to bought-in end panels.
@vapeurdepisse
@vapeurdepisse 2 жыл бұрын
That's largely exaggerated. By the time the installer sets up the cabinets, you will definitely have some variation, with absolutely no consequence visually or structurally. The stone countertop will be just fine because the countertop installer uses shims anyway. Been there, done that.
@michaellazarou6891
@michaellazarou6891 2 жыл бұрын
@@vapeurdepisse never had a countertop installer use shims on my cabinets. And we're taking about upper cabinets as well. And sit-in-top cabinets. Been there, done this for 15years straight.
@theoneboomer
@theoneboomer 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve been doing this for 15 years and you assume the thickness of a material instead of actually measuring it and then doing your calculations with that number? Seems a very simple way to avoid the whole problem you described and was the first thing I learned day one on the job: “measure twice, cut once”.
@michaellazarou6891
@michaellazarou6891 2 жыл бұрын
There can be a 0.3mm variation between sheetgoods, just from the manufacturer's different batches. There can be that much variation in a sheet, even. Like everything, not all products are equal. Some processes have thickness checks built into them. For example, I double-sided nest about 40t of MDF p.a. As it's profiled on both the face and reverse, the thickness of the sheet is calipered for each sheet processed. However, for the other 120 tons of board on the single-sided line - software, fittings and construction method cover it all. I might only check the board thickness 3 times p. a.
@jamiemcgrory1964
@jamiemcgrory1964 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you posted this right after I finished up some wall cabinets with the top/bottom outside the sides 😂
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, sorry! 😬 They'll be fine - but this is my preferred way. 🤷‍♂️👍
@moelmakrani7116
@moelmakrani7116 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jetblackstar
@jetblackstar 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad. Same here, but by pure laziness of not cutting different lengths for shelves Vs tops and bottoms, I did it how the vid suggests. Bum luck lol. I actually thought I was choosing a mechanically weaker option. Though these are stand alone shelves not a cabinet. So arguably the down force is. 😜
@syaani
@syaani 3 жыл бұрын
You can rotate the whole cabinet 90 degrees and you'll have your top/bottom between the sides.
@jetblackstar
@jetblackstar 3 жыл бұрын
@@syaani genuine lol. Both funny and true. Just take care your plates don't smash when you do it 😁
@MysteryNotes
@MysteryNotes Жыл бұрын
Hello Peter, Thank you for your video, as someone starting out looking into woodworking it's been tremendously helpful! Sean
@iankearns
@iankearns 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see these basic tutorials on your channel Peter. Your clear explanation will be a massive help to those just starting and demonstrated better than can be explained in a FB group. Can see links to this being posted in groups for a long time to come!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! All the vids in this series will be in a playlist for easy access, too! 👍
@Metal-wood
@Metal-wood 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!!! I think that both metods have diferents advantages, in case of a kitchen cabinet with plastic legs and a huge piece of marble on the top "the above metod" i think that can suport this weight in a better way because is sitting on the sides and in your case the weight is on the screws or whatever you use in this join. In terms of aesthetics sometimes this cabinets goes under a final panels of with a clean finish (melamine,...) and so the screws are no longer visible. Anyhow good point on your explanation too. Keed your great work!!!
@vapeurdepisse
@vapeurdepisse 2 жыл бұрын
The heavy counter wouldn't rest on the screws because you're supposed to have a slight reveal so that the sides are in contact with the counter, not the top.
@leeballs9305
@leeballs9305 2 жыл бұрын
@@vapeurdepisse he means if the granite is sitting on the side panels as it should be, and the side panels are only supported by the fixings into the base panel, and the cabinet feet don’t sit under the side panels, then the weight of the granite would be on the fixings into the base panel. This is resolved by the cabinet feet being shaped to also support the side panels.
@mawuseadamaley703
@mawuseadamaley703 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I however bet to differ on the stress test you conducted. The concern should be on the weight the inner board can bear before it fails and not trying to rip the carcass out. I believe the one set on top because it rests on the two side boards is much stronger. You make a good point with the aesthetics tough. Thank you for sharing.
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Congratulations on having a sponsor for making this kind of series. Thanks for bringing physics into woodworking. It made it very understandable. 32 years ago I made particle board cubes. The back was made of plywood or hardboard. They were made to stand next and on each other. Since the 4 main parts were squares 30x30 cm. It wasn't a real cube. But when putting it together I put the top part ON the side parts. Wrong, or an exception to the rule? Some of the cubes are still "alive" and in use.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Not wrong at all Hans; as I say very specifically in the video, I'm talking about wall-hung cabinets here - though personally I'd still fit the top & base between the sides on a floor-mounted box, just for the additional benefits. 👍
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for your comment. Way back then I didn't have any knowledge of woodworking. The pieces of 30x30 cm were cut in the store where I bought the whole sheets. Painting (and drying of the paint) took forever and the only tools I had was a drill, a drill standard, some drill bits and screwdriver bits. But it was fun making it. The additional benefits of doing it your way are obvious so I know how to do it in the future. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series. A 101 video about making drawers I'd highly welcome. There are a lot of myths about that as well.
@metalformer4851
@metalformer4851 Жыл бұрын
Good video! Simple but very informative with examples of the various way of doing things and applying logic to the manufacturing.
@TheEgg185
@TheEgg185 Жыл бұрын
5:26 😂 lol. That was the best part of the video.
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Love that adding a rabbet makes the joint include the advantages of both.
@timothymbess
@timothymbess 3 жыл бұрын
It also gives you exponentially more surface area for glue. Not that MDF glues particularly well, though, but it applies in principle to hardwoods and softwoods.
@TheKamiBunny
@TheKamiBunny 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, you can glue MDF well if you seal the cut edges first before gluing. I tested this out a while back when trying to make a box to insert in between the studs of my wall for integrated storage. You can either lather wood glue into the cut end(and it will suck up a heck of a lot) or I tried with a hi voc varnish just in the edge, and this worked a treat. Purely on just the end to side glue, the sealed edges were able to take 4 times the weight of an unprepared edge before snapping off, and it wasn't even the glue snapping but the surface of the side mdf tearing slightly.
@XJWill1
@XJWill1 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothymbess I don't think that word means what you think it means (exponentially). A rabbet can, at most, give just under twice the surface area for glue (assuming both boards are the same thickness). But to get that much requires a very thin portion of the board. More typically the rabbet will give you an extra 50%.
@jacobacon3219
@jacobacon3219 3 жыл бұрын
@@XJWill1 Inconceivable!
@dibblethwaite
@dibblethwaite 3 жыл бұрын
@@XJWill1 I was just about to say that. I think covid has made the word popular.
@victorrivas2350
@victorrivas2350 3 жыл бұрын
The credit reel along with the ending footage won me over and I subscribed!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and welcome! 👍👍
@stevieobrien
@stevieobrien 3 жыл бұрын
Between that and the intro it nearly made me turn off
@Mark_How
@Mark_How 3 ай бұрын
This was really informative, thanks! I'm intrigued though by the track saw as a table saw. Seems like the best of both worlds for someone trying to decide which to get
@horizontbeskrajneinovacije6440
@horizontbeskrajneinovacije6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you...great video, presentation, demonstration, explanation, simplicity, clarity...
@Andrew-gu7kf
@Andrew-gu7kf 3 жыл бұрын
You're the best! I've always wondered about that. You always show and explain things so well, whether it's a more complicated process or something basic like this that some people may not think is important to point out. I think I may have to stay away from track saws though. They're so dangerous. 🤣 Hope your headache is better.👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Next episode - when tracksaws attack - out next week! 😂 And thanks! 🙌 👍
@mariosapostolou7992
@mariosapostolou7992 3 жыл бұрын
You just got me smilling so loud😁 .
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, thanks! 😂 👍
@daiblaze1396
@daiblaze1396 3 ай бұрын
Yeah well you nailed it. Was searching this yesterday. Came across this link. Easily the simplest and detailed info out there. Thanks !
@kabisatwaha711
@kabisatwaha711 2 жыл бұрын
You are so good in playing a teacher anyways i appreaciated i got to say im reliieved
@jason-hh6lu
@jason-hh6lu 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of times my rail has hit me when I least expect it. 😂 nice video.👍🏻
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
They're sneaky like that! And thanks! 👍
@stuartthomas1980
@stuartthomas1980 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed you getting hit in the head by the rail a bit too much! Great video, and well explained as per usual. An essential channel for me. Thanks.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, how I laughed! 😂 And thanks! 👍👍
@jamesrodgers3132
@jamesrodgers3132 3 жыл бұрын
Sadist!
@mohamedshams8014
@mohamedshams8014 Жыл бұрын
Only watched two videos of yours and already learning alot! thank you Peter!
@aurooy
@aurooy 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it should be IN BETWEEN when is about HANGING cabinets. But it goes ON TOP when is about STANDING forms.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that depends... ‘Base cabinetry basics’ video coming along shortly... 👍
@bwizzy9218
@bwizzy9218 Ай бұрын
You’re going to need a hard hat 😅
@Goalsplus
@Goalsplus 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! I've been looking for this type of information for a long time. Thank you in advance.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@littlebrother82
@littlebrother82 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't tell the whole story though. He only addresses hanging cabinets. For a base cabinet, the primary load is compressing down on the top and having the top piece go through to the end will spread out the load a bit and never fail. It's not that critical in cabinets but in something that needs to bear a lot of compressive weight it's something to consider. I'd still go with this video's recommendation 9 times out of 10.
@Goalsplus
@Goalsplus 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlebrother82 Thanks. That's along the line of information I would like to learn. Do you have anymore to share?
@littlebrother82
@littlebrother82 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goalsplus I remember this coming up when someone was building a shop cart (mobile workbench). It was simple, a plywood base with casters, some ply corner uprights and a top. He had screwed the uprights into the side of the base, which would fail if under a bunch of weight. If the uprights go on top of the base, it could withstand much more punishment. I think he found a middle ground by adding an extra piece on the inside, so it ended up having the best of both worlds.
@j10001
@j10001 Жыл бұрын
That was surprisingly helpful. Thank you! You saved me from making an amateur mistake I would have regretted!
@travisradke9753
@travisradke9753 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter! Perfect timing for all of the shop cabinets in about to build. Can’t wait to see the rest of the series, definitely just subscribed to your channel.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Travis, and welcome! 👍👍
@twotopsturning6493
@twotopsturning6493 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, you really are going back to the basics. Can't wait for the rest of the series
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@MrAas41
@MrAas41 3 жыл бұрын
cant believe i got excited watching this. absolutely loved this, would love to gain experience in cabinetry work
@paulcarey1708
@paulcarey1708 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God! I want that shop! Coolest bench/clamp/saw combo ever!
@SachinJavsen
@SachinJavsen 2 жыл бұрын
I am doing a DIY Wall Mounted Folding Table. I am doing exactly what you have explained. KZfaq is really amazing that it showed your informative video on this approach. Your explanation is very educative for hobbyist like me. Thanks a ton, Peter!!! 💗
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@horatiobeaker
@horatiobeaker 3 жыл бұрын
Joint - 1 ; Head - 0 In all seriousness, this is a great series. Thank you for taking the time to produce this.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🤕😂😂👍
@DunerecordsGent
@DunerecordsGent 3 жыл бұрын
Soon in your local entertainment store : Peter Millard , the Ultimate dvd edition : the bloopers .Count me in ...
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Haha - boxed set available this Christmas! 😂🤡👍
@nmancini
@nmancini 3 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate the material you present and how you present the topics. A big thank you from a relatively new woodworker out of US
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! 🙌 👍
@TaneaTerracotta
@TaneaTerracotta 2 жыл бұрын
Peter, you channel is such a blessing! Thanks for always making such quality videos!!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌👍
@atzmonkosovsky9683
@atzmonkosovsky9683 3 жыл бұрын
I do hope you put these videos into a one playlist so we can come back easily
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed! DOn't think I've done that yet, but I will! Thanks! 👍
@londonmaker5347
@londonmaker5347 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter, I'm really looking forward to watching the rest of this series.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!👍
@jojacobs4355
@jojacobs4355 2 жыл бұрын
Very valid points when hanging cabinets! Thank you!
@wesingtogether
@wesingtogether Жыл бұрын
5:30 excellent demonstration
@TheKamiBunny
@TheKamiBunny 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I ran test before building my cupboard for my stacked washer and dryer. I came the same conclusion that it was dependant on the forces I was applying to the cabinet. Screw and glue and what was resting above.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@k.hussain360
@k.hussain360 3 жыл бұрын
Peter risking concussion to illustrate the point. Hope that didn't hurt too much.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hhurram - you know what they say, no sense, no feeling! 😂🤕
@paulatcliffe8905
@paulatcliffe8905 3 жыл бұрын
When workbenches attack !!
@drakejdf
@drakejdf 2 жыл бұрын
Great information.I’m 53 never built a cabinet in my life I fixed a few things I’m an auto mechanic.now I build refrigeration compressors but I never really dabbled in building stuff out of wood and I just purchased a cargotrailer I wanna convert into a tiny home just for fun/camping and what not so I’m trying to figure out what I need to make some cabinetry and a slide out bed etc.this was helpful thanks.
@jefffialkowski3846
@jefffialkowski3846 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter, this video is very helpful. I appreciate the time you put in to educate others. This video will be a big help when I start building my cabinets. ✌️
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 9 ай бұрын
You are very welcome. 👍
@chrismarquez2232
@chrismarquez2232 3 жыл бұрын
I would simply make my cabinets or dressers based on the aesthetic. I’m glad to learn there are two more benefits to keep doin what I’m doin.
@Baerenbruder87
@Baerenbruder87 3 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of basic craftmanship education i wish someone had taught me in highschool!
@Hessijames79
@Hessijames79 3 жыл бұрын
This is not only high quality information but also high quality entertainment. Thank you so much!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😆👍
@WarrenPeace007
@WarrenPeace007 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video thanks a lot. I like the way it quickly gets to the point, instead of labouring it
@ollie9199
@ollie9199 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else stared your workbench for hours procrastinating on how you want to put your box together 😆
@michael7144
@michael7144 3 жыл бұрын
Today
@natebell5026
@natebell5026 3 жыл бұрын
So much time spent staring at tools/projects with no idea how to proceed 😂
@leeboglazersout1958
@leeboglazersout1958 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@TheDcraft
@TheDcraft 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@usaf4dbt
@usaf4dbt 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, first time I've heard this, and seen an actual example test. How's your head after being whacked?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And all well - no sense, no feeling, and all that... 😂 👍
@JustinPaul1st
@JustinPaul1st 3 жыл бұрын
5 minutes into the video I see you sir using an ESTWING hammer...you surely worth your salt to be using such a high craftsman tool...Great respect to you and anybody who knows and works with an ESTWING hammer...👍👍👍👍now for the rest of the video which in it's self is very educational👏👏👏👏🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@nam.321
@nam.321 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You answered the exact question I had been wondering about making corners in a future project.
@SeaAndHere
@SeaAndHere 3 жыл бұрын
Rail hitting P. Millard - Like a Family Guy episode - Peter Griffin gets beaten by something over and over exceeding people's normal patience level..
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
😂👍
@fernandaherfinancialedit2683
@fernandaherfinancialedit2683 3 жыл бұрын
10 seconds into the video at I’m thinking to myself “this guys sounds cool I wish he was my uncle”. I’ve never used a power tool in my life but I’m getting the feeling I’m gonna watch every single one of these videos. 🤣
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
🙌😆👍👍
@BuildingZine
@BuildingZine 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video. It is easy to understand. Nice jig to the circular saw too.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! 👍
@casimircreer2295
@casimircreer2295 3 жыл бұрын
Super simple but I've gotta learn somehow! Speed and pace of delivery was great. Straight to the point and easy to follow. Thanks.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@casimircreer2295
@casimircreer2295 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop I'll be trying to make some built ins around my fire place in a couple of months. Any tips there, will. Have to look through your back catalogue, only just found you
@gregrossel3978
@gregrossel3978 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion it is better to use a rabbet instead of a butt joint on exposed sides. It makes it easier to assemble and increases strength since there is so much more surface glue area. You can also put in screws from above since they will not be seen and pin nails from the side. Also at the intersection of the two pices it is easier to hide the gap between the pices. It does take a bit more time.
@adriansosialuk276
@adriansosialuk276 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great series. Just seeing this first video of the series makes me think that you missed one thing to mention however. You do explain and show why having a top and bottom between sides has benefits but you do not show the benefits of having top and bottom over and below the sides. And the main benefit is that if you intend to build a piece of furniture that is going to be standing on the floor and you are intending to put some heavy things on the top then it is simply going to be stronger for the very same reasons you explained. I am looking forward to seeing the whole series!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian! I do make it clear that this is a wall-hung cabinet, and TBH I would always have the sides run all the way through to the top even if it was floor-mounted *unless there was a very good reason not to* eg if there was an overhanging top. The bottom edge of the sides is either supported either by the plinth, or the adjustable feet, and in the case of the overhanging top, then I'd have rails front & back of the carcass that the top could bear against, and be fixed to. Hope that makes sense! P 👍
@adriansosialuk276
@adriansosialuk276 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Yes - makes sense. As always - do what works for you I guess. I had few projects where it had to be the way I described but I agree - having the same width makes all much quicker. All the best!
@ChristopherClaudioSkierka
@ChristopherClaudioSkierka 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop ...I suppose also if it was not a ceiling tall stand alone wardrobe then the sides are best on the inside since it is very likely things would be stacked on top for example a suitcase full of items. If it has wheels at the base again the sides would need to be on the inside. I now your builds are generally with a plinth and to ceiling height so I can understand your way :), its just that 1%
@diegosacuna
@diegosacuna 3 жыл бұрын
I am from Argentina and when the furniture rests all the weight on the base I assemble it as you say. I hardly ever build as proposed in the video for multiple reasons. Every situation has its solution. Hug
@daveyjones7391
@daveyjones7391 3 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled on this video, but your analysis was clear, concise, and objective. I'm now going to binge a bunch of your videos and look forward to new ones as a subscriber. Cheers from Saskatoon, SK, Canada!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and welcome! Very best wishes from London! 👍
@michaelpayne8102
@michaelpayne8102 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same reason I use Euro Hangers and a Rail for upper cabinets and leveler legs on lowers that support the sidewalls. Cabinet fasteners in shear (be it Confirmat, dominos, dowels, etc) are great in shear.
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