Yeah it felt so creepy

Yes! Watching it as an adult it definitely made me uncomfortable!

It was really unnecessary honestly even if it's expressing how attractive she is to Cory and other boys... Definitely inappropriate too.

That was so scary.

yes i literally came here to comment that

No it’s actually romantic, it’s expressing how his wife has changed his life

"you cant even win a game of solitaire imbecile" genuinely makes me snicker bc of how fucking cold that shit is thats like fillmore "the chicken was dry, bone dry" level savage 💀

@@JamesChessman yeah he basically said that she changed his life in a bad way, how tf is that romantic? I wouldn’t think so if I had a husband that told me that.

@@e_internic0la2487 jeez well for one thing, Corey was celibate when he was dating her so he was celibate all through his entire public education and college! So he gave up a lifetime of potential sexual activity for her. For starters…

@@JamesChessman you sound toxic

I thought so too!

It’s not that deep zesty

@@MrAjking808 it’s very weird actually

​@@aviraesyou're so sensitive

@@afrolore7462get therapy

oof fr. it’s so inappropriate

Yeah seeing that scene again it is was very offputting to hear the audience react like that

Right! Soooo weird

YEAH i just commented abt that. it made my skin crawl omg. she's still a minor!! ew?!??!?!

@@cheesecake134 if it makes you feel better, as someone whos been in live studio audiences i can confirm the cheers were prompted by some suit with a sign. blame the directors

what episode was that from

You could also just blame it on the fact that human memory is inconsistent in general, they were just kids after all in most of the variations of their origin lol

GIrl meets first date. She jokes about all the consistencies, she even got mixed up with one of Cory and Shawn’s moments

@@prplaj The show complicates this by having the memories be so consistent like ‘when I was four’ and at least for the length of the episode, other characters will cosign this as fact with no variations or discrepancy. Making it feel like the hand of the writer making a retcon as opposed to the character having inconsistent memory. And because this is a TV show, the fact is the first two seasons (before the ‘we met when we were born’ thing) they don’t act like old friends who lost touch, they act like two kids in middle school who barely know each other. If he really went from her best friend to ‘throwing dirt at her for 6 years’ it doesn’t gel with how Topanga acted toward him in those middle school years. The adorable ‘high five’ moment where Cory has that stupidly adorable giggle works because of the newness of it for him, the discovery of it. It’s actually pretty impressive to meet the person you actually end up marrying at 12 but instead of being ok with that being a moment of change in his feelings, the writers felt the need to invent a time far before this moment that Cory was so aware of being in love with her, as a toddler, that he plots to get another competitor for her love out of the way. And that doesn’t read as inconsistency in memory, it yells ‘retcon’ pretty loud.

@@TheDawnofVanlife I treat this kinda show just same as SpongeBob, they are inconsistent, like every episode has its own universe and continuity

Ikr I can't stop looking at them

Yes but I hope you guys are not being perverted about it

@@JamesChessman what

@@JamesChessman Dude huh? 😂

Oh my gosh I know! Her hair's incredible!

The fact in girl meets world he married someone else break my heart

@@mjsummer177 like and they re-wrote their entire relationship and Angela to seem like this toxic thing. Like if you don’t want them together, that’s fine people grow up, they find different interests, they just don’t get back together but to make her seem like she was a terrible person and to make the relationship seem like it wasn’t as deep and as trusting, as loving as it actually was truthfully disgusting… And when you find out all the drama behind the scenes, you realise why they were happy to do that to Angela and her actress

@@NyikoDoris BRO RIGHT I stopped liking the main ship just cause she said the only one that wasn't racist to her was Shawn also u can clearly see the chemistry was so good off and on camera disney and the other company haters I thought for yrs those 2 was the toxic couple

truly

@@mjsummer177 She didn’t say Rider was the only one. Please educate yourself.

It’s because her Danielle’s Mum would spend HOURS braiding her hair and when she became a regular it became too much

@@kristinmartin2899so then it was naturally straight? So she didn’t straighten it but that was popular at the time flat irons were popular in the 90s 00s

No it's not naturally like that, I braid my hair sometimes and when I unbraid it looks just like that.

Agreed, it was always back and forth between them. They couldn’t be happy for long without something happening. It was too much.

I loved it! I bought into the lost years explanation

They did but topanga was young she still wanted to be single Corey already knew and affter decades and graduation she did too because cory was always chasing her that time it was the other way but Yale we would have did long distance 😂but they were healthy fighting is normal sometimes they are not toxic just normal cory knew what he wanted that's all..

Wrong!! They definitely had chemistry in that very early episode that they were like 9 years old and they kissed, not to mention that it’s basically disturbing and inappropriate, but aside from that, they had some kind of perverted kissing connection

@@JamesChessman Lol they weren't nine, they were 12. But either way the point is Cory didn't know Topanga very well even if they did have chemistry. Topanga wasn't even sure if she wanted to be with Cory before he officially asked out in the beginning of season 3. While the later seasons blatantly say that they have been actively dating since they toddlers which just isn't true.

this whole show feels weird to me, maybe cause I had my first bf at 17 but even then, we didn't have that much relationships drama at school

The BMW studio audience straight up acted like the studio audience for Married with Children sometimes. Weird asf for what started out as a children’s show.

Exactly, it was so gross the way they cheered and whistled over little children.

She didn't, Pennbrook is a straight up university, one that Mr. Feeny respects and later attends and works at, it's just not Ivy League like Yale.

Actually, Cory wasn't the only reason Topanga stayed. It was revealed at the very end of the show that a bigger reason for her not going was being afraid to step out of her comfort zone and fearing that she would fail if she were to go to Yale.

I still think it's not ridiculous

It's literally just a show calm down

to be fair i think she was going to nyu when they moved to new york because they left in the middle of their education😭

Maybe don’t let a kids tv show decide your value for the rest of your life

@@nitely2345it's almost like they probably watched it when they were young and when you're young the things you see in tv stick with you subconsciously... they're not saying to this day they think straight hair is more attractive bc of one character

The 90s😂

why? she was already upset about it, why would he make it worse when there was nothing they could do to change it at that point?

exactly 💀

As someone who is with their high school sweetheart, if my partner got into an ivy league school I'm going with him! And knowing him, he would do the same. If I can get into community college in my town, chances are I can get in at another town 💀

it was not a cc, it was a high respected college,

Yeah, or they could do long distance for a bit

Ong😂

The show was very inconsistent

@@Al_Bundy_In_A_Soda_Cup Yes. So was Eric's character. In the first seasons, he's an average, caring big brother and in the last one, he's just an enormous moron who barely can articulate

I mean they did it because of his comedian career or something but yeah, he was still very stupid. All he did in S7 was worry about the smallest thing.@@LiTtLeJuNe3

I feel like what ruined Cory and Topanga's relationship was in S5 E14@@LiTtLeJuNe3

For sure! ❤

Agreed. I'd watch an hour long video talking about them as well XD

@@ATD-uc3lb I definitely would too lol.

@@ATD-uc3lb Same

FR

we may never know

Whatever writers wanted it to be that week.

to be fair I feel like loving someone and being in love are two different things, the firefly moment could be when he knew he loved her but could have fell in love in the lipstick scene

@@dawnglitterwind to be fair don’t a lot of writers hired in later seasons not have the requirement or even the time to watch the earlier seasons so they just watch a few episodes to get the general idea of what the show is like

this is sooo hilarious

!!!!!!!

the real best ship

Now that was a roller coaster cory and topanga was stable compared to them two 😂

Bruh that was one of the shows ultimate romances.

Shawn was the therapist of the group

He doesn’t?

@@haileejacob1995 girl did you watch the show lol

@tiki98 Probably old enough to know that there were 2 girls and Cory never kissed them back?

@@youreapunkishthing9438 yeah…he never dated someone at the same time as he dated topanga…

@@haileejacob1995 He was found in one girls basement alone with her. While she was seducing him. He was stuck in a room with a girl, while visiting a college, alone I mean there’s more but those are the main ones. I love boy meets world but Cory really just is a douche bag…

The way they just expected for their parents to take them in too 💀

Then they expect their parents to help them out and take care of them😂

exactly but it also shows how spoiled both of them were and the fact that cory attacked shawn for having a nice apartment for him and Angela when they're not married. Later season Cory is so disgusting as a character.

he did not attack them, he said it was unfair, and guess what someone else was paying shawn bills. so what did cory do, fix there apartment for his wife.

That's the unrealistic part of the show like they where spoiled and relied on mommy or dad for a house

I've never watched the show but when Caitlin played the clip I was very confused on what the big fuss was about because it was clearly a kiss on the cheek. Idk if it's just some cultural difference or what, but where I'm from a kiss on the cheek is 100% a valid way to interact with your friends with no romantic feelings attached, not just in a sad moment like the one in the show but happy moments, celebrations, or even just casually, like greeting... So them talking about the kiss on the cheek like it was some make-out session made no sense to me

In American media that I've seen friends don't kiss on the cheek. If you've got tv or movie examples where friends have any kiss you can list them. I'd really like to see clips of examples, but it can be hard to find an exact clip.

@@melodyclark1944 There are examples, from around that time. I've seen shows and movies from the early 90s and before that with cheek kisses between friends. I'm fairly certain the show Thirty-something and the movie St. Elmo's Fire have examples. There aren't many recent examples I've seen, though.

Right? I Saw it was on the Cheek, that's not a big deal

i agree that the clip makes it look like it’s on the cheek but i think they shot it vague like that on purpose cause we’re seeing it from eric’s perspective. shawn never defends the kiss by saying it was on the cheek which is why i didn’t treat it as one.

I noticed that on a rewatch as an adult. He even gets up in her face angrily pointing his finger while yelling. That’s aggressive af! Topanga deserved better.

Ohhh I remember and I was not okay when he got that angry in those scenes… especially the one with his dad and his marriage. Like bro, you need to back it up. Allen was a good man.

@@xxDeeMmmVeexx He yelled at his mom like that too and everyone just stood there! I was like ALLEN COME GET YOUR SON BEFORE I DO

actually kinda scary, it reminds me of my dad

@@cheesecake134 I was thinking the same thing!! Cory is freaking yelling at his mom and nobody including his mom is punishing him for it. It made me ball my fists up 😅

my sister has been dating her now husband since his first year of university (her second year), and they waited until they were both finished university before getting engaged, which was a long wait since she's a doctor

It definitely comes down to personal boundaries though as well. I mean I can't argue for fictional characters boundaries in a relationship. But it causing drama shows that clearly that it's not something they were cool with.

yessir

Well there’s also the problem that it was public display of kissing and it is corrosive to society because it leads to more and more kissing and affection in public until eventually it’s the fall of Rome all over again with orgies everywhere and empire crumbling around their orgies

@@JamesChessman LMFAO

I think even if he did kiss her on the lips, it would be fine. Me and my partner both have friends of various genders who we kiss on the lips when greeting or saying goodbye. I think we put too much significance on lips that's literally just a couple of centimeters away from an "insignificant" cheek. Both are just body parts. What matters is the intention with which you kiss someone, not the place, and most importantly whether your partner knows the meaning of a kiss you give to another person.

whoaaa that’s an interesting take and honestly you kinda sold me on it

this is the perfect comment and this fits for Ross and Rachel as well. They like the IDEA of these women but they don't fit them.

@@xanderkai6353 LETHIMCOOK i mean dude is right, this video literally shows how Cory is majority of the time chasing Topanga for physical things like her ass, sex, or making out.

Frrrrr

​@@softjytsu R & R were perfect for each other. People crap on Ross, but Rachel was just as toxic. Neither one was really a great person.

true

one of the main storylines of the whole show is about their relationship and how it has ups and downs. the whole show Is essentially a kids show but educating on life lessons and the problems of growing up and dealing with friendships and relationships. idk how you watch the show and see them putting Cory and topanga as the "perfect couple with no issues"

I think the people resonate with them is that they weren’t perfect and had to grow together. At first very immature and volatile until they slowly turned into the couple they were meant to be. That’s how I think people see it. I prefer Shawn and Angela.

He IS a man, after all. He is too tame and sweet in other situations, being borderline feminine, so it is good that he can stand up for himself when needed.

@@TheBrazilRulesyou can stand up for yourself without getting that aggressive

@@TheBrazilRulesthis is a worrying way to think

​@@TheBrazilRulesand this, kids, is called "toxic masculinity", and is to be avoided!

@msmith1613 if you remove masculinity, only toxic remains, and that is YOUR goal

That would make a lot of sense, considering how much they seem to have changed her character. I haven't watched the show for a while, so I might be wrong, but I remember she started as spiritual, an outcast, and confident in her unique "odd" self, in her first episode. Then she became a more traditionally beautiful, intelligent, popular girl in the later seasons.

yeah i heard that too like it also explains why she sort of just showed up out of nowhere halfway through season 1.

I don't see why they felt a need to retcon it so that Cory and Topanga were together since they were babies. couldn't they just be classmates who fell in love when they became adolescents?

True but shawn we all know guys like that very rarely unless the guy is a family man or just more mature they are going to say lie we have grown men still lie to their spouses rather than explain the truth they lie and then it comes out making it worse. .

But ultimately the decision was up to Cory and he made that choice.

Fr

all the times he cheated? pretty sure it was only once before and he was tricked by the girl thinking he was going to a party

Heck, this is probably why Girl Meets World sucked - because we have to watch the awkward result of that teeter totter get her own show.

Lauren and Cory are a what if ship

@@eatatjoes6751 Nono it definitely sucked for other reasons. Show would've had potential if it was on ABC tbh

Angela and Shawn were the superior couple

@@eatatjoes6751 the irony is that in s4 Topanga talks about how dysfunctional they are and how dysfunctional their family would be

i haven't seen the show, but, from what i've seen, i'd probably be more suspicious about shawn and cory's relationship if i was topanga. they play it for laughs because "HA, GAYYYY", but it almost crosses the line into actual romance sometimes. also, yeah, it's not that strange to kiss someone on the cheek (where i live, that's how we greet each other) and i wouldn't be concerned. a kiss on the forehead would have made more sense, though.

And I want to add that Topanga isn't only "the girlfriend of his best friend ", she was also one of his closest friends so I don't see the Hugh and the cheek kiss strange at all

Yeah, kissing a long time close friend on the check and hugging them to comfort them is not weird. And Topanga appeared to be totally okay with this.

He even kissed her cheek later on in the series and I just thought it was a cute friendship moment

Exactly he looks at topanga like a sister literally they were like his family he took it harder than they did during the breakup 😂

Every sitcom from this era had continuity eras. In the streaming era this happens less because people literally watch blocks of full seasons. In syndication, which this era of TV was written for, it was common for things like full relatives to show up and suddenly disappear and not get mentioned again. Because in syndication things are rarely watched in order so as long as things made sense within an episode, how much season 3 retconned season 1 if they thought it made a good story was pretty much ignored.

because they had to do anything to sell their story while shawn and angela effortlessly was better

@@TheDawnofVanlife you are not wrong and i think that limited a lot of shows of the time even though it was the nature of shows like this. its clear they were not desgined to be watched more then once(unless you caught a random episode on a rerun while channel surffing or something) and every episode in order.

The main problem with the errors is definitely S1 and S2

THIS!

to be fair, it's normal that she'd mature and grow out of some of her quirks she had as a young girl, but it would've been nice to see more of that old weirdness make a comeback occasionally or be meshed in with her a "new" personality in the later seasons.

@@leilanyx yeah but lets be real, they never allowed topanga to be the geek she was hence why they did the haircut episode to make her more "appealing"

@@leilanyx Yeah it was probably just a phase. Like how teens have an emo phase.

Lmao

I liked Shawn and Angela better

@@zo19967 Same same

Yes we get it you’re different

The fans probably think that their relationship is so ReAlIsTiC and BeLiEvAbLe and they'll agree with anything toxic happening in their relationship because apparently that's reality for them.

@@Alexandra-rb7ju The fans are stuck in a bubble of "when they were young it was so adorable" which, yeah, it was, but once you pop it and they get older it reeks of denial and backstories. Hell, even Shawn is tired of it! The fact that the show is still called Boy Meets World even after he graduates high school should be a major red flag but it's not - at that point the show should be Man-Boy Meets World because of how immature Cory still is.

Tbh it looked like he kissed her on the lips.

Lol

Hell yeah

Yes. Forget about that terrible fever dream that was GMW and how they used it to break up the couple.

Yess!

They did them dirty though, but yes.

yesss!!

in an alternate universe shawn and angela got married and so did jack and eric

i agree. however i liked them as individual characters

when angela was experiencing racism behind the scenes shawn was always there to defend her off camera shows how much they really was close

Agree 100%. Corey was just an annoying person. He was spoiled, and whiney and his problems with Topanga seemed so superficial. Shawn and Angela were much better characters overall and when they came together they were even better.

Wdym he was whiney. The only time he was really whiney was the few times when him and Topanga broken up with each other and oh my gosh I see it now 😢@@nitely2345

Man y’all are too much. Having two loving parents is enough. Nobody needs their parents to be perfect and as kids were just grateful our parents are trying and didn’t abandon us in an orphanage. Man this world is ass backwards and people are hella ungrateful and spoiled.

This is SUCHH a good point omg

​@nitely2345 Um what? You realize that parents don't have to be abusive to their children for their children to not have their parents issues. Don't have children if you legitimately believe that you can't project your own problems and issues onto your children or raise them improperly. Just saying "I love you" isn't the solution to making sure you raise mentally and physically healthy children.

@@nitely2345LMFAO if you think having love is good enough as parent you’re delusional its a lot more difficult than that your parents can love you and still be horrible at communicating u dolt

Right, because Mr Rider Strong would always show up on set and put a lot of these actors to shame

Yea honestly they had more stuff in common and they actually talked more.

@@Im_alivexx plus it's clear Lauren was at his level compared to Topanga that always seem like she was settling for Cory

I don't know what kinda chemistry you're talking about. She was such a sleazeball for what she did. Cory is too nice by not telling her to go away. He made it very clear he had a girlfriend and she still decided to kiss him. She was so selfish by only caring about her feelings for a boy she knew for half a day and all of one night. What they could've talked about, I don't know. But from what I saw, none of it was what you call "chemistry." She basically pulled an Ariana by getting with someone who's seemingly in a loving relationship. That's low and I have no respect for her. I don't care if she has feelings for him. When she met him, he was dating Topanga, yet she still chose to pursue him as if Topanga isn't important now since she inserted herself in the picture. If their progression was slow and they started off as just friends, I might accept it if they ever dated in the future, maybe after he and Topanga have a fight where they break up again and mutually decide to see other people since they're still young. But she made Cory a cheater by pushing her lips on his because she has feelings for him.. this is like liberal logic. Feelings matter more than facts. I despise it all and anyone who does it.

angela was so patient i envy her

I found them to be a more realistic couple. They both had attachment issues to work through.

It was only toxic when Shawn was drunk.

I also don’t really think they were toxic. I think they were children who had their own traumas. However, when alcohol wasn’t involved they actually spoke to each other. They communicated much better, they had no cheating scandals, and Shawn loved her enough to let her go and be with her father. He didn’t propose because he knew she missed her father so much, and he knew that she would do the same for him, which she did when she broke up with him, so he could fully experience college and college dating. They should’ve ended up together compared to the couple that had all these inconsistencies, and Topanga was always giving up things for Cory and Cory would always make the fact that they’re not having sex an entire personality trait. Oh, and the cheating…numerous times.

@@NyikoDoris exactly!!! shawn and angela definitely had their struggles but one thing for sure is that they *always* wanted the best for each other and wanted to look after one another, whether they were together or apart.

They definitely do...

@@nikkieg158 In that case, I’m glad it’s a ship you are able to enjoy. I know I have some that others don’t. But Corey’s yelling and cheating just gets under my skin. I don’t think he treats her well.

​@@carissashleyhe's forced to do something dumb in the episode for the sake of a lesson

Trina McGee’s comments in recent years (including her appearance on a Pod Meets World episode) adds a lot of behind the scenes context to what happened onscreen. Essentially, the producers did her dirty in the end, telling her the rest of the cast didn’t want her in the last episode (which wasn’t true), so she was written out. And there was also the racism and other types of toxicity she dealt with on-set, especially in regards to how she was somewhat pitted against the rest of them, especially Danielle.

@@cakt1991 Oh man that fucking suuuuuucks

@@cakt1991 ya only rider treated her right

@@cakt1991 That is extrememly disheartening and it just makes me want to watch the show less tbh. They ruined a whole character arc because of some stupid prejudice? Wow.

Exactly! Shawn also never made comments about needing to be sexual with Angela all the time as well, they actually had interests and she was at his level when Topanga was out of Cory's league in s4. She was more popular, smart, and wasn't "weird" anymore.

kasey?? you talking about kc undercover?

@@realestsienna Yes. But this whole time I just assumed her name was spelled Kasey, and it was only K.C. because those were her initials.

At least it worked out in the end

@@madnessarcade7447 Is going through a major shitstorm in a relationship really wroth it just to say "At least it worked out?"

@@Alexandra-rb7ju if you've found your forever partner then I'd say yes

@@marlene2805 this ^

Idk there’s been WAY more toxic couples. I feel like they kept them together to show kids like, it’s okay to grow apart and come back together cause not every on screen couple that’s meant to be is all sunshine and rainbows. They’re two people with a lot of differences trying to figure themselves out and their feelings for each other. Idk that was my take on it as a kid cause so many shows just keep couples together just for the fan service or just cause they want them to be but Cory and Topanga were more realistic cause they were so on and off and for valid reasons… but that’s how teenagers are. They’re irrational and emotional.

Lol kids act like that, also it’s a show so the changing how they met isn’t toxic. No relationship is perfect but I’ve known couples who have come back from why worse and are ridiculously healthy. Life’s not perfect and to expect relationships or ppl to be in relationships to be perfect is a fantasy.

you know what crazier? Shawn and Angela was always forced to break up when those two broke up just so S&A couldn't outshine.

@@BigBen7576 okay let the writers say they're suppose to be the "perfect couple" bruh. Cory cheating on her MULTIPLE times isn't mistakes but intentional. They're toxic and when Topanga gets her own success, Cory feels oversensitive or insecure about it.

FR

​@@softjytsuSMH

Yeah..he's always talking about when they were kids. What about now? What about the milestones they've reached since then? It's awesome to look back at how long you've been together, but thar can't be the only highlight in the relationship.

@@Sailor_Universe EXACTLY !!!

Three, but it made it all the more ridiculous when they had only a scene or two each Michael McKean does a great job playing narcissists btw. It was hard to watch the way he was speaking to his wife.

Not necessarily tho…

@@Kittendoe i would argue the statement is 99% true honestly

@@acemyname there are a ton of couples that could be broken down in a video without the show being bad 💀

@@Kittendoe it’s not a bad show .. I just feel like you all are 2000s kids and didn’t grow up with it

@@MrAjking808 I wasn’t born in the 2000s 💀

yup

Nope they are just the most perfect couple but some people don’t believe in true love, sorry about that!!

nah topanga should've walked away from Cory.

I disagree I would like for you to go more into depth on why you think the way you think. @@softjytsu

You get it unlike others. I would also like to add Topanga evolved and learned she doesn’t know everything….. life is a learning process

exactly

RIGHTTTT

it’s what the actor wanted

@@tanasiascott and it's what backfired on him

@@TeamStudNation1280 his character is one of the most loved, i think he’s fine 😭

@@tanasiascott not to the ones who felt like he played himself 😭😭

@@juli8288 Everyone mentions that, it’s the first thing anyone says about Eric that his character drastically changes. The actor has said that he wanted that change and preferred it, so I don’t mind and he’s also the funniest character on the show and probably one of the top three or five characters on the show to fans, so I think he’s doing alright.

JD and tuck on scubs is also very good on guy freindship.

Yes!!! Thank you for poitning this out!

The show is about Corey and his point of view..

@@anegron3285 Listen, I've grew up with this show and had been watching it since the late 90s. I'm well aware of what it's about. However, Corey is not the only focus of the series. He's just the main protagonist, and we can see that by how it's written.

Cory and Shawn >>>> Shawn and Angela >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory and Topanga

@@20000dino exactly!

I'm pretty sure most people agree though.

nah, we all agree 😂❤

Shawn and Angela were the best couple

It’s romantic 🫠

Same😂

Parents that do that kind of stuff always irritate me. It has to be because they feel inferior as parents, right? Like, "my kid has already found what they think to be love? Ridiculous!" Do they view it as a "oh, you want to be so grown up already because your childhood was bad?" kind of thing? Or a "my gut is telling me this won't end well and then I'll have to explain that my 18-20 year old son is already been divorced to my friends and coworkers, and that subconsciously makes me feel like a failure as an extension?" kind of deal. If I ever had kids, I'd let them learn by making mistakes more than I would lecture and give my two cents into their life. Especially at that age. That age is way worse than high school ever was, at least for me. It's so much more isolating because you're expected to know how to be an adult. I wouldn't want my kid to have the confusing narrative that at that age, I want them to be able to pay bills, chose their college major and life plan, buy their first car, move out and take care of themselves and then NOT trusting them to make an adult decision when it comes to their own love life. & to then to not help at all? Even if the marriage went sour, he'd still be your son and his ability to choose to get married has nothing to do with his ability, or more so, lack of ability, to know how to buy a house, or know how to fix his car, or financial help. That's so evil, honestly. Why even have kids? That's so isolating and damaging to the relationship you just spent 18 YEARS developing.

seriously. rule number one of eavesdropping or seeing something out of context: go to the source first. u kno what they say about assumptions lol