I hear ya loud and clear. 3 mos shy of 35 year union. It was never a marriage, which I consider more of a church ceremony. ALL these years later it's apparent, and the gaslighting over why he couldn't/wouldn't admit his lies. He never believed in the God we took our vows before. I have never felt so discarded or disregarded by another human. His traits, more than 5 of the 9 traits, maybe all? For his diagnosis. Above my pay grade and future knowledge of his cognitive decline and likely NPD. This is something that requires LEGAL ACTION FOR PROTECTION, A RESTRAINING ORDER? HARD TO enforce those. Although no kids, he has the dog we trained together to react to my 5 auto immune disorders disabilities and PTSD (he's now caused it to become complex c-ptsd) Sure, I'm divorcing him, but after he botched 6 years of therapy by talking to the psych behind my back, contradictory to all I was saying. I was the crazy, he was sane. According to his documents. While I did not sign a HIPAA release, it did not stop the Dr from hearing what he had to say about anything that took place, negatively. It was a 6 year nightmare that has taken a few more years getting the pieces back in order!.

Yes. It took me years to reset my thought, my behaviors, my life post narcissistic relationship. It’s hard to believe there is a type of people that just enjoy damaging other people

The recovery can take years. I'm still dealing with the damage after 40 years of having a life altering emotional crisis. Power to you.

may be you're just crap

@@tlmorris6399 good that you did not contact her. Narcissistic to me is beyond a mental health issue. Nothing you can do, no empathy, no love, no care, no couple therapy, nothing is enough to resolve her problems

And it's been fun watching Dr G get better and better.

This story was asking for it 🤣🤣🤣

Here for this comment

Lol he should use that as a slogan. Love this comment ❤️

Well said! I second this

Exactly. Once a narcissist always a narcissist. 🤔❤🇺🇸

Held accountable by a normal person's standards? Never. Since they are in a perpetual state of denial and living the lie, they never, ever admit wrongdoing and therefore, are never accountable for the evil they do.

Too bad she wasn't held legally responsible for any of her antics. The police should have taken this problem a lot more seriously.

@@sandra2631 Exactly! Always right, never the problem, causing mayhem in their wake. So destructive.

@@sandra2631 People are [all] narcissistic on some level. Given the right [or rather, more like 'inappropriate'] circumstances, instances, happenstances, whatever, you'd be "narcissistic". It's when it is 'clinical' as in, it can classified as a disorder, that 'narcissism' takes on these "more than negative" traits [that is, not only pathological, but dangerous to themselves or society, by way of bodily harm].

Jury nullification is the most powerful tool jury members have, but few know about it

Good msg to send!

I’d like to give about 10K thumbs ups. I had listened to this case on a pod cast. Damn near wrecked my car when I heard hat she had been banned from living with any member of her family. That told the world everything they needed to know. I so appreciated the jury not convincing him.

How exactly did they send the message that shooting someone "isn't acceptable"?

@@EricFullwood - personally, I didn’t see that as the message, but I really appreciated him not going to jail, even if it was not “just”.

You are so right about this. In my experience, it took years to trust anyone afterwards. I didn't even trust myself to not fall into that trap again! It takes something away from you, in a way. It's difficult to find the right word for it. Trust, innocence, gun shy? Maybe all of these. 🙄

He didn't have the right to kill them or put her in a coma. they should have been held accountable for what they did but it's never okay to respond like that. She took two gunshots and was in life threatening critical condition and told she almost died and never woke up. You can't do that to someone even if they harass you

She's still tormenting him on every social media outlet she can find!

He's a volunteer, not a victim, he's found one worse by now.

Hopefully someone that will finish the job next time.

@@smartasawhip7042 he can't read it right now, but I'm sure his legal team is getting it all for the civil trial.

@@smartasawhip7042 she DOES not stop 🛑 she continuously brags about herself, gloats that Michael is suffering, and starts trouble with everyone

I saw some of the trial and she was horrible and so is her dad and boyfriend.

@@savetrump9120 they're pure evil. Sick.

I was a little confused about how much she was doing all this alone- seems like case for self defense becomes much stronger if she really wasn't

Yes and the boyfriend was so puffed up.

He was suddenly not afraid of anything as soon as the trial ended lol the insanity trick almost never works, he had to throw a good façade to get away with it

Even reporting falsely to Child Protection Services is a crime.

@@lynnehuff9659 She put it through Safe Sport to avoid that issue.

@@jomo14 Oh thanks. I had to look that up.

It's a rich white woman saying she's a victim. We tend to side with women in these cases. She comes across another amber heard.

Getting shot twice seems like a good punishment IMHO 🤷‍♀️ never been shot but must be painful. Lots of manipulative people aren't as crazy or overt but never see any kind of prison despite similar behaviors.

LOL! Oh yeah! 'phew' alright. I particularly liked how you shut down the gas supply... effectively 'un-gaslighting' her.

So, you turned off the gas so that she could not gaslight you anymore'? What a great idea!

@@skepticusmaximus184 Clever, right?

@@kathyglass2922 It's a masterful art, dealing with narcies'.

@@skepticusmaximus184 It is at that. Only the strong of heart and quick witted can navigate their storm.

This happens a lot in my country. We hire a bunch of thugs. Wait for the family to leave the house. Break in. Dump all their shit on the road and then change the lock. Easy-peasy.

My God. That’s just dreadful

Gosh, your poor dad. I hope he's okay? Not just physically, but mentally.

@@Naptosis he needed surgeries & passed away shortly afterward from suicide caused by the stress of the ordeal. Unbelievably, my mother sold the property in installments to the adult son of the man who attacked my father. That family destroyed my father & got the property in the end.

@@Spindrifts I'm so sorry. Your poor father. How were you after all this? It must have been literally maddening for you. I cannot imagine how you just have felt; betrayed, I guess.

Or both!

Like pissing on someone's foot but insisting it's raining. Or being a politician who was mentored by a klu Klux klansman but calling 74 million Americans "white" "supremacists" .

She didn't jump to calling herself a victim when he shot her in the head and put her in a coma. Of course that will go to trial. He knew what he was doing, he put on a show of having gone mad at the trial but it quickly went away once he was acquitted. she emotionally tormented him but she didn't deserve to be shot

Hey, lovely! ❤Good point. I think she definitely pushed this man way too far. Maybe he shot her in self defense or out of sheer exhaustion and mental distress. Either way, he probably never would have shot anyone, ever, had he not met this unstable horse dancer. Horse dancer! I laughed every time Dr.G said that! 🤣 Loved all the horse jokes, too. How are you today? 🥰 I read about your non-pg status. Are you OK with that? You know I just wish you the best of everything. You deserve it. You are the best! ~love & many hugs to you, Noah and your family~ ❤💙💛💚☘️☘️ 🌷🌷⚘️⚘️🌹🌹💐💐🌻🌻

It's a good feeling to know sometimes justice is served. ✌️

Hello CT! Can you read my other comment in here? It's the first one above 'anne we the north'' s comment. If not, it disappeared or no one can see my comments. Let me know, lovely. 🥺

He didn't have the right to kill them or put her in a coma. He knew what he was doing, he put on a show of having gone mad at the trial but it quickly went away once he was acquitted. She deserved to be held accountable for her mental and emotional abuse but not be shot

I don't see the point.

I love it! So much so, I wanna rewatch and count how many! Lol, just for s**ts and giggles! And for the person that commented "I don't get it" under your comment... then you don't get Dr. Grande so you may just want to consider kickin' rocks. I am just speculating and that is my opinion.

Yeah, I was a little surprised at his closed minded comments about dressage and riding It’s the hardest equestrian sport IMO. We trot a lot and that’s basically a squat every two seconds depending on our speed. You have to be athletic to ride. You need lots of endurance as well because it’s straight cardio for an hour lesson. It also takes leg strength and core strength to make it look easy. It burns 410 calories in an hour. Just like other sport. Remember how sore you were after your first few lessons? Every muscle was pulled. Your legs felt like spaghetti. I hate when people make ignorant comments about riding and dressage. He could have taken a few minutes to research it a bit. Google is your friend Dr. Grande.

Shame is not a quality everyone possesses.

@@Badtown1988 That's a shame.

I believe, after living through a separation, no plans to return, it just took me this much time to gather the strength in the (and in him the timing had to be in his "best interests?" Whatever that means. As much as I knew, his ment as lly abusive treatment would never stop, the day I filed all the paperwork/I formation to the law team I hired. I cried despite knowing staying would turn more and more harmful amid the toxic environment we form, it's scary when he sets himself up for rage. If I am antagonizing him, in the very beginning I did, relentlessly, I was so angry for destroying our 35 year marriage, in just 3 months. RIGHT mindset to continue forward is crucial. As we evolve through this, his toddler good is shining bright. It's the reversal of mindset that has turned devious, not harmful per sé, but when he hides something on me, I have no choice but to look for it. Up to 6 hours usually at night time when things are discovered. I shut him down when he starts, it is my only way of survival through this. One final signature and I go off HIS grid

Agree. There is something very sick in their heads that they have to ruin people who have different opinions. My ex was similar to this, pushing boundaries and never stop. This woman really deserves what happened. Hopefully she learnt from this

@@Thang4321 NOPE, they don't learn, that's why they are the way they are...no treatment for narcissists - & why would they "there's nothing wrong with them...everyone else is the problem". She just has fuel for pity & manipulation of her next victim/s.

She didn't jump to calling herself a victim when he shot her and put her in a coma. Of course that will go to trial. He didn't have the right to shoot her

@@brunettelinds2811 That's your opinion. The jury didn't agree with you. People commenting on this thread do not agree with you. Your assessment is wrong.

Yessssss!!

brilliant!!!

Exactly! Dressage is like a total work out. Lots of isometrics and lower body movements. It may look like you aren’t working but you are!

Posting the trot is basically doing squats but the ground is moving and you fall from 5' if you screw it up, lol

I teach beginner riding lessons, and after people get the initial instruction and I have them start walking the horse around on their own, I usually ask them: "so what do you think, is the horse doing all the work?" The answer is usually an emphatic "no!". Riding horses takes core strength, balance, coordination, and the ability to regulate your own energy and emotions to help communicate with the horse. It's equal parts gratifying, exhilerating, and terrifying sometimes!

Seriously. A bit disappointed in his take on it

Right. And horses don’t just dance on their own. 😅 It takes incredible training for horses and rider and to be able to communicate with each other with just a sound or a touch/movement.

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She should be thanking Michael for not finishing her off. If it was someone else, she'd get a 9mm facelift.

Hi Dr. Grande. He was protecting himself from psychonarc. Women like her only care about their own personal life. They have no empathy or self control of any kind other than feeling superior to everyone else. God handles people like her. He sends them to hell. I hope the best for her future targets of abuse that they get far away from her toxic witch personality. Peace Dr. Grande & have a pleasant evening. Great analysis as well, love, Janine Smiley🙂😀😍😎😉🆒️💯❗❕🙏

@@janinemccartha1811 oh she is horrible. When she finds someone she can victimize she stops at nothing. She says and does the most disgusting things. Lauren is NO VICTIM, she never will be. She is a narcissist, she is just TOXIC to no end

Ok sure they say that but they’re victims of psychological abuse so they think they’re going through hell but how the hell do they know it’s worse than physical abuse if they’re not victims of physical abuse? Of course someone will think the abuse they’ve endured is horrible. You are actually a pretty shitty person honestly for sitting there and claiming victims of physical abuse that can kill them is less serious than being verbally abused Your comment literally has not benefit or helps no one all it does is make your low level abuse seem worse than it was. You should be embarrassed and stop being such a narcissist victim with a superiority complex and have some empathy and care doe others

@@janinemccartha1811 She's immature and her intent was to pester and annoy. She didn't commit the other heinous crimes on here. She didn't do it because she felt superior, he was an asshole to her when she moved there and paid $5k a month to live there and take lessons. he cast her off to other trainers once he decided she didn't have the talent or capability. that's not what a teacher does. He let her there and she wouldn't leave because she still wanted to board her horses but the conflict never would have started had he carried through with his end of the deal, how hard is that really for $5k a month? She's not a heinous criminal and didn't deserve to be shot

Awesome bit of insight on history. Thanks

Dr Grande “the horses do all the work” .. if it’s soo easy why don’t you show us all how it’s done! 😂😂are you seriously too pretentious and ignorant to try to gain a bit of knowledge about a bona fide Olympic sport, that’s been a Olympic sport for over a century..?? As if equestrians would be recognized and celebrated as elite athletes (like anyone participating in any other Olympic discipline..) if they were not actually fully deserving of such..? I really want to watch/like your videos because I appreciate the subject matter you cover but you are such a total douche I can’t bring myself to listen to you

That’s cool AF

Yeah, I forget to breathe sometimes, I think that's my big problem.

Exactly. Never have they been helpful to me but they love to harass homeless people

Lauren was a rich white woman who pretended to be the victim. Look how people believed (and still believe) amber heard.

Cops are bound by a shitty legal system, not sure what they could have done, or what you would have preferred? If they go by the book then nothing helpful in the field is produced, they go off the book and people scream "ABUSE OF POWER", not sure if someone who hates cops can be convinced of anything other than "cops bad". Lauren wasn't doing anything illegal in front of them and it was all pretty much just "he said she said" verbal abuse at the point for when they showed up, so it's obviously a common run in for the police where nothing really can be produced legally.

As someone who has never heard of the sport, I'm fascinated!

I've seen it when i watched the Olympics. It looks neat, but do the horses enjoy it, or is it hard on the horse? If the horse enjoys it, cool!

@@kimberlygabaldon3260 Trainedcarefully and thoughtfully I think a lot of them do enjoy it - mine does - totally likes to show off his fancy moves if anyone is watching

Great description of the SPORT .

@@kimberlygabaldon3260 The most important part of any type of equestrian endeavor for me is the actual relationship/ emotional connection between myself and the horse. I have always gone out of my way to show kindness, affection, respect, deep gratitude, and love to them. To answer your question, yes, they do seem to enjoy it. If they didn't, I couldn't enjoy it either.

He called cops 3 times. Police should've been able to help Michael get her off of his property for good.

@@northerngirl1637 The laws about such situations, are different in every state. For instance, in Maine, it's nearly impossible to make someone leave your home through legal means, even if they started off as an overnight visitor; the law refuses to get involved. I've no idea what NJ laws are, but let this be a warning to all good-hearted people. No Good deed goes unpunished.

It looks like he was beaten up and he was confronting a man and a she-beast, so I would've thought of that if I were a juror. If she'd been "shot in the heart", she'd have been unable to inform the dispatcher over the phone, due to death.

@@chachadodds5860 Yes, the laws are very similar in NJ. It's extremely difficult to evict someone staying with you OR renting an apartment from you. It can take a year or more. I don't think this man even started a legal eviction against them, though, in this case. He should have.

@@LDiamondz My gosh. In my state, if a person is residing in your primary dwelling -- for example, in a house divided into two apartments and you occupy one of them -- it is very easy to evict that person. Most of the major legal protections simply don't apply in that case. If the landlord owns an apartment building as an investment and does not live there, or if he has more than a certain number of units (say 8 or 10) and lives in one of them, then the various tenants' rights ordinances and statutes apply. Eviction can still take place within three to six months, at most. It almost never takes a year to evict anyone who has breached their lease. There would have to be some special circumstance to prevent it. If someone can stay with you after you've asked them to leave your own residence, then how do you own your residence? You don't.

Yes, Ms.Kari...YES!!! I wholeheartedly agree!!! What an evil and vile woman!!! She wanted war...and she got "shot" in battle. I felt compassion for Michael...he was the victim!!!

Myron May and mind control.. Targeted individuals are gaslighted.. We are misdiagnosed and online it's says there's no such thing as voice to skull or illegal microchipping or microwave auditory effect.. that is gaslighting!!.. or it's just straight up medical negligence and professional negligence on behalf of our law enforcement...

He feels the same. When someone taunts you, refuse to leave and you call 911 twice and they do nothing about it, than it's on them.

Betty Broderick same thing happened to her.

@@princesstiarra8071 That's comparing apples and potatoes. Her ex husband didn't refuse to move out of HER house, and make it necessary for her to move out. She didn't fear for her life either. He left her for another woman, and that is what caused her to lose her mind. She was a woman scorn and completely obsessed with it. Her kids couldn't make her stop raging and screaming profanities to and about their father, no matter how much they cried and begged her. Her rage was more important to her than the wellbeing of her own children. She later blamed HIM for the parental alienation she suffered by acting the way SHE did in the presence of her kids. The fact of the Broderick case is that she snuck into her ex husband's home and killed him and his wife in their sleep. That is not someone who has been pushed into a situation where she lost her mind in the heat and threat of the moment. That is what people do when they want revenge at any cost, even if they have to destroy their own lives and irreparably hurt their own children to get it. Those people are usually narcissists. Betty's behavior, and the way she talked both during and after her trial, had ALL the signs of a narcissism. Narcissism is a permanent personality disorder, not a temporary moment of insanity. I doubt that wanted out of the marriage because Betty was such a reasonable and easy person to deal with. I think falling in love with someone else gave him the courage and support he needed to do what he had wanted to do for a long time.

She didn't leave once she was there because she still wanted to board her horses but she paid $5k a month to live in the upstairs apartment, board her horses, and get lessons- even when she stopped getting him because he demoted her to other trainers when he decided she didn't have the talent or capability. Was that so hard of him to give her lessons being paid $5k a month?

She only received 18 months, I wonder how much of that will end up being reduced with good behavior. ☹

Why didn't she just leave? If she isn't happy there? Of course she could have been provoked too. Someone triangulating.. The puns.. omg

There was no need to shoot this lady. That is why he is in jail. There was no need to take a gun. Why didn't he cal the Sheriff to Serve a Quit? I don't know either. But this is fishy and it appears someone provoked both of them. Maybe someone gave gossip to this lady that Michael was a sex offender or something, and were using her to create drama.

That’s exactly what narcissistic personalities do … they live to watch the destruction they wreak with a perverse sadistic satisfaction. It’s a form of torture. One they enjoy and will not leave despite acting like they’re unhappy. Which they are but zero insight or empathy into how they ruin everything.

Oh yes the amount of animal abuse is def off the charts! Would love to abuse the ones who do it!!! Eye for an eye!

Yes, horse/dressage ppl are crazy, I know from experience.

If you think about the section of people who can afford to do this type of horse riding, they come from a world mostly without a lot of real work but with a whole bunch of unearned privilege.

Quite the allegation. Can you support it?

😂😂😂😂. I think he can handle it!

I've seen her posting in other videos trying her best to defend her crazy self, lol. I'm glad she didn't die. I hope she sees the thousands of comments defending Michael and not her.

Perfect! Very quick and witty, Erica! I love it!

Oh I saw the 48hr Documentary and they painted her just right. I hated the both of those monsters. I literally cheered at the end. Go ahead and sue you beotch, I bet it’ll cost you. Bless you Michael.

I saw the 48 hrs and perceived her to be a monster

I laughed so hard man. I don't even know anything about New Jersey, but the way he said it 💀

@@melgonz.6962 Lol. I thought it was funny too! Even though I lived in NYC for 5 years, for some reason I never explored New Jersey. Now I wish I had:-) A lot of New Yorker's seem to love Don Pepino's pizza sauce made in New Jersey. It's not bad. (available on Amazon) There is a freshness to the tomatoes but I still prefer to make my own Italian sauces:-) So at least New Jersey can claim fame to Don Pepino's. Lol

I have a severe case of peripheral neuropathy and live in tremendous pain every day. If you ever need to talk to someone that understands what you are going through, please reach out.

I am listening from South Africa. Also have very bad Fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. Dr. Grande's videos is one of the things that keeps me going when I can't go anywhere. And if I have a Cortisol storm and I am so anxious (for no reason at all), I will listen to any of the older videos, and Dr. Grande's voice is so soothing that it calms me down. Thank you so much Dr. Grande!

She was a squatter, same as her boyfriend, both of them are free loaders.

Weird. When I watched 48 hours, I felt they sufficiently conveyed that she had driven him nuts. I think the show missed a lot from both sides. I’m hoping that one of the KZfaq creators will cover it more in depth

I think after the first 5 or so puns he was just beating a dead horse. 😁 I'm always here for the puns though.

Since you posted this, someone has had to deal with her BS for one year.

Bingo!!!

But we can say LOTS of people are "pushed beyond reason." If someone's spouse cheats on them they may feel like they were "pushed beyond reason" and shoot them. Should they be acquitted? If someone says something about my mom or child that I don't like can I feel "pushed beyond reason " and shoot them? The woman was an exhausting demon, but he must still take responsibility and suffer the consequences for his actions.

If you have no choice, you take in renters to avoid foreclosure. My ex was abusive. I got him out. Roommates have all been great and allow me to keep a house for my kids. You must screen and do background checks. I rent to those on the healing arts or public servants. Good hearted.

@@groominator-magneticequato7195 ~I'm not talking about situations such as the one you were in. Im referring to roommates like these people chose.

Nah, she's suffering more reading all these comments supporting Michael and not her. I guarantee it's absolutely destroying her deep down, knowing she lost and he won. Even though she would never admit it, lol 😆

You're right. He never filed for eviction, though. He should have done that as soon as things started going wrong. If he did, it might have taken years anyway, as there was no restraining order. He should have gotten one of those, too.

Yes and she's beautiful and rich .....😳 Nearly unstoppable!! Oh and daddy is an attorney 😱

@@charliechurch5004 hey, I am the daughter of an attorney. Her dad seems like the type that is why lawyers are ridiculed. Did Dr Grande say her dad brought about a lawsuit against Mr. Barisone? The family seems like real wieners

Why should they be uncommon? Cases of white women accusing men of color unsubstantiatedly are caught on camera. So far, there has not been a lot of research interest in women's sexism.

They are more common than what we like to think

At least not more common than men who do the same, if not worse.

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Yes!!