Can I Make my Wok Slicker than a Nonstick Pan ?

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Alex

Alex

5 жыл бұрын

How to season a pan using science (and elbow grease). Get 2 Months of Skillshare Premium For Free : skl.sh/frenchguycooking6
Cast Iron or Carbon steel need to be seasoned (treated) before being used. Seasoning is a dry and glass-hard coating which makes pan nonstick and rust resistant using Oil Polymerisation. At very high temperatures, certain oils can dry, harden and bond to the metal of your pan.
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@itsdlc3684
@itsdlc3684 5 жыл бұрын
Little bit of vinegar, salt, and elbow grease 4 seconds later: *using a automatic scrubbing device*
@EDoyl
@EDoyl 5 жыл бұрын
The best elbow grease is the kind that comes out of 18V batteries
@arthurr8670
@arthurr8670 5 жыл бұрын
Even better is the kind with an angle grinder behind it
@engiidville
@engiidville 5 жыл бұрын
@@EDoyl hahaha
@lorrie2878
@lorrie2878 5 жыл бұрын
I have lost track of what we are talking about. Sweating...
@elimager8402
@elimager8402 5 жыл бұрын
I work in a restaurant. We have to mix it with flour too for the copper pans. Just spent 4 hours polishing pans by hand today...
@archaray
@archaray 5 жыл бұрын
You could've done a "100 layers of wok seasoning" video
@quaron9410
@quaron9410 5 жыл бұрын
200h of baking seems legit
@phantombloodsoul
@phantombloodsoul 5 жыл бұрын
u do know that would take 8 straight days and 3 hr and 3 mins to do right
@Jaydenwhip
@Jaydenwhip 5 жыл бұрын
phantombloodsoul worth it
@peixearrombado
@peixearrombado 5 жыл бұрын
*S T O N K S*
@jamesarthur6962
@jamesarthur6962 5 жыл бұрын
Don't get him started otherwise we won't see another VLOG for a month PLEASE.
@marciodelbarco93
@marciodelbarco93 4 жыл бұрын
"There is no chemichal, just like a very hard polymerized surface" - Chemestry: Am I a joke to you?
@Cl0udEater
@Cl0udEater 4 жыл бұрын
😂 I know, I was like 'Hol up!?'
@smashy152
@smashy152 4 жыл бұрын
No chemicals that can cause birth defects*
@BloodSprite-tan
@BloodSprite-tan 4 жыл бұрын
it's referring to the fact they aren't using an artificial man made chemical, like Polytetrafluoroethylene aka Teflon. you wouldn't call soybean oil a chemical
@zer0774
@zer0774 4 жыл бұрын
Dude spell check
@LordxJoe
@LordxJoe 4 жыл бұрын
*Jazz Music Stops*
@MikaelEriksen
@MikaelEriksen 6 ай бұрын
Hello Alex. You need to revisit this one. Flax oil is really bad for seasoning. I’ve tried and failed with it, and I’m sure you’ve noticed as well that it flakes off very easily. Refined grapeseed oil is what you want. Refined because it’s a pure oil with fibrous materials removed (fiber burn and cause carbon build up which causes sticking). Grapeseed because it has a high smoke point and a lot of polyunsaturated fat (which polymerizes better than other fats). You also want to bake it below the smoke point. I usually go 200° C for one hour. Check out “Cook culture” and the videos they’ve done on seasonings. The advice I gave you over comes from a phd in polymer sciences.
@LARCN
@LARCN 3 ай бұрын
NO SMOKE NEEDED or My beginners guide to Carbon Steel stovetop seasoning ?
@hobbes3
@hobbes3 25 күн бұрын
Alex listening to this one random lady with no scientific background or testing is cringe. No one else has ever recommended a low smoke point oil like flaxseed, yet this lady is some revolutionary oil expert.
@tideypods4808
@tideypods4808 4 жыл бұрын
After 11 minutes of watching this i finally realized that i have no idea what he's talking about and don't know what I'm doing here
@markdugan7782
@markdugan7782 4 жыл бұрын
after initially seasoning a carbon steel wok the next steps are just to use it often to stir fry and clean it without soap, just hot water. oil the wok lightly before storing it.
@progamer1o5
@progamer1o5 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like you lost... Da Wae
@brin57
@brin57 4 жыл бұрын
@@markdugan7782 Boom!! I've never seen someone waste so much time seasoning a wok.
@PovlKvols
@PovlKvols 4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch it from the start? ;D
@DvLnDsGyZ
@DvLnDsGyZ 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know either but I'm pretty sure he said fuck you at one point towards the end and I like him already.
@solss9010
@solss9010 5 жыл бұрын
I need to hear you say “one hour later”
@FixerUK
@FixerUK 5 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes
@mhhndeable
@mhhndeable 4 жыл бұрын
Spongebob In case anyone wonder what he means
@woddow
@woddow 4 жыл бұрын
Profile picture checks out
@andrewhernandez1998
@andrewhernandez1998 4 жыл бұрын
Who else said it in the sponge bob voice
@laughterman805
@laughterman805 4 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@Lasseh2
@Lasseh2 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so what I learned after 1 year with my carbon skillet! 1. Opposite to the dear lady's advice, you want to use an oil with a high smokepoint. With a low smokepoint oil, after a few rounds of cooking, your perfect seasoning will most likely start to flake & fall off. I use peanut oil, widely used in asian kitchens for seasoning woks, and seasoning is super durable, just keeps getting better and better over time. 2. No point in obsessing over the perfect seasoning, getting a clean black finish or whatever. A deep black finish of seasoning will not make the pan perform better in any way. Once you start using the pan and actually cook with it, it will look like shit anyways, and thats okay! Just keep cooking, that will make you and your pan happy! Thanks for your video!
@GoCoyote
@GoCoyote Жыл бұрын
I agree, and avocado oil is my new favorite for seasoning, as it has a higher burn temp and more neutral flavor than peanut oil.
@greggarcia7737
@greggarcia7737 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I was getting pissed that my seasoning kept flaking off or I was scratching the seasoning off, this is the best advice yet, Thanks!!!
@OvidiuPacuraru
@OvidiuPacuraru Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was wondering about the ideal temperature, seeing that the article Alex linked says 500F = 260C but when I tried seasoning a wok and a cast iron pan I always managed to burn the coating right off as I was busy seasoning so seeing your reply, that makes sense. Just use an oil with a higher smoke point.
@davidnettleton3375
@davidnettleton3375 Жыл бұрын
Would sesame oil be good? Smoke point is 410F.
@sunspot42
@sunspot42 Жыл бұрын
@@davidnettleton3375 It's not the smoke point so much as how much other gunk is dissolved in the oil. Some oils are "gunky". I seasoned my first carbon steel wok with olive oil and that was a HUGE mistake. It was always "gunky" because of all the other compounds dissolved in olive oil and the chemical nature of the monounsaturated olive oil itself. I'd recommend refined walnut oil for seasoning carbon steel. It has a reasonably high smoke point but that's not what makes it good for seasoning. Walnut oil is a "drying" oil - artists have used it in their oil paints for hundreds of years because it's not gunky when it dries - it dries to a hard, glassy finish. Likewise, when you polymerize it in a carbon steel pan, it achieves and maintains a glassy, dry finish. Avocado oil also seems to work pretty well. I know corn oil gets used in Asia some, but I find it's somewhat gunky as well and I wouldn't use it. Refined peanut oil is popular in China and I suspect it would work well. Nothing is better for frying breaded chicken than peanut oil. Although walnut and avocado oils are pretty expensive, keep in mind you only have to use a miniscule amount to season even a large pan or wok. And they're great for other things. I love walnut oil in salad dressings - it has a great mouth feel, similar to olive oil but lighter. I made homemade mayo from it as well, which was delicious. I've even used it when making pesto. Avocado oil I use in my air fryer. I keep some loaded in a spray bottle. It's stable up to extremely high temperatures, so it doesn't get baked onto the nonstick surfaces inside the air fryer or get sticky and gummy. And it's great on breaded stuff, like air-fryer chicken - very light, helps things crisp up, never tastes burnt.
@aesaehttr
@aesaehttr 4 жыл бұрын
Says: "elbow grease" *Pulls out a power drill
@navindavoodi6065
@navindavoodi6065 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@XMorbidReignX
@XMorbidReignX 3 жыл бұрын
He's showing the behind the scenes of the culinary industry; Work smarter, not harder.
@darksydesamy
@darksydesamy 5 жыл бұрын
French guy seasoning a wok. Yes please.
@RileyDao
@RileyDao 5 жыл бұрын
Darksydesamy French guy seasoning a wok to make barbecue stir fry in
@Sphagetti__
@Sphagetti__ 5 жыл бұрын
I think it now should be called "The Woque"
@GnarlyOatmeal
@GnarlyOatmeal 5 жыл бұрын
'Le' woque.
@user-ky2ug2wd9j
@user-ky2ug2wd9j 4 жыл бұрын
more like american faking a french accent seasoning a wok lol
@Sphagetti__
@Sphagetti__ 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ky2ug2wd9j He is really french though, so no
@dragoncracker
@dragoncracker 5 жыл бұрын
I came upon Sheryl's Article years ago, and my my pans have loved me ever since
@HululusLabs
@HululusLabs 4 жыл бұрын
That is the coolest oven timer I've ever seen
@FfejTball
@FfejTball 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Yes! I was like, wtf, how is this not the standard for timers?!
@TejasRichard
@TejasRichard 3 жыл бұрын
I started using a couple of carbon steel pans, including a large wok, about a year ago. I loved them so much, that I eventually replaced all of my fry pans, including the teflon pan I used for scrambled eggs, with carbon steel. The matfer borgeat I use daily is amazing! I seasoned it using the potato peel method (which is what matfer recommends), and it is as slick as any nonstick. I just used it this morning to make a spanish tortilla and no spatula was required, at all, to get the omlette from the pan! Carbon Steel: it's amazing!
@PenZon
@PenZon 5 жыл бұрын
Teflon pans come and go and wear out, but maintained cast iron is nigh indestructible.
@TimLF
@TimLF 5 жыл бұрын
Stainless steel is much more robust than cast iron (which will snap in half if you throw cold food on it while hot). Woks are made from steel AFAIK.
@andreahighsides7756
@andreahighsides7756 5 жыл бұрын
PenZon and that teflon that wore off ends up in your body and in the water supply. It never goes away
@nope6344
@nope6344 5 жыл бұрын
Wok are made of steel though
@konicu
@konicu 5 жыл бұрын
@@nope6344 there are others made of cast iron too.
@shrikesavadithya6683
@shrikesavadithya6683 5 жыл бұрын
@@andreahighsides7756 the research has been done and I suggest you look into it but Teflon bonds are some of the strongest in the intramolecular region. The studies prove Teflon is not carcinogenic or toxic in any way. All peer reviewed and very well investigated. Also iron in haemin form can cause all manners of problems. Chubby emu on KZfaq ( doctor , toxicology ) has a video showing how the iron in your haemoglobin can cause severe problems. Maybe biochemistry isn't as simple as people think it is.
@rubbergum
@rubbergum 5 жыл бұрын
I tried it several month ago with my iron pan. Now I know how to stop an oil fire...
@Ullimately
@Ullimately 4 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask... "am I using too much oil?" then YES, you are using too much oil.
@rubbergum
@rubbergum 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ullimately Way too much. Lesson learned. But it is my best pan to date. :)
@Ullimately
@Ullimately 4 жыл бұрын
@@rubbergum The best oils are hemp seed oil and linseed oil. you should heat up your pan to 250 degrees C or about 500 degrees F. These oils polymerise the best. The next best oil is Canola oil.
@10kdrifterz63
@10kdrifterz63 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say I really appreciate it when a KZfaqr has an indicator of how long the sponsor section is.
@shawnhampton8503
@shawnhampton8503 3 жыл бұрын
Your technique is flawless. I work for company that sells carbon steel pans and woks. This is perfect. Exactly what I tell my customers who have trouble with seasoning....which is very many of them. Salut!
@markog1999
@markog1999 5 жыл бұрын
You can't repair the surface of a Teflon pan, you can fix up any damage with oil seasoning
@cybersfn7678
@cybersfn7678 5 жыл бұрын
3:50 when your accent gives out 😂
@scrumpymanjack
@scrumpymanjack 4 жыл бұрын
So true.
@jasonyoung6420
@jasonyoung6420 4 жыл бұрын
it's because there is no butter in this video
@G3NK5T42
@G3NK5T42 4 жыл бұрын
Great, I'm not the only one who noticed it!
@ethank5681
@ethank5681 4 жыл бұрын
It’s because he’s actually American LOL
@DT--kt3vj
@DT--kt3vj 4 жыл бұрын
Ethan K he isn't?
@brianharder7714
@brianharder7714 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched lots of videos about seasoning steel pans and this one with a slightly manic French dude is my favorite.
@XlunacyinblackX
@XlunacyinblackX 3 жыл бұрын
I've been cooking for a while now. And always wanted to know what a seasoned pan even meant and I stumbled on it by accident. Thank you Alex!
@PovlKvols
@PovlKvols 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alex, you're an inspiration for me. I've used Tyflon for years, but I just bought two new De Buyer steel frying pans, and they're surprisingly good after I seasoned them. They require a bit more skill and proper heating, but I'm really happy with them so far. Thank you!
@policem8732
@policem8732 5 жыл бұрын
Alex you have a garden? You should make a series where you grow herbs.
@tuber084
@tuber084 5 жыл бұрын
and vegetable of course !
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina 5 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the peppers and fruit trees!
@SkkyJuse
@SkkyJuse 5 жыл бұрын
I too was so surprised since it appears that he lives, or at the least the studio, is in the middle of Paris....and he’s never showed out there.
@GnarlyOatmeal
@GnarlyOatmeal 5 жыл бұрын
"garden" is European for "yard"... And, it's probably not his to rip up, since he rents Le Studio.
@AlvinPradanaSusanto
@AlvinPradanaSusanto 4 жыл бұрын
Do the egg test without using oil nor any kind of utensil while cooking to truly test the nonsticking factor. if the egg slides well, then it passes the test.
@jaydencruz336
@jaydencruz336 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@countryfella94
@countryfella94 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaydencruz336 you mean eggactly
@felixvogel4729
@felixvogel4729 4 жыл бұрын
Eggxactly
@jacoblieverse5279
@jacoblieverse5279 4 жыл бұрын
On low heat it might work, but on high heat like he did it would stick to the coating and removing the egg breaks that coating. The same video could be made with a cast iron skillet which is better for baking eggs because the thick steel disperses heat more evenly. This video however teaches people how to maintain a wok or cast iron skillet for a lifetime through seasoning to make it close to nonstick. Nonstick pans are far superior because they are coated with teflon instead of linseed. Which is far slippier but also impossible to replace or apply yourself. Not even mentioning they also require seasoning to last a lifetime (which no one does). Without oil or butter a standard nonstick might last a year to become waste. A proper seasoned steel or iron pan could last several lifetimes if taken proper care for.
@jesmondo5785
@jesmondo5785 4 жыл бұрын
Looks good enough to me. When do you fry something without fat?
@TheTomBevis
@TheTomBevis 3 жыл бұрын
I've had many cast-iron pans that were more non-stick than teflon. I recently got a fine wok, as a Christmas gift, and seasoned it according to directions. It's not quite non-stick, yet, but it's getting better as I use it.
@BrutishYetDelightful
@BrutishYetDelightful 2 жыл бұрын
I have a monstrous Lodge cast-iron wok. It weighs about 14 pounds and is a non-stick stirfrying MACHINE. I can fry an egg over-easy in it with no problem. I wish I could get a teflon skillet anywhere NEAR this awesome.
@fnapoli
@fnapoli 4 жыл бұрын
Alex please explore the magic that is espresso! Make your own espresso machine, learn about growing coffee, roasting coffee, etc!
@avicennitegh1377
@avicennitegh1377 4 жыл бұрын
ooooh life's too short
@itsJPhere
@itsJPhere 4 жыл бұрын
An expensive exploration of espresso? DO IT ALEX!
@Simmuh2
@Simmuh2 3 жыл бұрын
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@improving2813
@improving2813 3 жыл бұрын
It's really hard to grow coffee in France due to weather conditions, it's why basically all the coffee is made close to the equator line
@ArduousFormula
@ArduousFormula 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a great article called "Systematically improving espresso: insights from mathematical modelling and experiment" thats available fre online. Its an interesting read. My biggest takeaway from it was to make sure you tamp down your grind properly, and to make sure you are using the right coarseness. Different roasts are up to a personal preference.
@wizerd5150
@wizerd5150 5 жыл бұрын
washing the pan with salt and water will clean the pan soft and gentle and polish the surface at the same time . my grandmother used this mothed for her cast iron .
@Tyler_B.
@Tyler_B. 5 жыл бұрын
Willy Wiswosco that’s how I was taught too.
@JJ-ds2wp
@JJ-ds2wp 4 жыл бұрын
nobody: him: all the RHHHUSTH iz goone
@devrim-oguz
@devrim-oguz 4 жыл бұрын
The ĞĞHRUST
@SamirDevs
@SamirDevs 4 жыл бұрын
JJ Verceles lol
@cupidismyname4937
@cupidismyname4937 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@wilduwu5987
@wilduwu5987 3 жыл бұрын
1:27 😂
@riccoratzo
@riccoratzo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing lots of seasoning sessions in the oven. Love, your electricity company :D
@AlanW
@AlanW 5 жыл бұрын
Alex: There's no chemical Me: Hate to break it to you, but it's nothing but chemicals.
@modelt8951
@modelt8951 5 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you, but this approach to people calling things chemicals is pedantic and unnecessary
@willie123567
@willie123567 5 жыл бұрын
@@modelt8951 I think they meant not quite in the "everything is chemicals" way but more in the polymerized oil isn't very far off from teflon in terms of how "chemical" they are way.
@nanoflower1
@nanoflower1 5 жыл бұрын
So how likely is it for the polymerized oil to break off and get in to the food versus teflon doing the same?
@TheTwiceborn95
@TheTwiceborn95 5 жыл бұрын
@@nanoflower1 both the polymerized oil and the teflon are proven carcenogenic. And i suspect either is equally as likely to break of and into the food, provided that you use utensils when you cook.
@szymonjastrzebski2909
@szymonjastrzebski2909 5 жыл бұрын
@@nanoflower1 polymerized oil is less strong (in chemical way) than teflon, thanks to simple structure, teflon is hard to break before melting point (a little bit more than 300C), but from other point, teflon after breakdown is way more nasty than oils, which are basically carbon, hydrogen and oxygen.
@dianemarchioni6556
@dianemarchioni6556 5 жыл бұрын
La vraie raison pour laquelle il faut utiliser de l’huile de lin, c’est parce que c’est une des rares huiles à être siccative: elle a la capacité de polymériser ou “durcir” (là chaleur en est un catalyseur). C’est pour ça qu’on l’utilise en peinture a l’huile! Tes vidéos sont top, je les attends toujours avec impatience!
@antonomaseapophasis5142
@antonomaseapophasis5142 4 жыл бұрын
La térébenthine fonction comme un catalyseur avec l'huile de lin?
@erwinwester9211
@erwinwester9211 4 жыл бұрын
You make a perfectly good argument for the seasoned pan over a teflon coated pan by mentioning the pros and the cons. That way you allow everyone their own choice. That is a perfect example of a not biased explanation. Im in your camp by the way. Thank you for your scientific explanation!
@olqb9532
@olqb9532 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing that sets you apart from most other cooking youtubers imo is that you're not saying thisnthat is incredibly easy. You keep making content around people that are just better at certain things and stay humble during the entire time. This makes advanced cooking and recipes a lot more approachable to me, thanks a lot!
@MysteryScienceGaming
@MysteryScienceGaming 5 жыл бұрын
teflon is always better for lower temps. If you're cooking very hot then teflon is not ideal. For eggs teflon is fine. For stir-fry then you don't want teflon.
@fabiorosa62
@fabiorosa62 5 жыл бұрын
I was also going to comment the same but saw yours first! In my experience, wok is the best for stir-fry. And the egg Alex cooked was a bit too much done for my taste.
@marioreali5925
@marioreali5925 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabiorosa62 perfectly done for me, my wife says it's burned...
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor 5 жыл бұрын
The technology has moved on since early stage Teflon. You can get non stick pans in which one can sear steaks without degradation.
@rona2524
@rona2524 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigHenFor I'd like to know the source behind the claims
@manoqueenz
@manoqueenz 5 жыл бұрын
@@rona2524 would be nice to get a source for all the above claims lol
@dani.phantm
@dani.phantm 5 жыл бұрын
congratulations on 1 million, Alex; fully desrved.
@LmnChupa
@LmnChupa 4 жыл бұрын
I always knew my damn oven was in the wrong part of my house. This is my first of your many videos that I am spending the rest of my week watching and liking. You are a human after my own soul. Keep up the wonderful work my friend. Like and subscribe to this awesome channel.
@michellemura6748
@michellemura6748 3 жыл бұрын
I love you bro. Your videos consistently cheer me up as well as educate me. Thanks for all the great stuff
@Googaliemoogalie
@Googaliemoogalie 4 жыл бұрын
in woodworking you can use higher and higher grit sandpaper to smooth layers of poly or any coatings. It's essentially the same, if you took a 2000-3000 grit sandpaper at the end, you could smooth it to glass
@robinsoncet
@robinsoncet 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Alex you the man...we never use our wok because every food sticks to it, but now we can :)
@petersmith6423
@petersmith6423 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a brand new Carbon Steel Wok and I saw a video where, before you cook , you get it roasting hot, then take it OFF the heat and put some high smoke point oil, like peanut oil in, and swirl it around, then cook your dish....... and so far, it works great, I think the Chinese even have a name for this process, so far, nothing has stuck!
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 4 жыл бұрын
Waiter: How would you like your egg cooked? Alex: Burnt to a crisp.
@Eto_Kusay
@Eto_Kusay 4 жыл бұрын
BOTH SIDES
@elimoorman5958
@elimoorman5958 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@finneh6145
@finneh6145 4 жыл бұрын
I actually love my egg nice and crispy lol
@piccoleitor
@piccoleitor 4 жыл бұрын
Even if I slightly overcook the yolk I throw it away and cook a new one. Crispy edges are fine, cooked yolk is garbage
@whengrapespop5728
@whengrapespop5728 3 жыл бұрын
@piccoleitor To each it’s own. Personally, I pop the yolk, then salt it and cook the egg on each side to a brown crisp. This way there’s a piece of yolk in each bite, and it’s cooked nicely. I do remember loving the uncooked yolk as a kid, though.
@bobfish3176
@bobfish3176 5 жыл бұрын
Can't beat a properly seasoned pan. I have some cast iron from the late 1800's still works great!
@danieldalton9055
@danieldalton9055 5 жыл бұрын
0:41 - “vinegar, salt... elbow grease” Really Alex? 0:52 - **uses hand drill** 😂😂
@Iris-uz9uf
@Iris-uz9uf 4 жыл бұрын
And at 0:44 to 0:45, the smirk as he steps off camera. He knows what he's about, son
@jacquesoosthuizen2630
@jacquesoosthuizen2630 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alex!! You just made me save alot of steel (carbon steel) pans!!! Appreciate
@xtspin6141
@xtspin6141 11 ай бұрын
Great episode. Flaxseed is a 'drying' oil and much better suited to seasoning cast iron/carbon steel. I've switched over and re-seasoned my pans. Also, a touch of dish soap occasionally to get the pans cleaned up will *not* strip/break down the coating. Until I did a little research and actually tried it, I would never have let a drop of soap touch my seasoned pans. But remember, the polymerization is a molecular bonding to the pan, a little soap here and there is not gonna hurt it and helps keep things cleaned up. Just remember to recoat with oil after drying. I like to reheat the pan to make sure the water is gone then apply a light coat with a silicone basting brush - paper towels can leave little bits behind.
@gicousinjoe6199
@gicousinjoe6199 6 ай бұрын
Yes mon ami, flaxseed oil is a 'drying' oil. However, the very nature of its drying properties, while seemingly advantageous, can be its downfall in the realm of cookware. It creates a brittle layer, prone to chipping and flaking, a fact overlooked by many an amateur. In the hands of a culinary artiste, oils with a higher smoke point and more robust bonding properties are preferred, ensuring a seasoning that ages like fine wine, not like a fragile fresco. As for the use of dish soap, you tread on a path that many fear to walk. And yes, a touch of soap will not ravage the seasoned layer, as you say. But it's not just about the molecular bonding; it's about the patina, the soul of the pan that develops over time. A seasoned pan is like a canvas, and each meal a stroke of the brush, adding to its unique character. While soap won't destroy this, it certainly doesn't add to the pan's story.
@dylansullivan380
@dylansullivan380 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Alex is slicker than a nonstick pan with the ladies ;) Love you Alex!
@goatslayerwp
@goatslayerwp 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe with dudes instead... Never know.
@LazyLifeIFreak
@LazyLifeIFreak 5 жыл бұрын
@@goatslayerwp Ask his wife.
@khushipatel776
@khushipatel776 5 жыл бұрын
LazyLife IFreak 😂😂😂
@Flotube444
@Flotube444 5 жыл бұрын
His wife and kid might not approve...
@goatslayerwp
@goatslayerwp 5 жыл бұрын
@@LazyLifeIFreak Still may like dudes too.
@MrFLAIMEBRAINE777
@MrFLAIMEBRAINE777 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sponsor loading bar Alex, keep up the good work.
@toshiro1981
@toshiro1981 3 жыл бұрын
This is the Video i found you for... Little did i know that a few month later i watched basically ALL your videos :D Thanks for everything and keep it up
@Isthatasoupe
@Isthatasoupe 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this, editing is spot on
@rockLuca14
@rockLuca14 5 жыл бұрын
When you peeled the pan before seasoning, it looked beautiful. By the end it was even more. Salut :)
@H4ffD3dd
@H4ffD3dd 3 жыл бұрын
Sheryl : "I did research into chemistry and found the best way to season a pan based in science" Alex: "Okay but I'm still gonna do it different"
@SaltNBattery
@SaltNBattery 3 жыл бұрын
Flax Seed oil is a terrible seasoning oil, it flakes off and doesn't bond well to the metal or itself. So what are you qualifications? "I read journal articles. I have no background in science whatsoever but I tried it and it worked." How has this well meaning ignorant woman's myth gained so much traction?
@chrisrioux
@chrisrioux 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaltNBattery Exactly! I followed her advice a year ago, spent an entire day re-seasoning all my cast iron with flaxseed oil, 5 coats each, came out beautifully, then flaked off on the first few uses. Never again.
@isolatedintegration1154
@isolatedintegration1154 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrioux Any scientist worth their seasoning knows that theories often does not reflect reality.
@Ichibuns
@Ichibuns 3 жыл бұрын
@@isolatedintegration1154 Theories are based on VERY specific conditions. Those conditions rarely exist.
@MandyWoodArtist
@MandyWoodArtist Жыл бұрын
I am allergic to teflon - it has taken me 15 years to work out where my headaches came from - so YES your non-stick version is much better - and who wants a fried egg without the butter taste! Thank you for teaching us how to do this.
@jedgurley
@jedgurley Жыл бұрын
I season my pans with whatever I can get but this is very informative, I like a hard finish but not lumpy and the thin coating worked a lot better! I even finely sanded with a 1000 grit between layers to get a unique surface. Kinda like layers of paint really!
@deluxeassortment
@deluxeassortment 5 жыл бұрын
The hardest, easiest, and most non-stick coating I have ever done came from Flaxseed oil. I've heard you can do even better with Safflower oil though.
@ronaldinho4eva1
@ronaldinho4eva1 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is a straight up genius. Videography and editing is so smooth. Such an incredible variety of tasks he has knowledge on.
@aesaehttr
@aesaehttr 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee: "If you're good in the front you're bad in the back. If your bad in the back, you're good in the front. If you are good everywhere then you're bad everywhere."
@Netherdan
@Netherdan 3 жыл бұрын
@@aesaehttr Actually, Sun Tzu
@caidenrandolph7257
@caidenrandolph7257 4 жыл бұрын
Your oven timer makes me happy
@basherero2440
@basherero2440 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, i saw two of your videos and i like them. The editing, how you communicate to the viewer, very informative channel and entertaining as well. Now im a subscriber. Keep doing quality vids. :)
@TheSallye33
@TheSallye33 4 жыл бұрын
@TamasMatyok
@TamasMatyok 3 жыл бұрын
well I made 8 of these and i think i kinda fcked up, somewhere the surface started falling of, dont you know why? I used linseed oil and a gas burner only
@Hr.Kolding
@Hr.Kolding 3 жыл бұрын
@@TamasMatyok don't use linseed or flaxseed oil. It's a myth that dosen't work in real life. Sunflower oil is much better
@larsklein5086
@larsklein5086 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I used these instructions to season my first cast iron pan (thinnest possible coating of linseed oil, baking it in the oven). At first I thought it worked perfectly: after 6 iterations, the pan was almost jet black and the first cooking tests were amazing. But the coat is extremely brittle and easily breaks off. Also, it seems to be very sensitive to heat. People on reddit told me that linseed is actually not very well suited for seasoning. The low smoke point makes the burning in easier, but the coating becomes heat sensitive. Also, linseed oil becomes too hard, the resulting coating is brittle. Many people seem to advocate using an oil with a very high smoking point instead. Also to just burn in one or two layers, then use the pan for daily cooking and wait till it seasons itself. How did this seasoning work out for you, was it durable? Maybe I messed up the process after all and the mistake is on my side.
@carlangelo653
@carlangelo653 4 жыл бұрын
Some linseed oil have additives that prevent it from working. Alex was probably using a very pure linseed oil. It's recommended to use Flaxseed oil as it is usually more pure. And if you can't get that to work I've always had good luck using Grapeseed oil.
@tanyadohoney5217
@tanyadohoney5217 Жыл бұрын
My new carbon steel wok just passed the egg test this morning. Love your videos! Merci beacoup!
@roberteigen4499
@roberteigen4499 3 жыл бұрын
a shear joy to watch you and listen to you!!! so much intelligence and humour!!!
@BunnyGini
@BunnyGini 5 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this video as soon as I saw the notification!
@foolfiend2943
@foolfiend2943 5 жыл бұрын
Found you through This Old Tony, been hooked ever since. Great content keep it up.
@vincesergi9583
@vincesergi9583 3 жыл бұрын
Alex, you are brilliant, I don't understand all the negative people. Keep on doing your stuff, I love it.
@rudilemmens
@rudilemmens 4 жыл бұрын
I realize I only see this video after some time. Great job! I do have to add though, that a wok pan absolutely needs the inner curved sides of it rough instead of smooth because it is originally made for one pan dishes. These rougher upper sides serve for keeping earlier preparations warm while using the lower portion of the pan searingly hot... Just My 2c
@missieclassy
@missieclassy 4 жыл бұрын
It might interest you to know that flax seed oil polymerization is used to create the floor covering called linoleum, which is a very hard, but flexible material perfect to use as floor tiles.
@chilldude30
@chilldude30 2 жыл бұрын
Cool fact!
@Maestro-gh2ei
@Maestro-gh2ei 2 жыл бұрын
Linseed-linoleum, cool
@baginatora
@baginatora Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I use sunflower oil for my steel skillet- works well. Also I found out that cooking temperature is as important as seasoning. You might have a million layer glass smooth seasoning and still overheat the pan and get sticky food. But then again, you can clean the pan, reseason it and start over :)
@somerandomguy9156
@somerandomguy9156 3 жыл бұрын
That wok is gorgeous man! Great job!
@bidibum
@bidibum 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, my research ends here. You and Sheryl Canter made science out of it!
@r.j.bedore9884
@r.j.bedore9884 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, Alex. What do you think of ceramic coated pans or enameled cast iron vs seasoned pans?
@taylormallory8705
@taylormallory8705 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously not Alex, but every enamel or ceramic pan I've ever owned has gone to crap after a short period of time. My seasoned caste iron pans and carbon steel wok, on the other hand, have never let me down.
@miapdx503
@miapdx503 5 жыл бұрын
If you like toxic chemicals in your food...
@iamarawn
@iamarawn 5 жыл бұрын
@@taylormallory8705 my enemaled pan is from the 60's and in great shape, what do you do with them?
@r.j.bedore9884
@r.j.bedore9884 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamarawn That's what I thought. My Grandfather has an enameled cast iron Dutch oven that he's had for 50-60 years. I just don't know how "nonstick" it is compared to a seasoned cast iron pan.
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 5 жыл бұрын
@@miapdx503 If you like toxic chemicals in your air.
@grndzro777
@grndzro777 3 жыл бұрын
The trick for nonstick on a regular pan is to use cold butter and press it into the surface. It's the little divots in the surface that make food stick. So as long as those are filled with oil, and not air the food won't stick to the pan.
@michaelfromparis
@michaelfromparis 4 жыл бұрын
la vidéo la plus complète que j'ai vue sur le sujet ... bravo et merci
@marcush4741
@marcush4741 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of taking what we have and making it better. I like the craftsmanship involved in taking a pan and seasoning it into a non-stick pan. For the same reason that I appreciate blued guns. What I mean to say there is that, much like with firearms, there are more effective modern coatings than bluing (a coating of black iron oxide, preventing the formation of red iron oxide from forming) But there is a sort of beauty in performing an older, less effective method of coating a firearm that requires care and knowledge of your tool (firearm/pan), especially when performed by the owner. The only place I take issue is when one refers to seasoning a pan as a natural or non-chemical method of making a pan stick less. Flax seeds dont naturally press themselves into an oil, land on a pan, and heat themselves to the point that they polymerize. And polymerization is definitely a man made process, creating a chemical change. Furtger, the person intervoewed states that we are actively looking to create the process heating oil which causes carcinogens in eaten food. I enjoy seasoning my pans. Maybe its safer than teflon, maybe its not. Regardless, seasoning a pan is still creating a manmade chemical coating which, if ingested, is not guaranteed to be safe. I am not stating that chemicals are bad and natural is good. I am stating that I feel it is intellectually dishonest to refer to manmade polymerization as natural/non-chemical, simply because we recognize all of the ingredients involved as natural. Trace any "chemical" back far enough, and you will find a list of completely recognizable ingredients. Trace gasoline back far enough and you get naturally occurring minerals paired with animals and plants fermented by naturally occurring bacteria/fungi. I am not posting this to be confrontational. I am posting this because you asked for opinions on the topic. I love the video (and gave it a like), and I love taking care of my cookware. It says a lot when you walk into a kitchen and see a cook that seasons their pans and sharpens their knives with care.
@SuperOGArchives
@SuperOGArchives 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew a non-stick pan was create from oils. I learned something today lol
@kingsford6540
@kingsford6540 5 жыл бұрын
Most non stick pans use teflon, a type of plastic. But yes, natural non stick is oils.
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 5 жыл бұрын
You could polish bare metal for the same smoothness.
@edvardkvist3656
@edvardkvist3656 2 жыл бұрын
Tip, don't use paper towels when cleaning or spreading oil between layers. Use a cotton towel, paper might leave small fragments that will become toast in the heat later on.
@117johnpar
@117johnpar Жыл бұрын
Maybe super duper cheap paper towels. I along with most home chefs have always used paper towels for seasoning. But if you have a kitchen cloth that wont ALSO release fibers when wiping down then that would be ideal to have.
@jeremyfirth
@jeremyfirth 3 жыл бұрын
I use grapeseed oil, and I season on the grill, but the last step is magical. After three coats of the oil, cut up a red onion and cook the onion (with more grapeseed oil) until it is brown. Use a wooded utensil to stir the onion. This will add that beautiful black layer of beautiful seasoning we all love.
@pamelabatchelor9204
@pamelabatchelor9204 4 жыл бұрын
I have wok researched for years and have finally found the way I keep up my wok in perfect condition. I found it at The Woks of Life website. I can make my wok great but the secrets are cooking and maintaining the surface. Plus I can’t imagine any Chinese person using 6 hours of oven time to season a wok. Just saying. Cook cook cook is secret to perfect wok. Love your show by the way. I just found you through Refika’s Kitchen. God I love KZfaq
@jaygio
@jaygio 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like he is an American doing a French accent... lol
@cancerousminecraftrobloxch2322
@cancerousminecraftrobloxch2322 4 жыл бұрын
Five Skin First of all, I disagree, second of all, why the fuck do you have a pimple as your profile pic?
@sparklingboba1748
@sparklingboba1748 4 жыл бұрын
@@cancerousminecraftrobloxch2322 aye man what if the guy has some pimple fetish?
@altayardicoglu5741
@altayardicoglu5741 4 жыл бұрын
Well he is just a pretentious french guy, so proud of his stupid accent. So you're not wrong.
@widtwidth3189
@widtwidth3189 4 жыл бұрын
he might be
@G3NK5T42
@G3NK5T42 4 жыл бұрын
@3:50 when he says I don't rub anybody, ok... He sounded like he broke character & said it with an American accent! So I think that you might be right on your speculation!
@mattgotsskill
@mattgotsskill 5 жыл бұрын
a nonstick wok is all i want out of life.
@DrStoooopid
@DrStoooopid 2 ай бұрын
Alex, I so enjoy watching your show. Sometimes I learn a lot, sometimes I have fun watching your struggle, but I think you bring a very human element to cooking and I love that about you and your show. If I ever make it over to France, I would so love to hang and cook something
@GetUrPhil
@GetUrPhil 3 жыл бұрын
Just in that little conversation w/ Sheryl Canter, she answered my question about smoke points.
@ragnorockcookie2868
@ragnorockcookie2868 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a cook but I'm a cook in my soul and you made me 💯 pumped up i want that so bad 😭
@tasteslikeawesome
@tasteslikeawesome 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like you’re bluing a steel gun, preparing for Flavor War in the heart of the Flavor Jungle.
@hexane360
@hexane360 5 жыл бұрын
"there's no chemical, it's just like a nice, very hard, polymerized surface"
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 5 жыл бұрын
Inhale that smoke from the process!
@wave1090
@wave1090 5 жыл бұрын
Teflon = Polymer Seasoning = Polymer lol
@AlCatrraz
@AlCatrraz 4 жыл бұрын
@@wave1090 In French.. Poly Mer == MANY SEAS.. (on ing)
@IttyBittyVox
@IttyBittyVox 4 жыл бұрын
yea it's not cooking bs without some chemophobia combined with home chemistry and a bit of smug satisfaction.
@DagaenGolomb
@DagaenGolomb 4 жыл бұрын
You know exactly what he means, don't try to act smart with semantics and technicalities. Polymers are a huge class of chemicals. Notably, this seasoning won't have fluorine in it or have the ability to create fluorocarbons once heated to degradation temperature. Remember average temperature can have some molecules at much higher (and some much lower) kinetic energy than the average. This is where skepticism on safety arises, regardless of known risk. It also won't scratch off after repeated light use of a cheap metal utensil.
@j.d.9381
@j.d.9381 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a wok, however, I do use a Field cast iron pan, and a De Buyer Mineral B. I use Grapeseed oil over the stove. Each time I cook, I clean the pan, then heat it up, apply the oil, wipe almost clean, and let it sit on the heat for a few minutes. wipe, then wipe again while cooling to avoid sticky. then let cool to room temp, and store.
@NocarzFalk
@NocarzFalk 4 жыл бұрын
I did it with linen oil, took me whole Sunday, today I made my first stir fry. First washing afterwards (no soap, mind you) and here goes the patina :D
@cmfrtblynmb02
@cmfrtblynmb02 Жыл бұрын
did you put it under water when it is hot?
@SS-xl9th
@SS-xl9th 5 жыл бұрын
3:49 **Suddenly becomes American**
@maelisawatkins2757
@maelisawatkins2757 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@NEprimo
@NEprimo 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that too! I haven't watched alex in 2 years, and coming back to hear his voice(probably because he is talking in English much more lately)... his accent is slowly going away. Kinda like pewdiepie's accent when he first started
@sfotinos22
@sfotinos22 3 жыл бұрын
“We will get rid of the rust with vinegar , salt and elbow grease.” - proceeds go use a Brillo pad attached to a drill.
@bryanw2961
@bryanw2961 3 жыл бұрын
I use (outdoors) a charcoal chimney starter full of red hot coals to get the bluing. I (per Grace Young I believe) make popcorn in the wok every now and then to maintain the seasoning. EDIT: Never mind... Right after watching and commenting here, KZfaq suggested that I watch Alex's video on making a wok burner out of a chimney starter. 😁
@yeetmcmeat
@yeetmcmeat 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you in saying that the seasoned wok is better than a Teflon pan. The reason being Teflon isn't nearly as hard or durable as the oil seasoning and, in my opinion, scratches very easily. Pus, the seasoned pan has the benefit that its cheaper and can be redone basically forever, whereas a Teflon pan gradually gets stickier and can't be as easily fixed. Besides, cooking with a little oil or butter will just add flavor alongside it helping things not stick.
@ShortHandedNow
@ShortHandedNow 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of BBQ... When will you start doing some BBQ on the channel??? The things you can do with a used Weber Kettle BBQ will blow your mind Alex!!!
@mendonesiac
@mendonesiac 4 жыл бұрын
Like seasoning a carbon steel pan, for instance.
@Andres-wh3cz
@Andres-wh3cz 4 жыл бұрын
How do you feel the linseed (flaxseed) oil held up over cooking time or when cooking at higher temperatures such as stir fry? I found it to flake off at higher temps.
@cdub42
@cdub42 3 жыл бұрын
This is the overwhelming consensus in the cast iron and carbon steel communities. Kind of a bummer he went this route
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 3 жыл бұрын
I recently seasoned a pan of mine. Tried flaxseed - got a sticky mess. Tried a good coconout oil - worked a treat.
@TristanJCumpole
@TristanJCumpole 2 жыл бұрын
This is nothing that is unfamiliar to cast iron pan owners like myself. What I'd say is that firstly, the pan/wok needs heating with no oil first in order to drive out any residual environmental moisture. In the case of iron, this "opens" the pores (which is not a literal thing, I know). I wipe oil my oil (also linseed) whilst the surface is still warm so that the oil has a lower surface tension and is able to work itself into the surface's structure, microscratches and imperfections better. Beyond that, it's much the same process as here of wiping till cloths come back clean, baking for 30-60mins and repeating several times.
@AlergicToSnow
@AlergicToSnow 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, a textured surface up the sides is a good thing. You often want to move food to a cooler zone up the side, and the texture helps it to stay there. Also, you should have tried the egg before you wasted so much time. It’s ready to use after one or two seasoning cycles. It will get better with time and use but you don’t need to spend all day seasoning before it’s ok to start using it.
@duratoke
@duratoke Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of science is just about wasting time anyway.
@davidnettleton3375
@davidnettleton3375 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is what I was wondering as well. You want it seasoned, and relatively non-stick. But not so slippery as to not be able to push food up the sides to get away from the heat. In fact, my wok actually has rings going around the inside of the walls (not on the bottom), so it could never be completely smooth unless I wore off the rings.
@niko1even
@niko1even 7 ай бұрын
@@duratoke excessive seasoning isn't science, it's overcompensation. Science is there to save us time and to keep us safe.
@mikethor009
@mikethor009 5 жыл бұрын
A Teflon pan is indeed usually more convenient, the drawback is the fumes one gets when forgetting it on the stove while it's on. My personal preference is doing the same process you did with a regular pan.
@bliekp
@bliekp 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely steel for me! No cancerous teflon in my food! Also teflon pans get bad in a couple of years, it's a waste. I have one steel skillet I already use for 20 years and I still love it. Great tips about the seasoning! Definitely going to try this!
@deadpeach07
@deadpeach07 4 жыл бұрын
For some reason everything is cancerous these days
@SpaceIsThePlace_
@SpaceIsThePlace_ Жыл бұрын
The last Teflon pan I purchased only lasted me 6 months 😅
@pneuma206
@pneuma206 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this video!! Subscribed :)
@ThorbjrnPrytz
@ThorbjrnPrytz 5 жыл бұрын
Hehe, love your jokes ! "spread this like butter on a non-stick pan"!!
@Sentryalmighty
@Sentryalmighty 5 жыл бұрын
*holds up a mirror of blue-black goodness "yeah it's not good enough, it needs a little more smoothening"
@dubOZ
@dubOZ 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have much interest in cooking myself but I love watching cooking videos. With that limited knowledge, my opinion is that a wok is better as you can keep maintaining it throughout the years as compared to Teflon which is assume is hard if not impossible to replicate outside of a factory or lab.
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