Capcom....we need to talk

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Maximilian Dood

Maximilian Dood

11 ай бұрын

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Max discusses the recent collaboration between Street Fighter 6 and TMNT with the release of a costume pack...and how it's pricing has some raising an eyebrow.
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@carlbloke8797
@carlbloke8797 10 ай бұрын
Not only are the prices for the Ninja Turtle costumes pretty stupid, you can just use the $60 to buy both TMNT Shredder’s Revenge and the Cowabunga Collection and they would both be worth $60 COMBINED and leave you more satisfied in the long run
@SuperFusionAJ93
@SuperFusionAJ93 10 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@BearWith_You
@BearWith_You 10 ай бұрын
I mean 15 bucks for just a skin is nothing new. Fortnite, CoD and now Overwatch is thriving off this shit. Only reason this feels any more scummy is cause those packs come with small extra trinkets
@staticshock4239
@staticshock4239 10 ай бұрын
In fact, you can buy those two and Injustice Legendary Edition and that's only slightly more than 4 TMNT costumes.
@anormalhumanhopefully8570
@anormalhumanhopefully8570 10 ай бұрын
​@@BearWith_Youonly reason this feels scummy is because it has ALWAYS been scummy but because the FGC is not accustomed yet to it like CoD or OW players are they face more backlash
@limelight58able
@limelight58able 10 ай бұрын
@kingraistorm - it's new for a Capcom fighting game. $15 is a lot for skins you can only use in the Battle Hub
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 10 ай бұрын
I *really* hope Capcom doesn't take the wrong message from this whole thing when the sales invariably don't meet their expectations, but it happens all the time. It's never "the players didn't agree with our price-point" or "we artificially padded this event for engagement", it's always "the players just aren't interested in this cool thing we tried, so we'll never do it again".
@mikejonesnoreally
@mikejonesnoreally 10 ай бұрын
Right. Since doing stuff like this costs a LOT of money. If you look at these prices and go "WoW!" Meanwhile CAPCOM is looking at TMNTs licensing prices and are going "WoW!" xD
@ADreamingTraveler
@ADreamingTraveler 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. I want so badly to just buy cool skins in this game, especially for fighters. But if they're going to cost this much I'm not paying for them.
@carlbloke8797
@carlbloke8797 10 ай бұрын
@@ADreamingTraveler me neither
@captainonomatopoeia
@captainonomatopoeia 10 ай бұрын
No. I think they know what they’re doing. They just don’t want to find a compromise with the price for future events.
@mormegil84
@mormegil84 10 ай бұрын
They're probably making bank on this.
@PSIclops_
@PSIclops_ 10 ай бұрын
I think the funniest part of the prices is that you could buy real life TMNT costumes for about the same price. Very happy that Max talked about this because as he said, this was an extremely hype reveal until I found out it was 15 bucks for an AVATAR COSTUME. You can’t even wear these in over half of the modes in the game. No extreme battles, ranked matches, room matches, nothing. You get it in world tour, avatar battles, and walking around the hub.
@JcgLounge
@JcgLounge 10 ай бұрын
I think the worst part about this is the fact that they’re literally putting this on a timed sort of deal. It says at the bottom that those costumes are available for purchase, UNTIL 9/30/2023. Meaning you have until the end of next month to buy one of them, or all of them, before that date. Otherwise they’re gone forever. So not only are the asking prices dumb, but Capcom is using the power of FOMO to essentially bait their customers into spending money just for these few costumes.
@TFrenzy15
@TFrenzy15 10 ай бұрын
blame fortnite
@GabagoolGang
@GabagoolGang 10 ай бұрын
yeah its predatory
@gapsule2326
@gapsule2326 10 ай бұрын
FOMO ruined gaming. I hate starting a game and realizing half the game is forever locked because I didnt play since launch.
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 10 ай бұрын
TBF, multi-corporation collab items often go like this, especially in Japanese gacha game industry. I don't really get why either, why not just have it be permanently available? It's nuts lol
@iaqh
@iaqh 10 ай бұрын
​@@TFrenzy15 Mk11 released in 2019, 2 years after fortnite, and they didn't have fomo, you can still buy the coIIab characters today, bIame capcom for copying fortnite
@davehoffman515
@davehoffman515 10 ай бұрын
I could see $15 for all turtles and masks, not $15 for one costume
@alwaysxnever
@alwaysxnever 10 ай бұрын
Agree.
@87crimson
@87crimson 10 ай бұрын
For 15 USD or the regional price equivalent I'd rather get a game on sale.
@randomyoutuber7898
@randomyoutuber7898 10 ай бұрын
​@@87crimsonfacts you could get 2 games probably
@707zacbuster
@707zacbuster 10 ай бұрын
That price is on par or worse than the price for overwatch skins
@bigjimsmistake4866
@bigjimsmistake4866 10 ай бұрын
$5 per, or $15 for the pack and this is a must-buy
@hangry3102
@hangry3102 10 ай бұрын
The fact there were only a couple of Ninja turtles in the lobby right at launch speaks volumes to how ridiculous the price is.
@tryingtochangemyways5074
@tryingtochangemyways5074 10 ай бұрын
I mean there are hundreds of lobby in Asia,europe,usa,central base on all those lobbies you can't make that statement..Because you didn't check every lobby to see how many people actually bought that crap
@ghosttactician403
@ghosttactician403 10 ай бұрын
​@@tryingtochangemyways5074that's called a sample size
@Nelsathis
@Nelsathis 10 ай бұрын
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 Isnt the US pretty much the target group though? Thats where the people are who they can make bank with, through nostalgia. So i do think its telling that you really dont see as much.
@angryfish3679
@angryfish3679 10 ай бұрын
@@Nelsathis TMNT was actually very popular when I grew up in Sweden. Small country though so yea, the US demographic is obviously the big moneymaker for this event.
@AtomDragon12
@AtomDragon12 10 ай бұрын
For the people speculating this is just a Nickelodeon licencing thing, it's well worth knowing that Smite collab'd with TMNT (and some other Nick properties too) and everything was priced the same as the other collab skins. This is solely a Capcom decision. Nothing else.
@shawnfee9107
@shawnfee9107 10 ай бұрын
Can confirm. Session, a skateboarding sim made by a small studio did a TMNT collab update. In it was costumes matching all 4 of the turtles' new designs, as well as a small sewer skate park. It was 100% free, costumes were purchasable in the in-game shop for in-game currency you earn by playing the game. Two key points here: *Small studio*, *100% free*. This is all capcom, unfortunately.
@shawnfee9107
@shawnfee9107 10 ай бұрын
And to be honest, I'd be surprised if they actually did pay any licensing because the collab is literally free advertisement for the new movie, extending to a whole slew of potential movie-goers. IF they did pay anything, it probably wasn't nearly enough to come close to a cost requirement of $15 per costume to recoup the license fee.
@captaindestruction9332
@captaindestruction9332 10 ай бұрын
But, Nickelodeon still has to sign off on it. Capcom doesn’t have free reign to price TMNT if Nick doesn’t approve. Unless they have some special agreement where Capcom pays a lump some and can do what they want price wise, even then its still on Nick for allowing it. I get what your saying but for it to be completely on Capcom it would require them owning the TMNT license.
@thedukealastor
@thedukealastor 10 ай бұрын
Late but Brawlhalla also did a TMNT collab, same price as everything else. I thought these would be costumes for Kim/Chun/Ryu/Luke since that seemed to be what the marketing was implying.
@orca717
@orca717 10 ай бұрын
Also, the ninja turtles in injustice 2 cost less these costumes.
@simplastic
@simplastic 10 ай бұрын
What Capcom basically is doing is testing the costumes sales market without risking their own IP costumes
@republic1173
@republic1173 10 ай бұрын
$15 for a costume is not even bad. Yalls act like yalls live in the streets with no job
@simplastic
@simplastic 10 ай бұрын
@@republic1173 you type like you love on the streets tbh
@videogamerlexis
@videogamerlexis 10 ай бұрын
​@@republic1173Orrrr or... I don't spend $15 and download mod costumes instead for free
@MrMe69420
@MrMe69420 10 ай бұрын
@@republic1173 1/4 the price of a game for a single costume isn't insane? Who are you, Bill Gates?
@kwasiahenkora6583
@kwasiahenkora6583 10 ай бұрын
@@republic1173Just because you can afford it doesn’t mean it’s a good deal
@PeteCS
@PeteCS 10 ай бұрын
In a free to play game I could maybe see myself grabbing a $15 costume if it was really nice. In a $60 game that expects $30 a year for new characters, it’s genuinely absurd. If it had been $15 for *all* the TMNT stuff, I think that would be totally fair.
@dddaaa6965
@dddaaa6965 10 ай бұрын
15, 20, even 30 for all that stuff easily, but 60 bucks (even more if you want to get the avatar stuff)...Nope...not even goin to consider it even if it was a franchise I enjoyed.
@yolyrodz33
@yolyrodz33 10 ай бұрын
exactly, I didnt mind the prices in Brawlhalla or any other collab since its a F2P and it gives more than enough currency to unlock fighters, everything else is purely cosmetic and they even have regular sales like rn the TMNT collab is on sale on their shop. but this? on a full priced release with future DLC planned? its absolutely fucking insane
@hotzauhse
@hotzauhse 10 ай бұрын
Maybe im stingy but i'll never spend $15 on a skin even if the game is f2p. You say $5? Sure i could consider it but nothing higher than that for a skin.
@NightFoxZero
@NightFoxZero 10 ай бұрын
What's crazy too is that DLC characters in this game cost as much as a turtles bandana and they're whole ass characters
@TheAnomaly2K
@TheAnomaly2K 10 ай бұрын
@PeteCS i think 15$ for all collab items is still too much. They should’ve just hid them in world tour
@ComicCrossing
@ComicCrossing 10 ай бұрын
I REALLY hope that they figure out pricing by the next collab. Because these prices are unacceptable for a costume.
@JustNardo
@JustNardo 10 ай бұрын
As is always the case with this stupid price gouging, if enough dumbies buy it at the current price they are just going to keep doing it. Really sucks. I hope that isn't the case though. I refuse to pay that much for a cosmetic
@RycoreXIII
@RycoreXIII 10 ай бұрын
You say "figure out" like they don't know EXACTLY what they're doing.
@Belive7heHype
@Belive7heHype 10 ай бұрын
​@JustNardo they are going to pull the age old sorry we did this it's only 10 bucks now we heard you loud and clear lol and then pretend like they are hooking us up
@mikejonesnoreally
@mikejonesnoreally 10 ай бұрын
With respect, the *market* will decide that, not you. As always.
@HanDaimond
@HanDaimond 10 ай бұрын
The reason why they're doing it is because SF6 is a success so they figured they could get away with it, not in a million years would've done the same with SFV.
@joeadams1663
@joeadams1663 10 ай бұрын
The fact he's more impressed with the custom Dan is like a cherry on top
@truthhertz351
@truthhertz351 10 ай бұрын
Not only did you get the TMNT character in Injustice 2 for 10 bucks, but they had different gear/skin options and the weapon you chose determined the character so you were really kinda buying all 4 turtles with different gameplay for each. While getting only the cosmetic skins for TMNT in this game is 60 dollars.
@MrPsymind
@MrPsymind 10 ай бұрын
It gets worse when you think that this price converted to other currencies, gets absurd really fast. With no regional pricing, it's just a No, sadly.
@ElSandwich777
@ElSandwich777 10 ай бұрын
This. This may be 15 dollars american, but it’s thirty dollars here each. I don’t want to sound ungrateful but I can buy entire games for thirty dollars. It’s just not worth it imo
@Dead51012
@Dead51012 10 ай бұрын
​​​@@ElSandwich777 nah man. You're not ungrateful for being smart with your money. You can get the new tmnt game and the collection together for around $60 I believe, or whatever $60 american would be where you are. Both things hold way more value than these costumes. I was really excited and planned on getting them all or whatever bundle they'd have if they had one. But the second I saw the prices, I didn't even want to get ONE. Because if three other people also get one, thats $60 they made aka another copy of sf6 basically and I'm all good on that. They should absolutely not make the price of the game back in four skin sales. That is outrageous and no one should give them money for this. I get licensing can be a bitch. But if it causes you to price gouge the hell out of the product then you're probably better off just not doing the collab, but they went for it and hopefully they get burned hard for it. If the game where free to play, I would have way less issues with it
@KazukiSendoh
@KazukiSendoh 10 ай бұрын
Not even remotely ungrateful, @@ElSandwich777 . This is one of the worst deals for DLC anyone has ever seen. One of these costumes is the price of an entire season's pass of content in basically any other game that exists. It's embarrassing and Capcom should refund people who bought it and lower the price. You can literally go buy an indie game that took someone YEARS of effort to make for this much money.
@marcosm1223
@marcosm1223 10 ай бұрын
I just checked because I was curious, and each costume would cost me R$80,70. The set would be R$322,80. For reference, the standard edition of SF6 costs R$249,00 - R$280,00 depending on platform. Comparing the ratio, It would be like if the set was US$78.00. It's utterly ridiculous.
@ElSandwich777
@ElSandwich777 10 ай бұрын
@@Dead51012 took your advice and spent 40 on Shredders Revenge and the TMNT collection. Playing it this weekend. Thank you 😊
@SilverShion
@SilverShion 10 ай бұрын
This is not Nickelodeon's , this is Capcom's entire fault. Before the TMNT, they released a fullbody pirate costume. And it costs almost 20 bucks.
@ak-ub1ym
@ak-ub1ym 10 ай бұрын
Nick is the shot caller here , capcom has been generous with their collabs and know how to handle it and atleast give u chance to craft the costume like how they did with Mhw ones.
@skyuru
@skyuru 10 ай бұрын
I still prefer the swimsuit costume than spending 15 bucks for a turtle suit...
@shawnfee9107
@shawnfee9107 10 ай бұрын
I agree 110%, because Session did a TMNT Collab, complete with all 4 turtles AND a (small) sewer skate park level. All that was completely free. No reason an avatar costume should cost as much as some indie games.
@DANCERcow
@DANCERcow 10 ай бұрын
Bro really trying to use session as an argument lmao
@thechugg4372
@thechugg4372 10 ай бұрын
@@ak-ub1ym you are comparing a game from 2018 to 2023 capcom dude.... also in a completely different genre, and this is the first collab for SF6 so we still have to wait and see if other collabs get cheaper or not. Saying they were cheaper 5 years ago in another genre of game is completely unrelated to the situation here.
@snatcher8517
@snatcher8517 10 ай бұрын
1 step forward, 2 steps back. Bravo Capcum
@GabagoolGang
@GabagoolGang 10 ай бұрын
every single time
@TsurugiMatsuda
@TsurugiMatsuda 10 ай бұрын
One extra step backward for that "Mega Man X DiVE Offline" costing 30 bucks to BUY on Steam as well.
@HeftyDan
@HeftyDan 10 ай бұрын
Crapcum
@MaddiemanGames
@MaddiemanGames 10 ай бұрын
100% this. There must be tons of people that grew up in the 90s with SF and TMNT that wouldn't give a second thought to dropping $5 to mess about in Battle Hub and World Tour for the weekend as a ninja turtle. But $15 is crazy for a single costume. And it does sour the experience -- Battle Hub is feeling less like a friendly local arcade and more like a tourist trap laced with overpriced gift shops trying to rip you off.
@FaeroN
@FaeroN 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video, Max. Way more people need to call this shit out.
@JardsonJean
@JardsonJean 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad Max did a video on this as well, but I feel like he went pretty light on this topic. Other companies would be getting slammed to the ground for stuff like this and Capcom has showed they're not willing to shy away from greedy mtx. If they did this with TMNT (which is a loved IP, don't get me wrong, but it's kinda niche) I doubt they'll do it different for others. I'd say asking 5 for each would be pushing it. 15 is CRAZY!
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 10 ай бұрын
@@JardsonJean don't get me wrong, the general point of everything you just said is truth, just seeing someone call TMNT of all things "kinda niche" just had me flabbergasted lol.
@JardsonJean
@JardsonJean 10 ай бұрын
@@MagillanicaLouM It might be huge, idk. I just don't see it being so important that they felt it was a justified price, because it's really not. If normal costume skins come out and they're like 10 usd each, I really will not be happy with anyone approaching this in a light way.
@Amrehlu
@Amrehlu 10 ай бұрын
@@MagillanicaLouM They are very niche, they are more niche than anime costumes would be, by along shot. I don't know a single person, nor does anyone I know, know, anyone that would ever spend money on TMNT anything. I even enjoyed the turtles a lot as a kid, but as an adult I know well enough that they were and are pretty lame. They're on the same level of old, lame, niche stuff as Power Rangers. Plenty of people still love them in a nostalgic or ironic way but that is the extreme minority. Also on the main point, other companies wouldn't be getting slammed to the ground. This pricing is STANDARD for cosmetics these days. If you're seeing full body costumes in a game costing less than $10-25 EACH, that is the rarity; THAT'S the crazy thing. Look at Diablo 4 as a recent example. The genre doesn't matter, it is the market that matters. That market is "cosmetics in videogames" and people being godawful, bad, consumers have allowed this kind of pricing for something so simple to become normal. No game genre is going to escape this shit at this point, the scales tipped like 5+ years ago and it's only gonna get worse before it gets better, if it can at all. Always remember, these companies and the people working in them do not care about you, about what you like, and have little to no respect for you or any of their own IPs unless you're coming at them with a mod and pitchforks. So make as much noise about this as you can and help incite a riot, cause that is the only thing that MIGHT work for 5 minutes.
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 10 ай бұрын
@@JardsonJean nah yeah I agree the prices are dumb. Absolute nonsense going on
@DashXero
@DashXero 10 ай бұрын
The TMNT were pretty much the entirety of my childhood, so I’ve been a fan for a while. I saw those prices, and went “nostalgia ain’t worth that much.” And it hurts because it’s obvious that a lot of love and care went into making those costumes.
@unskilledgamer3642
@unskilledgamer3642 10 ай бұрын
Same here. I really like how popular the Turles became again in the last few years but Capcom just went a bit to far with this. If I ever see these costumes on a sale I'm gonna buy all of them, but not before that.
@galaxy_kitten95
@galaxy_kitten95 10 ай бұрын
I grew up with the 2003 series and after seeing Mutant Mayham, I’ve been on a Turtle high ever since. That being said, Capcom is ripping off the fans with these prices. I love the Turtles, but no way in hell am I paying THAT amount for each character.. 😒 It’s not worth it. I can spend a majority of that money getting the physical copy of Shredder’s Revenge and it be worth every penny.
@unskilledgamer3642
@unskilledgamer3642 10 ай бұрын
@@galaxy_kitten95 Shredder's Revenge is great. But you could also save your money and wait for The Last Ronin.
@galaxy_kitten95
@galaxy_kitten95 10 ай бұрын
@@unskilledgamer3642 I do own the digital copy and it’s loads of fun, even more insane playing it with a friend! And no worries. I’m definitely getting The Last Ronin at some point for sure. 👍🏾
@thesekininja
@thesekininja 10 ай бұрын
"it’s obvious that a lot of love and care went into making those costumes." DID U SEE THEIR DISGUSTING HIDEOUS FACES??!!😨🤢🤮 no one can draw anymore it semes😞
@onthewaychris
@onthewaychris 10 ай бұрын
I think they missed a huge opportunity to expand the world tour mode with this collaboration as well ...just think of the possibilities or even Casey Jones as an actual guest character in game.
@kokoro_gospel
@kokoro_gospel 10 ай бұрын
April covering some of the goings-on in Metro City would also have been a nice touch as well.
@gunpeiyaboi5280
@gunpeiyaboi5280 10 ай бұрын
i could almost understand the price tag if the costumes were unlockable through WT quests and buying them was just a shortcut. honestly all of the costume items should be, i would have LOVED to fight a pirate for the parrot on his shoulder
@HumanStyleBeing
@HumanStyleBeing 10 ай бұрын
Damn…🥹
@mastudillo13
@mastudillo13 10 ай бұрын
Nice to see that they're on track to rivaling DOA in costume prices. I guess we shall see how they go about future collabs and outfits!
@Haydn780
@Haydn780 10 ай бұрын
this is actually worse if we're talking about costumes specifically. The issue DOA had is that it would cost like $20 for 1 outfit that has minor changes for each the female characters, but that's still 15+ different characters with slight variations that you can use in all match types apposed to 1 costume for your avatar. (not defending DOA here btw, DOA6s Greed basically killed the game)
@blazin_sky
@blazin_sky 10 ай бұрын
DOA5 has DLC stuff for more than 1500$ right? xD
@josephday5038
@josephday5038 10 ай бұрын
Glad this is getting called out. I have been loving SF6 but their recent pricing on avatar costumes has been killing the good will towards the game. Their summer costumes before this were ridiculously priced as well. The only silver lining on the summer outfits was that they could be purchased with the fighter bucks we can get for free. The fact that it is all the same costume just in different colors adds to the shameful greed.
@NezeruGaming
@NezeruGaming 10 ай бұрын
The reality of the situation is that they're $15 because CAPCOM's money people already did the math and concluded that this is a "reasonable" price for skins in 2023. For every three people that would've bought a $5 skin, they only need one person to buy the $15 one. The AAA industry slowly cooked the gaming community like a frog in a kettle as we let these rising prices slide for so long.
@kingvagar
@kingvagar 10 ай бұрын
🎯💯
@Hypno_BPM
@Hypno_BPM 10 ай бұрын
capcom sold a lot of skins for SFV so i’m sure they figured it out
@MrOrzeker
@MrOrzeker 10 ай бұрын
I would honestly love to look at the actual numbers from buyers, because i HIGHLY doubt that 1/4 players is buying those skins, which would indicate that it's not worth the price.
@Hypno_BPM
@Hypno_BPM 10 ай бұрын
@@MrOrzeker you think 25% of players buy skins in fighting games ? that’s unrealistic imo. i think it’s more like 10% and that’s being generous.
@MrOrzeker
@MrOrzeker 10 ай бұрын
@@Hypno_BPM Like I said i highly doubt that 25% of players are buying skins (especially at that kind of prices). But we honestly don't know the real numbers, and 1 day i would really like to see actual % of playerbase that interact with microtransaction.
@aviataur
@aviataur 10 ай бұрын
The cost of all the four costumes is the cost of the entire game.
@FastAkira
@FastAkira 10 ай бұрын
I think 5 dollar for all the turtles would be a fair price, considering we’ve already payed a minimum of 60 dollars , plus dlcs etc. 5 dollar for all vs 15 dollar for one, it’s a huge difference in perspective
@tavianfloyd6589
@tavianfloyd6589 10 ай бұрын
This is just unacceptable for costumes. If they keep this up it's just going to sour people on a great game.
@hotzauhse
@hotzauhse 10 ай бұрын
Costumes shouldn't be more than $4 imo and even that seems expensive
@blackmanta2527
@blackmanta2527 10 ай бұрын
I don't want any collabs if they are greedy like this again. They'll just give sf6 a bad rep
@JustinJonesDuke
@JustinJonesDuke 10 ай бұрын
A decade ago, a dollar for something like this was a stretch. It is so crazy that now $5 is considered a fair deal, and the developer is pushing for $15.
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 10 ай бұрын
crazy indeed
@DCFHazardRebornChannel
@DCFHazardRebornChannel 10 ай бұрын
A decade ago? Doubt it was that cheap. I think you might be thinking of longer than a decade. 10 bucks for cosmetic coatumes has been a price for a decade now. No idea what game you found with 1 dollar costumes. Think you might be thinking of before that, when it wasn't even a thing. And going that far back the quality was also crappy. Now we are at 25 and 30 bucks for costumes in many games. PoE is around the 18 mark avergae, some more expensive some less. I think warframe remains to be among the cheapest atm. 5 bucks is a good price, the quality of the costume deserves it. But 15? 15 is nuts. Im hoping chatacter costumes are around there, 8 to 12 bucks max. I fear they will be more expensive though
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 10 ай бұрын
@@DCFHazardRebornChannel ??? What are you on about? 2013 there were hardly any games with this type of monetization. If they had it, it was rare unless you're talking about pc games like dota and league of legends?
@DCFHazardRebornChannel
@DCFHazardRebornChannel 10 ай бұрын
@@atomickaiser1934 pc games only indeed. Consoles took longer. And there were plenty that started the practice around 2010 onwards and by 2013 the mtx model had been established. At no point was a costume 1 dollar. Unless if it's some small title I am not aware of. I'm talking more mainstream or larger titles. The f2p model was latest 2014 more properly establishes I'd argue, but yeah exact years are not precise atm. And pc for all these cases. That's why I said before 10 years im not sure the practice was even known if it existed, which by estimate is the only time period were 1 dollar skins existed....... Point being, I don't think there ever was a 1 dollar costume price range period at all. Again, I'm sure some game that only 5 people know about and played did it, lol, but I also assume the quality was poor at that time if it existed at all.
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 10 ай бұрын
@@DCFHazardRebornChannel If costumes weren't a dollar it was probably because they were always bundled with others. Usually around 3-5 dollars for 3 costumes 10 years ago. That price range was usually fighting games or jrpgs. Which is still hell of a lot cheaper compared to todays standards.
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 10 ай бұрын
I Still hate how no one talks about that the original outfit colors are sold in the store and isn’t available without paying for them. That’s just ridiculous. Sure, this is way worse, but we got here because people were blind sided by the second outfits and their colors being free and no one called them out on it. No one called them out on the battlepass either because “it’s just avatar cosmetic”. Are we really surprised that we got here slowly but surely?
@TheVodkaHaze
@TheVodkaHaze 10 ай бұрын
And to people who say "But you can get costume 1 for free with the drive tickets", it took me a month to get all the colours for Manon. So expect to get all the costumes for the base roster by Winter 2024/25.
@blok--head7472
@blok--head7472 10 ай бұрын
*FINALLY* someone mentions how we can't unlock colors for the default costume. Drive tickets or not, that's just unacceptable that we can't even unlock them in Fighting Ground.
@Spwookie
@Spwookie 10 ай бұрын
I didn't like the battlepass, because usually battlepass practices come hand in hand with what's happening now with tmnt... Capcom can have very tunnel vision sometimes... but SF6 is great and could be even better, so I hope they really see the issue with these decisions and not just blame it on the players like always...
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 10 ай бұрын
@@TheVodkaHaze yeah, the amount of drive ticket we can get is laughable. It’s pretty much designed so that you can buy 1-2 stuff that you like, having those make you want more, but you can no longer buy those with drive tickets, so you spend money on them.
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 10 ай бұрын
@@Spwookie SF6 is still, and probably will be, my favourite fighting game of all time for a long time, and i think it will continue to do well simply because of how fun it is. People are not going to stop playing because s costume is too expensive that’s for sure. But i do hope that enough people are going to wake up, accept the fact that these systems are way overpriced on top of being predatory and don’t buy it, so that Capcom has to change their approach with cosmetics. Like, if i have to buy outfit 3, and then i have to buy all the colors for it seperately, that’s a big Nope for me. I still don’t have, and probably will never have all the outfit 1 colors.
@JROTGS
@JROTGS 10 ай бұрын
Anyone else found it hilarious Max’s whole point about the price and how there should be turtles everywhere; and the vid ends with a whole “ we have the turtles at home” guy walking right pass lol Don’t know if that was intentional but it got a chuckle
@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO
@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO 10 ай бұрын
Finally a streamer calling this out. Everyone saying "it's just cosmetics "or "it's just for your avatar" is what enables Capcom to keep doing this. And for reference this is not licensing costs since the Summer costumes they launched in the shop are even more expensive and it's also for your avatar. My bet is that character costumes will have normal price but avatar stuff will be super overpriced as it currently is just to prey on FOMO of players that want the customization. The limited time avatar costumes that launched will total over 100$ if you get all colors (you cant recolor for free like stuff you get in world tour). For reference it's 1200 fighter coins for 1 color of the pirate set. If these were the prices for new dlc characters everyone would be up in arms but since it's for stuff they don't care about most people just dismiss it. Thanks again for shining a light on this problem
@xkmuffinzx3915
@xkmuffinzx3915 10 ай бұрын
Wait there are costumes even MORE expensive than 15 bucks?
@kingjayded4752
@kingjayded4752 10 ай бұрын
Wait until the street fighter costumes are priced like this, they will change their tune
@grapejuice8595
@grapejuice8595 10 ай бұрын
​@@kingjayded4752The weird thing is the character costumes will likely be much cheaper considering the costumes you can already buy since launch
@landonhulett2119
@landonhulett2119 10 ай бұрын
Costumes in general shouldn't cost more than $5. Why spend so much for a cosmetic that doesn't do anything other than make your character look swag?
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 10 ай бұрын
@@landonhulett2119I would argue costumes should cost $0, and the $60 you spent on the game should cover the whole game, but I’m a purist
@dannypatrick9361
@dannypatrick9361 10 ай бұрын
Max I am so glad you're bringing this up. No one big has ever mentioned the extremely greedy practices Capcom are trying to sneak into SF6. Paying for colours is the most egregious in my opinion. Editing the hue of an outfit is not hard work and does not require additional payment.
@zztzgza
@zztzgza 10 ай бұрын
Well you see, people let other companies get away with it so Capcom is also trying to get away with it. The best thing the playerbase can do is not give capcom any money for these things.
@NightFoxZero
@NightFoxZero 10 ай бұрын
That's the way Arcsys handles like all of their games. "Here's color packs". Part of the reason I play almost exclusively on PC is for mods so I can just mod in color palettes are character body swaps
@EnnVP
@EnnVP 10 ай бұрын
In fairness you can pay for colours with in game earnt currency too (are they called drive tickets?), they do give them away with weekly challenges here and there
@blok--head7472
@blok--head7472 10 ай бұрын
Drive tickets or not, there was no excuse why we couldn't just unlock base colors for the default costumes via Arcade mode. Period. All it is, its capcom asking for more money ONTOP of the base 60$, Season Pass, and now these tmnt skins. It's just getting ridiculous.
@dannypatrick9361
@dannypatrick9361 10 ай бұрын
​@@EnnVPWe have been given enough free drive tickets to buy precisely ONE character color. Not color set. One individual colour. In over 2 months. This is greed and people need to call it out.
@KingJaeTV
@KingJaeTV 10 ай бұрын
$15 dollars on the avatar is CRAZY!
@Logix9210
@Logix9210 10 ай бұрын
Tip for anyone who wants to turn off the TMNT theme: Go to your in game "phone" and select music. Create a playlist and then set it as "BGM"
@rchoung34
@rchoung34 10 ай бұрын
shout out to the dood with the budget Raphael outfit lol. clearly people are finding creative ways to make their custom characters look a certain way
@streetkombat6088
@streetkombat6088 10 ай бұрын
I saw that person at the end of the video lol. I'm probably going to buy the Raphael skin but I earned points on a free game app I play to help me get PlayStation cards
@elgranpeyo
@elgranpeyo 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully, capcom will listen and fix these prices. They are 100% missing out on money for being way too greedy.
@Red_Sutter
@Red_Sutter 10 ай бұрын
What's to fix? They're not going to give them to you for free. If people are buying them for 15 each, then that's the answer they're going to get
@DataDrain02
@DataDrain02 10 ай бұрын
They won't. If Pokemon is anything to go by. People will still buy it. And Capcom will just double down on this and this will be the future of DLC costumes.
@yeabih5607
@yeabih5607 10 ай бұрын
@@Red_Sutteryea but nobody is buying them lol
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 10 ай бұрын
@@Red_Sutter I'm not convinced they couldn't be making more if they charged a price that wasn't making a significant portion of the community say "I'd get it, but that's too expensive". It's not like it costs Capcom $10 for the printing company to print your skin and $15 for them to ship it to you from japan, If they sell 10,000 units at 15$ apiece when they could be selling 50,000 units at 5$ each they're losing money. (Edit: to be clear, I'm not saying they should charge 5$ for the skins, but more that I wholeheartedly believe that their high price point is actually losing them money they could be getting if they charged a reasonable price, and that's not even factoring the price capcom is paying in lost goodwill from their customers.)
@TenjinZekken
@TenjinZekken 10 ай бұрын
I can tell you as a Riot games fan, that people Wil, buy 15$ skins 100%. That's definitely too much money, and while I think I can get behind it for a f2p game, because most will only buy a few good skins for the Champs they play over their entire lifetime, and because they have a decent free loot system that gets people 10s of free skins a year, the fact is that people are happy to pay th t price for so,thing they really want# and people weren't going to pay even 5 for something they do t want. People don't look at 5 skins at 5 each and think they'll buy them all just because normally they cost 15 each.
@SaveDatFuture
@SaveDatFuture 10 ай бұрын
I like how taken aback Max is once he sees the Dan Hibiki avatar at the end
@michaellaverty7349
@michaellaverty7349 10 ай бұрын
I was so excited seeing the announcement pop up and the song sounds so cool, but then I saw the prices and I'm a hard no on all of it. It's a shame the pricing problem has overshadowed what should be such a fun crossover.
@CrimsonFIame
@CrimsonFIame 10 ай бұрын
Capcom saw Activision/Blizzard getting away with it and assumed the fighting game community was just as dumb as Activision's community.
@SurvivedKombatants
@SurvivedKombatants 10 ай бұрын
At least in terms of Activision with lets say Call of Duty right. We can compare since it's the same franchise we're dealing with, the Shredder Pack for MW2. You get a really good looking model with little easter eggs all throughout. voice lines for pretty much every action you do, 3 weapon skins (AR, Shotgun, and Blades), vehicle skin, custom execution kill, weapon charm, weapon decal, and emblem, all for $20. Capcom on the other hand has done considerably worse piecemealing everything like the wallpapers, emotes, stickers, frames, and worse of all, skins with no added benefit like voice lines, for... 4x the amount that Activision was asking for with MW2. What's worse is that if you're like me who plays on 2 platforms (PS5 and PC), again, unlike Activision and CoD, nothing you buy is cross platform. So instead of $80 to get everything, it's $160. Js
@kevinellis8017
@kevinellis8017 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, OW2 has $20 skins. That is insane. Just one skin. I know it's free-to-play, but would anyone want to spend $20 on just one skin? Hell no. I've said for awhile the same Max says about a skin being $5 TOPS. Spending $5 on one skin is not too bad for a working adult. I think most people would put down $5 for that.
@DataDrain02
@DataDrain02 10 ай бұрын
I mean, Capcom will probably still double down on these prices. Because if even a few people buy them. That's enough for Capcom to be like "yeah this is a sustainable business model."
@CustomGameNight
@CustomGameNight 10 ай бұрын
Every game has cosmetics like this…. Valorant, apex, overwatch, cod, etc. not that I condone it but
@dddaaa6965
@dddaaa6965 10 ай бұрын
@@CustomGameNight Just because every restaurant serves you the insides of a used toilet it shouldn't mean it's okay or acceptable, you should be glad people are speaking up about this being too much, but then again, I doubt it'll go anywhere or change anything, just like 70 dollar games people will just slowly accept it.
@vhs6495
@vhs6495 10 ай бұрын
I was super stoked to get a Raph costume until I found out they were $15 a turtle. I really hope its just the Nick licensing thats causing these prices cause if all the costumes are priced like this then they definitely wont be doing well imo. Hoping if they do a Mega Man collab then the prices for the costumes would be cheaper
@TheLils15
@TheLils15 10 ай бұрын
So far doubt it because the other outfits put in exclusive to your avatar are more expensive than the turtles. Hopefully capcom chills out with the high prices
@beastfulboy
@beastfulboy 10 ай бұрын
That’s not an excuse, you don’t think NRS had to pay license fees too? Like Max said, those turtles were 10 dollars with unique voice clips for each turtle, all turtles playable, and they actually animate them pretty well. Don’t give capcom and others an inch with an excuse, they’ll run with it and take the mile next time
@Vasu_Bhatnagar
@Vasu_Bhatnagar 10 ай бұрын
If we didn’t have TMNT in INJUSTICE 2 I would like to give Capcom the benefit of the doubt but nah bro, $10 vs $60 is absurd
@demisagoat
@demisagoat 10 ай бұрын
No, it's Capcom being enabled by other games like Apex Legends, Valorant, and Overwatch.
@skyuru
@skyuru 10 ай бұрын
If its a license problem then i hope that they find a less problematic collab (i hope for a SNK collab)
@Dethew
@Dethew 10 ай бұрын
Pay up sheep. Consume, obey, and don't question.
@gameboy3433
@gameboy3433 10 ай бұрын
It really sucks because those costumes and everything around them are actually some of the sickest costumes I have seen for a fighting game like this. But it's so priced up it's absurd.
@unclepaul1995
@unclepaul1995 10 ай бұрын
Just like SFV, Overwatch 2 and all that Greedy Games.
@sethyuikora2
@sethyuikora2 10 ай бұрын
The main issue is that it's only a cosmetic for your custom character. It can't be skinned over Ryu or something. Definitely feels like it should be a battlepass or something. $10-15 and a time investment for all of them.
@prismaticowl
@prismaticowl 10 ай бұрын
Not only that, but didn't it say there are no special stats to the costume? So you aren't even gonna wear it _while_ playing World Tour. It's just something you put on while running around the Hub.
@Xanek
@Xanek 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, outside of the actual character DLCs and playable cast costumes, everything just seems to be kind of... over priced for how little they'll get used. Like I'm sure people would spend that much if it were on the actual characters themselves, but since most of the customization in the game is for the Avatar only, it doesn't seem worth it.
@Silver-Sage-T
@Silver-Sage-T 10 ай бұрын
I all the way agree. I am a HUGE TMNT fan and I was ridiculously excited when I saw this... then I saw the price. I immediately wiped it from my mind because that price is insane. Good job at least one lost customer in me.
@sonyPlaytation
@sonyPlaytation 10 ай бұрын
Lets also not forget, that song is gonna be playing for TWO MONTHS while the collab is on. Thats two MONTHS of “TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES HEROES IN A HALF SHELL TURTLE POWER”
@Eidlones
@Eidlones 10 ай бұрын
I went from being super excited after the announcement at EVO, to just feeling sad for the people that actually bought a costume, cause they got ripped off. You failed at a cross promotion if I feel sad for the people that engaged with it.
@Havel_the_Rock420
@Havel_the_Rock420 10 ай бұрын
No way I'd pay $15 for a skin, should be something you unlock.
@GoCrazy69
@GoCrazy69 10 ай бұрын
For once injustice 2 got the dub on this one for an older game at least at comes full package
@Hausbrauen
@Hausbrauen 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. If we paid full price for the damn game, then all costume parts should be unlocks. This is why I happily stopped supporting most AAA games anymore.
@HolySok
@HolySok 10 ай бұрын
I don't know if Max reads his comments but I wish more content creators would mention the Fightinf Coin system. How it's explicitly designed so you can't just buy the amount of coins you need. For example Rashid's cost forces you to "overpay" for the character. If you only ever bought the DLC characters I think you'd have to buy almost 4 seasons worth of characters until you evened out woth your FC (edit: It's actually 10 characters if you buy the 250 pack 14 times). It's just all so transparently designed to get you into their ecosystem. But I guess it works. I haven't bought Rashid because I feel like I'm being manipulated. Whereas I was happy to pay for Tekken 7's DLC characters because The Value was upfront.
@Kyderra
@Kyderra 10 ай бұрын
For the price of 2 of the TMNT character Cosplays outfits you can get 4 new Street fighter characters.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 10 ай бұрын
Another little gripe I have is that I honestly don't see a reason these had to be full-body costumes. There's a lot of useful pieces here for all us freak fighter fans that we won't be able to use, like a turtle shell for my Master Roshi or SF5 Kappa Honda, the various weapons the turtles carry, the turtles' faces could make great costume pieces for other characters, too, especially if you can recolor them. Naturally there's probably stipulations in the license that keeps this from happening, a "don't do anything that would make our brand look bad" sort of thing, but it still sucks. And yes, $15 for a cosmetic (and a very limited one at that) is a lot to be asking, so even if it was a collection of pieces I still don't think I'd be buying.
@alwaysxnever
@alwaysxnever 10 ай бұрын
Agree. And it is full body or mask. Sure thereare emotes and a song, but I I can't have the weapons on my side? And no other characters? just The turtleS? Shame.
@crowevil4658
@crowevil4658 10 ай бұрын
Injustice 2 gave us all 4 turtles for roughly $10.
@762x69
@762x69 10 ай бұрын
All with custom interactions animations and voice acting
@donkeydarko77
@donkeydarko77 10 ай бұрын
Yup. The SF6 avatar doesn't even get a "Turtle-esque" moveset to battle with. Just a taunt. @@762x69
@nyxranobody3690
@nyxranobody3690 10 ай бұрын
I love that a shooting game gave me four separate melee characters
@TKM20XX
@TKM20XX 10 ай бұрын
This is what I'm worried about with the next generation of monster hunter. Traditionally all bonus costume and collaboration were free, with Rise they started introducing paid hunter cosmetics. Going forward there will no doubt be even more microtransactions with an even more inflated pricing strategy..
@morbidville5316
@morbidville5316 10 ай бұрын
You can get a whole ass check up of your entire body at the doctors for the price of all the turtle skins.
@pac1841
@pac1841 10 ай бұрын
I made the same point about the TMNT in Injustice 2. The value difference versus how much it actually costs is insane. Sadly I think Capcom is trying to copy other games where 20 dollar skins are common.
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 10 ай бұрын
Blizzard charge 20$+ for skins and its angered their entire community. Funny how you don't see the same reaction in fighting games.
@jase276
@jase276 10 ай бұрын
Angered their entire community? People still buy it. I rarely play OW2, only when my friend wants to once in a blue moon since he got it free. So, on the day of the newest battle pass. The day it dropped, not even half a day into it, I see a guy running around with the new hero and rewards from at least halfway into it. That means he not only bought the premium battle pass but paid his way up to at least half of it... DAY ONE. That's around $60.... These people dgaf like you or me. The people buying this shite greatly outnumber the people who don't, which is why companies think they can get away with this and do. @@RichSmithson
@Caboodles69
@Caboodles69 10 ай бұрын
This started happening around the time of MHW, any mainline mh game before that had basically 0 microtransactions and has been slowly infesting capcoms business practices. I get wanting to make more money but its getting to a point where the greed is showing.
@clintgahm1495
@clintgahm1495 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I'm fine with micro transactions to boost the amount of time and effort devs are able to continue putting into the game as long as they're cosmetic only. Monster hunter world is actually a fantastic example of balance imo, almost all the coolest armors, weapons, costumes, and add ons could be earned by completing the associated crossover event quests. For the most part the only thing they actually sold were costumes for the quest girl and weird customizable trinkets, stickers, and poses.
@clintgahm1495
@clintgahm1495 10 ай бұрын
As long as that shit is priced reasonably for what it is, as a general rule of thumb anything cosmetic should never be over 5 bucks.
@Caboodles69
@Caboodles69 10 ай бұрын
@@clintgahm1495 while I agree to some extent, that same line of thinking has become a very slippery slope and led to the modern era of miceotransactions. I'd rather have none if there was a choice.
@clintgahm1495
@clintgahm1495 10 ай бұрын
@JoeyP598 I 100% agree with you fam. I'm a little more sympathetic when it comes to a live service game model where the devs continue working and creating more quality content month after month that keeps the game fresh but the line between sensibly priced and predatory gets blurred so easily when executives are the one's calling the shots.
@clintgahm1495
@clintgahm1495 10 ай бұрын
@JoeyP598 like I said before, Monster hunter world did an exemplary job of this by constantly releasing substantial and innovative crossover event missions with cool meta relevant weapons and armor that was all unlockable through simply enjoying the fun new additions they added. The trinkets, poses, and NPC costumes they sold were all completely ancillary and unnecessary but added a cute way to add a little customizable flare for people that wanted to go the extra mile.
@nguyenquanghonghoa1643
@nguyenquanghonghoa1643 10 ай бұрын
Considering the fact that the Turtule in IJ2 are $10 for all 4 of them (regual DLC fighter are $5) and they all had their own move, intro and gear. I can see why this price would make most ppl think about getting a skin for their ava cause if they buy all 4 that would almost be like buying SF6 a 2nd time
@Mickylitman
@Mickylitman 10 ай бұрын
Capcom: spend $15 for a skin Bandai Namco: spend $6 for a full character + skins Netherrealm: spend $5 for a full character + skins
@Lexicon865
@Lexicon865 10 ай бұрын
He forgot to mention how one DLC character costs like 250 FM Like getting ALL THE DLC CHARACTERS SO FAR with FM is CHEAPER than getting these alts, it's insane
@ColdPika
@ColdPika 10 ай бұрын
Capcom was smoking real good if they thought a vast majority of players would buy the costumes at these prices. I'm with ya max, I'm kinda worried on how future outfits will cost now
@KTC12490
@KTC12490 10 ай бұрын
Not smoking its fair on there part they just need to see the stats of people actually buying ive seen a bunch of people paying for the costume and if people are spending on those prices why change it kinda like loot boxes without the boxes collectible items will always get nerds to spend cash
@ColdPika
@ColdPika 10 ай бұрын
@@KTC12490 truuu
@jasontodd1896
@jasontodd1896 10 ай бұрын
@@KTC12490not fair
@MistaJonz
@MistaJonz 10 ай бұрын
There's also a Street Fighter vs TMNT comic mini series running at the moment and not long ago Playmates released some two packs of modern TMNT figures with Street Fighter figures. This is probably just more of that collaboration.
@BasketCase-rr7tx
@BasketCase-rr7tx 10 ай бұрын
The funniest part was at the very end of the video you could see a glimpse of a guy who just looked like he created a ninja turtle in the character creation. 🤣
@mr.awesome6011
@mr.awesome6011 10 ай бұрын
SF6 made everyone happy with its launch. It makes sense that the problems would come later.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 10 ай бұрын
hoping to monetize everyones happy juices from a fun launch.
@bambabarry
@bambabarry 10 ай бұрын
I Hope the problems stay at the cosmetics and not the game / combat balance I Will 100% take that
@MegaManXPoweredUp
@MegaManXPoweredUp 10 ай бұрын
I was really looking forward to getting the Leonardo costume, his mask, and the Pizza emote, but when I realized how expensive it would all be, I was incredibly disappointed.
@PJmachine
@PJmachine 10 ай бұрын
8:58 "Mom can we have Ninja Turtles??" "We have ninja turtles at home"
@samurae
@samurae 10 ай бұрын
It's odd how companies forgot these kind of content was called long ago: "micro-transactions" supposed to be extra content for cheap and they would just make revenue on the volume of sells. However, the corporate greed added to people with more money than common sense led to an inflation on the prices. I could assume the fault could be in great part for the mobile games, which started ripping off their players with hundreds of dollars, but at least those had the excuse to be free to play games. I think games should have less collectionist angst and more dignity and rehecting to pay overpriced 1s and 0s
@user-zf5oe8po4r
@user-zf5oe8po4r 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@GattlingCombo
@GattlingCombo 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for calling out Capcom on this. The FGC really needs to do this more often. I always get worried that the hype of a game people love so much, especially popular fighters, convince players to spend too much money, or play games, or use characters that aren't that great. *cough* sf5 *cough*. Also max saying Don, and then purple guy who is Don was funny. 😆
@ZenkieTV
@ZenkieTV 10 ай бұрын
The "purple guy" he was talking about was Shredder.
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 10 ай бұрын
It's not gonna change anything, it's only gotten worse. Fact of the matter is that Capcom has become a complete sellout for most part. Quite frankly it's amazing they didn't split up RE4 remake in 2 or 3 separate games.
@123456CBOY
@123456CBOY 10 ай бұрын
Nba 2k do it all the time
@icedcapplord710
@icedcapplord710 10 ай бұрын
Seeing the Turtles themselves being relegated to costumes for your avatar really sucked. Especially since their inclusion in Injustice 2 was handled so well with each member having a lot of custom interactions with the main roster. Would've also killed for a Turtles-themed stage either in their lair or at the Foot Clan etc.
@ComicCrossing
@ComicCrossing 10 ай бұрын
Dude there is no way they woudlve done full characters
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 10 ай бұрын
It's Capcom, they're lazy remember
@purplepineapple7893
@purplepineapple7893 10 ай бұрын
⁠I can't believe someone would say they are lazy after the release of the game.... Are you serious?
@CaptainOso2
@CaptainOso2 10 ай бұрын
Injustice 2 did them so well! But this is one of the few times capcom makes a bad call. They will hear the outrage and fix it for future collaborations. But give me a minster hunter skin I'll buy it right away 😅
@jameshalle558
@jameshalle558 10 ай бұрын
@@ironmaster6496 Lazy bait. This statement would've worked maybe in 2015. Time to come up with a new one.
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 10 ай бұрын
I'm so grateful that you called this out, I don't buy microtransactions alot, I know many people do but to but a price of 15$ just for a costume on a fully paid game that you need to spend somewhere of 30$ a year for new characters is just insane. A custom should not cost more than 0.99$ at most it should be 2$ or 3$ for the most premium. I know we'll never go back of extras being unlocked in game but 15$ is just outrageous.
@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 10 ай бұрын
That budget Rafael cosplay right at the end tho. 😂 ties a pretty ribbon around this whole conundrum.
@SolisOfDreams
@SolisOfDreams 10 ай бұрын
I don't know if Nickelodeon is the reason for the price being so high, but no matter what you say, this is unacceptable and makes me scared for collaboration dlc in the near future. I'm actually scared cause I love TMNT. But now I gotta pay an arm and a leg for all the characters, in this economy? FOR DLC? That's insane.
@renemejias1842
@renemejias1842 10 ай бұрын
Just don't buy it lol
@RandomGuyCDN
@RandomGuyCDN 10 ай бұрын
Price for licensing shouldnt matter considering how much SF6 by itself made in sales. Use all the extra money to pay for all the collabs instead of shoving a bunch of it into suits bonuses (we all know thats how the world works now) this year.
@Dang3rMouSe
@Dang3rMouSe 10 ай бұрын
I gave up on Capcom a few years ago for this type of greed & more they've done. Haven't bought or given them any money since & won't till their company starts thinking about their customer base as human beings.
@DresdenShuffle
@DresdenShuffle 10 ай бұрын
They never will, all you’ll ever be to them is pay pigs. Not just Capcom either, all major video game developers are this way.
@manemiles
@manemiles 10 ай бұрын
You can’t expect people to pay $60 for a full game then try to pull this for the price of skins that are only available for a single player mode
@ThorgisArcade
@ThorgisArcade 10 ай бұрын
Been saying it for a while but Capcom is getting way too into the live service micro transaction realm of AAA games. I'm glad everyone is starting to realize that with these turtle skins but let's not forget they've tried like four times to turn Resident Evil into an online multiplayer competitive game, Exoprimal has battle passes and loot boxes up the wazoo, Mega Man 11 was the best selling Mega Man of all time so rather than getting another game we got a gacha mobile game. These turtle skins are just another step in a long line of greedy practices and I don't think it's just Nickelodeon licensing fees racking up this price.
@kennesu5345
@kennesu5345 10 ай бұрын
For them to be that much they should have put them in a bundle,so you get 4 turtles,3 stages based on the turtle area s they fight or train at(Turtle HQ,Rooftop,Shredder's base),3 other cosmetics (April's yellow overall,Casey's outfit/mask ,Shredder's outfit,or Turtles theme arcade room(shell shaped arcade booth/cabinet or maybe a dojo theme center area for avatar to Duke it out),or some duo emotes or whacky face animation for the main cast. Just if they gonna do some 💩like 15 to 25 dollars,Let that be something worth while Ain't gonna get characters or outfits any time soon(and if so it's gonna be 1 at a time )😂😅
@shawnheatherly
@shawnheatherly 10 ай бұрын
It's a real bummer. I know they've mentioned there's a collab between SF and Spy x Family and I've been so excited for that. Now I'm worried a Yor costume for Chun-Li is gonna costume me more than it really should.
@HashimotoDatsu
@HashimotoDatsu 10 ай бұрын
Come on, what's $15 for a waifu costume? Hell, that's a steal! If they were really thinking, they would charge $30! Chun-li can be used just about everywhere in the game, so it's only fair the price is doubled
@STFUppercut69
@STFUppercut69 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. This is important. Capcom has been doing a lot of things right lately, but every now and then their old Ca$hcom self oozes through.
@MASKED_Spidey
@MASKED_Spidey 10 ай бұрын
Whuddup Max! This is nuts, you and the comments are completely right. I wanted Mikey cause I uses the nunchaku. I'm literally at the shop making life decisions..... Trying to decide if I should get it.
@jblue88hoodgamer54
@jblue88hoodgamer54 10 ай бұрын
I will love to talk to Capcom to asks them to bring back Power Stone.
@oscarortiz1529
@oscarortiz1529 10 ай бұрын
This!!!!!
@Hypno_BPM
@Hypno_BPM 10 ай бұрын
i wish. more like Powerstone 1 fighting style than 2
@metalgamer8179
@metalgamer8179 10 ай бұрын
I genuinely wanted to get them but I’m not so financially irresponsible to buy them at THAT price
@justcallmesiv
@justcallmesiv 10 ай бұрын
yo that guy at the end that made Yujiro Hanma with the smile face on the back props lol that was fire and also funny
@apachegypsy88-98
@apachegypsy88-98 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more Max. As a MK player I havmt bought SF6 yet but when I saw this TMNT pack I was on my way to purchase the game and this pack… until I found out the prices.. I’ll stick with injustice 2 for now and pray we get the Last Ronin as a guest character in MK1
@nectonsebastianborjadimas5232
@nectonsebastianborjadimas5232 10 ай бұрын
Finally, someone says this, I was really happy to be able to use a costume or something really cool, but when I go to the store the price is ridiculous and being Colombian makes it more difficult to get because of the really high price.
@Impalingthorn
@Impalingthorn 10 ай бұрын
Guys, I love this game too and I think Capcom has made a ton of good decisions recently, but they are not immune to greed. And this is straight up greed.
@SansDaManz
@SansDaManz 10 ай бұрын
It really sucks that they're asking THIS much for avatar costumes, because I love the TMNT, and I'd totally be down to buy everything, if the price was reasonable. Now I'm probably just gonna' get the costume for my favorite turtle, and that's it. And even that is something I'm hesitant to do...
@YourCreepyUncle.
@YourCreepyUncle. 10 ай бұрын
Don't do it, don't reward them. instead, just play an actual Turtles game.
@mattdavis4056
@mattdavis4056 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I was sad when I got home and saw what is was going to cost for 4 turtle costumes. I'm also concerned on how limited this and others are going to be in the future.
@johntalmo3632
@johntalmo3632 10 ай бұрын
The biggest issue I have with it all is I can't even use my custom character in the versus mode selection screen so I can fight Ryu as Leonardo
@AlphaProto
@AlphaProto 10 ай бұрын
Capcom must have the prices high, so they can get a bigger cut out of the collaboration.
@janematthews9087
@janematthews9087 10 ай бұрын
What's that negotiating tactic called, where you open the negotiations with an absurd demand that everyone agrees is absurd, but you try and argue that it makes sense...then when everyone is threatening to leave the table, you relent with a "reasonable" compromise that is the actual demand that is still horrible for the other people, but better than the absurd demand that the negotiation started with... 15USD for every skin is unreasonableand it should actually cost something like 5 bucks for each? Okay then, the next 4 costumes will be 9.99, with a "discount" of 1 dollar for buying it in a pack. Everyone's happy with that, right?
@Obelix7701
@Obelix7701 10 ай бұрын
I hope we can buy future collab items with the drive tickets
@Impalingthorn
@Impalingthorn 10 ай бұрын
Everyone at EVO: (Cheers) Everyone seeing the price tags: "Capcom, are you serious right now?"
@streetkombat6088
@streetkombat6088 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@Bobo_1057
@Bobo_1057 10 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of people aren't even talking about the fact that just one of these costumes costs double the price of an ENTIRE DLC CHARACTER!
@IeFrenchGuy
@IeFrenchGuy 10 ай бұрын
Imagine actually spending hard earn money for a costume in sf6. That's crazy.
@flyingthumb7735
@flyingthumb7735 10 ай бұрын
What makes this really interesting is that the indie game Session: Skate Sim had a collaboration for the ninja turtles also, which has skins for all 4 characters, skateboard graphics, apparel AND a Sewer Map and it's free!! How an indie studio can have a significantly better DLC collab and provide it for free is baffling. Plus the year 1 character pass with 4 new playable characters is 30€, half the price of what all 4 turtles is. This makes no sense whatsoever
@YOUFREAKINNERD
@YOUFREAKINNERD 10 ай бұрын
I feel like $5 for each would be fair and if someone wanted to get all 4 that turns out to be $20. Which is pretty damn good for cosmetics! But $60!? Wow.
@Unknownigen
@Unknownigen 10 ай бұрын
Not just that, but if you want all the TMNT collab stuff (stickers, in-game phone wallpapers, emotes, etc.) as well as the costumes, it totals out to $110
@RotaAbyssian
@RotaAbyssian 10 ай бұрын
@@Unknownigen I...I think I just felt my wallet scream in agony. I am so glad I don't have a way to play this game right now, because I could see myself making that terrible decision. $20 for all four brothers as costumes is more than reasonable, but the price of a wholeass videogame for four costumes is ridiculous. I'm even a major shell-head and that price is dumb as hell.
@SonnyBCreative
@SonnyBCreative 10 ай бұрын
In 2023, 20$ is too cheap
@megablueflash1816
@megablueflash1816 10 ай бұрын
Better yet, make it $5 for each turtle. But if you wanted all of them, make it a bundle for like $15 or something. More incentive to pay for it, and you save money if you were gonna get em all anyway.
@thepuppetmaster9284
@thepuppetmaster9284 10 ай бұрын
I don't get why that expensive. Even KT didn't slap $15 for one DOA costume, so i'm not sure why someone at Capcom thinks _"Hey, this TMNT avatar costume should cost $15, 3x time more expensives than one DLC characters!"_ . I was hype when it got announced at EVO and want Mikey costume. But after looking at the price i just like "No thanks Capcom", i rather spend that money for buying Ed and AKI.
@Zetho
@Zetho 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention you can’t turn off that god dammed theme music in the battle hub and play the original SF6 jazzy theme. Unless you tediously unlocked music I’m world tour or battle pass
@foomp
@foomp 10 ай бұрын
When someone's cosplay of Dan in an SF game that doesn't have Dan is far more exciting than actual outfits the game is selling you for $15+.
@khalfanikeme
@khalfanikeme 10 ай бұрын
That's crazy $60. For that price it should be tmnt enemies you can fight. Its like selling it like a whole another game.
@UKRobs
@UKRobs 10 ай бұрын
This is common practice in triple A games these days, develop a skin for a week sell it for a limited time to create some extreme fomo. In Diablo 4 some cosmetic sets cost 25 dollars which is like 33% of the full games base version price. And they do it because it works very well the cost+time to money made ratio is extremely lucrative for the dev and publisher.
@HashimotoDatsu
@HashimotoDatsu 10 ай бұрын
Is it limited time though? Blizzard is a bad company to compare anyone to, given their greed. Besides, Diablo just rolled off of Diablo Immortal z which made them money hand-over-fist. The fact that people were praising Capcom so heavily until this point feels a lot different. A battlepass in any game is a red flag to me, but it's not as if Capcom wasn't already charging insane prices for the avatar costumes. FFXIV is comparable somewhat. Even though most outfits are between $5-10, they are almost always bought in individual parts to allow for some crazy customizations. A non-animated, non-voiced Ninja Turtle costume that is not divisible in any way for a total of $60 to complete the set is so beyond greedy that I think Capcom is the worst offender cutrently.
@Nauibotic
@Nauibotic 10 ай бұрын
$15 for a skin works for a game like League of Legends where there are actual tangible differences (new voice lines, different effects, other cool bonuses) and for the fact that its a f2p game. For the same price of the skins I could buy another whole game, like MK1, and get more bonus for it. In fact, the thing about this being locked to your Avatar an NOT any of the cast means that it's limited to Battle Hub, which only some people will do, and the World Tour (which only can give you so much).
@WhiskeyNixon
@WhiskeyNixon 10 ай бұрын
and why are colors for default costumes sold separately, but if I buy the alternate costume I get 10 colors packed in?
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