Cardo vs Sena - Best Motorcycle Communication Systems of 2018

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FortNine

FortNine

6 жыл бұрын

In 2018, it’s easy to assume that all bluetooth motorcycle communication systems are abundant, astonishing, astounding and A1 on all accounts. But life isn’t that easy. Ryan runs through some of the beauties (and fails) from Cardo and Sena, eh.
Gear Breakdown:
0:27 - Cardo Packtalk Edge [Updated] - frt9.co/bn1l8u
1:32 - Sena 20S EVO Bluetooth Headset - frt9.co/2fayhx
3:33 - Sena 30K Bluetooth Headset - SOLD OUT
5:45 - Cardo Packtalk NEO Headset [Updated] - frt9.co/2g5rcy
7:12 - Cardo Freecom 2X Headset [Updated] - frt9.co/1ak2td
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@Dsparky121
@Dsparky121 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 22 seconds in, and this is already my favorite episode of Letterkenny
@Bankston94
@Bankston94 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Scheer I saw this prior to seeing letterkenny and now after seeing it... I have a whole new appreciation for this.
@therealpewpew2532
@therealpewpew2532 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bankston94 SAME.
@nadrojfan
@nadrojfan 4 жыл бұрын
22 seconds in and I'm still not sure after watching twice if this is in English! 🤦
@utkarshrao4521
@utkarshrao4521 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@TheTypeRTheory
@TheTypeRTheory 6 жыл бұрын
The honesty in these reviews blows all the other bullshit fluff reviews on KZfaq out of the water. Fantastic.
@ridin_low193
@ridin_low193 6 жыл бұрын
GASLIGHT it’s not so much the honest review... well that’s half of it, but more so that he knows what he’s talking about. Well at least it REALLY seems like he did his homework lol.
@TheTypeRTheory
@TheTypeRTheory 6 жыл бұрын
Diego Alvarez I guess it helps when the reviewer has actually used the products :D
@biker1581
@biker1581 6 жыл бұрын
absolutely!!!!!!!!!!! AND HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, lastly, it's damn funny and sarcastic ,,,,, love every bit
@MoneerAl-Jawad
@MoneerAl-Jawad 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree dude. This guy is awesome and exposing a lot of that bullshit fake KZfaq vids.
@kogasoldier9379
@kogasoldier9379 5 жыл бұрын
You did not just do a letterkenny parody. Omfg! 😂
@ShaneTheMan777
@ShaneTheMan777 4 жыл бұрын
koga soldier I love it 😂😂😂
@jlaurcrocker
@jlaurcrocker 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@truthmefree
@truthmefree 4 жыл бұрын
But he did it even better. HILARIOUS!!!
@andrewcelo5099
@andrewcelo5099 3 жыл бұрын
just saw the video. more letterkenney, please.
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you and thank FortNine for introducing me to Letterkenny. Haven't laughed that much in quite a while.
@uxthcman
@uxthcman 2 жыл бұрын
can we get an update to this vid for 2022 plz
@alphatimca6656
@alphatimca6656 2 ай бұрын
24
@pritkapadia9501
@pritkapadia9501 Ай бұрын
2024
@ciccorilla
@ciccorilla Ай бұрын
2024??????
@badshoes
@badshoes Ай бұрын
2024
@listofromantics
@listofromantics 6 жыл бұрын
FortNine has, consistently, some of the best / funniest review videos on KZfaq.
@Eulsam_FZ
@Eulsam_FZ 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite is still when he put the wig on to be King Joffrey
@Visian
@Visian 6 жыл бұрын
Nero Wolfe I think they try too hard to be funny and it compromises the clarity of their work
@Bob-Maplethorpe
@Bob-Maplethorpe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Visian that's why you watch them twice, eh. Hose bag!
@irvingcuevas8877
@irvingcuevas8877 4 жыл бұрын
Now that's a knee slapper!
@TheGholiday
@TheGholiday 4 жыл бұрын
So it’s the Cardo slim?
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Canada Day, eh. Also happy 4th of July... we have that day in Canada too! ~RF9
@JK-qj9qp
@JK-qj9qp 6 жыл бұрын
FortNine Hope you had a great 4th! How's the speaker quality and loudness on the Cardo slim compared to a Sena 10S?
@mattimusreximus
@mattimusreximus 6 жыл бұрын
Just amazing, well done.
@LTT.Official
@LTT.Official 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Canada has a day aye, sorry aboot that, please don't call the mounties.
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
+Tommy Gun Identical, as far as my ears can tell. ~RF9
@ADVRaiderKTM
@ADVRaiderKTM 6 жыл бұрын
At the rate we are going, most sane Americans will be moving to Canada and celebrating the Canada day instead of the 4th....
@sheltonnephin5302
@sheltonnephin5302 5 жыл бұрын
You're a honest fellow and that what I appreciates about you
@fightingcorsair7297
@fightingcorsair7297 5 жыл бұрын
Is that what you appreciate about him?
@averagejer
@averagejer 4 жыл бұрын
Take about 20% off there Shelton.
@cruisingprimate1072
@cruisingprimate1072 5 жыл бұрын
This is an old gold, made me lol Need a 2019 update!
@mbirth
@mbirth 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, with something about how the 30K mesh can break away into two smaller meshes if the wrong person leaves the group. Or how the Packtalk Slim is not that comfortable if you have multiple helmets and want to switch between them.
@32carus
@32carus 4 жыл бұрын
@@mbirth Wouldn't it be a problem for all comms, not just the Packtalk Slim?
@mbirth
@mbirth 4 жыл бұрын
@@32carus The "big" Packtalk has a helmet mount where you attach the actual comm unit to. So if you have multiple helmets, you just buy more of these mounts (~$50-70) and attach the base unit to whatever helmet you want to use with one click. The Packtalk Slim isn't detachable. You could maybe fiddle around with the microphone/headphone connections, but you'd have to do cable management afterwards and also I'm not sure how sturdy that microphone connector actually is.
@Juuul89
@Juuul89 4 жыл бұрын
Ther'e no reason to, neither has come with a new product. Cardo's still on top
@Keka-vg3ut
@Keka-vg3ut 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbirth that's also what I thought but if you're like most people who have one bike or more likely one helmet if your 2nd bike isn't a Enduro it's not a problem But it's definitely a consideration I didn't understand why the comm and the microphone and headphones aren't seperated but I guess otherwise no one would buy the bold
@MOTOTREK
@MOTOTREK 6 жыл бұрын
Great unbiased review, Ryan. Well shot too!
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@crazykaspmovies
@crazykaspmovies 6 жыл бұрын
letterkenny, nice reference
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Speedy spot. ~RF9
@Bandy64
@Bandy64 6 жыл бұрын
“To be fair” , I like and use the Cardo.
@Benzal82
@Benzal82 6 жыл бұрын
Just watched it for the first time... Brilliant lol
@militantaudacity378
@militantaudacity378 6 жыл бұрын
my guys
@matthewfasl6000
@matthewfasl6000 6 жыл бұрын
A bit less reference and a tad more homage ;) But whatever you call it, damn good review as always.
@johntaylor1341
@johntaylor1341 5 жыл бұрын
Great video review! I use to be a hard core Sena guy but now I am a Cardo guy. I use comms almost every day with either my woman or with friends. Last I had from Sena was the 30k and also the older 20s but only because others also had Sena comm units. I thought the Sena worked rather well but then somebody told me to try out the new Cardo PackTalk Bold series. So my lady and I sold our 30k set after watching videos and reading reviews. Just an FYI, we honestly think the 20s were better then the 30k. Anyway, we bought the new Packtalk Bold duo set. All I can say is bravo to Cardo! For starters the two Cardo Packtalk bold comm units were already meshed together out of the box, so they were ready to use instantly and we did use them instantly with no changes or updates on the first day. I love the fact that they are completely silent if nobody is talking, like seriously just plain no road noise and nothing until someone speaks (at first thought they were broke, lol). The app is awesome too, but almost too many features and let's not get into all of the voice commands too, lol. I could rave about many other things but let's just say Cardo won my lady and I over to Cardo from Sena. Oh and Yes you can get a Cardo PackTalk bold to talk to a Sena 30k too. Cardo has been around a long time tons of Harley riders use them daily. Just an FYI, our local rider groups are mostly sport bike riders, so with any comm unit they can get noisy after 100mph, but for cruising the Cardo is super quiet.
@pnoyryder68
@pnoyryder68 2 жыл бұрын
Best comparison of the 2 leading comm units by far 👏. Now if they can only all play nice and create an "indiscriminate" mesh system that accepts all regardless of race, creed, motorcycle brand etc..then we'll all be winners! Hope you get a chance to review the upcoming 50s series from Sena this year (their answer to Cardos' Pactalk)
@road_king_dude
@road_king_dude Жыл бұрын
😂😂 👏
@nef4ri0us68
@nef4ri0us68 6 жыл бұрын
4:00 quuuuite the conversation 🤣
@ryannagy3627
@ryannagy3627 6 жыл бұрын
I am always blown away by how fantastic every single video from Fortnine is! No matter what the content they keep it funny, engaging, honest and informative! I hope they never stop!!! :)
@MrSpri1167
@MrSpri1167 5 жыл бұрын
I can't say enough about this review! Great job! One best of all reviews I have ever seen period. All of your reviews/videos are great! Fantastic job man! You even had my wife laughing who could care less about motorcycles. I'm sold on Cardo.
@bertadelaudebri7179
@bertadelaudebri7179 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent comprepensive, yet simple and humorous, review of these motorsports communication devices. Thanks as you made my decision in this regard so much more easier!
@dillonchadsteinke
@dillonchadsteinke 6 жыл бұрын
Most Canadian review ever. Figer it out bud!
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, figer it oot. ~RF9
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 6 жыл бұрын
Eh? Hoser! Meet up at Tim Horton’s.
@meder07
@meder07 5 жыл бұрын
Timmies! Best worst coffee but a Canadian icon so grab your double -double and ride on!
@rookie__pilot
@rookie__pilot 6 жыл бұрын
Bro i just had surgery and your accent was just making me laugh in pain fml
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Apologies! Hope you feel better soon. ~RF9
@user-hk7fs6fk2w
@user-hk7fs6fk2w 3 жыл бұрын
@@FortNine ever the Canadian
@carlosebner5852
@carlosebner5852 4 жыл бұрын
The editor/director of this thing is a freaking genious!
@txkid1818
@txkid1818 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan...you bring reviews to a whole new level....funny, informative and flipp'n straight atch'a. Love it!
@Dylzhaar
@Dylzhaar 5 жыл бұрын
I want this character back for the 2019 update
@UnleadedApe
@UnleadedApe 5 жыл бұрын
Best KZfaq Motovlogger Ever - Thanks Again Ryan!
@Hebron666
@Hebron666 4 жыл бұрын
The Letterkenny homage just made me love this channel infinitely more!
@wandererscott
@wandererscott 6 жыл бұрын
Only one criticism! You put out this video the day after I ordered the Sena 20s evo! Now I have to return it. I ordered the Packtalk Slim!
@AntiParallali
@AntiParallali 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO This is the best thing on the internet. I have the 20S now (used to have the Sena SMH5) and honestly, I'm not that impressed. Sound quality is worse on the 20S (imo) than on their 1947 model, the SMH5. I was thinking about upgrading to the Evo thinking that it might be better but after seeing this video I think I will have to give Cardo a try. I didn''t even know about Cardo until this video, so THANK YOU! :D
@HenriqueSpagnol
@HenriqueSpagnol 6 жыл бұрын
I love your Instagram! Keep the great work!
@DFWKen
@DFWKen 6 жыл бұрын
Go to Cardo. I did 2 years ago. Communications between up to 6 of us riding/touring buddies was a huge relief after putting up with Sena for 3 years. We got tired of the Sena 20S drumbeat/popcorn sounds that absolutely drove us crazy on 3 trips with 20S units. My whole group changed over.
@ostmen_draugr
@ostmen_draugr 6 жыл бұрын
Sena SMH (shake my head) lol
@AntiParallali
@AntiParallali 6 жыл бұрын
pyruleanfire demon LOL! Yeah I agree...
@ADVRaiderKTM
@ADVRaiderKTM 5 жыл бұрын
"1947 model" hahahahahah
@trantem
@trantem 6 жыл бұрын
I love my Packtalk. They recently simplifed the control scheme with an update which was nice. I couldn't live without the voice activation. Definitely my favourite purchase of 2016.
@WigglesNation
@WigglesNation 5 жыл бұрын
LOVED The Letterkenny style video. you've become my favorite motorbike talker hands down
@larrysfirewood
@larrysfirewood 5 жыл бұрын
This is the most fun review of yours I have watched; it's got tonnes of info and is hilarious too. Love it. Watching you from Kenya
@justinhalsall4077
@justinhalsall4077 6 жыл бұрын
So happy you did this. I think I’ve seen 90% of all of the KZfaq reviews and read just about all of the marketing fluff I could find on this. This video gives me the hours of research in just 8 minutes. Also only downside I found to the Cardo was its clunky two Bluetooth connections maximum
@oOBRIGHTY84Oo
@oOBRIGHTY84Oo 6 жыл бұрын
Another superb review! So glad I went with the packtalk, the DMC mode just dominates!
@CowboyX1000
@CowboyX1000 6 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. You have a great way of making the mundane entertaining. And the Letterkenny opening style was a nice touch.
@wiisterbation
@wiisterbation 5 жыл бұрын
If the opening is a Letterkenny reference I love this channel even more.
@jacksonlee2279
@jacksonlee2279 5 жыл бұрын
Can confirm
@FlaviaPitariu
@FlaviaPitariu 6 жыл бұрын
You made my Google react when you said okay Google lol!
@mobilestew9294
@mobilestew9294 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@dougelick8397
@dougelick8397 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, me too.
@OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO
@OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO 6 жыл бұрын
he made mine react but mine knows my voice so it said voice not recognized lol
@FlaviaPitariu
@FlaviaPitariu 6 жыл бұрын
OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO you can calibrate it? I never bothered with doing that
@OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO
@OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO 6 жыл бұрын
Flavia Pitariu yep now its called voice match i think you got to find in the google assistant settings
@Bartimeus761
@Bartimeus761 5 жыл бұрын
5:15 "and thirdly? " "and thirdeeeeeey... " ahahahhahahhaha
@Hacky2447
@Hacky2447 Жыл бұрын
Not a single “figure it out..” but still my most fav video yet.
@chiefkeith5641
@chiefkeith5641 5 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite skit from this channel
@caprimaniac01
@caprimaniac01 5 жыл бұрын
I did buy the Cardo Packtalk Slim after seeing many videos, and especially this one, end of a August 2018. This unit worked more or less fine (although I had to factory reset it twice and the comm setup with others was a challenge ) for a month an a half, until it simply died. Drove to the office in the morning and had the thing turned on (so working fine), just to not be able to turn it back on for the way back home. Sent it back to the reseller and got a new one. Mounted it, set it up. Worked fine for the first 200km (it was pouring down), then its artificial intelligence came to life. Functions that weren't triggered did spontaneously activate (like the radio) unable to shut these down. Communication with the mobile phone, the TomTom and the other fellow riders, who I was leading fir a 1600km Tour continued to break up. Until I only heard the radio on which no station was neither selected nor selectable, so just some white noise. Did I mention that the Cardo did no longer respond to any keys commands and that I couldn't switch the unit off? Arrived at the very first hotel (after detaching the speakers because of the radio noise I couldn't turn off) I let the Cardo die of battery (because you cannot unplug the battery) before recharging it in order to do a factory reset. It kept working for yet another 2 hours before having again comm issues. Factory Reset. Not much of an improvement. So I decided to turn it off and let it turned off for the remaining 1000km. Arrived at home I unmounted everything and sent it straight back to the reseller for a refund. I will never buy Cardo again.
@megacitygu8356
@megacitygu8356 5 жыл бұрын
I bought three Cardo units to communicate with another rider and my pillion. Endless issues with connectivity. I was only ever able to speak to my pillion once, despite factory resets, Bluetooth resets etc. Switched to Sena and problems solved. It’s telling that Schuberth and Shoei switched from Cardo to Sena ...
@practicallyprinz
@practicallyprinz 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan-"okay google" My Google assistant-"mmmyes?"
@dr_chunkloader6196
@dr_chunkloader6196 4 жыл бұрын
Same😂😂😂
@olegyd
@olegyd 6 жыл бұрын
That was really cool man! You so experienced about to make this kind of videos for a years, its looks very natural! Good jokes, good review and good picture!!!!
@chancebranham5237
@chancebranham5237 8 ай бұрын
i watch this at least once a year this is my fav way you have ever done a video.
@motorcityoctane6713
@motorcityoctane6713 4 жыл бұрын
My communication system 🖐️= Wave for letting me merge ✌️ = Low peace sign to my fellow riders 🖕 = To cars that don't pay attention & drive me off the road
@dirkevans4531
@dirkevans4531 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job as usual Ryan and as always.,,, entertaining. Don’t know if Cardo offered JBL speakers in 2018 but they do now in 2019 and I believe they still had a larger speaker than Sena even before adding the JBL option. Bought a Cardo Packtalk with the JBL option last month and I’m extremely pleased with the sound. Cheers
@winston11381
@winston11381 6 жыл бұрын
This is now my new favorite channel. You nailed, NAILED this!
@Curtis.Carpenter
@Curtis.Carpenter 5 жыл бұрын
love this channel... consistently the best around. every new release on videos gets me stoked to get home and check it out
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 6 жыл бұрын
+1 LetterKenny Love my Packtalk, period. Once you've experienced a unit that has no "noticeable" delay, Bluetooth is obsolete. Occasionally I've experienced a connection issue and the button sequences are insane, but once you get the hang of it, it just works. Cell call quality while riding I'm told is as good as any normal call. Winner in my book. Slim ups the ante.
@maikeli7
@maikeli7 5 жыл бұрын
Nite Runnr Hi, I’ve a dumb question: can the Cardo talk with Sena? I’m thinking of going Cardo, but everyone I know is (unhappily) on Sena.
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 5 жыл бұрын
Maikeli7 Sorry, but I don’t know the answer to this one. Cardo will allow you to connect to older Bluetooth headsets, (likely only other Cardo) and you can also add a rider via cellphone to the “mesh” group. It’s very sweet.
@John_Ridley
@John_Ridley 5 жыл бұрын
@@maikeli7 From the Amazon page, a user response to this question: The Cardo Systems website says you will need a Cardo Gateway to connect with other brands sets... Check at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6mce8poxNO-mX0.html
@HDFoxra
@HDFoxra 5 жыл бұрын
You said "Hey Siri" and my Google Home woke up and said "I'm flattered you mistook me for Siri, but I'm not her. I did write her a poem though!" and proceeded to read me her poem lmao
@evana9657
@evana9657 2 жыл бұрын
I have just recently found this gem, I have watched most of Ryan's videos and as soon as this started it screamed Letterkenny. I had to watch it twice since I was laughing through the first run.
@catmanflorida8545
@catmanflorida8545 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are too funny. I love your reviews. Problem is--- I have to watch them several times cause I'm laughing so damn hard, I miss parts of it. Keep it up please. !!!!
@MrPtholt
@MrPtholt 6 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting that of all the channels i watch they all rate sena comms over anything else, by some amazing coincidence they also receive shiny new boxes and take great pleasure unboxing them and waxing lyrical about how great they all work and its the best on the market blah, blah, blah. Only two channels (of the many) i follow rate cardo higher than sena...... welcome to the wonderful world of vloggers being given freebies and being (or forced into) giving them great reviews in exchange for free stuff, kinda says it all about youtube reviews really...
@marcellipp282
@marcellipp282 5 жыл бұрын
but just the thing that cardo doesnt support wifi mesh is a completely no go on that price range! then you can just buy a freedconn intercom, save money, and all is fine
@ironhorserider1066
@ironhorserider1066 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a cordo and loving it
@ckjlgp
@ckjlgp 4 жыл бұрын
found this out the expensive way , cardo pack talk slim is junk !
@MrPtholt
@MrPtholt 4 жыл бұрын
chris peterson funny you say that as my impression of the slim is the same as yours... been back under warranty twice, can’t hear it over 30mph, keeps cutting out when connected tho i notice all the people loving cardo are actually not running the slim
@ckjlgp
@ckjlgp 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Holt , yes true , my mates are using the bold and don’t seem to be having problems and yes I’ve sent mine back twice as well, mine won’t turn on and on the very odd occasion it does it won’t turn off so I’m figuring that it’s the button with the phone emblem and in the UK they aren’t repairing them due to covid ! If they weren’t paying these influences so much money they might be cheaper! God I hate technology
@BelowZero
@BelowZero 6 жыл бұрын
This is a next level production ... and btw Cardo all the way!
@warner6495
@warner6495 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for that best of 2019 to drop. Holidays coming up!!
@theghost75
@theghost75 4 жыл бұрын
Your humor is always spot on, helpful vid as always, and class-act presentation. Nailed it on the mannerisms. I just bought the cardo-slim. Glad to see we're on the same page.
@RoyalLobotomy
@RoyalLobotomy 5 жыл бұрын
The Fortnine/Letterkenny cross over is the greatest anime cross over of..well ever
@Lady_highrock
@Lady_highrock 6 жыл бұрын
A fan of LetterKenny I see. I
@marylynfenton7178
@marylynfenton7178 5 жыл бұрын
Love this no bull straight to the point helpful video. Surprised one of these two companies don't snatch you up for commercials. Great Job.
@mikeguitarification
@mikeguitarification 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw this for the first time, and while the review is outdated, the video was awesome. I was laughing out loud. Keep it up Ryan and crew.
@Jubular
@Jubular 5 жыл бұрын
Subbed, you're worth it.
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 6 жыл бұрын
That's an enviable collection of flannel you got there, mister.
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
You ain't seen the half of it. ~RF9
@roberteshelman5917
@roberteshelman5917 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video was informative, funny, and produced in a very professional manner. Clap, clap, clap. Well done!
@thomasschmitz3765
@thomasschmitz3765 6 жыл бұрын
Again, a fantastic video, and a review that is entertaining to watch, helpful and unbiased. Great job, again.
@TimeHarmonic
@TimeHarmonic 6 жыл бұрын
sickest flow buddy Letterkenney and F9 is the best combo
@TheDervMan
@TheDervMan 6 жыл бұрын
I own a Cardo Freecom 2 and a Sena 20S (don't ask). The Freecom has easier to use buttons and a better app, the Sena is more reliable. For instance roughly 1 in 5 times when switched on the Freecom doesn't connect correctly via bluetooth, I have to reboot the freecom. I raised a support ticket with Cardo and they said it was a iOS bug and were generally very uninterested in helping. I've never had the same problem with the Sena (same phone). The killer feature for me is Parallel Audio Streaming but that no longer works and has been removed from the iOS app on the Freecom. It works perfectly on Sena, they call it Multitasking. I'd summarise by saying if you're an iPhone user avoid the Freecom, buy the Sena instead. Good point about the mount, my Freecom feel off while on the move and got crushed, Cardo couldn't care less so now I'm a Sena customer!
@BossmanRich28
@BossmanRich28 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVED this video. Very humorous and engaging man. Kept me interested all the way ASIDE from the review. Wish i saw this video before buying my Sena 30k 😭.
@HaulinAssAssin
@HaulinAssAssin 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan this has to be my favorite video you’ve made to date. 😂👍👍
@jagjiwanphul7061
@jagjiwanphul7061 5 жыл бұрын
After extensive research on Revzilla, other Amazon reviews, and various motorcycle forums I had dwindled my decision down to two products; the SENA 10S and the Cardo Packtalk BOLD. I decided to buy the 10S initially due to the overwhelming positive reviews available. Thus I will often reference Cardo since most interested buyers compare these two products and since I now own a Cardo Packtalk BOLD. SUMMARY IS 2ND LAST PARAGRAPH FOR YOU LAZY PEOPLE. Installation for this product is extremely easy and similar to other Bluetooth units. The build quality of the clamp and the Bluetooth unit are extremely durable for my riding conditions (although I have not ridden in rain). The section of the unit that mounts to the helmet won’t budge; additionally the Bluetooth unit’s locking mechanism is very secure. Jog dial has a nice feel with small resistance notches helping you indicate whether you’ve actually moved the dial. 5/5 stars for mechanical design. The ergonomics are too complex for me. It was difficult to use the jog dial while riding. There are too many order of operations to remember. Additionally it can be difficult to locate the jog dial while riding. I applaud SENA for providing all these options but I just found it too confusing. Of course my judgement is clouded by Cardo’s impeccable ergonomic design and this is primarily due to the voice command available in the Cardo Packtalk BOLD. Although there are more buttons on the Cardo, I never use them other than turning the device on and off because everything I need can be done through voice command which makes it a more efficient device that increases safety. Voice commands are so nice . 3/5 for ergonomics Rider to rider connection on the Sena 10S is garbage and a complete nightmare. My buddy and I rode to Yosemite and we disconnected around bends and mountains multiple times (which is expected). But I guess around one bend the 10S did not want to reconnect so we pulled over in a parking lot to try and manually reconnect (note my friends device was also a SENA product, I believe it was the SMH10). After about 15-20 minutes of trial and error, we gave up and continued with our trip. We went on our hike and came back to the same issue of a failure to connect devices. It turned out that the SENA application on my phone was causing the issue because after deleting it we were able to connect. However even connecting with my phone is a hassle sometimes, it doesn’t auto-connect with previously paired devices. I’ve never had this problem with the Cardo Packtalk BOLD. It instantly pairs with my phone as soon as I turn it on; additionally it seamlessly pairs with other Cardo devices even while I have the application on my phone, imagine that! My friend and I did a similar trip and we disconnected multiple times around bends and we connected back up every time. Thus Bluetooth/wireless connection technology is garbage on the SENA. This experience paired with another (which I’ll discuss below) was the reason I returned this product to Amazon. 1/5 for Bluetooth connectivity The audio from rider to rider is pretty clear and does a good job of cutting out wind and exhaust noise. Music audio is also clear and can be heard at 80+ mph, although not really with ear plugs. The audio is extremely tinny in the 10S, no bass whatsoever. The output of the speakers can best be described as if someone put on your music at one end of a speaking tube at your local park and blasted it to you while you listened on the other end. Additionally there was a lot of static/unwanted noise from my speakers. I couldn’t determine if it was from pinched wires that ran from the unit to my speakers, or if it was just a shitty electronic design where they decided to cheap out on some filters. All in all, it was extremely annoying to constantly listen to this buzz. Cardo’s speakers on the other hand are WAY better than the ones provided with the SENA unit, granted they are JBL. But trust me, there is a significant improvement is the crispness and bass quality. There is no clipping or distortion at maximum volume. I’m positive the speakers are rated for a higher wattage than what the unit can output. I wear earplugs on long commutes and average a speed between 75-85 mph and I can hear clear muffled music. I'm also able to place voice commands at those speeds, meaning the Cardo does a great job of discerning irrelevant noise, but the SENA did this just as well when I was on comms with my friend. Additionally the Cardo comes with a standard auxiliary plug allowing you to disconnect the speakers if you wish. SENA uses a hardline integrated connected meaning you can’t disconnect the speakers from the bluetooth unit, which I believe was the source of the constant crackling in my speakers. 1/5 for Audio Quality Basically what I found was, a lot of the functions are the same between the two products, but Cardo just one-ups SENA in each category. There are a couple added benefits in the Cardo such as voice command and sound quality. However what you are paying for is the ease of use. I’ve owned the Cardo for a few months now, and never fidget with it. I get on my bike, turn on my device and it starts to work flawlessly immediately. When I had the SENA, I was always messing around with it trying to readjust the volume, reconnect my phone, etc. I didn’t expect a big difference from the sound either in the Cardo but boy was I wrong, it’s a night and day difference. If you are on the fence about buying a SENA 10S or a Cardo Packtalk BOLD I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE YOU TO BUY THE CARDO PALKTALK BOLD. Right now the 10S is listed for around $211, while the Cardo Packtalk BOLD JBL is listed at $248; a difference of $37. Hopefully you have friends because if you do, convince one of them to split the cost with you on the Packtalk BOLD JBL duo set (its cheaper). Or buy both, try both and bite the bullet when returning the other, I guarantee you’ll keep be the Packtalk BOLD. Overall 2/5 for 10S Comment if you want me to review anything else about these two products, I’ll do my best. Thanks for reading.
@hazelbell6984
@hazelbell6984 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Do you happen to anything about pairing cross brand. Like how can you talk to your friend with the Sena that you use a pack talk
@calebporter4938
@calebporter4938 5 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do a best communication system for 2019 ? Also what would u recommend for great music with occasional communication use?
@sulos4646
@sulos4646 5 жыл бұрын
CARDO Headset PACKTALK BOLD 2019 JBL-Sound DMC-Interkom
@lukemountford3093
@lukemountford3093 5 жыл бұрын
The only review I’ve seen where I’ve been in stitches laughing. Great review 👍🏻😂
@themetabaron8722
@themetabaron8722 5 жыл бұрын
dude thank you, finally looking to get a sena or cardo and you just made sense of everything for me!
@mannysalazar1124
@mannysalazar1124 4 жыл бұрын
Bro you gonna do a 2019 best Bluetooth video or has much change since 2018?
@delbertwinapeg
@delbertwinapeg 5 жыл бұрын
That's a Texas-sized 10-4 good buddy!
@alraimond9784
@alraimond9784 2 жыл бұрын
I like your attitude/way of explaining and joking, makes the video a lot more enjoyable to watch. Nice 👍✌️
@Ghazanfierce
@Ghazanfierce 3 жыл бұрын
I just came here in late 2020 to enjoy the goldmine of a video RyanF9 makes :D :D What a guy, What a team...
@TheJerseyBiker
@TheJerseyBiker 6 жыл бұрын
Hiya Ryan that is probably the funniest comparison review I have ever seen, but just to clarify while I wipe away the tears... For someone who will be travelling around the world in all kinds of weather you are recommending Cardo?? 🤣
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. It might still go kaput (unlikely) but Cardo will replace it if so. Doing a round-the-world ride? ~RF9
@TheJerseyBiker
@TheJerseyBiker 6 жыл бұрын
Yes mate... I set off next June from Jersey in the Channel Islands, hence "The Jersey Biker". Do you use facebook?
@benclimo461
@benclimo461 6 жыл бұрын
The Jersey Biker I've used my sena 10c in basically every weather exept from snow and ice and it still works fine after 4 years.
@TweakedTay
@TweakedTay 6 жыл бұрын
But the 20S does have voice command.... You just say 'Hello Sena' and off she goes...? Works on mine at least.... Most excellent Letterkenny references though, guys. Not at all soft.
@bloodymarvelous4790
@bloodymarvelous4790 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you gotta say Seena, not Senna, so it makes sense it didn't work for RyanF9.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 6 жыл бұрын
It's obviously not Canadian-compatible. "Zee" will work but it will flunk on "Zed".
@taybeltz
@taybeltz 6 жыл бұрын
There is a massive difference between “voice command” and “natural voice operation” that the Packtalk Bold /slim have. Voice command is a multi-step workflow in order to get anything done, natural voice is truly hands free like Alexa, Google, or “J.A.R.V.I.S.”. If you’re looking to utilize your voice over controlling by hand, the Packtalk Bold /Slim are your only option for a great experience. As Motogeek Freak stated above: "With the Packtalk Bold/Slim: You: “Hey Cardo, next track” Packtalk: Done. There is nothing else on the market like that.
@frogclip1
@frogclip1 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best motorcycle related videos on KZfaq!
@_-Ruki-_
@_-Ruki-_ 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos always fill me with knowledge and smiles :)
@korjalgil5433
@korjalgil5433 5 жыл бұрын
1:18 made my google come out. 😂
@sniglom
@sniglom 5 жыл бұрын
What about audio quality from speakers and microphone? Riding down the highway with earplugs it's important with high volume AND clarity. When talking to your friend a good microphone improves the situation.
@kitsachie.
@kitsachie. 5 жыл бұрын
i own the original packtalk and the audio from both ends was fine, the newer models come with jbl audio speakers but mine hasnt come in yet so i cant speak from experience yet.
@zenlasurfer
@zenlasurfer 6 жыл бұрын
I have to give to fortnine, production and presentation of real info is above par, well done
@zemquoi
@zemquoi 5 жыл бұрын
I just love the way your brain works Guy! Another awesome production.
@monarka12
@monarka12 6 жыл бұрын
I love these videos but damn I miss the bike reviews :(
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Got one coming next week, if that eases your pain! ~RF9
@monarka12
@monarka12 6 жыл бұрын
FortNine Can't wait 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@gat1817
@gat1817 6 жыл бұрын
FortNine I don't know the availability of it in Canada but I'd be interested in your opinion on the Royal Enfield classic 500! It's a cracking and underrated A2 license starter bike here in Europe
@TheNinjamechanic1
@TheNinjamechanic1 6 жыл бұрын
He did one recently on the Triumph T100 as a poke at Ducati.
@KentRodgman
@KentRodgman 6 жыл бұрын
Please be the KTM 1090 Adventure.... I'm pretty much holding off on buying one until I see your opinion of it haha
@fhansen
@fhansen 5 жыл бұрын
any chance to get an update of this since sena brought out the +Mesh this year?
@cxns155
@cxns155 5 жыл бұрын
Still Cardo. Why pay for a non-waterproof, bluetooth unit that will require an adapter for mesh? Buy the Cardo and spare yourself the hassle.
@fhansen
@fhansen 5 жыл бұрын
@@cxns155 completely see your point from a rational angle but it's hard for Germans not to follow instructions. Shoei manhandled me into getting the SRL2 so all is lost and I've already ordered the +Mesh. Part of me is happy that everything will be nice and snugly fitted into its preallocated slots. The other part is ashamed...
@freedomisntfree131
@freedomisntfree131 Жыл бұрын
As always, thanks for the laughs (and the content, of course).
@mocat24
@mocat24 5 жыл бұрын
Great review bud, thats whats I's appreciates abouts ya's. Someone get this guy a Puppers 🍻
@PhantomRides
@PhantomRides 6 жыл бұрын
I have no friends
@VAALLDDOO2
@VAALLDDOO2 6 жыл бұрын
Phantom Rides fuck off
@elcucuygarage
@elcucuygarage 5 жыл бұрын
I'll be your riding buddy 👌
@igloo8439
@igloo8439 5 жыл бұрын
I have no friends that ride so Freecom, here I come.
@mikeylikesit6588
@mikeylikesit6588 5 жыл бұрын
Cardo solo for you
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 5 жыл бұрын
.....SAME HERE.
@ehart34
@ehart34 5 жыл бұрын
I defiantly prefer the cardo over sena. I own both!
@hermanjonsson9994
@hermanjonsson9994 5 жыл бұрын
How does the audio volume/quality compare??:)
@ehart34
@ehart34 5 жыл бұрын
@@hermanjonsson9994 the volume is plenty loud enough, offers a like speed feature in the volume controls as an option so it can automatically up the volume to accommodate for wind and engine noise as well as lower it's self when your stopped really you don't notice this because it's just enough. Also cardo offers units with jbl speakers sena can't beat that!
@nicolomarchillo4451
@nicolomarchillo4451 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely*
@brackneypechacek3494
@brackneypechacek3494 2 жыл бұрын
Bro…. Your videos save me so much money. Love the content
@MidnightSportster
@MidnightSportster 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, i went with the slim and i LOVE IT.
@hayabusaTravels
@hayabusaTravels 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Chinese set for 3 years now. $70. Heavy rain, sun... you name it! Still works fine and I get 10hours per charge. Why would I pay extra for a sena or whatever?
@Rhyme905
@Rhyme905 6 жыл бұрын
really nigga? sun is a plus? lmao but seriously you pay for the mesh network and software compatability
@benclimo461
@benclimo461 6 жыл бұрын
hayabusaTravels the only reason i got my sena is that it has a camera other wise I don't see the point in getting an expensive one unless you ride with lots of riders, but im certain that a Chinese brand has done this for 10th of the price.
@sooriyah007
@sooriyah007 6 жыл бұрын
Thats true! I had one too. Upgraded to the Sena 3S which was $100 for the better sound quality and battery life. These fancier ones are not that financially practical for day to day use unless you ride with groups regularly
@benclimo461
@benclimo461 6 жыл бұрын
Driveformer i used to have one that worked amazing. Freecom i think it was. Got it off ebay.
@hayabusaTravels
@hayabusaTravels 6 жыл бұрын
I don't ride with music on, or need a phone connected. Or GPS for that matter! I just need the intercom function to permanently talk to my passenger. I get 10 hours one them. What more battery life do you need? Sound is good up to 100km/h depending on your helmet and how much wind is outside. My wife was in front of the elevator at 4th floor and wile I was waiting her in the parking lot. We heard eachother fine. The only issue I have with the Lexin RX6 is the antennas. While caring the helmet in you hand, you need to be careful not to hit stuff.
@brandonrides8953
@brandonrides8953 5 жыл бұрын
Got a Cardo Slim JBL to replace my 20S :)
@QTALISCHILL
@QTALISCHILL 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the verdict? Was it the right move?
@zayvictory1901
@zayvictory1901 6 жыл бұрын
New to this channel and I thought it said FortNite n I was like OMG I can't escape it!!! Lol great vid man
@frvanderburg
@frvanderburg 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vlogging, humor and techy smart stuff combined, thnx. ;)
@OKMotorcu
@OKMotorcu 6 жыл бұрын
It feels like SENA has a bigger portion of the market under control. Do you think that's because all the motovloggers use it or because of the bigger buttons..
@kinkinhood
@kinkinhood 6 жыл бұрын
OK Motorcu I'd say likely. Sena and gopro got in bed together pretty early and you can easily pull microphone pickup from the sena to the gopro. Honestly if it wasn't for the point everyone I ride with uses sena I'd likely have gone cardo
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Better timing, I think. Sena had a dominant product line and pricing 5-10 years ago, which is when everyone got on board with comms. Now they're floating on that reputation / brand loyalty. ~RF9
@kinkinhood
@kinkinhood 6 жыл бұрын
FortNine it's similar to how gopro has the lions share of the market for action cams despite the Sony ones being built better and less drag when it's on the side of your helmet. Hey Fort nine, ever thought of doing an action cam comparison? Do a comparison between the top of the line Garmin one, the top of the line gopro, and the top of the line Sony unit?
@eveRide
@eveRide 6 жыл бұрын
Sena gave a LOT of headsets away to motovloggers. Almost anybody who asked could get one. Like Ryan says at the end of the video, you get what your friends get. The first gen Senas were great, then came the "planned obsolescence" firmware updates. Cardo makes a far better unit now IMO.
@OKMotorcu
@OKMotorcu 6 жыл бұрын
Should've asked for one back in the day.
@linwoodchatten6623
@linwoodchatten6623 5 жыл бұрын
Had the smart pack and got the bold this year at Daytona. Another great part about Cardo is that they have firmware updates that make the smart pack into a pack talk. 15 rider MESH. Cardo all the way. Glad to see they are still supporting the older models as well.
@clintonfrizzell8467
@clintonfrizzell8467 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, comic relief very welcome!! Great information as I'm looking for a chat device for my group riding. Thanks Ryan!
@JayyKilz
@JayyKilz 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching these style of videos. Always a hoot haha.
@BluesMtn
@BluesMtn 5 жыл бұрын
Time for an update on communicators yet? Any major changes you would talk to at this point or is it essentially the same old for now?
@taybeltz
@taybeltz 5 жыл бұрын
Cardo partnered with JBL in the meantime
@URBANENGINEER
@URBANENGINEER 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same ATM. Cardo has better speakers and microphone.
@takemechrome2291
@takemechrome2291 6 жыл бұрын
Intro song?
@highzenburger1829
@highzenburger1829 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone find it?
@barrettwbenton
@barrettwbenton 5 жыл бұрын
@@highzenburger1829 Still looking, alas.
@highzenburger1829
@highzenburger1829 5 жыл бұрын
@@barrettwbenton damn what a shame. If only he'd reply oh well.
@highzenburger1829
@highzenburger1829 5 жыл бұрын
@Billy Crash thank you so much
@bigbananna1616
@bigbananna1616 6 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff, crazy but informative keep it up :0)
@Lve2bike
@Lve2bike 6 жыл бұрын
Bought a Packtalk couple seasons ago, blew my goddamn mind. Riding with buddies has never been better, anybody that rides with us goes out and buys one immediately.
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