Catch Can Comparison Mightymouse vs Elite Engineering Ultra

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GarageKing

GarageKing

Күн бұрын

MightyMouse Catch Can vs Elite Engineering Ultra Catch Can, which one catches more oil, which one is better? The Elite catch can is designed by Tracy Lewis Performance, and is also sold under the RX Performance brand. I did a test where I ran two catch cans in series so one after the other. I used a Toyota Tacoma for the test vehicle and ran the truck 1500 kilometres, I think emptied the catch cans and measured how much each caught. I then reversed the catch cans and ran the test again.
If you have any questions just let me know.
#garageking #custom #catchcan

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@LilacGlo
@LilacGlo 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing and super interesting to watch! Here learning! Keep up the great work GK 👍🏽❤️
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks soo much !!! It was a cool comparison between the two, as they are both pretty popular catch cans.
@LilacGlo
@LilacGlo 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarageKing yea very interesting 👍🏽🥰
@gtpsleeper9
@gtpsleeper9 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, looking forward to the next one!
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
For sure, and thanks for the comment !!!!
@karlinladeramusic
@karlinladeramusic 2 жыл бұрын
Love the fast forward clips
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
Tried a different strategy, glad you liked !!!
@karlinladeramusic
@karlinladeramusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great work GK! Love the blue truck.."The Mighty Mouse"
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
The blue truck rocks!!! It’s my daily driver. Gotta love the Toyota !!!
@karlinladeramusic
@karlinladeramusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarageKing Toyotas are the best
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlinladeramusic they do rock !!!!
@D3RPZILLA
@D3RPZILLA Жыл бұрын
Great video man! :D I run the EE Ultra can as well, def a tight squeeze in the ZL1. It catches a pretty solid amount of oil.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comment, appreciate it !!! The Elite Ultra is a beast !!! The EE cans are solid performers for sure. Thanks again :)
@D3RPZILLA
@D3RPZILLA Жыл бұрын
@@GarageKing ​ yeah, for sure! I emptied my can out recently and it collected a pretty solid amount of oil. Def happy with the performance.
@stevenlimbeck1686
@stevenlimbeck1686 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video - Very informative. Were did you get the quick disconnect adapters you have on the hoses (male)?
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
please contact me at garagekingcanada@gmail.com
@tracylewisperformance1328
@tracylewisperformance1328 2 жыл бұрын
What the average makeup of what the Patented Elite/RX design traps is 70% water and acids, 23% raw fuel (this dilutes the engine oil if not removed as soon as it enters) and 7% is oil saturated with abrasive particulate matter. The less effective designs mainly trap oil as being a thicker substance does not "pull through" and still be ingested, but you can also see a good amount of oil passes through to still be ingested as well.
@JayyBird93
@JayyBird93 2 жыл бұрын
Tracy!
@PeacefulmusicchannelRk
@PeacefulmusicchannelRk 2 жыл бұрын
Great sharing
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!!!
@seanjames9662
@seanjames9662 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a true mechanic measurement, 1 KFC spoon.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing Жыл бұрын
Right !!!
@rusmac2017Z
@rusmac2017Z 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and interesting. I am installing the MM can now in my Z06 there would be no room for that large Elite can for sure.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
You are right, the Elite Ultra will not fit. It is a big can. I’m going to keep running it in my truck now that the test is done. Thanks for the comment :)
@JayyBird93
@JayyBird93 2 жыл бұрын
Elite makes other cans as well. See if they have a kit for you.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayyBird93 you are right, they do have smaller cans, excellent comment !!!
@tracylewisperformance2270
@tracylewisperformance2270 Ай бұрын
The E2-X series from Elite has a standard size and the Ultra size. If space is an issue, the standard size should fit fine.
@Bob-Sacamano
@Bob-Sacamano Жыл бұрын
Woulda been nice if you could've let the oil/water mixture from the EE can settle so you can see how much of it was oil vs water. Great comparison nonetheless thanks man!
@GarageKing
@GarageKing Жыл бұрын
You do raise a very good point, thanks for that. Appreciate the comment !!
@andrewcammer2535
@andrewcammer2535 2 жыл бұрын
Cool test. It would have been interesting to total the volumes collected at each test interval and place a percentage collected with each can, in each configuration. It's interesting to think - was the condensation captured in the second test due just to ambient temperature, or is there something about the design of the Mighty Mouse catch can that is introducing some moisture into the PCV system? This is something that would only be easily noticed in your second configuration, where the Elite ran second, and showed the moisture present. The Mighty Mouse is unlike the Elite and is a vent pressure to atmosphere design, and may be returning some atmosphere into the PCV system as a by-product when under vacuum. Something to consider, and maybe test more in the future - maybe draw a vacuum on each can to see what occurs.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
Very good comment. This weekend I'm releasing another vid that will address the condensation. The test vehicle is a C7 Z06 and I bought it new, I ran about 500kms or 300miles with each can and checked under the blower lid, and then cleaned any remaining oil. There would be no condensation, as any would have burned off. As no catch can is 100% I didn't want to run to many miles or it may just look the same (maybe) so by running just a few miles we can see whats left. With the Elite what I did was just put a one way valve on the can so it would vent just like the MM if there was any pressure.
@OscyJack-
@OscyJack- 9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, when run in series, your coalescing efficiency is changed. I'm not sure if it's designed or not, but water vapor is a good thing generally for an intake. It helps to cool the air, as well as exhibits a bit of a steam clean on the valves. Would be a pretty neat truck to capture the oil but allow the moisture.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 9 ай бұрын
@OscyJack- I think a lot of the moisture just goes through. If you figure the amount of air that actually flows through the engine the moisture created/captured by the catch can is a small amount.
@kene3431
@kene3431 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking you should weigh the cans before and after, that would be more accurate. I think there may have been a lot of residue on the steel wool filter in the mighty mouse.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct, and although I thought my comparisons were pretty accurate, I did do another test which I believe was better. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLqFaamIvryxiIU.html
@karlinladeramusic
@karlinladeramusic 2 жыл бұрын
On the way to 5K!
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
You bet !!!!
@bradpaschke4318
@bradpaschke4318 11 ай бұрын
Where can i get a set of those quick connect fittings
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 11 ай бұрын
Send me an email garagekingcanada@gmail.com
@joseluisloredo7874
@joseluisloredo7874 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Will the elite ultra prevent seal blow out on high horsepower builds
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it will, I assume you are talking about the LT4 engine. If you are doing a high horsepower build I would hook up the Elite like the MM is hooked up, but instead of using the 3rd line on the elite for the secondary vacuum I would put a high flow one way valve on the can so it will vent just like the MM does. This way the Elite will have just two hoses like the MM and the other port in the can will be used to vent like the MM. I actually do that in one of my other vids.
@joseluisloredo7874
@joseluisloredo7874 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarageKing Oh okay and yes for 2018 ZL1 would you say the mm wild catch can be a better choice for my set up or the elite ultra
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not associated with either company so I just posted what I found and the Elite did catch more. The difference between the MM mild and Wild is where it pulls the dirty air from. The can is the same. The mild pulls from the valley plate under the blower (which does have a factory separator in it) and the wild pulls from the valvecover. I think by pulling from the valvecover you are bypassing a great factory feature. It’s not 100% because if it was you would not need a catch can, but it helps, and if you can use it, why not ? Don’t forget to get your throttle body connectors so you don’t have to cut your factory line at the throttle body.
@tracylewisperformance1328
@tracylewisperformance1328 2 жыл бұрын
The Elite E2-X Ultra actually uses two separate evacuation vacuum sources so pressure should never build to begin with as suction is always pulled on the crankcase. One of the beautiful things about it being a true "crankcase evacuation" system vs a "catchcan". That prevents seal leaks and failures as well as aids in piston ring seal and stability eliminating most "ring flutter" issues FI engines have and that in itself reduces blow-by. The MM will allow pressure to build and then vent, which is undesirable. The E2-X Also comes with the billet clean side separator that addresses the fresh/clean side of the PCV system. Above 1000 hp the best system is a true vacuum pump like GZ offers. That will allow for a certain amount of vacuum to maintained at all times using an adjustable vacuum relief valve. Ideal that level is 14-15" of vacuum for max benefit and no oiling issues. Pulling full time suction aids in the oil returning to the crankcase as well with less accumulating in the upper reaches of the engine. And finally, it keeps the engine oil clean far longer as it flushes and removes most of the wear causing combustion byproducts as soon as they enter. That's why the Venturi Vacuum generating valve should always be used with the second outlet on the main separator for added suction when needed most avoiding crankcase pressure altogether.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@tracylewisperformance1328 Excellent and thorough answer, I think that some people are concerned with the LT4 as they have had the front crank seal pop out on a highly boosted engine. The secondary line is an awesome feature, and some people do not understand it. Thanks for the great answer
@clarkharvell5242
@clarkharvell5242 3 ай бұрын
Elite is the clear winner there, but why does the MM have a "breather" on top? Surely it is not vented to the atmosphere, that would be a large vacuum leak.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 3 ай бұрын
The MM has a one way valve under the breather so it only vents when the crankcase is under pressure.
@fasnuf
@fasnuf 2 жыл бұрын
i've had bad luck with the EE, but it's not that one. I mean it catches oil but passed a lot too
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I'm not affiliated with either company, just posting what I found. If you got a bad one it would be interesting to see the centre section how well its welded together. They are hand made so if the centre section is not welded tight it will leak (internally), and not be as efficient. Some people like the MM as it vents and only requires two lines, but with the Elite Engineering you could always add a one way valve as an outlet to the third port on the can and it would essentially function the same way. Thanks for the comment, I do appreciate it :)
@tracylewisperformance1328
@tracylewisperformance1328 2 жыл бұрын
The original EE can is really only proper for a mild port injection engine. The E2-X is for GDI and the Ultra for the boosted big power build.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@tracylewisperformance1328 Excellent information, thank you :)
@ACAquatics
@ACAquatics 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2021 Camaro ZL1, 2021 6.2L Silverado with a Whipple Supercharger and a 2015 Corvette and I have a Mighty Mouse catch can on all 3 of my vehicles. The quality of the Mighty Mouse can is the best I've ever seen and their customer service is even better. Mighty Mouse solutions is the best catch can on the market in my opinion. I trust them with the $200,000+ I have invested in my vehicles.
@GarageKing
@GarageKing 2 жыл бұрын
You are right, the quality of the can is awesome !! The machining is really good. It’s a solid unit for sure. I do own one :) customer service is excellent as well. Thanks for the comment and hope you enjoy your day :)
@ufcpubg1964
@ufcpubg1964 Жыл бұрын
Probably was the brake cleaner you used
@GarageKing
@GarageKing Жыл бұрын
Hey there and thanks for the comment, any brake cleaner that I used would have evaporated prior to the next test, that stuff evaporates fast and the catch can gets very hot.
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