Caught In The Middle Of The Hong Kong Protests | Undercover Asia | Full Episode

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4 жыл бұрын

For months Hong Kong was caught in protests. But what does it mean to fight an impossible battle in a city full of violence, fear and uncertainty? Examine the Hong Kong protests through the lens of those caught in the middle: the police force. Once Asia's finest, the Hong Kong police force soon became the most hated. But how does the prolonged violence and harassment affect them and their families?
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@JeEhaO
@JeEhaO 4 жыл бұрын
39:03 ''We have guidelines'' whilst a police hit a non-resisting person really hard in the back of the head with a baton, twice .. He only stopped hitting because another police told him to stop, but he kept being super violent slamming the head to the ground with his knee. I can understand that the situation is tense but that police kept hitting somebody that was not a threat. There is a huge difference between maintaining the law and beating a person that is down on the ground without resisting.
@lampuhijau9900
@lampuhijau9900 4 жыл бұрын
Is hard and crazy situations for them all maybe so some of them go nut
@stuckathome068
@stuckathome068 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair the protesters were beating police too. Guess it’s a riot now.
@_SamUSA_
@_SamUSA_ 4 жыл бұрын
You saw a video of two police. One police from Hong Kong, and another police from the CCP.
@nerdmysteria1406
@nerdmysteria1406 4 жыл бұрын
LampuHijau By that logic, because Police have used so much force and sneaky tactics, the protesters now have the right to throw live grenades and assassinate police
@_SamUSA_
@_SamUSA_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@nerdmysteria1406 The police do not have the right to violate the law. The police cannot cause unlawful injuries or murder Hong Kong citizens.
@freglusdougson1737
@freglusdougson1737 4 жыл бұрын
People are trying really hard to not call this a democratic political revolution
@f00kinglasrsights89
@f00kinglasrsights89 4 жыл бұрын
They called this Peace Protesting
@MrRIK325
@MrRIK325 4 жыл бұрын
Not of Hong Kong origin yet always a fan of Best Movies (Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, etc), Best Music (Twins, 24 herbs, etc.). 100% Respect for All People: Cantonese, Tibetan, Taiwanese & Mandarin. 0% respect for oppressive government that denies freedom of expression.
@freglusdougson1737
@freglusdougson1737 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrRIK325 You should see how brainwashed the mainland China public is, then.
@jagdpanther2224
@jagdpanther2224 4 жыл бұрын
This is a "COUP d'etat" attempted to overthrow HK legitimate government and replace a fascist puppet to favor the west!
@Callsign_Prophet
@Callsign_Prophet 4 жыл бұрын
@@freglusdougson1737 dude if you go anywhere online theres pro Chinese anti American propaganda everywhere some of it even originating in other countries...
@clovertechdev4243
@clovertechdev4243 4 жыл бұрын
These protesters don't represent HK people. I lived in HK under British rule, we were treated same as dogs and didn't have this much freedom like today. Lives are much better now. China has made HK prosperous over these years.
@traviskoh999
@traviskoh999 11 күн бұрын
treated as dogs and no protest. Now treated by motherland and protest like mad dogs.
@briantemple1848
@briantemple1848 4 жыл бұрын
Lived & worked in HK for 21 years, Very difficult to isolate in one of the most dencely populated Cities in the world & still end up with a lower death rate than the UK.
@georgiemartin6236
@georgiemartin6236 3 жыл бұрын
UK and China are still bad for Hong Kong
@georgiemartin6236
@georgiemartin6236 3 жыл бұрын
This comment was directed towards somebody else
@kitcat6053
@kitcat6053 3 жыл бұрын
I visited the Chinese supermarket in Birmingham last year, few Chinese staff, Chinese quit their jobs and live on saving. Most of the staff are either Indian or English. None of the Chinese customers wore fabric face masks, all surgical masks, which were difficult to get. Chinese, Hong Kong people scare of corvid more than death.
@tlee3838
@tlee3838 Жыл бұрын
@@kitcat6053 They are afraid not for themselves but their elderly parents at home. Once contracted, it may mean a death sentence for them. Would you like to be the murderer of your parents or grandparents?
@crystalidx
@crystalidx 3 жыл бұрын
Beijing: “order 66” Me: *Your order is ready*
@bowseplayz1111
@bowseplayz1111 4 жыл бұрын
lmao the vulgarities part where eveything is bleeped is probably just them saying dllm over and over again
@benjaminhill2836
@benjaminhill2836 2 жыл бұрын
You guys forgot to mention the MTR Prince Edwards station beating by the communist police. That was another turning point.
@whtdafuk1701
@whtdafuk1701 3 жыл бұрын
What does she think police do give out kisses when the rioters throw petrol bombs.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
They literally want the police to kneel down and let themselves get beaten and killed. This was never a fight for justice. This was an outright bullying scam and a thirst for power and some twisted sense of vengeance.
@flip1sba
@flip1sba 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, The HK Police lost its status as “Asia’s Finest” because of these protests especially with how they handled it.
@linstein5903
@linstein5903 3 жыл бұрын
Hk police?
@flip1sba
@flip1sba 3 жыл бұрын
@@linstein5903 HK Police whatelse?
@linstein5903
@linstein5903 3 жыл бұрын
@@flip1sba hk police has been known as central gov controlled for a very long time.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
The goal of any civil unrest is to embarrass the government and the police. As the situation in Hong Kong has normalised somewhat, the police can regain their composure and rapport with the community. It's already happening, although the protesters would love to deny that with sour grapes. That's all this was. A widespread attempt to bully the cops. You can tell by how undisciplined the protesters were, making threats to families and CHILDREN just because somebody might be related to a cop.
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
the HK police couldnt have done better!
@tatymatala6737
@tatymatala6737 3 жыл бұрын
Realy ENJOY IT
@arianahyeung5280
@arianahyeung5280 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Hong Kong and I always ask my mom why is hongkong like this
@Youdontshushh
@Youdontshushh 4 жыл бұрын
@Itachirevived human rights council in china?
@nathanli3024
@nathanli3024 4 жыл бұрын
@GTA and Apple channel Two nuclear power fighting? No thanks.
@nathanli3024
@nathanli3024 4 жыл бұрын
@GTA and Apple channel I just registered for the draft in the US, I ain't supporting this war until the US is out of NATO. I'm not fighting WWIII.
@nathanli3024
@nathanli3024 4 жыл бұрын
GTA and Apple channel yeah you are forgetting something: China and Nk has f’n nukes that can reach continental US and Europe. I’m not risking the entire world going under a nuclear winter to save a few.
@nathanli3024
@nathanli3024 4 жыл бұрын
@GTA and Apple channel Dude do some research. You telling me CNN, MSNBC, Fox, AP are all lies? All of them say China have nukes to reach anywhere in the world and NK has the ability to reach the continental US. Even if they can't reach us you gonna let them nuke Hawaii or Guam? We ain't invading.
@justsadluck7697
@justsadluck7697 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh no wonder some hardcore protesters was wearing gears and even operated like the military a some months ago
@michaelbarr1189
@michaelbarr1189 4 жыл бұрын
The only person in that report who look genuine is the police's wife in the shadow. Everything she said make sense, her heart is at the right place, I feel sad for her, but don't lose your compassion for hong-kongers woman, you are an example for your people!
@dl5066
@dl5066 4 жыл бұрын
I can't agree with you at all. Your husband is risking his line on the line and all she can bitch about is how supposed "heartless" he is? Was she expecting him to deal with violence from rioters with a smile and risk dying in the process?
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
traitor to your country
@haichu2493
@haichu2493 4 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong people are gonna pissed u said Hong Kong China
@Cotinine
@Cotinine 4 жыл бұрын
celtic barbarian Hong Konger here and I class my self as British thanks I wasn’t born after the 2047 so :)
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@celtic barbarian ​you do know hong kong is majority owned by the UK and bc china has broken there contract that means majority of hong kong is still owned by the UK, ONLY A SMALL PART OF HONG KONG WAS 99 YEARS LEASE
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@celtic barbarian Thanks for proving me right by not even knowing the truth, but its not ur fault ur just ignorant thanks to ur communist goverment .mao zedong killed 50 million chineas people and they still think he was a good person BRAINWASHED
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@celtic barbarian China has a history of lying about its outbreaks, including SARS in 2002 and 2003. But Chinese leaders’ negligence in December and January-for well over a month after the first outbreak of corona virus in Wuhan This is what allowed the virus to spread across the globe. Because the Chinese Communist Party was pretending that there was little to be concerned about, Wuhan was a porous purveyor of the virus. The government only instituted a lockdown in Wuhan on January 23-seven weeks after the virus first appeared.
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@celtic barbarian U do know that japan took over hong kong then gave it back to the british meaning the do own the entier land,In the aftermath of the Japanese surrender, it was unclear whether the United Kingdom or the Republic of China would assume sovereignty of the territory. UK got the land from japan meaning its all British
@stuartong4462
@stuartong4462 4 жыл бұрын
This is not a good unbiased report on the troubles of 2019, it focuses too much from the police’s perspective. We’ve lived it daily here in Hong Kong and I give this reporting a 4 out of 10.
@kylemin1384
@kylemin1384 2 жыл бұрын
truth hurts doesn't it? so the rioters never went out of control and tried to harm the police? they are lucky it not US otherwise half of the protesters would have been dead.
@RoOTVftw
@RoOTVftw 4 жыл бұрын
singapore youre legends for funding this video.
@Potomacstud
@Potomacstud 2 жыл бұрын
superb documentary , well done CNA
@justc3863
@justc3863 4 жыл бұрын
the woman should divorce her man. millions dont have a place to stay in hk and shes complaining about her house is like a prison. dont slap the hand that feeds you. she feels sorry for the guy with head cracked open and pinned by the cop? thats SOP for cops, ask amy cop around the world...i feel sorry for the 70 yr old city sanitation worker that was bricked to death by these student goons and the man that was burned alive with gasoline because he was trying to stop the goons from beating a woman to death
@shadowlink114
@shadowlink114 4 жыл бұрын
More people need to see this
@christinedowd1820
@christinedowd1820 3 жыл бұрын
Jake Mahaney If 30% of doxing is against the police, what about the other 70%?
@xueueux
@xueueux 3 жыл бұрын
When US have their protestors, they call rioters.. When HK have rioters, they call protestors.. Hypocrisy AF!
@johnnychim4892
@johnnychim4892 3 жыл бұрын
It is not the same. In US, people break the stores and rob. In HK people break the stores because they tell lies to the international public. People did not rob them. We even caught the robber and tie them up in the protest
@nicholaschan4228
@nicholaschan4228 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent whataboutism, does the US response to BLM change the fact that the HKPF did something wrong if? Of course not. If person A was accused of murder by person B, does the case get dropped because person B is also a murderer?
@dl5066
@dl5066 4 жыл бұрын
The opening is stupid enough, your husband is being attacked by rioters, with many badly hurt and others having their life threatened. Yet all can say is the police are heartless. If you other half stops caring about you and only about how she/he appears to her/his friends, then you know it's time to move on.
@sneakyf7668
@sneakyf7668 4 жыл бұрын
So you completely ignored what the police did on 612, 721, 811, 831, 101,1111........?The list goes on forever
@fludblud
@fludblud 4 жыл бұрын
Because by international standards none of those events are actually shocking. More people die from barfights in Sydney on a Saturday night than from months of rioting in HK. A cop beating may look shocking to you but the rest of the world has to deal with cops that openly shoot people dead for grams of weed, bad language or not paying a bribe, so in comparison HKers have it lucky.
@solarlaw1421
@solarlaw1421 4 жыл бұрын
You missed the fact that guns are legal in the US, and that this is a police force with weapons that could kill used on unarmed masses. They don't kill you, they beat you till you're crippled. If you're a teen girl, you get raped in jail by the police. And yet to this day, she had to have an abortion, while the cops that raped her are protected
@solarlaw1421
@solarlaw1421 4 жыл бұрын
Not paying a bribe? You're discribing a third world country. Hong Kong is an international city with first world country standards and a world economic zone side by side with London and New York.
@Jeg898
@Jeg898 3 жыл бұрын
@Mark Johnson Ye they are, but that is a good and bad thing. Right now it's a bad thing as the protesters know that they have a high chance of not getting shot
@fumiyama165
@fumiyama165 4 жыл бұрын
32:43 a picture is worth a thousand words. Hard to hide from it
@ThuNguyen-fm5cm
@ThuNguyen-fm5cm 4 жыл бұрын
It’s been 1 year already but they dont seem to give up..
@coe8159
@coe8159 4 жыл бұрын
thư nguyễn, fair governments acknowledge the protesters goals and make compromises if possible, corrupt empires put down protests with unrelenting force and brutality.
@1cin9z35
@1cin9z35 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and that's a good thing
@sabinthopra6257
@sabinthopra6257 3 жыл бұрын
It is because they are getting paid Do you think they are rich enough to protest for a year despite Hong Kong is rich And Hong Kong is rich not all its people living there and let’s not forget Hong Kong is one of most expensive city to live
@ThuNguyen-fm5cm
@ThuNguyen-fm5cm 3 жыл бұрын
Sabin Thopra they work at day time and protest at night. Also, Taiwan sent them masks to protest, and some other countries support them by sending them tools for their protest
@ThuNguyen-fm5cm
@ThuNguyen-fm5cm 3 жыл бұрын
Sabin Thopra And by the way, who’s paying them?
@BC-rx8sm
@BC-rx8sm 4 жыл бұрын
And Lam Chi Wai is also the very police from the low-rank police association who made an official statement in August to call protesters cockroaches.
@Cysecsg
@Cysecsg 4 жыл бұрын
And yet Trump already threatened miltary action just 1 week after protest. The protesters should watch how US handle the protesters alike and judge for themselves what police brutality really means.
@klmamamia68
@klmamamia68 3 жыл бұрын
I am stay at home , I never got bit.
@rusticbox9908
@rusticbox9908 4 жыл бұрын
The brutal attacking of an police officer and ramming police lines with makeshift barricades were the tipping point for the use of TG wasn't adequately covered. It wasn't like it was all peaceful and the police fired TG into them..... Not to mention the bricks and metal rods thrown at police. That police officer was surrounded and beaten by at least 10 people, how he only fired off ONE shot still baffles me.
@maverick1993
@maverick1993 4 жыл бұрын
Found the 50c army!
@rusticbox9908
@rusticbox9908 4 жыл бұрын
@@maverick1993 Thanks for your quality comment.
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
@@maverick1993 the irony of the delusional HK bots bro your a traitor its already clear you guys are just a tool in a proxy war and u dare call him 50cent army lol
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
Shhh, the protesters don't like people mythbusting their fabrications. I've gotten threats on FB for calling them out on their bullshxt.
@NotanotherDopeShow
@NotanotherDopeShow 4 жыл бұрын
And now, we have Corona.
@titanxie5579
@titanxie5579 4 жыл бұрын
You can't expect a smooth transition on a city like HK from a fully grown democratic society to a communist society. With the hidden support from the west, and the ambition of Beijing, HK will never be the same again.
@haiwatigere6202
@haiwatigere6202 3 жыл бұрын
HK was never democratic. Leaders were imposed from UK
@nelc2399
@nelc2399 4 жыл бұрын
More to come in HKG protest 😎 Covid-19: hold my beer
@kingpin7610
@kingpin7610 3 жыл бұрын
maybe China release the coronavirus to stop the protest 🙃
@msjanegrey
@msjanegrey 2 жыл бұрын
Covid= tip of the pyramide.
@jonathanwong8487
@jonathanwong8487 2 жыл бұрын
its sad that HK became so bad...but anyhow you may protest, but end of the day the world knows that HK will go back to China. By then, all ur protests are also useless...majority of the residence there probably live a comfortable democratic life till they forget the truth. It may only be so long before it happen. Their protest has turn into the countries self destruction. really sad situation, but other countries in the world are far worst.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
I disagree that HK is "bad," but I do agree that this "protest movement" lacks a clear, achievable strategy. Selling sob stories is not going to get you the change that you seek in Hong Kong. Creating your own oppression by going out and committing violence, is not going to gain anything for you, or for Hong Kong, or for anybody.
@kourisei5896
@kourisei5896 3 жыл бұрын
it's bad press, not necessarily saying documenting the protests are bad it's just that the violence receive more spotlight, if I were the police officers, I would do everything to gain the public's trust because it's what started this year long nightmare, POLICE SHOULD SHOW THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC DO THINGS THAT WILL APPEASE THEM AS WELL AS TO MAINTAIN LAW OVER THE CITY, because doing a negative to another negative doesn't make it positive they are feeding fuel to the raging fire that is the populace's desire for a democratic system
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
I think the cops had been trying very hard to maintain rapport with the public during the widespread unrest. If you keep up with local news, every single violent incident the police will debrief in an open press conference, explaining what happened, why they made the decisions they did, the obstacles that they faced trying to execute the plans, etc. The entire goal of widespread civil unrest is to embarrass the government into making concessions. There is no easy way out for the cops, who are legally bound to keep order and stop violence. With a scene as chaotic and widespread as Hong Kong's in 2019, I think they still did a respectable job, certainly better than many other forces would have done.
@supapoopatroopa6882
@supapoopatroopa6882 4 жыл бұрын
This feels heavily bias towards the police leaving out key details of the protestor side and portraying them as violent mobs even after the bill got shut down they only became violent after the police were violent and only increased their anger after police did so. This entire thing feels like propaganda
@supapoopatroopa6882
@supapoopatroopa6882 4 жыл бұрын
weeklyariana uh yeah I agree with you... idk what about my comment made you think otherwise
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
excuse me? they were extremely violent first. the police do what they are supposed to do and within the law. the police actually showed way more restraint than they should have probably because of the world spreading fake news .
@tanjeffrey9396
@tanjeffrey9396 Жыл бұрын
The HK Chief Executive is the main Culprit with her senseless and brainless political policy.
@scarletbunny7818
@scarletbunny7818 4 жыл бұрын
I understand that there might be cherry picking as the professor said, but I'm just curious why that protestor from 34:03 is covered in blood. Like, isn't that not suppose to happen in the first place?
@talkfacts100
@talkfacts100 4 жыл бұрын
I guess this was the clash between protesters and the triads they didn't want the protesters burn their neighbourhood as announced and fought back. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZZ4isWhvp7ZnGg.html also explained by Daniel but there are more sources. Best example of cherry picking is the police shooting a protester. Our news outlets just don't report how it comes to that. The policeman got beaten up by 3 with metal bars and they went for his gun. He had to protect other bystanders and himself. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrRkgNmA17bTpJ8.html CNA Singapur provides some rare pictures. Western media would rarely show. Or search for brick dead man hk or burn. Those who supposedly were not pro protestants and gave their life for it , or are marked for life.
@talkfacts100
@talkfacts100 4 жыл бұрын
Are you guys still supporting those violent protesters? The problem is the non violent Demonstrant are supporting those. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sMyUpLqixLvej6s.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e75_h8RmmLXWgXk.html
@ReweOwner
@ReweOwner 4 жыл бұрын
Is it you or I can't see it
@talkfacts100
@talkfacts100 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReweOwner it is because you are not looking 😉 here are some other sources kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sMyUpLqixLvej6s.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrRkgNmA17bTpJ8.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itF4fslhrcXQcYk.html can't put all of them, because you can't put too many links
@twthemlg6476
@twthemlg6476 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReweOwner thats either a chinese nationalist or part of the 50cent army. just ignore his so-called 'evidences' cuz they are all taken out of contexts
@starnightstarlight
@starnightstarlight 4 жыл бұрын
I used to like TVB dramas about HK police, not anymore.
@Satoru1324
@Satoru1324 4 жыл бұрын
Its not their fault, they're probably being brainwashed and forced to do these kind of things
@MrBlinder514
@MrBlinder514 4 жыл бұрын
@@Satoru1324 same applicable to those rioters
@user-yi2zy7lj3n
@user-yi2zy7lj3n 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrBlinder514 The rioters are the police.
@ellashy6539
@ellashy6539 4 жыл бұрын
duh who cares
@truthmatters2782
@truthmatters2782 4 жыл бұрын
I watch TVB dramas about police too. Now I really admire the HK police. Compared with American police HK police is so tame and restraint. Those thugs in HK were beating up people, burning properties, vandalising public utilities and committing treason. HK need US police to deal with them. Treason is a capital offence in America. It should be in HK too to safeguard HK. Hypocrisy in full display. Shame. .
@mcfaic
@mcfaic 4 жыл бұрын
Where the hell of UN human rights commission on what's happening now in USA? Pitifully silence!
@dominicpersaud1155
@dominicpersaud1155 3 жыл бұрын
Im glad that cop = got to taste how the protesters felt
@nickbarros4268
@nickbarros4268 4 жыл бұрын
Will Hong Kong be like Syria?
@jamescole2331
@jamescole2331 4 жыл бұрын
I do feel bad for the police but they should leave
@GangetFans
@GangetFans 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting program, life is seldom black and white
@christinedowd1820
@christinedowd1820 3 жыл бұрын
GangetFans It always makes me wonder why more than one million people came out to peaceful protest in the first place. The only way that stable middle class people come out to protest is if they are concerned about their children’s future. What concerns did these people have originally to come out en masse? I mean before all the violence started.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
@@christinedowd1820 To answer your question, it's important to separate the early protests and the later riots. The early protests (note that the protesters themselves do NOT want to admit this as it de-legitimises them) actually accomplished their goal. After 1-2 million people rallied, the government cancelled a controversial legislation in June 2019. But some factions of the movement wanted more, and escalated into violent riots. Indeed, most of the protesters went home but the fringe elements began to play a game of cat-and-mouse with the police, in an effort to frustrate and embarrass the government into giving more concessions. They moved the goalposts with 5 more demands, some of which were subsequently met but again, the protesters claim otherwise. This escalated further and further until the violence boiled over. Most of the hardcore rioters barricaded themselves in several college campuses, starving into surrender in November 2019. The nails in the coffin came two-fold, with Covid in January 2020 and China's new security laws in July 2020. This struck enough fear in the movement that it fell apart without any further violence.
@EweCantHandletheTruth
@EweCantHandletheTruth 4 жыл бұрын
Where's a good ole coup when you need one?
@onengkusumah2905
@onengkusumah2905 4 жыл бұрын
Saul Goodmang none. All cops have to follow orders from their commanders.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants an armed revolution in Hong Kong. Not even the protesters. That's why they were content with their sticks-and-bricks game.
@lanceoyes
@lanceoyes 2 жыл бұрын
Hongkonger: HK Polices are violent... American: Grab my beer...
@Andrew-nu8ez
@Andrew-nu8ez 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a protest when you destroy the city and others that have a different view. The reporter is bias towards the terrorist using stronger words when describing the action if the police.
@joseph-mariopelerin7028
@joseph-mariopelerin7028 4 жыл бұрын
so you call it a terrorist attack, not a protest... okay...
@Andrew-nu8ez
@Andrew-nu8ez 4 жыл бұрын
@@joseph-mariopelerin7028 , yes. In any other country, it would be consider terrorist attack. In the US, these kids would be dead on the first hour.
@joseph-mariopelerin7028
@joseph-mariopelerin7028 4 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-nu8ez ya... if they're black maybe... you watch too much tv, America still have 200 times more freedom than anywhere else, specially china... kid around here are spoiled and respoiled... most of, can't even conceive what is like to be stuck , and what to expect when enough is enough...
@campfiresnlasguns
@campfiresnlasguns 4 жыл бұрын
The terms between Britain & China were for Hong Kong to come under full Chinese control in 2047. Until then, Hong Kong is to remain a Special Administrative Region practicising the "One Country, Two Systems" Policy. However, since the Chinese Government is so willing to take control of the place quickly, breaching the terms of their agreement with Britain, just as they had broken international law in so many places, I hope the Brits would actually really consider breaching their side of the agreement & become more involved in HK-CN relations or even retake Hong Kong if deemed necessary.
@woklam342
@woklam342 4 жыл бұрын
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@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@@woklam342 China has a history of lying about its outbreaks, including SARS in 2002 and 2003. But Chinese leaders’ negligence in December and January-for well over a month after the first outbreak of corona virus in Wuhan This is what allowed the virus to spread across the globe. Because the Chinese Communist Party was pretending that there was little to be concerned about, Wuhan was a porous purveyor of the virus. The government only instituted a lockdown in Wuhan on January 23-seven weeks after the virus first appeared.
@campfiresnlasguns
@campfiresnlasguns 4 жыл бұрын
@@tankvinl9805 Heyya, there's no point in explaining it to him/her. There is a peculiarly high chance the fellow's part of the Chinese 50 Cent Army. Meaning he/she is obligated to share such Pro-China views online to both get paid by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and to spread the CCP's propaganda across. Typically, they're deny this or, if they're intelligent enough, they keep quiet. The 50 Cent Army is arguably the primary Chinese Propaganda Wing as it operates across all platforms on the Internet, from KZfaq to Instagram. They are permitted to pass Chinese censors. You can't reason with them so let 'em be.
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@@campfiresnlasguns did not know that, Thank you
@campfiresnlasguns
@campfiresnlasguns 4 жыл бұрын
@@tankvinl9805 No problem. If you're feeling low, but interested about this whole Chinese 50 Cent Army thing, I implore you to google the Milk Tea Alliance. Thailand is fighting (very significantly) against the 50 Cent Army in the most interesting way possible.
@gerardyoutube3826
@gerardyoutube3826 4 жыл бұрын
Police brutality? Wake up HK. Look at what happening in America now.
@dulanbia6681
@dulanbia6681 4 жыл бұрын
ehh
@IKNFLY666
@IKNFLY666 4 жыл бұрын
first divide them, then rule them
@RC-jr3th
@RC-jr3th 4 жыл бұрын
funny you mentioned in your Video of Yuen Long, why not show what also happened in Central-Sheung Wan the same time kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLF7asV7mbbNg40.html but perhaps also look at the Press where they standing, would love to see the our Hong Police to use the same liberty and freedom the US Police given the news reporters
@magallanthepenguin9132
@magallanthepenguin9132 4 жыл бұрын
anyone see animal crossing when they keep bashing carrie lam with stick nets???
@ReweOwner
@ReweOwner 4 жыл бұрын
There is a virus and they want to protest!?
@kitcat6053
@kitcat6053 3 жыл бұрын
When people are angry, or in bad mood, they do stupid things. Inequality becomes worse and worse in Hong Kong, people with low income live in misery. Senior people collect rubbish for living, live in cages. The young generation is not as resilient as their parents. But protest won't solve problems. The super-rich will move to the west or Singapore, the Chinese super-rich will take over. Good luck to the people who live on the bottom.
@JorchNeto
@JorchNeto 4 жыл бұрын
police escalated first so they lost the respect of the ppl - the people wont stay put and retaliate and take the offensive - both sides will continue to escalate
@maraeacookson1573
@maraeacookson1573 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the police did not escalate first, with all the other suggestions of CCP input and behind the scenes ulterior motives perhaps it is the CCP who escalated it and made it appear the police were at fault. Anything is possible to make others look bad after all people's names, addresses, DOB, work, mobile numbers were leaked so anything is possible.
@darrelgoff466
@darrelgoff466 4 жыл бұрын
Not incompetence but full on intent.
@cys91
@cys91 4 жыл бұрын
I think an alarming issue is how the existing police feels they have support of the citizens when many has already lost faith in them.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
This is an unavoidable part of civil unrest, whose goal is usually to antagonise and embarrass the government into making concessions. As the situation in Hong Kong has stabilised somewhat, the police have gradually restored rapport with the community.
@MrRIK325
@MrRIK325 4 жыл бұрын
100% Respect for All People: Cantonese, Tibetan, Taiwanese & Mandarin. 0% respect for oppressive government that denies freedom of expression.
@jagdpanther2224
@jagdpanther2224 4 жыл бұрын
Ric Sta bullshit
@MrRIK325
@MrRIK325 4 жыл бұрын
@@jagdpanther2224 Yes! It is.
@MrRIK325
@MrRIK325 4 жыл бұрын
@celtic barbarian Agreed! My Dad, who was a merchant seaman, thought likewise. Yet as my origins are of a different continent & era, propaganda is what it always was. The True Spirit of all individuals of humankind, overcoming even the greatest difficulties, should preferably never suppressed by any "communal group". Thanks for your reply.
@ellashy6539
@ellashy6539 4 жыл бұрын
I think since Hong Kong love british rule so much scrap the elections and just elect a governor by Beijing
@fledglingcrafter
@fledglingcrafter Жыл бұрын
You must think that your husband may lose his job if he protested and who will pay for your food on the table.... also, living is more important than losing everything. What happens to the protesters, are they living well? Are they becoming richer by revolting....
@asgaiyawaya3973
@asgaiyawaya3973 4 жыл бұрын
The CCP is guilty of crimes against humanity which is defined as For the purpose of this Statute, ‘crime against humanity’ means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack: Murder; Extermination; Enslavement; Deportation or forcible transfer of population; Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law; Torture; Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity; Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court; Enforced disappearance of persons; The crime of apartheid; Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health. For the purpose of paragraph 1: ‘Attack directed against any civilian population’ means a course of conduct involving the multiple commission of acts referred to in paragraph 1 against any civilian population, pursuant to or in furtherance of a State or organizational policy to commit such attack; All of which the CCP and it's goons including members of the HK police have committed. Source of this definition is here. www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/crimes-against-humanity.shtml
@asgaiyawaya3973
@asgaiyawaya3973 4 жыл бұрын
@zach pizarro Chinese communist party
@hoonztookoong5178
@hoonztookoong5178 4 жыл бұрын
you have evidence? lol
@asgaiyawaya3973
@asgaiyawaya3973 4 жыл бұрын
@@hoonztookoong5178 here is evidence of persecution. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZZplbpix87bhJ8.html Here is evidence of violence towards civilians kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zp53d7R0zrucpYk.html forced deportation kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbhylrNmp9jKln0.html murder kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdOHY9iWyM2qoKc.html plenty more evidence I haven't even started with organ harvesting yet.
@gregtv1467
@gregtv1467 4 жыл бұрын
I think the HK government should listen to their citizens since they are technically supposed to be a democracy. The extradition bill was a way for the CCP to infringe on the freedom of speech of Hong Kong people and the first crucial step to gaining more influence over Hong Kong. There are many reasons why Hong Kongers do not want mainland China to encroach on their determined political system. Mainly because HK wouldn't be the same place it used to be. HK has its own identity, culture and views on the world which do not at all align with the one of main landers that are following the propaganda narrative of the CCP. When the extradition bill hit and the HK government was not responding to the peaceful protests, young people that want a future and don't only care about money (where good relations with the CCP really helps) thought that something had to be done. So they started blocking roads and important infrastructure as an attempt to make the government listen to them and meet their demands. Because neither the CCP or the HK government wanted the economy to take such a drastic hit, they responded with police force instead of accepting the protectors demands since the CCP is to eager for that influence. IT IS NOT THE POLICES OR PROTESTERS FAULT THIS CHAOS HAPPENED BUT THE PRO CCP GOVERNMENT. Eventually though the government decided to withdraw the extradition bill since they were aware that the protesters weren't going to stop anytime soon otherwise. The problem here is that the withdrawal was too late, as the protesters got to see how flawed their government is and continued the road blocks which made things escalate. The protesters know that what is happening isn't good for the city but they know halting the economy is the only way to make their government reconsider things. Don't get me wrong, i know that violence isn't justified in any way, shape or form. Neither is vandalism. But don't forget that violence and ruining the city wasn't the protesters goal, but the bad organization of the government let it escalate to that point. It is the police's and government's responsibility to listen to their citizens and keep them safe and they failed to do so because of their political and economical incentives.
@jagdpanther2224
@jagdpanther2224 4 жыл бұрын
Nonsenses!
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@@jagdpanther2224 50+ million died under mao zedong still he has a pic of him in bejing
@hoonztookoong5178
@hoonztookoong5178 4 жыл бұрын
If the government aceeds to every single demand set by the protesters then there will be never ending protests in HK. This is the precedence that the HK gov do not want to set. and the 5 demands are just absolutely rubbish. Even after the extradition bill was withdrawn, why did the protest went on? why did the pro democracy especially claudia mo incite hatred and violence? Do note that the pro democracy camp had NEVER and i repeat NEVER once condemned the violence brought forth by the protesters. This protest is just the pro democracy politician's agenda to grab power by trying to destroy the government and further down the road they are going to seek independence. That;s why they seek USA's help.
@tankvinl9805
@tankvinl9805 4 жыл бұрын
@@hoonztookoong5178 OR china is a communist ditctator wich you cant say/do anything agianst them or you will be send of to a work camp(think it like the soviet Gulag ) communist china watch there people every move, Communist china talk about freedom of religion but they dont actually have it, In china you can be arrested for no reason and be gone forever chinese people are brainwashed as they say if you want to know whats happeing in china dont bother asking a chinese person bc they wont know People want freedom so i dont see why you would be agianst people protesting for there right and freedom, Not wanting to live under a communist dictatorship
@cav1stlt922
@cav1stlt922 4 жыл бұрын
Salute to Ms Cathy Yau. I do not necessary agree or disagree with the police actions but for her to have the courage and determination to quit her job amidst such chaos and uncertain environment deserves recognition and accolade. Good luck to her!
@hikurukutai
@hikurukutai 4 жыл бұрын
This would not happen in the west the police would have dealt with it quickly with the use of batons and guns all over in a day
@tonychenh4142
@tonychenh4142 4 жыл бұрын
Police brutality is same as pornography. Easily recognized
@ellahosokawa4663
@ellahosokawa4663 4 жыл бұрын
Sad 😢
@Fantom6400
@Fantom6400 2 жыл бұрын
My support for the Hong Kong police.
@malivev4705
@malivev4705 2 жыл бұрын
why do you want HK to be a part of China
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
@@malivev4705 HK is already part of china dumbass
@Fantom6400
@Fantom6400 2 жыл бұрын
@@malivev4705 because it is CHINA!!!
@malivev4705
@malivev4705 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fantom6400 no
@Fantom6400
@Fantom6400 2 жыл бұрын
@@malivev4705 Hong Kong is NOT BRITISH!!! …and YES it’s CHINESE!!!!
@williamzabiski7653
@williamzabiski7653 4 жыл бұрын
The police force should representing the majority which are true Hong kong people
@mhw7388
@mhw7388 4 жыл бұрын
But it is hard to say who is the ture Hongkongers since from the nearest district council election seems half and half or 4 to 6, if you simply devide them into 2 sides (pro establishment and pro democracy). Maybe both are ture Hongkongers but with different view
@mhw7388
@mhw7388 4 жыл бұрын
@Hello World. Maybe from my observations, the housing problem in Hong Kong isn't simply about they have the the seat or not. But one of the major income of government is selling land, that why the the flat is unaffordable, and a "small government big" market. But the government have push out some measures in building house but somehow is oppose by "someone" due to the environment, capital or other problems(just excuses). The subject you said should be Liberal Study. The textbook is only giving the students the general concept or framework even thought many calms it fully affect the students' mindset. I think the major reason is social media among students in Hong Kong. Most of them are followingthe pro democracy pages and maybe peer pressure, other follow. These are just from observations or other articles. May not be fully correct.
@mhw7388
@mhw7388 4 жыл бұрын
@Hello World. It is really called Liberal Study in HK. You can check on HKEAA which is the public exam authority in HK. LS is in the core subject of HKDSE I also agree that government should put more effort in controlling the price of no matter houses or necessaries. Maybe referring to Singapore's public housing policy which ironically Singapore referred to hk's one 80's. Unfortunately the power of gov in HK in not as strong as Singapore's. Finding lands is the most challenging part. Reclamation is objected (like Lantaw tomorrow vision because some local citizen claim that it will spend all the money of gov, but not going to discuss more at here), periphery of country side is objected, renovation is objected. How can government build more to control price? And that's how the name of "small government big market" comes. That good idea to review the policy with Disneyland.
@mhw7388
@mhw7388 4 жыл бұрын
@Hello World. Hoping that HKSAR can find the way to redress the balance between capital and citizen. Hoping that HK can one day get out of this chaos
@michaelwang6125
@michaelwang6125 4 жыл бұрын
they became politic tools :'( It'll be as if another country's government asked the army to act against protest but the army itself stated that they won't be mobilized against the people. In this case for HK, the police don't really have a choice (unless they quit or hold high enough position to make the change)
@jonathanlim7874
@jonathanlim7874 4 жыл бұрын
I used to sympathise the so called "peaceful protesters" until I viewed more videos and references made on many videos. This CNA production is certainly more supportive of the Rioters. The spark off in June was blaming the HK Police for being brutal, please check what happened to the LECO building on that day. What had happened there was not even mentioned and viewers will feel that HK Police just went berserk and starts hitting rioters? Also why the policeman fired the shot to one of the rioters on 1st October? One policeman was ambushed by a group of rioters with hammers. iron rods and other weapons that could kill a person. But all these were not mentioned. IS CNA trying to glorify the rioters by not showing the other truth?
@joseph-mariopelerin7028
@joseph-mariopelerin7028 4 жыл бұрын
''peaceful protester'' is a joke, what are you talking about... i always have pity for peoples who waste their own conviction fighting in a peaceful manner... nothing changes in a peaceful manner... the system is make that way, make sense right... the problem is when the very few (1%) take advantage of that system the last 99% are left with only two way :up or down.... not everyone is capable of going down and comply to a forced direction... this is call Nature, and that's what you should admire and sympathize with...
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped supporting the protests when they turned violent. This happened when the Extradition Bill was suspended and eventually completely cancelled. The massive protests were done, but the bad actors were left high and dry without anything to do. So they hijacked the movement and started to bully the cops.
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
@@joseph-mariopelerin7028 wtf u talking about?
@joseph-mariopelerin7028
@joseph-mariopelerin7028 2 жыл бұрын
@sneeky things oh... I’m talking about the life we all live in...
@jutamaschancheochingchai9154
@jutamaschancheochingchai9154 4 жыл бұрын
Protesters​last​year​
@Iberotimuka
@Iberotimuka 4 жыл бұрын
Britain could and should do more. We have a moral responsibility to the people of Hong Kong and are the only one with a legitimate right to stick our proverbial nose in as the 1984 Sino British Joint Declaration is not being adhered to.
@benlee7947
@benlee7947 3 жыл бұрын
But they haven’t which buggers me. Like merica be making moves when they have no claim but the brits are super quiet for some reason
@ewlchen
@ewlchen 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I don’t feel sorry for the cops here. They started the escalation with a brutal crackdown on an angry population. What do you expect when you poke a bear or a beehive? Kisses?
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
As a HKer working in the US and keenly interested in the 2019 unrest, I saw the complete opposite on news footage and FB livestreams. The protest movement of 2019 got concessions from the government when they were peaceful rallies. Then they wanted more, and played a bigger, more violent game, until they finally played themselves and bit off more than they could chew.
@sneakycheeky531
@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын
yeh nah the police are the heros and the rioters are the villain case closed. already proven. stop the delusions its cringy
@suelee6812
@suelee6812 3 жыл бұрын
1903 hours sunday 26th july 2020 - Why shouldn't HK have police and LAW and ORDER ???
@lixinnn
@lixinnn 4 жыл бұрын
Messed up
@waimunyan7007
@waimunyan7007 2 жыл бұрын
The city is done....
@indigodragon0613
@indigodragon0613 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao the IPCC sounds useless. That cop saying that people can express their complaints either doesn’t understand this, doesn’t care, or he actually has it out for the protestors. These protestors seem to me to be fighting for their freedom, for their rights, and for justice. Some go overboard, yes. Some are violent and should be charged, but the vast majority are fighting for a just cause. They resort to their tactics because they are desperate. You cannot fight desperation. When people are desperate, they will do anything. That is why I don’t see a peaceful end to this without China removing all influence from Hong Kong, and police being charged for their assault on people.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
The protesters can't name a single constitutional right that they were fighting for in 2019. Actually I have a good theory on what they were fighting for: A sense of belonging, which their rigid academic families and schools failed to give, and which the protest movement offered. As for the right to vote, the Hong Kong government actually proposed several rounds of electoral reform, but the biggest package (including a democratic election for the Chief Executive) was actually voted down in 2015 by the "pro-democracy" bloc. In that respect, Hong Kong only has itself to blame. As for justice, bad cops are constantly being prosecuted in Hong Kong. All it takes is a glance at daily local news, but of course the protesters are loath to admit that.
@barrychmak7852
@barrychmak7852 3 жыл бұрын
Police in Hong Kong are very gentle when compared with their US counterparts .......
@konapi1812
@konapi1812 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Christian, but I'm telling you what I think is important now because of the strange series of experiences that the facts are stranger than novels. I feel like Hong Kong and China are in a dispute that they don't realize something very important. Buildings that ignore people's hearts and emotions tend to collapse. Rock of Ages-Mormon Tabernacle Choir Rocks and clocks, humans have limited time to live. Lack of thoughtfulness. 私はクリスチャンではないけれど、事実は小説よりも奇なりというような不思議な連続の経験により、今は大事だと思う言葉を伝えている。 香港と中国はとても大事なことに気付かない争いのように私は思える。 人の心や感情を無視して建てた物は崩れやすい。 Rock of Ages - Mormon Tabernacle Choir 岩と時計、人間が生きている時間には限りがある。 思慮深さが欠ける。 h/why=yhwh=360° eddiee55
@Hennet97
@Hennet97 4 жыл бұрын
"they no longer seem to be the protectors of taxpayers and citizens" they never were, buddy, they never were
@Anonymous-zb8lv
@Anonymous-zb8lv 4 жыл бұрын
The wives of the officers have slowly left them too. Pretty much says everything about the officers
@wst844
@wst844 4 жыл бұрын
Have you even watched the video? Or are you so stuck in your narrative that police officers are evil scary monsters under the bed that you lack the basic decency to empathize like a normal human being
@pauls7622
@pauls7622 4 жыл бұрын
And many of the parents of the rioters have kicked them out of their home and disowned them
@Godlystriker
@Godlystriker 4 жыл бұрын
Dumbass sheeple
@wst844
@wst844 4 жыл бұрын
@@Godlystriker Yes, the classic insult. Because anyone who doesn't think like you is a sheep or brainwashed, for anyone who can think will without a doubt think exactly like you because your views are just so undoubtedly right and there are no grey areas in this world
@phillychee440
@phillychee440 4 жыл бұрын
more people need to see material with viewpoint from both sides and stop the vicious cycle of hatred. stop cherry picking your evidence to protagonize/antagonize either side. im not supportive of the police's actions but a lot of them have heavy debt burden (mostly mortgages) that they can't afford to pay off if they quit their jobs and not listen to the higher up commands. like Mr. Elm said (retired police in the interview), a lot of them were doing what they did for survival. but there're also a number of rogue police that just lost their minds and had no remorse on violence. #worldpeace
@ahmadahmad5088
@ahmadahmad5088 4 жыл бұрын
can have a report on US Mineapolis racial incident ?like to hear a report discredit US, PLEASE
@andrewphillips8341
@andrewphillips8341 4 жыл бұрын
'What about-ism"!!! Thanks 50 cent
@rampar77
@rampar77 3 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong police are too soft. The should have st those protesters. They were destroying Hong Kong's future from tourist and business. Police could arrest any one for stopping/blocking traffic flow or destroying properties..
@TheMutedVid
@TheMutedVid 4 жыл бұрын
in 2014, Hong Kong protestors did not use violent methods even once, they opened their umbrellas for the police during heavy rain so that the police on duty don't catch a cold but in the end HK police just violently put them down and the demand for universal suffrage did not get fulfilled. it was a failed movement. In 2019, they started out as peaceful once again but police immediately used violence in June, protestors realized that violence was the only way forward, so they used violence, HK police did not expect whole HK to be united against them, in the end, the demand got fulfilled(the extradition bill to be cancelled) when you live under a government that uses oppressive means to quell your freedom then peaceful methods don't work, only violence works. Fun fact, HK Government cannot do anything without the approval of the China communist party. a puppet dancing the way the master pulls the strings.
@hoonztookoong5178
@hoonztookoong5178 4 жыл бұрын
what a pack of lies. The live streams that day clearly showed the protesters started the violence first. They were seen coming prepared with cling films and hard hats and bricks. They were ready to rush into the legco and fortunately the police there at that time managed to hold them back, if not many would had died. It was a coordinated attack by the protesters.
@TheMutedVid
@TheMutedVid 4 жыл бұрын
Hoonz Tookoong do you live in Hong Kong? Did you attend the protests? No? Ok then you may leave now. I haven’t lied about anything. Go do some research and visit Hong Kong before judging. Yes I agree, this year the protests were extremely violent but it was for the greater good. Remember when china abducted Hong Kong booksellers because their views conflicted with the CCP. Yeah I didn’t think you’d know about that. Do some research. This is why Hong Kongers protested against extradition bill. To avoid letting china abuse the system. Also fun fact, majority of HK police dressed as protestors were encouraging violence to defame protestors. During the legco storming in 2019, it began in the afternoon and lasted from 1pm all the way to 11pm. The police and the government allowed legco to be seized to hopefully make the protestors lose public support but it backfired and encouraged more youth instead to take to the streets.
@hoonztookoong5178
@hoonztookoong5178 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMutedVid violence for the greater good? lol. You mean the pan dems practicing extreme partisan politics to condemn and encourage violence towards others that don';t agree with them? Your version of events are so wrong lol. Multiple live streams had caught the protesters starting the violence first. And then when you cannot dispute that then resort to wild theories that undercover police encouraged the violence and police allowed the storming of legco lol! you have evidence that majority of HK police are undercover that day? Calling you out for all you lies here. HK is heading towards civil war and genocide and you people are supporting this. Greater good my ass.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.... NO. I've extensively examined the tons and tons of footage of the HK unrest. The vast majority of violent incidents were started by the protesters and rioters. You can always argue whether that extra clubbing on the part of this or that riot cop was warranted. Or when exactly this rioter or that rioter stopped resisting arrest. But on the whole, they were VERY restrained in handling the unrest. It's funny how the protesters keep painting a picture of oppression, when they are out there creating it for themselves. It's literally their own self-fulfilling prophecy, selling for sympathy.
@veteranstalon7382
@veteranstalon7382 4 жыл бұрын
Now, where's Jackie Chan ranting and disgust to the people of Hongkong for doing a protest to HK government. Say something now my idol Jackie of what the Chinese have done globally. Where are the Chinese people in HK that was so angry with the HKongers? Say something now Carrie Lam you have been vindictive to your own people.
@SabrinskySoIntense
@SabrinskySoIntense 2 жыл бұрын
the craziest part of this video was getting to the end and fully realising that this was supposed to be the police's victimisation statement... and... it was entirely ineffectual in that regard. i spent the entire video thinking '... well... why dont they quit being police officers if they dont like being targetted and treated the way police target innocent civilians?' like do they not comprehend that trust has been 'shaken' [see: 'obliterated'] because theyve ratcheted up the violence in suppressing the citizens' natural instinct to protest their decreasing standards of living and life? tl;dr - the police should just quit their jobs if they dont like being held personally accountable for their personal decisions [one of which is deciding to be a cop]
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
You're literally parroting the protesters' lines that the police "target innocent civilians." The message I got from watching the gratuitous footage of chaos *just in this video*, is demonstrating the complete opposite. The police were being overwhelmed by mob rule in 2019, and had to resort to heavy-handed riot control to maintain order. It's a common tactic for protesters to claim that they were "innocent bystanders" when they got caught. In the middle of the night. At the scene of a riot. After trying to run from the cops. My take is that these rioters thought they had the numbers, and were not expecting to get caught. They spent months screaming "oppression" and it looks like they've finally found it. Their destruction has been quite widespread, and although I work outside of Hong Kong, I have seen the damage they have caused in my neighbourhood--if they want to call that "freedom," they can take that freedom and shove it where the sun don't shine.
@SabrinskySoIntense
@SabrinskySoIntense 2 жыл бұрын
​@@canto_v12 'overwhelmed by mob rule in 2019' is the key part of your statement that you should reflect upon. hong kongers have an extremely long history of civil obedience and respect for the law. the protests of 2019 did not just spring up out of nowhere - it is the (as i previously stated) citizens' natural instinct to protest their decreasing standards of living -- decreasing standards of living that are being facilitated by governmental interference from the chinese communist party and, crucially, *the corrupt police officers* who are implementing mainland china's brutal suppression of hong kongs independent government of their own free will. every man and every woman has the right to fight against people who would do that to them. it's that or live as slaves.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
@@SabrinskySoIntense The scene where the protester Tsang Chi-kin was shot with a live round, is an example of my reference to "mob rule." A group of "protesters" ambushed a pair of patrolling officers. This is all on video. Among his group, Tsang is seen striking the officer's arm with a weapon as the gun fires. There is no ambiguity about this event--the uncut video follows the group as it approaches and ambushes the officers. Please do not confuse these anarchists to the peaceful protesters of earlier in 2019, who achieved their goal without fighting the cops.
@SabrinskySoIntense
@SabrinskySoIntense 2 жыл бұрын
@@canto_v12 the escalation is the natural development of what happens when citizens' rights and standards of living are decreasing. it is human nature - and it is righteous. if the police want to see a change - they have to make a change. they can start with demilitarising and standing aside when hong kongers protests beijings mistreatment and violent encroachment of their freedoms and rights. returning their focus to eradicating triads ought to be their primary goal in securing a peaceful hong kong for hong kongers -- let the chinese communist party send in their troops if they want to launch violent suppression on democracy. for as long as the hong kong police choose to carry out the actions of beijing, they will be held accountable for their dereliction of duty - by whatever means the citizenry has left to them.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
@@SabrinskySoIntense that’s cool if you think it’s the police’s job to sympathise with an ideological struggle. I view them as an apolitical law enforcement tool. They are there to enforce the laws, as written-deviating from that will be a steep, slippery slope into fascism. Not asking you to agree-just my two cents as someone who has seen too many countries fall into chaos because the cops and/or the military became politically involved. I have too much attachment to Hong Kong to support the politicisation of law enforcement. As for living standard, I think you mean to say that Hong Kong’s living standard has risen too much, such that the working class struggle to survive. That is a vestige of colonial capitalism, creating property developers who are tied by the exorbitant land prices that they are forced to build on. The government does this to maintain its low-tax laissez faire business environment. Sure, I agree that it’s on HK to fix that and not Britain or China, but I just wanted to be clear that China did not cause this.
@vi3tgu12L408
@vi3tgu12L408 4 жыл бұрын
police suppose to serve their citizens, not the other way around. What happened in Yuen Long (7/21) citizens loss hope, feel the police has betrayed them, and there's no TRUST!!! (like in a relationship, when trust has been broken, getting it back won't be easy; you have to work really hard to get it back)
@vi3tgu12L408
@vi3tgu12L408 4 жыл бұрын
AH I believe the government should have listened to their citizens in the first place. If they did, I don't think it would have escalated this far. The government totally screwed up by listening to their CCP overlords!!!
@vi3tgu12L408
@vi3tgu12L408 4 жыл бұрын
AH I find the demands are reasonable. Sino-British Joint Declaration doesn’t expire until 2047, China clearly doesn’t recognized this treaty. Do you seriously think China just want “some” control over HK (SAR)?? You can deny it or give excuses all you want, HKers know that the government is slowly encroaching on their freedom that’s why they protest (you can call it “riot” or “ terrorism”) The more the government wanted to suppress their citizens, the more it will backfire. They thought they could silence them all. It’s unfortunate the end result is months of unrest...
@Godlystriker
@Godlystriker 4 жыл бұрын
The citizens who built the city not those who are destroying it
@hoonztookoong5178
@hoonztookoong5178 4 жыл бұрын
Yuen long was a carefully planned operation by the protesters. On that day the police were all held up in town as protesters there battled with police and cordoned off police stations. The protesters plan was to go nam ping wai village and to sack it as revenge against the villagers for chasing their protesters away. Videos not published by the biased media showed a huge group marched on foot to the village. only to be repelled by the villagers. Those at the train station was supposed to link up with those other protesters Lam chuk guy was there to oversee the operation. The police served the citizens by protecting them from these violent protesters who doesn't hesitate to kill anyone who comes in their way. you conveniently forget they killed an old man in cold blood.
@Black_loyalist
@Black_loyalist 4 жыл бұрын
why this video not tell the truth of those rioters burnt middle aged man alive because he has different opinion? WTF
@CalvinLu1
@CalvinLu1 4 жыл бұрын
God seeing the man with the knee on his head god smh
@haiwatigere6202
@haiwatigere6202 3 жыл бұрын
Just like George Floyd hey
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
What can I say, shouldn't have been rioting and throwing bricks at the cops.
@pokee4704
@pokee4704 4 жыл бұрын
I am just watching and I can feel their pain their is a whole protest and they have to deal with corona if they even have it (not sure) but I think the police are way to brutal if the police just listened none of this would have happened
@houghtonstreet3392
@houghtonstreet3392 3 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong GO GO GO! Pride of all the protesters!
@1DesertCop
@1DesertCop 3 жыл бұрын
When the public is polite and obey the law the police will.
@johnnychim4892
@johnnychim4892 3 жыл бұрын
When the public is polite and obey, the police still beating you. Go see what happened in MTR station on 31 August.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnychim4892 I watched it. It's ALWAYS somebody on the protester side ignoring instructions, arguing with and assaulting the cops and causing the police to escalate.
@turtl1505
@turtl1505 4 жыл бұрын
why are these people saying the police are the good guys?
@maverick1993
@maverick1993 4 жыл бұрын
Cna is usually neutral, it's more of a story of good and bad, cops and robbers. They've go back and forth in this, but it did lean bias to the cops. What they missed was Chinese army integration into Hong Kong police and Chinese police dressed as gangsters in the under ground beatings at the train station. If you watche carefully you will notice their stance, it's a stance used by trained riot police and usually national guards to submit rioters.
@chimanng8000
@chimanng8000 3 жыл бұрын
How would "liberate Hong Kong" feel in other countries? i.e. liberate wester countries. This is a wrong signal. During the riots, there is no way to separate the violence from rioters or passers by. Smart people would be stay in the scene.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
The whole thing was a lack of organisation, a lack of goal-setting ("5 demands" is too vague and anarchic) and a lack of skill to negotiate and compromise.
@thepanel2935
@thepanel2935 4 жыл бұрын
*_FREE_* *_HONG_* *_KONG!_*
@vincentong358
@vincentong358 Жыл бұрын
Police Go go go
@miniman6430
@miniman6430 3 жыл бұрын
If in Americans police also kill the protesters.........please don’t trick to hk students 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
@brightbird4195
@brightbird4195 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is bias as we don't get to see the perspective from the some of the 'hardcore protesters' as majority of the sources were from either police officers, retired ones, or family members. I believe both the officers and protesters are in the wrong and the victims with excessive violence seem from both sides. With the civilians stuck in the middle. Context matters a lot in these sort of matters, so why don't we see the view point of the current protesters? Though we probably can all agree the China government are the main problem.
@Cecilia-
@Cecilia- 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. My ex bf is a hardcode protester/hongkonger. He believes that if there is no pain , there is no gain. In terms of a "revolution", his words, "violences and deaths are apart of revolutions. Change won't happen if there are no violence". I stand in the middle, neither this or neither that and he hates on me, or the people who stays silent and doesn't do anything". We got in quite a lot of fights because I stayed silent on the matter.
@brightbird4195
@brightbird4195 3 жыл бұрын
Most ‘extreme’ protestors have a reason to commit these violent acts, a grievance, perceived injustice, something to fight for. MOST people won’t commit violence for no reason. A lot of riots occur because peaceful demonstrations/protests don’t work so to get attention on their ‘problem’, people start to commit civil disobedience and gradually it becomes full on violent riot as the protesters feel that they are not being listened to. Although this may not always be the case for everyone, there will always be outliers. People who are more inclined to commit violence for their ‘cause’. I can understand why some protesters are committing these violent acts (though that does not mean I fully support their actions), I can also understand that the police are simply doing their jobs and they need to earn money for their family. But that does not excuse the actions that some of them have taken. Though I will admit I am bias as most of what I know come from news reports that may be bias towards the protesters and police officers. And a lot of what I have typed out are my own opinion and perspective. If it would be possible to see this situation from your viewpoint and what your stance and your husband’s stance on these ‘protests’ in Hong Kong are as you live there, it would be greatly appreciated to get rid of my bias and potential misunderstandings and inaccuracies. Thank you.
@Cecilia-
@Cecilia- 3 жыл бұрын
@@brightbird4195 Most hardcore protestors that is my exbf and his friend group in general have hardcore/extreme personalities. They are rash and tend to react violently first before reason. Protest aside, other things like a disagreement we will have about food, comes first with rash emotions like anger, profanities, etc. It isn't just towards me, bumping into someone on the streets and cursing at their mothers or his parents nagging him becomes him cursing at his parents. They are easily irritable. When it comes to any protester news, like claim, "allege undercover police shot pushed man walking on the street, or tear gas was fired today at this neighbourhood", it hypes them up. They are legit hyped up with any news, even the smallest and they get an adrenaline rush to fight to go to war. It kind of reminds me of the War boys from Mad Max. They just absorb any news like a sponge (verified or not) then react. He sees me, standing neutral, as a waste in society. He sees those silent on the matter as just as wrong as the police or ccp. It really reminds me of my younger brother when he was a teenager, easily triggered and irrational except he is 29 years old and his friend group are in their 30s.
@brightbird4195
@brightbird4195 3 жыл бұрын
I see... Thank you for your perspective, some of the news coverage on the protests from the perspective of the (student) protestors paints them in favorable light. Like soldiers going to war, so much so that we tend to forget people like your ex (correction not husband) exist. PS. For the record, your not a waste of space ;)
@Cecilia-
@Cecilia- 3 жыл бұрын
@@brightbird4195 Thank you for your kind words. I think in general, the frontline protestor tend to be extreme people/personalities. They are highly reactive people, and also very emotional. Sometimes I think this emotion (including fear) can skew one's perspective. Personally, I think it is important to stay grounded to reality as much as possible. The media and social media also will intentionally take part in pulling their emotions or feeding their emotions, sadly. They are really like the War boys from Mad Max, disposable and forgettable too with enough time
@mentaIproblems
@mentaIproblems 3 жыл бұрын
If Hong Kong is gonna stay like this, might as well put it on the list with Detroit and NK
@Jay-dv8dy
@Jay-dv8dy 4 жыл бұрын
TBH I do not like this never ending demonstration - Hongkongers, but nor China Communism that always wants to take over something that doesnt belong to them..... So sick of this drama
@jagdpanther2224
@jagdpanther2224 4 жыл бұрын
Shoot "Stone throwers"! Shoot "Molotov Cocktail throwers"! Shoot "Umbrella fighters"!
@jaggerh-l2097
@jaggerh-l2097 4 жыл бұрын
They’re standing for the right of freedom, if aggression is necessary than so be it!
@dl5066
@dl5066 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaggerh-l2097 lol drug dealers are standing for the freedom to deal drugs, I guess if aggression is necessary than so be it?
@jaggerh-l2097
@jaggerh-l2097 4 жыл бұрын
D L Difference between the ability to legallysell drugs and standing for the right to elect your own leaders
@IkramulHasanLV
@IkramulHasanLV 4 жыл бұрын
is not that 31%?!
@yeahzeeroo
@yeahzeeroo 4 жыл бұрын
Man I feel for the cops but my political anger with communist in my country also has me being less empathetic. I wouldn't ever go so far to hurt the cop or support the violence. However I know the communist in my country would have it another way. I do hope best for Hong Kong though. Its sad to see the police stuck in a political bullshit.
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