Challenger Mid explains how to build your Champ Pool

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A guide to Champ Pool for new and experienced players :3
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@Zianni Жыл бұрын

There is nothing wrong with playing what you want if you're a casual or 4fun player. Not everything has to be about ranked/competitive. However, if you want to climb and see improvement/progress in the long run it is better to have a champion pool to set yourself up for success.

@Mauler-bd4hg Жыл бұрын

What class would Sylas fall under? Ap Assassin?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

@@Mauler-bd4hg AP Bruiser / Assassin yeah

@TheRobertR Жыл бұрын

Hello, Zianni new sub but can you go more in depth on how to identify win conditions with examples? If there exists such a video of yours may you point me in the right direction thank you.

@prakharranjan5208 Жыл бұрын

Also some champions are just better than other champions the sooner you realise that the easier it will be for u in the future and for climbing

@mandasmovingcastle Жыл бұрын

"....they're absolutely trash" (bear increases in size and stares angrily into the camera) you had me shaking in my boots there

@mavis5513 Жыл бұрын

I started watching you while learning vex and started watching your streams. I've been learning a lot about all kinds of things and started thinking with my brain instead of autopilot in lane :)

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

I am so proud of you, that is the number 1 road block for players. They refuse to play with intention or purpose = Never improve

@natdaone5075 Жыл бұрын

Zianni always improving our league experience. Ty king 👑

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

My pleasure 🙏

@RoxasRealmRR Жыл бұрын

bro i just found your channel and your videos are quite good i did coaching some time ago to high diamond and low masters players and it feels nice to see people like you who explain things so smoothly that makes people want to see more videos and start put them into practice (this happens with a few players that i coach recently)

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, it's good that you are a positive influence for your students. Keep up the good work.

@ju3328 Жыл бұрын

I love the part where you describe dodge as a positive/consistent method which requires game knowledge of identifying win condition. So many times I felt something off during champ select but forced myself into the game and lost in the way that I have imagined before the game started.

@randomaxeco2275 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video zianni, thank you for your insight and clear explanations

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Thanks Babe

@Eclipse-lw4vf Жыл бұрын

Honestly been learning a lot about league lately so thanks dude! Been mad helpful

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Thanks :3

@352davinci Жыл бұрын

Good job Zianni :D This is the best Champ Pool video I have seen, keep it up 💪

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words :3

@gustavofender1 Жыл бұрын

Another huge guide dude! You're helping me a lot

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

I got u

@ryanmadden2209 Жыл бұрын

Very informative. I can already feel the lp gains

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Good, good. Let the power flow through you

@XDXDXDXDHAHAHAHAHHAXDXDXDXDXD Жыл бұрын

Bro this video helped me so much mqn

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Np friend

@sintailz Жыл бұрын

Amazing content, keep it up!

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Ur too kind sintailz, I lvoe you

@Doge3mpire Жыл бұрын

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@Zianni Жыл бұрын

No worries, feel free to hold onto it if you want

@trentgant Жыл бұрын

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@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Huge w

@arrowsecho5779 Жыл бұрын

This is very insightful. I knew having a diverse champ pool for support was important, but didn't know it applied to mid as well. I'll hate having to learn an AD assassin though ): Would something like Fizz or Ekko be fine too, or is the AD part important?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Having split damage sources stops the enemy team from building armor and countering your ENTIRE team. It's just about making it hard for the enemy team to itemize easily

@jaimais3527 Жыл бұрын

Thanks this was useful :3

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@Lorecantus Жыл бұрын

Bro Zianni your my greatest hero

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Love u

@oopsie8144 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Zianni! It was informative and I learned a lot from the video. I'd been playing jungle till s9 an I took a break so I'm relearning the game at the moment, and I want to learn mid. I was playing nidalee, graves, taliyah until I hit d4 in s9. I'm thinking of practicing Orianna for now, but I've never tried any mid ad assassins so far. I played lucian and corki if I were to play off role, but those are ranged. Are there any good ad/ap assasins to learn from scratch?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

For AD - Talon / Zed For AP - Ahri / Vex

@oopsie8144 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni Thanks a lot, Zianni! I'm going to try Zed/Ahri for assassins. By the way, if you were to learn Zed from complete scratch, how would you start?

@k6vin Жыл бұрын

i am very good at azir and feel good potential even vs tougher matchups like akali or yone is it even worth trying to broaden my pool? i feel like azir also itemizes pretty well building ludens, liandries, crown and even rod, as well as diff rune pages such as conq, comet, or HoB. so im unsure if its a big need to learn some other champs.

@annafernandez6674 Жыл бұрын

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@Zianni Жыл бұрын

You're the best!

@Extra_-zn3di Жыл бұрын

yes senpai Zianni

@marinoszarkadis5660 8 ай бұрын

My champion pool is Aurelion/vex/Syndra and naafiri as a AD assassin but tbh I love AP varus. Is he considered an AP assassin since I can pretty much one shot every squishy champion ? Also is there any category I miss by playing these champions ? (I know varus sucks atm but I’m doing pretty well at my plat elo so far and I really enjoy him)

@Headliest Жыл бұрын

Hey man great video. I've been a zed OTP for about 5 seasons and am looking to start playing ranked more seriously so I want a proper champ pool. I was thinking of zed/vex and a control mage, either orianna or viktor...what do you think?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

I think that sounds great. Really well rounded

@natedickerson7032 2 ай бұрын

Would you recommend Zed, Fizz, Akali, veigar in this current season?

@plythbird 18 күн бұрын

How do you feel about Anivia, Talon/Akshan (haven't decided yet), and Diana?

@iTzTiMeToJuMp Жыл бұрын

Im late here, but I am not sure how you select an ap assassin vs a control mage. Is it just snowball vs scaling?

@jasonstroude1414 Жыл бұрын

I play ziggs and syndra mid, who would be a good character to add in the last slot?

@brandonbetsy6171 Жыл бұрын

Do burst mages/early game mages (Neeko and Zoe specifically in my case) fulfil a similar role to AP assassins in terms or champ pool coverage?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

For the most part, yes! They aren't as consistent zoning wise to be 100% control mages but they have the mobility/burst to create plays easily which is the hallmark of an AP Assassin.

@iskyiTV Жыл бұрын

This is such a good video. Maybe the Summoner School Reddit could benefit from this?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

I would never put my work on reddit to get flamed by bronze players who disagree with my opinion while stating personal bias

@GUSTA99LOL Жыл бұрын

thanks

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

@lunamoon515 9 ай бұрын

My pool is Diana, Lux and Syndra in the mid lane. Who would you suggest? Someone AD I suppose

@lucascaruso7275 Жыл бұрын

My pool consists of Katarina (main), Akali, Yone. You may argue that Kat and Akali are the same type of champions, however, I have put so many hours into Akali across 3 seasons and have recently found Katarina to be my favourite champion in the game. Do you think it is worth picking up a 4th champ for a control-mage option? Or is my pool fine?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

It would be worth adding a control mage but I would not go past four champs. Your champ pool is unique because you have really good early game but also really good scaling on your champs (cuz they're broken). You could just pick Veigar here as a 100% safe blind pick that also infinitely scales, otherwise Viktor for damage since that seems to be your playstyle.

@sniparr Жыл бұрын

My pool consists of Ahri, Yone and Sylas, should I add a puremage like viktor or veigar ? Should we have like a 5th champ to play as offrole or something ? What do you think

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Viktor or Veigar is good 👍 if you want to play AD secondary I would pick Veigar so you can offrole APC Veigar

@Chef_Sanji Жыл бұрын

Hello, do u think Lux is a good control mage for low elo ? I mean she is easy to play, she has a lot of zoning ability ,damage and cc in teamfight. She reminds me of Vex but with more range.

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Lux IMO is really bad right now as a former top 3 Lux player in NA. Her damage and mobility is too low to succeed in a tank meta with insane amounts of mobility. Vex at least has the ability to snowball and roam infinite at the cost of a little bit of range. Lux is only playable if your team is ahead otherwise you just get one shot dived even if you're playing a disengage champ

@wingswingswings Жыл бұрын

okay but what if i want to be stubborn and otp seraphine or lux or ahri but never all three

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

META = Most Efficient Tactics Available. You can play what you want you just have to understand that you're playing on hard more for no reason = stress

@hokao6725 Жыл бұрын

I'm actually playing Ahri, Vex and Patheon... What would you suggest as a control mage from the one you suggested?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

It's really just personal preference for playstyle, you seem to like roaming and engaging so maybe Predator Veigar

@hokao6725 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni Thanks for the advice man! Appreciated :D

@aceofdimondsXD Жыл бұрын

So what would a jungler's champ pool make up of? Would you still go one for every major class because than you get a pool of 6-8 depending on how you classify specialists like graves and Fiddlesticks, and I'm sure that not everyone has to play ivern to cover a support jungler right?

@jakemertens8828 4 күн бұрын

Junglers tend to just play meta more than any other role because you champion unfamiliarity is less punishing since farming camps is less demanding than laning against an enemy. But if you want to keep a small pool anyway then stick to 1 AD, 1 AP, and 1 Tank

@natdaone5075 Жыл бұрын

Is Ekko a good champ to have in your champ pool for low elo, even though he has little impact in the early game?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Ekko is pretty good, he's extremely overtuned for low elo

@Jacob-he9qr Жыл бұрын

Very helpful Mr Zianni thank you *cries in jg main*

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Im so sorry for your loss

@cro4891 Жыл бұрын

Pog now i wont bliend pick like a dumbass

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

@samchern2237 Жыл бұрын

xD imma take the advice ty

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Please do, thanks.

@Kanji12190 Жыл бұрын

me who plays akali, azir, zoe and katarina: well... i need some AD

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

You might like zed or yone

@odydg Жыл бұрын

opinion accepted

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Dope

@danielhughes3758 Жыл бұрын

I'm considering Katarina as AD assassin but her most recommended build is AP. Is she still considered AD due to lots of melee attacking or would you recommend a more AD focused build in that case?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

She has lots of variations like the Divine Sunderer / Nashors build AP Kat recently has gotten multiple buffs since the AD variant has been too strong, but she's still good on eitehr build

@danielhughes3758 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni So I suppose if I learn Kat I'd use her as both AD and AP assassin and just switch builds depending on what the team comp needs? I mean, if my team has lots of AP already, should I then choose an AD build at all times or is there ever a merit to go for an AP build on her when my team needs AD?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

@@danielhughes3758 She'd be a flexible pick for sure. You'd build based on draft and what your team needs to succeed. If you force AP with 4 AP on your team they'll just stack MR for double value.

@danielhughes3758 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni Yeah, figured that but just wanted to double check how flexible her builds were. Thanks a lot for the clarifications. How do you tackle playing the secondary role? Currently my secondary role is support and I play Lux, or Morgana if Lux is taken, since her kit is very similar apart from the ult. Is that fine even though I don't play those champs in mid? Is the 3 champion tip mostly just for mid? I feel like having more champs in secondary role splits focus too much since it's a secondary role that I rarely play. Is an AD support also necessary you think?

@Sinnotic Жыл бұрын

I main Cassiopeia, what would you label her as? I have mostly only played her even to blind pick or picking her into unfavorable matchups but I can general win, but I get into situations where we get out comped because I don’t have a frontline or peel. So I want to diversify so I have something easier to blind pick or work Into free for all drafts. Recommendations?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

She would be a control mage. So pick an AD + AP Assassin to make up for your lack of mobility and/or consistent match ups. Cassio is a pretty good champion but it usually just devolves to jungler diff if you want to take advantage of winning matchups as Cassio

@Sinnotic Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni so for AP assassins I generally go Diana, since my ahri and lissandra leave a bit to be desired. But I have trouble picking an ad assassin just because I can’t really find one that I click with. But I think I struggle with assassins in general because they’re melee. Do you feel it’s easier to climb with a champ pool than just being a OTP?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

@@Sinnotic Ye I feel that a lot of people struggle with melees. Having a defined champ pool will make you a better mid laner, whereas being an OTP will make you better at the champ specifically. A lot of times OTPs get really high rank but doesn't understand their ROLE

@Sinnotic Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni thank you so much for the insight! I might have to try Akshan and see if I can enjoy him as an ad assassin. Then I’d have three I can play compared to 3 control mages are just OTP cass

@ttvrosie Жыл бұрын

i main ziggs. any champs i should cut out?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Ziggs

@kilroyd8375 Жыл бұрын

Is akali a solid pick for ap assasin? Bc iam maining qiyana or ahri would be a better choice?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Ahri is more consistent and would be a good blind pick champion. Akali is good tho

@kilroyd8375 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni thank you for the respond it means a lot :D

@mrgamingpanda16 Жыл бұрын

I'm not good at any ad assassin's. I can play gp, yone, and Garen all very well in mid. Which would be the best for my pool. Currently g2/g1 if that makes a difference

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

As long as it's AD, it's fine but of course assassins will be more optimal due to their identity and success in Solo Q. Yone is an assassin technically

@mrgamingpanda16 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni thanks a lot. I appreciate the help

@Victor-fh5lx Жыл бұрын

Would you consider Gwen and ezreal mid griefing?

@mtn323007 Жыл бұрын

Are there alternatives for AD assassins?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Any AD champion will serve as a substitute like Lucian / Trist / Sett / but they won't be as optimal

@anhhoang7706 Жыл бұрын

I play Ahri, Talon and Anivia/Orianna, guess I'm settled lol

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

looks like ur straight pog champing bro

@atha6632 Жыл бұрын

What site or app did you use for 3:05?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

lolalytics.com/

@pilupacurari3196 Жыл бұрын

what do i do if i like to play orianna and viktor tho ? when do i pick which ?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

They both do the same thing, Orianna just has more utility while Viktor does more damage. They're both control mages that scale so it's up to your preference on which is more fun.

@pilupacurari3196 Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni and i can main both of them depending if i need utility or damage in a game? exluding an assasin for example in my champ pool

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

@@pilupacurari3196 If you remove either assassin your draft is still suboptimal and you won't be able to play the game unless you're last pick. Viktor/Orianna blind are insta lose and AD assassins have volatile matchups Just play 4 champs AD ASSASSIN / AP ASSASSIN / Viktor / Orianna

@Relaera Жыл бұрын

Recommended Champ Pool: Senna, Senna, Xerath, Senna, and Senna.

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Seems like a good pool to me

@juanfelipecardenasgomez9124 Жыл бұрын

And here I am playing only mages like syndra orianna cassio ahri vex liss and so

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

At least u have two archetypes, ur just missing an AD option

@verticalridez3508 Жыл бұрын

Zianni made me like and comment because Katarina is mentioned in this video what a pleb amirite HA nerds rekt

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Can u imagine being a kata otp :vomit:

@LoLTerminus 9 ай бұрын

whats with the runescape music all the time in the background lol

@Zianni 9 ай бұрын

-30 decibel osrs music goes hard

@dazeen9591 15 күн бұрын

my champ pool is 10+ champs 💀

@mochiboot6502 Жыл бұрын

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@brandonbetsy6171 Жыл бұрын

Does Yone count as an AD assassin?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Yes, lots of champions have multiple archetypes since they're designed to be frustrating lol

@miname2306 Жыл бұрын

I haven't watch the video but here's my champ pool: Akali, Kat, Ori, Azir, Lux, Syndra, Qiyana, Irelia and Seraphine, If they have tanky range teamcomp i would pick Kat and Seraphine, If they have melee tanky teamcomp I would pick Akali or Irelia, If our team lacks teamfight dps i would pick Orianna or Kat, If our team lacks cc i pick Lux or Sera, If they are mostly range i pick Sera or Lux, If they are mostly melee i would pick Azir, Akali or Irelia

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

U have like 4 Champs that do the same thing as each other = you don't learn matchups fast enough or master your champ due to how broad ur pool is

@TitansRevenge3D Жыл бұрын

Damn I feel like a dick. took me 4 hours to come here and comment.

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

damn thats rookie numbers

@TitansRevenge3D Жыл бұрын

@@Zianni my bad fam

@pranavganapathisubbu5174 Жыл бұрын

Opinion on sylas rn?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

PRETTY DARN GOOD

@AlexForDanmark Жыл бұрын

this advise made me a 10000000X beter play

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Let's gooooo

@mohammadm.o4457 Жыл бұрын

Annie/yone/Oriana How good is that:>

@hendrik7367 Жыл бұрын

Here take my comment

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Thanks boi

@smoke_ttg4842 Жыл бұрын

zoe video

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

ErickDota plays zoe all the time big recommend

@Blackleg2001 Жыл бұрын

Champion pool with vex?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

My champ pool would be Vex / Orianna/Veigar / Yone

@yan7821 Жыл бұрын

3 champs huh? thats pretty easy choice tbh 1: Volibear cause hawt furry 2: Renekton cause hawt scaly 3: Vex cause my fav league youtuber mains her

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

thanks yan..

@zeratulrus142 Жыл бұрын

I think I heard they are severely restricting dodging next season, and I can't wait for the update to be out.

@Blackleg2001 Жыл бұрын

Nice mid champs vs tanky team?

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Any champ that itemizes Liandrys will typically do well since they do consistent DPS and % hp

@doughnugcat Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you Zianni! I will continue to learn and become the better at mid lane :D (Ori-n't you glad to see my comment?)

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

Meow :3

@jakit0556 Жыл бұрын

why play game when can play not game and win

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

TRUEEE, lets all quit together

@AntarixOfficial Жыл бұрын

Champ pool ? I play top laners in the midlane and win cause the enemy doesn't know what to do lol

@wingsofnight4317 Жыл бұрын

@Zianni Жыл бұрын

wow I caqnt believe I expected anything more from you

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