Changing HPOP oil on 7.3 Power stroke, improve start-up.

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Big E's auto

3 жыл бұрын

Changing upper oil. #Powerstroke #Ford #Diesel #F250

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@MotoHeadKyle 2 жыл бұрын

Great job! I appreciate the TIP

@buntik1687 2 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful!

@philipdeakin7677 2 жыл бұрын

Ideal to use a small electric vacuum pump (Harbor Freight) with an intermediate sealed plastic jug like they sell with the Harbor Freight hand vacuum pump. May want to do it 3-5 times if the reservoir and top end are black/sludgy still. May also want to put 3-5 ounces of Archoil in the top end to help it stay clean as well. Can do that with one of the fills he showed.

@camposvazquez Жыл бұрын

To all the 7.3 bros... I bus mechanic who works on these daily siggested the following.. Perform oil and filter change first... Remove oil from hpop... While tge hpop is empty... Put a magnet through it to check for metal shavings Then fill hoop with .75 quart of MMO or stiction eliminator.. He said to perform this 2 times per year

@bigesauto9413 Жыл бұрын

love the input, will try it next time I change oil, thanks for watching

@camposvazquez Жыл бұрын

@@bigesauto9413 please more grassroots 7.3 videos... I have done general maintenance on my buddies rig... I am in the process of picking up 1 myself.. live in California....emissions are a B-I

@robertkwiatkoski1292 3 жыл бұрын

Just from my experience. Power stroke help said to change the upper oil 3x at each oil change. Meaning such it out replace. Run. Repeat. I striped the plug for the hpop reservoir. Had to wait to change it after I changed the regular oil. 75 to 100 miles later changed it. Dip stick oil is pristine. Did the upper 5x. Yes 5x and was still jet black. I have 1100 miles on my last oil change

@GrowingPains917 6 ай бұрын

Is there an easy way to change it 3-5times? Do you add oil to the Hpop after you suck it out?

@brianturck274 2 жыл бұрын

Just going to make this very simple... the only oil that is not circulated through the system, is the high pressurized oil, in the lines going to injectors... there is no return for that oil... everything else does eventually goes through the engines oil filter... the hpop tank can only hold a limited amount of oil.. and if you are taking out 1 quart of oil and adding three back, use your head the additional oil is heading to the oil pan... period.. you can't over fill the hpop, but you can overfill your engine oil by adding to much to the hpop...

@robertkwiatkoski1292 6 ай бұрын

if reference to my poast, i take the 1 quart out 3 times. I'm not a mechanic by any means but i can swear that I've done this many times and the upper oil in the reservoir and rails remains BLACK even after running the vehicle 75-100 miles after just changing the lower. I stripped the plug and had to wait for the parts. Thus I'm a believer in changing it.

@richardfalk963 3 жыл бұрын

Harbor freight has a nice hand pump for extract the oil out.

@bigesauto9413 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for input

@Bwanar1 Жыл бұрын

First, what you referred to, as the HPOP is merely a reservoir that holds oil for the high demand part of the starting procedure. The HPOP is under the fuel bowl reservoir. This oil circulates once it's sent to the injectors just like all the other oil. There is a debate about the value of changing it; however my opinion is, getting the most bad out before putting the good back in has to be a bonus. It should not effect the starting, if you have kept to a reasonable schedule of changing your oil. I think particles settle out of the oil and to the bottom of the tank every night when it sits. So that may be why it seems dirtier than the bulk oil.

@NoName-tz5ji 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re going to change the hpop reservoir oil at least do it for the right reason (to get all the old oil out of the engine) and do it the right way.( three times in a row idling five minutes in between). And any fool who thinks it don’t circulate needs to ask why trucks injectors and pump lasts here hundred of thousands of miles.

@michaelatkinson3871 4 күн бұрын

I agree. you can do that as part of a regular oil change to get more new oil in the system. Doing this without an oil change is a waste of time.

@tomoconnor7528 2 жыл бұрын

So true

@MoparMadness93 3 жыл бұрын

There’s no such thing as hpop oil people. Its the same oil that’s in the pan. Anyone else that tells you different doesn’t know shit about that engine. Oil goes from the pickup to the hpop reservoir to the hpop, comes out high pressure to the heads than to the injectors and out the injectors back to the pan

@bigesauto9413 3 жыл бұрын

This was never a discussion of hpop oil or not the point is that it should be changed..period

@MoparMadness93 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigesauto9413 it gets changed every time you change your oil. As soon as you start the engine fresh oil will start filling the reservoir as the old oil goes through the injection system

@smarternu 2 жыл бұрын

SPOT ON

@LAPARKA316 2 жыл бұрын

@@MoparMadness93 so when you change your engine oil there's old oil left at the HPOP and when engine starts it gets mixed in with the new oil that's what it sounds like to me

@MoparMadness93 2 жыл бұрын

@@LAPARKA316 correct

@robertkwiatkoski1292 3 жыл бұрын

Circulate with the block. If the engine life depends on (and injector life) why not change it? I only get a quart at a time. Some say the hope hold 3 quarts.

@robertkwiatkoski1292 3 жыл бұрын

Cont. Dip stick oil looks brand new. I'll bet you that the hope oil is jet black. To me it doesn't seem to

@tomoconnor7528 2 жыл бұрын

Do not use a plastic line to stick in there. Use a small steel brake line. Any pieces of plastic and bam, shit get stuck in injector. Also the solenoids on top of your injectors lose clearance. They make a shim kit for this.Incase this dont work. Also the O rings can go bad and cause low HPOP pressure. I bought mine new. And 4 years the thing wouldn't start when cold. Change the top HPOP oil and It starts in -10F no problem.

@bigesauto9413 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for input

@tomoconnor7528 2 жыл бұрын

@@bigesauto9413 you got it BIG ED

@DonaldRosane-rd2lt Жыл бұрын

High pressure oil pump. Hpop

@ghbcggjhhgg7855 2 жыл бұрын

This is bull crap your main engine oil pump feeds your hpop and you injectors have exhaust ports that put the oil back to the oil pan this does not help in any way shape or form

@jorgelemus7449 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, is it posible that the hpop oil reservoir never get full? We did an engine repair and when we fill the reservoir it tooks like 3 quarts of oil and it was no full. Can the oil go down without starting the engine?

@bigesauto9413 3 жыл бұрын

Honesty I'm not sure, I usually use about 2 qts

@paulzumpf3612 3 жыл бұрын

At about 1 inch below the plug, oil will start draining into the crankcase. In fact you can fill the engine through it it you want.

@bigesauto9413 3 жыл бұрын

@@paulzumpf3612 thanks for insight

@smarternu 2 жыл бұрын

No. It will always fill up. It can, however, leak back into the pan. If it "leaks down" the reservoir valve has failed and you will need to replace it, or crank like crazy to fill it up before it starts.

@paulzumpf3612 2 жыл бұрын

I stand by what I said.

@jbsservicesllc8336 2 жыл бұрын

OK, this guy doesn’t even know what an hpop is and we’re gonna listen to him on how to do maintenance? You do not need to change the oil in the reservoir of the hpop.

@beefcattle1543 4 ай бұрын

worst video ever. dont even show the engine.

@bigronwaggles404 3 ай бұрын

That little hole is for inspection only, if you change your oil regularly you don't have to do this!!!! Yes you will have a little old oil in the res but it's not worth your time.

@TBFISHINGTV Ай бұрын

What oil did you use for it?

@bigesauto9413 Ай бұрын

Shell Rotella

@TBFISHINGTV Ай бұрын

@@bigesauto9413 15w-40 correct

@TBFISHINGTV Ай бұрын

@@bigesauto9413 also my whole problem is that I was driving and my truck completely died on me and I tried to crank it and it just cranks doesn’t start so I replaced the Icp and camshaft sensor and that did nothing the fuel pump works and I took the cap off of my hpop and there was no oil do you think I just need to fill up the hpop with oil and will it start?

@bigesauto9413 Ай бұрын

I'm not 100% sure but try it

@bigesauto9413 Ай бұрын

@@TBFISHINGTV correct

@amerritt261 6 ай бұрын

The cause of the hard start is oil leak down. Replace your low pressure oil pump and you will solve the problem. After that consider replacing the hpop. It's not difficult. You can do the low pressure oil pump for $100 or less in a couple hours if you're as skilled as I think you are.

@michaelatkinson3871 4 күн бұрын

Yes, this is a controversial topic. If you know that the low-pres pump feeds the high-pressure reservoir to the high-pressure pump to the injectors and then into the top of the heads. Doing this has no effect except to change some oil in the top.

@amerritt261 4 күн бұрын

@@michaelatkinson3871 other than reducing leak down.

@tedpruitt8691 4 ай бұрын

Surly you not changing oil in hpop!

@blakevadnais5873 3 жыл бұрын

Complete waste of time low pressure oil pump feeds the hpop Reservoir right from the oil pan then the injectors dump the oil out and goes right back to the oil pan .

@Androth12 3 жыл бұрын

For real. I just seen this recently and I’m thinking to myself, what is the point of this? Sounds like a placebo effect.

@7.3psd_mafia75 3 жыл бұрын

This is untrue. I had milky oil in my truck due to valve covers off and it rained. I changed the oil pan oil. Ran the truck for a couple day and changed the HPOP oil and it was still milky. 🤷🏻

@blakevadnais5873 3 жыл бұрын

@@7.3psd_mafia75 then you still had water in all the oil not just the hpop

@7.3psd_mafia75 3 жыл бұрын

@@blakevadnais5873 nope oil pan oil was clean 🤷🏻

@blakevadnais5873 3 жыл бұрын

@@7.3psd_mafia75 how do you think the water got in the hpop oil then ? From the over head to oilpan to hpop

@chrisheyer1 2 жыл бұрын

The hpop reservoir circulates when the engine is running there is never no reason whatsoever ever ever to change that all it is always circulating with the system that makes no sense in doing that

@vincentsumner5232 2 жыл бұрын

Why is this a thing? If you seriously don’t know this is a complete waste of time and a joke please pay someone to change your oil.

@roman8747 2 жыл бұрын

You don't need to change the oil in the hpop. The oil gets circulated with the engine. You are wasting your time and money. That plug you are removing is for inspiration of the reservoir only. If you believe you need to change that what about the oil left in the heads.

@seasontour9464 2 жыл бұрын

what about the oil cooler

@roman8747 2 жыл бұрын

@@seasontour9464 all you need to do is change your oil. If you look up hpop myth there's a mechanic that has the whole system taken apart, he shows what's going on. That hole in the top that people are using to suck the oil out of the hpop is a sight hole. Anyway he's also got schismatics drawings.