Charcoal Vs Graphite- Differences in Shine, Laying down, Blending & Erasing

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In this video I talk about some differences between charcoal and graphite pencils.
MATERIALS FOR DRAWING:
Derwent Graphic pencils: geni.us/DerwentGraphicPencils
Kimberley 9xxb Pencil: geni.us/GeneralPencil9XXB
Tombow mono eraser: geni.us/TombowMonoEraser
Strathmore Bristol vellum paper: geni.us/StrathmoreBristolPaper
Generals Charcoal Pencils: geni.us/CharcoalDrawingSet
Electric Eraser: geni.us/DerwentElectricEraser
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHARCOAL & GRAPHITE
I talk about the differences between charcoal and graphite in shine, blending ( with a paintbrush, stump and tissue), erasing (with a kneaded eraser and electric eraser). I will also talk about the differences in tone you can get with charcoal and graphite. I personally prefer to work in charcoal. I never work in graphite because of the strong shine you get. I believe this takes away from the realism of the drawing. The one downfall to charcoal is that it can get very messy to work with!
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@INMATE2468 4 жыл бұрын

you can use matte fixatives on finished graphite work. It completely removes the shine.

@hobbybaschtler7896 4 жыл бұрын

I will try this, thx

@girthquake891 7 жыл бұрын

General's kimberly pencils and Staedtler pencils barely have any shine to them, while Derwent pencils have a ton of shine. I'd recommend getting Kimberlys or Staedtlers bacause they have more clay, and therefore less shine :)

@shawndao3032 4 жыл бұрын

I kept thinking your profile pic was a piece and kept trying to run it off

@AzureSymbiote 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@ash2092013 7 жыл бұрын

i've never put so much thought into this but you covered a lot and i've learned a lot. i can't wait until my next drawing to apply myself with what i leaned on this video. thanks for the upload.

@cheryls_creative7048 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you, this was really helpful.

@rkhrd3211 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome tutorial, thanks!

@mizo2452 7 жыл бұрын

great tutorial, so much info

@claudemaximus9409 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much really appreciate you posting

@bluntswithrickybobby 2 жыл бұрын

This helped me immensely! Thank you so much!

@imogenx5668 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, thank you

@ksuhuh 5 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've recently learned that when you use a sharp point to slowly and gently creep up on the value over several layers with pencil, you can get quite dark without shine. If you press hard and try to get the value in 1 or two passes and using an inappropriate hardness, yeah, it's going to shine like hell. In atelier type schools where they start off with bargue pencil drawings, you can spend 10 minutes on 1 cm2 just passing over it layering on the graphite to get the right value. It's time consuming, but it's also super controlled. Charcoal is great for getting those deeper darks quickly. But with H charcoal, you can be quite controlled in the lights as well, just use a really sharp point and ever so gently shade it. Also, if you switch between layers in a narrow X type angle( so one layer like this //////// and the next \\\\\\), it'll be much smoother than a + shape( one layer like this |||||| and the next ===)alternation. Hope this helps!

@AlejandraRafa 4 жыл бұрын

This comment is very useful. Thank you!

@slanguagefreak2388 4 жыл бұрын

Even with the layering, I still find the graphite to be o shiny of my liking and not as deep, rich and dark as charcoal.

@ksuhuh 4 жыл бұрын

Wrong Turn don’t go any softer than 2B and use a properly pored paper like fabriano accademia 200+ something. Also don’t go over passages of tone with dull hard tips

@ksuhuh 4 жыл бұрын

Wrong Turn kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJmnebqD1sjNZKs.html here’s a vid I did (in Dutch) for a client with mental disability, but it shows the proper way of sharpening and applying.

@slanguagefreak2388 4 жыл бұрын

@@ksuhuh I don't. It still has some shine to it. It has really turned me off. The only thing that takes away the shine is fixative. But I don't like using it because it changes the values a little bit.

@cgflip5242 8 жыл бұрын

thank you do much 😻

@theartofzachdames4109 8 жыл бұрын

Great turtorial!

@KirstyPartridgeArt 8 жыл бұрын

thank you :)

@pentachronic 5 жыл бұрын

My take. Electric erasers actually scorch or scar the paper and ruin the tooth of the paper. I can see the marks after using an electric eraser on the paper.

@reginaregina276 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I recently bought a sketching set and it comes from charcoal but i don't understand what it is for.

@RixCanDoit 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the compare.

@kiaschannel1678 6 жыл бұрын

RIX XD

@ShannonRochon 4 жыл бұрын

The newish Mars Lumi Black pencils supposedly completely eliminate the shine issues in darker grads of graphite, similarly to carbon pencils but with a better transition between the two. I'll be trying them out. I love charcoal generally but I really dislike it for hair...it's just not sharp enough. Someone else mentioned a Matt Clead Acrylic coat to take away the shine but I'm not convinced that would help with keeping the tonal values. I'd have to try it but I'm admittedly reluctant to potentially ruin a graphite piece...

@lifeismusicparnadonkers Жыл бұрын

I love that grainy textured look on the blended charcole

@bryanmartin9420 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again excellent

@sujilss1867 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks madam..😍

@geertjanjanssen5983 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful

@patytrico 5 жыл бұрын

Excelent! Very useful analisis :) Thank you for share it ;D

@Groundhog6142 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to show people how to start drawing. I liked your video.

7 жыл бұрын

Great video

@quilikestrel 6 жыл бұрын

First, I like your accent, and voice too. Then I want to say that this video was very useful to me. Thanks. Saludos desde Ecuador.

@jzellie3441 6 жыл бұрын

Can u do more graphite tutorial and how to use them, like how u do with color pencils? Thank u.

@1995marixsa 2 жыл бұрын

IF YOUR SKETCHING OR WANT YOUR DESING TO HAVE A SHINE GRAPHITE IS A GO, IF YOU WANT A MATTE LOOK FOR YOUR DESIGN GO FOR CHARCOAL, BOTH HAVE THEIR UP AND DOWN, 1 ITS HARDER TO FILL DARKER SPACE, AND THE OTHER APART FROM BEING MESSY ITS REALLY DARK AND HARDER TO ERASE. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO I LEARN ALOT; BOTH GREAT.

@patrickmcmullen1190 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Kirsty, I'm a little confused about when to use if ever, the vine and willow charcoal vrs the compressed pencil charcoals. I'm used to using graphite. Can i get by just using the charcoal pencils in difference grades and using them for shading just as i have done with graphite? The thought of using uncompressed stick kind of scares me because of lack of control. Can you give some specifics of when the uncompressed sticks would come in handy?

@catcastle4377 5 жыл бұрын

I know this is so long ago, but I learned from another video (I forgot the title) compressed pencils is darker and harder to erase than willow/vine charcoal, I think. Use the willow vine when you start your drawing and when you lay down the light and dark parts. Then use the compressed pencil charcoals for details and for much darker and smaller parts. I love using vine charcoal more, it gives me more freedom :D

@mj-tw9zq 5 жыл бұрын

Hi! I was just wondering if its possible to disguise the charcoal pencil as a black colour pencil? Thanks.

@cosmic.raspberri 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching art videos and there was this man with the same accent. I also noticed that both said “hach” which is unlike what North Americans’ (Not an accent to me) accent we say “ach”.

@tiagonovak6687 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm from Brazil! I see your videos and I like so much. Congratulations May you make tutorial who use graphite an charcoal together? Congratulations again for tutorials

@mikimiko6259 3 жыл бұрын

That Is Nice But You Can Show As To Try How To Fix Our Skething Problame In Detale

@friabarade2857 2 жыл бұрын

which is better to sketch portraits?

@xras66 Жыл бұрын

The Best!!!

@AzureSymbiote 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@ibnusinart9807 7 жыл бұрын

nice

@quanathan 8 ай бұрын

so you dont got to use charcoal spray to make it stay on ? what would be the difference if i diduse it ?

@maniabed3720 3 жыл бұрын

What brushes did u use for blending? I’m looking for the good one for charcol drawing. Thanks in advance 🙏🏼

@lexiharon9088 3 жыл бұрын

Hey you can use any fluffy brush

@emadmoussa2576 3 жыл бұрын

I never understood why some people think graphite and charcoal are comparable media.

@Yourmothercheebye19 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, just wondering, why did u put the liquid on the "erasing" section? Is it your method of highlighting a drawing in contrast to shading?

@brittanyisthebest1203 7 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@co41reyesjohnharold82 6 жыл бұрын

its not liquid eraser. its electric eraser

@mirindaafework2419 2 жыл бұрын

True

@catherinec3650 2 жыл бұрын

What is the exact type of paper you are using please?

@Motherfuckinhead 6 жыл бұрын

what kind of eraser is that???

@prototypep4 8 жыл бұрын

Try Staedtler graphite pencils. No shine plus much darker than Derwent.

@anarchypizza8840 6 жыл бұрын

P3 Gaming I prefer Derwent. Honestly my favourite is Faber Castell though.

@alexandrachirino639 6 жыл бұрын

Faber Castel is my favorite, but I also like using the sticks and vines of charcoal

@anarchypizza8840 6 жыл бұрын

The Bamboo Crew Same, Derwent has better charcoal though.

@manu-iman 5 жыл бұрын

How to sharpen them? Every time i did, led breaks

@erikitter6773 5 жыл бұрын

draftsmen do it with sharp knives/ razor blades for pencils and sand paper for charcoal sticks (little reason to use charcoal pens at all). I prefer sand paper even for graphite using technical pens with leads (graphite ffs!) of multiple hardness and diameter (have a look for Faber Castell for example [0.35, 0.5, 0.7, 2.0 and 3.5 mm and 5H to 6B {for reasons simple to imagine high B numbers only in wide diameters, but you can even sand paper down 0.35 further and make 3.5 as sharp as well}]). Charcoal, once you've learned how to use it (or if money is not a concern do it right away) try Nitram sticks.

@LuisSOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

The shiness in the Charcol shines in his ausence

@peridot2263 6 жыл бұрын

what are best for beginners ? charcoal or graphite?

@jpwartist 6 жыл бұрын

I use both mediums. I would say learn with graphite, it's cleaner, easier to erase mistakes and when you are competent with graphite and understanding values it makes learning to use charcoal easier. Also i would say go from graphite to carbon pencils then onto charcoal. Carbon pencils are a good Inbetween, they have qualities of both graphite and charcoal.

@peridot2263 6 жыл бұрын

tnnx i'll take note of it :)

@kurosakiichigo3721 6 жыл бұрын

grade of the graphite???

5 жыл бұрын

@lenardbobster6202 6 жыл бұрын

It's a matter of opinion!!!!

@otakisenpai8377 5 жыл бұрын

I dont like the shine i want to get more darker tone as I put more pressure using graphite to darker down the tone it gives me that shine and I dont want that

@annansubuga8307 4 жыл бұрын

Just use a softer graphite, mitsubishi hi uni graphite pencils are good

@gregorioresendez6653 5 жыл бұрын

I love u🤤 ..your so smart😍

@Subholik3 4 жыл бұрын

i like charcoal !

@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear 6 жыл бұрын

what about carbon?

@erikitter6773 5 жыл бұрын

What are you asking about? Both are (mainly) carbon as well as diamonds are (well, they tend to be pretty pure carbon...) for example. Carbon is just the chemical element C. charcoal and graphite are two of the common lattice structures both with the nice property to shear of layers in easy and predictable ways making them well suited for drawing. Carbon fibre for example much less so, diamonds... You are (with the exception of fluids [being a bag holding water mainly) mostly carbon as well. That is why your bones make ivory black when being heat treated... Nice stuff those C-atoms bonding to all kinds of stuff in all kinds of ways and so forth. I hate it when in English you are talking about carbon footprint instead of CO_2 equivalent footprint but please do not carry this into arts, too.

@LeviathanKoda 5 жыл бұрын

lol they are talking about carbon pencils lmao

@MikhaelAhava 5 жыл бұрын

Erik Itter wouldn’t carbon footprint include both CO2 and CO?

@SubNorm4L 5 жыл бұрын

@@erikitter6773 He's talking about "Carbon" pencils like Lyra Carbon or Carbotello, they're like oil based charcoal. A bit similar to conté

@feliscattus8712 3 жыл бұрын

5:43 WHAT IS THE ERASER,S NAME?

@FineArtforChrist 3 жыл бұрын

It is the Derwent electric eraser, she has a link to it in this videos description. Hope this is helpful!

@Gamer212Xtreme 2 жыл бұрын

I also hate shine lol. Good video.

@Tanjohncarlo 5 жыл бұрын

Heitch B??????? DA HECK?!!!

@mateusalves3022 5 жыл бұрын

She's probably Australian :)

@-touya_todoroki 5 жыл бұрын

@@mateusalves3022 its not hard to say a ch insted of heitch

@Sunscorched 5 жыл бұрын

@@mateusalves3022 She's UK :) I say Haytch, too LOL

@Saul_Goodman_Criminal_Lawyer 4 жыл бұрын

We're here for the art. Not for Language expert wannabe.

@hariharanjs8707 3 жыл бұрын

@@Saul_Goodman_Criminal_Lawyer it's all about aet right?

@whosamber 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone in art rn?

@slanguagefreak2388 4 жыл бұрын

"I hate sine and that is why I will never use graphite" - I can totally relate.

@paulwoodford6229 2 жыл бұрын

People are very biased against Graphite, even though it is a far superior medium.

@ThomasDobosz 2 жыл бұрын

Why is it superior?

@KenStentiford 5 жыл бұрын

HB, NOT haytch B.

@rebeccamaylard2312 6 жыл бұрын

T'as qu'à prendre un graphite 8B et ça va être hyper noir..

@lifeismusicparnadonkers Жыл бұрын

I only wanna use charcole pencils. No graphite pencils.

@tentandoumcover 7 жыл бұрын

Your english is different, are you American or not?

@artchill2851 6 жыл бұрын

Tentando Um Cover she is clearly Australian

@usamanasher6852 6 жыл бұрын

Nope... She's not Australian... She is from England

@jpwartist 6 жыл бұрын

Not everyone from England speaks like the royal family and James Bond.