Charlemagne, the barbarian king crowned Roman Emperor three centuries after the empire fell.

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4 жыл бұрын

Why was Charles the Great King of the Franks crowned Roman Emperor in 800 ad, over three centuries after the Empire’s fall? What about the idea of the Roman Empire was so inspiring that German kings continued to be crowned as Holy Roman Emperors for a thousand years after Charlemagne’s death?

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@intellectz644
@intellectz644 3 жыл бұрын
History nerds are crazy, always informing the speaker instead of asking questions xD
@telleroftales5309
@telleroftales5309 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, did you have a question? ;)
@intellectz644
@intellectz644 2 жыл бұрын
@@telleroftales5309 I see what you did there hahaha
@MrPlazmaWalker
@MrPlazmaWalker 2 жыл бұрын
These types give other nerds a bad wrap
@martinmorrissey5647
@martinmorrissey5647 2 жыл бұрын
A good speaker will always captivate their class and the class then want to captivate them back,
@FuzzyDunlots
@FuzzyDunlots 2 жыл бұрын
Because experts are wrong and we are seeking a complete contextualization of events and not the perspective of some expert. Every human that speaks about history inputs their bias into it.
@koboldgeorge2140
@koboldgeorge2140 Жыл бұрын
I find the transformation of the roman imperial titles absolutely fascinating. In the letters between the HRE and byzantines you can see the rulers struggle with the idea of what a 2nd emperor, and indeed two empires, might mean. It's a fascinating counterpoint to the chinese imperial system.
@AoE2Replays
@AoE2Replays 2 жыл бұрын
This really makes me feel like im back in class in university. except, in the comfort of my home, very nice. thanks guys!
@edvaneckert2348
@edvaneckert2348 2 жыл бұрын
So amazing! For me as a Franconian German living in Hamburg your lecture is so enlighting! Thanks so much!
@rockstar450
@rockstar450 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly riddled with oversights as I pointed out above
@herzkine
@herzkine 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockstar450 agree, but i love the broad approach to so many topics. Every halfway expert sees the flaws in the detail, but in every topic the approach is honest and gives very interesting insights far from just superficial " common knowledge" and prejudices. Yes, because its is so often generally good, i DO get the cringe too often when it is ..."debatable"...
@earlofrednecks9533
@earlofrednecks9533 2 жыл бұрын
How there isn't a bunch of movies about this guy is beyond me
@HappyCatholicDane
@HappyCatholicDane 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, or an HBO/Netflix series.
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 2 жыл бұрын
It is odd. Charlemagne was just as important to medieval literature as King Arthur, and yet today, we see King Arthur everywhere, but no Charlemagne.
@thefutureisnowoldman7653
@thefutureisnowoldman7653 2 жыл бұрын
@@cariboubearmalachy1174 because anglo's
@Killerbee_McTitties
@Killerbee_McTitties 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefutureisnowoldman7653 wouldn't stop the French or German film industry from making one. Maybe it has something to do with a lack of potential for political narratives within the story, I mean it's filled with strong, christian, white men.
@chrisramsey6725
@chrisramsey6725 Жыл бұрын
@@HappyCatholicDane Dont hold your breath on that. He is the wrong color to make a series out of these days
@Carlos-ke3pj
@Carlos-ke3pj 6 ай бұрын
This lectures are like gold
@martinmorrissey5647
@martinmorrissey5647 2 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his history, one of my favourite sites
@Andrew-rd9zq
@Andrew-rd9zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@aleksadjordjevic9811 Get over yourself. "Every fact wrong", ridiculous.
@user-qt4qp6bj1q
@user-qt4qp6bj1q 4 ай бұрын
I have always wanted a better understanding of this transition. That was very helpful. Many Thanks
@trapperscout2046
@trapperscout2046 3 жыл бұрын
I heard someone once refer to medieval Germany as a cartographer's nightmare.
@justmoritz
@justmoritz 2 жыл бұрын
It was also a peasant's nightmare
@alangriffin8146
@alangriffin8146 5 ай бұрын
First Centre Place lecture I ever watched. I’m watching it for the third time now. I love these
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
Couple of little mistakes here -Galicia in Poland/Ukraine doesn't derive its name from the Gauls or Celts but from the kingdom of Halicz which was one of the principalities ruled by the Kievan Rus -"Galicia" is the Latinized form of "Halicz" and the name "Wales" is not related to "Gaul" at all though the French form "Galles" may suggest it -it's actually from a Germanic word meaning "foreigner" and the same root is found in place names like Wallachia in Romania and Wallonia in Belgium -it's what the Germanic peoples called the romanized inhabitants of some of the areas they took over.
@doliver6886
@doliver6886 Жыл бұрын
Great lecture! These questions should be held until the end though.
@tomcustis9272
@tomcustis9272 2 жыл бұрын
Woman gouges out her child’s eyes and he dies ‘He might have been a bad ruler. We wouldn’t want to judge her…’ Hardcore
@nosuchthingasshould4175
@nosuchthingasshould4175 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the Galicia in Poland was a name imposed by the occupying Austrians, to negate the Polish or Ukrainian heritage of those lands.The name stuck though, we still use it. (Edit) Also the word for king in Slavic languages is derived from Carl, be it król, korol, Karol, chral etc. (second edit) I need to stop commenting before I finished watching.
@olligo330
@olligo330 Жыл бұрын
I think it is much better to tell everyone to hold off questions until the end. They can write them down if worried they'll forget, as surely you will still be able to answer their questions at the end. All the interruptions really make it hard to stay on focus, even though you do a good job staying on topic. But it really gets frustrating with all the interruptions as most of us are focused on following your storyline.
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 10 ай бұрын
I fast-forward the questions or comments because they are grating or trying to show off their trivia knowledge.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 6 ай бұрын
@@notsocrates9529 *_"I fast-forward the questions or comments because they are grating or trying to show off their trivia knowledge."_* That is SO true, I do the same and I've commented to him he should tell them to shut up until the end. They are just showing off that they've read some book or other, and contribute nothing to the presentation. But this was three years ago, he seems to reserve questions until the end now. {:o:O:}
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 6 ай бұрын
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Thank you for validating this curmudgeons opinion. Yes, he has gotten better about allowing the audience to interject and stop the flow of things.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 6 ай бұрын
@@notsocrates9529 😃
@jamesfranklin458
@jamesfranklin458 6 ай бұрын
i dont mind them at all
@jameshilford6108
@jameshilford6108 12 күн бұрын
Excellent - thank you!
@simplyroger2763
@simplyroger2763 3 жыл бұрын
Have to visit his shrine in Aachen, Germany
@heressomestuffifound
@heressomestuffifound 2 жыл бұрын
Visited it as a teenager. Very impressive to say the least.
@BaskingInObscurity
@BaskingInObscurity 2 жыл бұрын
Despite efforts to extinguish Breton by such things as banning its use in schools, it has many native speakers still. Unfortunately the scope of vocabulary and numbers of native speakers for whom Breton is their first or primary language have diminished. While there is now some effort to provide bilingual education, the number of fluent speakers will soon drop below one hundred thousand. Other extant languages latinic languages, e.g. Occitan, have experienced somewhat of a resurgence, they too are disappearing as primary languages and therefore lexicons falling out of use, even though they enjoy the familiarity of adjacent languages, including French.
@tadmcdougall
@tadmcdougall 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent presentation that was informative and engaging. I just wish that there were fewer interruptions from the audience.
@megatronmotors221
@megatronmotors221 2 жыл бұрын
His personality reminds me of the Egyptian expert in the movie Stargate giving the lecture at the beginning of the movie.
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 2 жыл бұрын
"The Byzantine empire was clearly, despite its multinational dimension, a Greek empire while its neighbours considered it so, and whose unity was based on the power of authority, in the dominance of Orthodoxy and the use of Greek as the official language." Sylvain Gouguenheim, "La gloire des Grecs", 2017, pp. 73
@herzkine
@herzkine 2 жыл бұрын
...thats an opinion...i seldom see mirrored in historical texts...they may speak greek, but the empire is seen as the successor of rome not Athens or sparta.
@MartinhoRamos1990
@MartinhoRamos1990 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation
@CarsonPowers
@CarsonPowers 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched over 10 hours of this guy and I don't know his name X__X Should write it somewhere in the title/description; you're a great speaker!
@dorkgirlalamode
@dorkgirlalamode 2 жыл бұрын
And qualifications (and institution) or maybe a bibliography, please...
@riekiemitchell9651
@riekiemitchell9651 2 жыл бұрын
John Hannon. Google him.
@jukukalle100
@jukukalle100 2 жыл бұрын
@@riekiemitchell9651 cant find him, could you be more specific, maybe a university or sth that he's connected to. would like to know his qualifications
@riekiemitchell9651
@riekiemitchell9651 2 жыл бұрын
@@jukukalle100 John R. Hamer. I think I did a typo on his name. He is Canadian, a non-denomination pastor and studied History. There is a piece on him on Wikipedia. Hope you find it.
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody called Charlemagne's Empire "the Holy Roman Empire". It was simply the Frankish Empire, and Charlemagne bore the title "King of the Franks and of the Langobards". The name "Holy Roman Empire" did not appear before the second half of the twelfth century, more than 300 years after Charlemagne's death. Before that, there were just the West Franconian kingdom (regnum Francia occidentalis) and the East Franconian kingdom (regnum Francia orientalis).
@ilcondottierocartografo6770
@ilcondottierocartografo6770 2 жыл бұрын
hmm
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilcondottierocartografo6770 The name "sacer imperium" is first documented in 1154. As for "sacer imperium Romanum", it is controversial whether it was first mentioned in an official document in 1184 or 1254. The designation "regnum teutonicum" can already be found in the 11th century, but this was never the official name of the realm but a term of papal propaganda denying the succession of the East Frankish rulers from the West Roman emperors. The official name of the East Frankish Empire was rather "regnum Francorum orientalium" until at least the midst of the 12th century. If you know better, please feel free to tell us.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne certainly used the title “emperor of the Romans” during his life.
@karlvonboldt
@karlvonboldt Жыл бұрын
The Germans claim him as Karl der Grosse, a German Emperor.
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 Жыл бұрын
@@karlvonboldt It is true that "Karl der Große" is the German name of Charlemagne. But this does not make him a German emperor. He was a Frank only, and the Frankish Empire included, next to territories belonging to Germany today (or the German speaking area, respectively, like Austria and Switzerland), Gaul (Neustria, Aquitaine, Provence) and Northern and Central Italy. In the eastern part of the empire were several subject Germanic tribes resident under Frankish rule (Alemanni, Bavarians, Thuringians, Saxons etc.) but an ethnogenesis of these tribes to a German nation (or people) had not happend yet. Thus it is historically inaccurate to describe Charlemagne as "a German emperor".
@TheCookieGamer523
@TheCookieGamer523 2 жыл бұрын
The Celtic expansion into Spain happened in the Bronze Age along with Gaul and Britain. They then during the Roman Republic period expand eastwards into Turkey and down into Italy again. They did displace people but thousands of years prior.
@MDE1992
@MDE1992 2 жыл бұрын
The Frankish language Charlemagne spoke was not an ancestor of modern German, but more of the modern Dutch and Flemish languages. Modern German descended from the southern dialects in Germany (High German).
@jordank5328
@jordank5328 2 жыл бұрын
I've been Roman Catholic and I've been orthodox, the eastern church definitely has way more reference for Icons at this point.
@sebastianlangley8900
@sebastianlangley8900 4 ай бұрын
What is your faith now Jordan?
@rccarothers
@rccarothers 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is Amazingly Smart!
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation on Late Roman Early Medieval Times. Who is the professor and where is the lecture taking place?
@bakters
@bakters 2 жыл бұрын
He's a pastor of some atheistic church of Jesus. They just do those lectures for their disciples. Crazy, I know. It's a black hole, though. If you click on it once, their stuff will keep on popping up in your recommendations, and since nothing else is as interesting you click again, so the snowball keeps getting bigger. He's a historian by trade, at least. I remember him saying so.
@Killerbee_McTitties
@Killerbee_McTitties 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakters "atheistic church of Jesus" uh, what?
@bakters
@bakters 2 жыл бұрын
@@Killerbee_McTitties "uh, what?" A hyperbole, obviously. But seriously, they have this church of Jesus, which does not even require you to believe in anything, so atheism is perfectly viable. I suspect, not very rare among them either.
@Killerbee_McTitties
@Killerbee_McTitties 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakters Religion never ceases to surprise andf amaze me.
@Andrew-rd9zq
@Andrew-rd9zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakters Get a grip.
@martinmorrissey5647
@martinmorrissey5647 2 жыл бұрын
Its a shame there are not more teachers of this standard
@Stadtpark90
@Stadtpark90 2 жыл бұрын
9:05 didn’t expect that... - Mormons and their fixation with genealogy- rofl
@christianmyhre7154
@christianmyhre7154 2 жыл бұрын
Good content
@FuneralProcession
@FuneralProcession 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Charles Vs scepter is 100 fold more expensive then the actual throne of Charlemagne in Aachen (it's made from wood and throne is not the appropriate discription)
@MrX-dl5if
@MrX-dl5if 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like an informative history lecture like Rome was an actual Holy Empire. What's up with the video/audio mismatch?
@tngrrl73
@tngrrl73 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's distracting.
@Mr_X444
@Mr_X444 2 жыл бұрын
Same name.
@Britonbear
@Britonbear 2 жыл бұрын
Is the word 'Wales' is related to 'Gauls'? I thought it came from the English 'weles', meaning foreigner or speaker of a foreign language.
@weignerleigner3037
@weignerleigner3037 Жыл бұрын
He chose Aachen because he wanted it to make it easier for civilization 6 developers to create a holy Roman character and a Roman character.
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 2 жыл бұрын
With the collapse of the empire in the west, its eastern counterpart became, in reality, an entirely new and independent state, at once Greek by language and Roman in name: 'A Greek Roman empire'." Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021, pp. 212
@bob_joe48
@bob_joe48 Жыл бұрын
Took a ancestory test and apparently I’m directly related to him lol y’all better treat me with some respect
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 2 жыл бұрын
Frankfurt isnt in Franconia! It's in Hessen! Franconia ("Franken" in German) is in Bavaria.
@lukel7660
@lukel7660 2 жыл бұрын
Impossible to watch. There is like a 30 seconds mismatch between audio a video.
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 2 жыл бұрын
Something wrong with your connection, WiFi /Internet speed
@eldraque4556
@eldraque4556 2 жыл бұрын
excellent
@simonleonard5431
@simonleonard5431 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch these lectures, Google's algorithm assumes I'm either Christian or whack a job (read seriously Christian) .
@markvonwisco7369
@markvonwisco7369 2 жыл бұрын
Same. The algorithm spams me with apologist videos. Earlier today, I had a Robin Bullock video recommended to me!
@lordenkidu1876
@lordenkidu1876 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that some Christians are gathering in this thread, guards! Over here! there are 2 of them.
@AthosJosue
@AthosJosue 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, what's the difference.
@silentotto5099
@silentotto5099 2 жыл бұрын
My wife's uncle is Welsh. Back in the 1950s he was in the British army and spent some time in France. Once he and a few of his army buddies were riding on a train when this stunning French girl got aboard. All the guys took a run at her, but she shot them all down in flames. Finally, my wife's uncle took his shot, and somehow she realized he was Welsh. It turned out that she was a Brenton and apparently the people of Brittney had warm feeling for the Welsh as they were fellow Celts. She'd given the cold shoulder to all the British, but she was very happy to chat with a Welshman. So, he ended up having a very enjoyable train ride.
@chicks-on-the-loose
@chicks-on-the-loose 2 жыл бұрын
We were taught that central Europe, the Alps was the place where the Kelts came from, and that genetically the dark haired, short, stocky central European race is most related to them - hence the darker haired people of Wales and Western Ireland.
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын
not only from the mountains...
@awhite2501
@awhite2501 Жыл бұрын
Gaelic and Celtic is a yeddish language forced onto the native of the UK .the natives originally spoke hebrew or aramaic before before the invasions.
@SuprSilvr
@SuprSilvr 3 жыл бұрын
The audience keeps derailing the lecture with their tangential questions.
@TheNotthediver
@TheNotthediver 3 жыл бұрын
It's just Canadians Ooo I'm excited I know something about this one eh
@phataton8206
@phataton8206 2 жыл бұрын
Almost every college class in history.
@Jasper_the_Cat
@Jasper_the_Cat 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I'm in the US and I'm sure we're just as bad, probably a lot worse.
@shantoreywilkins651
@shantoreywilkins651 2 жыл бұрын
👑
@lkrnpk
@lkrnpk 2 жыл бұрын
in Latvian we call him Kārlis Lielais, pretty much we took it from Germans, Karl the Great
@johncollins211
@johncollins211 Жыл бұрын
I'm really confused as he's talking about protestant lands but it's still like 750 years before Martin luther.
@stephananthonyvanscoter1292
@stephananthonyvanscoter1292 5 ай бұрын
I'm a Grandson from King Charlemagne also King Neill ( Oneill).
@ndbaker74
@ndbaker74 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't finish this due to how rude theroom is. Let the man lecture! The constant interruptions ruined this.
@cariboubearmalachy1174
@cariboubearmalachy1174 2 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne wasn't the one who conquered Aquitaine, it was his father Pepin the Short! You can see it on the map!
@coritillman1423
@coritillman1423 2 жыл бұрын
So many interruptions...rude
@RandomNorwegianGuy.
@RandomNorwegianGuy. 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone that thinks that the Holy Roman Empire was just a big mess. Remember that it lasted for almost 1000 years
@AthosJosue
@AthosJosue 2 жыл бұрын
It was a big mess, a long lasting mess but a mess nonetheless.
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын
@@AthosJosue What is the roman catholic church? and how long does it last already?
@Melanrick
@Melanrick Жыл бұрын
Great, it was a big mess that lasted 1000 years...
@nailil5722
@nailil5722 Жыл бұрын
the implicit scope of the HRE was an eventual unification (theorized under the Habsburg) but this never happened. Eventually a heavily militarized Prussia took all of that mess to rest to unify it as Germany.
@williamshepley3923
@williamshepley3923 2 жыл бұрын
Dude busting out laughing reminds Beavis and Butt-Head for a teacher 😂
@evalationx2649
@evalationx2649 2 жыл бұрын
Dude laughs at very odd times. "Lots of people died." *snort laugh*
@brucecampbell6578
@brucecampbell6578 2 жыл бұрын
History is recorded by the victors. Usually butchers and sociopathic megalomaniacs. I would say the Romans themselves had/have a very cynical sense of humor. Perhaps a trait acquired by those who can read between the lines of the official narrative?
@Jasper_the_Cat
@Jasper_the_Cat 2 жыл бұрын
I think for some people it's more like a facial tick...not something they're truly laughing at, just a bit of anxious/awkward laughter?
@xianseah4847
@xianseah4847 2 жыл бұрын
Religion or country, its just an excuse for legal slaughter.
@cormacmcquillan828
@cormacmcquillan828 2 жыл бұрын
So was charlamagne crowned in 1753 AD?
@cormacmcquillan828
@cormacmcquillan828 2 жыл бұрын
"three centuries after the Roman Empire fell" hmmmm.... If that's true then why was there a state until 1453 that was the exact same one as... The Roman Empire?
@Someone-vq6jk
@Someone-vq6jk 2 жыл бұрын
He is probably referring to the west empire
@cormacmcquillan828
@cormacmcquillan828 2 жыл бұрын
@@Someone-vq6jk there was never a separate empire, just one roman empire with two Emperors. The roman empire didn't fall until 1453
@Someone-vq6jk
@Someone-vq6jk 2 жыл бұрын
@@cormacmcquillan828 yes I know but the west didn’t survive, so he was probably referring to the west when he says the empire fell
@imemberberry
@imemberberry 2 жыл бұрын
Goths took over and occupied most Roman territory in the west. The Franks were already former Roman allies, hellenized, and understood how Rome functioned. Goths commonly just adopted whatever local system was there to hold the new territory more easily. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Vandals did the same thing in Carthage.
@FuneralProcession
@FuneralProcession 2 жыл бұрын
Has there ever been a century without major war in the region of Germany?
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 2 жыл бұрын
No. Not even the 21st. It's called commerce in the EU.
@Andrew-rd9zq
@Andrew-rd9zq 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this will be the century. The EU seems to prefer sticking its head in the sand now, compared to the region's past tendency of sticking its hands everywhere.
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-rd9zq hm?!
@zitta915
@zitta915 Жыл бұрын
He is my 34th grandfather
@darktimes9139
@darktimes9139 3 жыл бұрын
Was king Charlemagne a knights Templar cause some pictures show him wearing a Red Cross on his tunic and battling gear
@HappyCatholicDane
@HappyCatholicDane 2 жыл бұрын
No, the crusading orders came much later.
@sandrafocht3051
@sandrafocht3051 3 жыл бұрын
Careful
@superresistant8041
@superresistant8041 Жыл бұрын
I too descent from Charlemagne.
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
French was invented in a town close to paris The name is something like frence
@Silvertestrun
@Silvertestrun 2 жыл бұрын
Ty
@megatronmotors221
@megatronmotors221 2 жыл бұрын
The grandfather of Europe the mighty Charles the Great!
@lesguil4023
@lesguil4023 2 жыл бұрын
no
@johngreene7130
@johngreene7130 2 жыл бұрын
Landgrave? Dont you mean “ graaf” which would be an “ earl”?
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 2 жыл бұрын
A "graf" was originally a royal officer with adminstrative functions. Later on, the title became hereditary. The English word "sheriff" derives from Old English "shir-gerefa" who was originally a royal officeholder with a similar function. A "Landgraf" was a graf who had judicial power over free men and nobles. It's difficult to translate this word into English. Also Google translator translates it with "landgrave". I think "(upper) count" would be more accurate.
@johngreene7130
@johngreene7130 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.norbertneumann4986 that's very interesting, I actually am living near Aachen and close to a town in Dutch limburg called " Landgraaf ".
@piushalg5041
@piushalg5041 7 ай бұрын
Charlemagne clearly spoke Franqish which was a West Germanic language and had no affiliation to Old French apart from being Indo-European. The German tribes would have understood him unlike the Gallo-Roman speaking subjects.
@ladycharlenegrace8023
@ladycharlenegrace8023 2 жыл бұрын
Aw. I wish we could see his presentation.... not the ppl he spoke to....
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t a barbarian the franks were already latinized by the battle of the catalaunian fields in the 5th century. I believe his mother spoke no Frankish
@stub2022
@stub2022 2 жыл бұрын
This. 👆
@luciano9755
@luciano9755 2 жыл бұрын
But it makes for a clickbaity title...
@sebastianlangley8900
@sebastianlangley8900 4 ай бұрын
Does the Patriarch of Rome, the Bishop Leo have the authority to appoint someone to be Emperor?
@isaacshultz8128
@isaacshultz8128 2 жыл бұрын
Sad that he didn't call him Karl Der Große
@Emil-Antonowsky
@Emil-Antonowsky 2 жыл бұрын
The interruptions are unbearable. Rude and disrespectfu behaviour. They have forgotten the face of their fathers.
@Hermetic_
@Hermetic_ 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a quote from The Dark Tower? Gun Slinger?
@Emil-Antonowsky
@Emil-Antonowsky 2 жыл бұрын
Hile Mike of the D, You can set your watch and warrant on it.
@Hermetic_
@Hermetic_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emil-Antonowsky You say true. I say thank you.
@Emil-Antonowsky
@Emil-Antonowsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hermetic_ Long days and pleasant nights to ye, Sai.
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
Charlemagne was from pepin rolo the viking In 400 you has also attila the hun
@timhammick8230
@timhammick8230 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware, Britain was never part of the HRE?
@lowersaxon
@lowersaxon 2 жыл бұрын
No, not a day.
@tezz2698
@tezz2698 2 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Da Silva ssj4 HRE was not the Roman Empire. It was it's own thing entirely.
@davidesguario2151
@davidesguario2151 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. At the time there was no Englaland and Britain was divided between different anglo-saxon and celtic kingdoms, the most important being Mercia. His king Offa maintained good relationships with Charles.
@xianseah4847
@xianseah4847 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Britains forgot their own identity after being controlled for centuries and pitted against each other by the various houses. Needless to say, those houses happen to be relatives of the same family. When people forgot their identity they became mere puppets.
@rockstar450
@rockstar450 2 жыл бұрын
CORRECTION: the decision to move away from Constantinople by the Pope was primarily based on the ongoing inability of Constantinople to send military aid since the Arab invasion had crippled them. The Franks gifted to the Papacy and protected them from the Lombards and in return the Pope bestowed holy legitimacy. Pope Leo who crowned Charlemagne was deeply unpopular and saved, owning his position to the Franks. The new arrangement granted the Papacy more influence and better protection so it was a done deal. The fact Irene was a women was more circumstantial and not the key driver and while she did depose her son, there’s no evidence to say he died before 800 (I can’t find the source on the “rumour” a healthy young man died from a regular form of mutilation, they mention he was blinded and imprisoned). Irene was certainly cited as an exploitable loophole for legitimacy but the fact Charlemagne would continue to chase Constantinople‘s endorsement as “Emperor” but never “of the Romans” demonstrates the imperial line was not broken as many modernly exaggerate was the key driver to the crowning.
@publicminx
@publicminx 4 ай бұрын
there was no Charlemagne, his name was Karl/Carl (or latinized: Karolus/Carolus Magnus), 'Charles' itself is just a much later localized variation of Karl/Carl. Why is this important? Because ALL historical documents, architecture etc. and in ALL other languages than French (the English took the wrong name from their) refer to a Karl dynasty line, also later. One understand history much better if one deals with the real name which in difference to localized names like 'Tut ench amun' makes much more sense, since the real name is still common and so on ..
@sandrafocht3051
@sandrafocht3051 3 жыл бұрын
Charles the Great aka
@mullenenterprises
@mullenenterprises 3 жыл бұрын
pengunz0
@turinhorse
@turinhorse 3 ай бұрын
7:02 also, surely he knows that Protestantism is a 16th century movement? this is an odd discussion here at 7:02. does the questioner mean Arianism vs Catholicism? he really should have corrected her.
@drgonzo1971
@drgonzo1971 2 жыл бұрын
the Mongols burned Hungary to the ground, but didn't stick around
@friendo6257
@friendo6257 2 жыл бұрын
Factoids from the crowd are not constructive to the presentation.
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 2 жыл бұрын
Second objection: The Franks did originally not come from the area around Frankfurt am Main, which, by the way, is not called "Franconia" (and never has been). Indeed, Frakfurt was founded by the Franks, and the Franks settled in South Hesse (Südhessen) but as colonists, appearing in this areea not before the late fifth/sixth centuries. There is an area called "Franken" which is sited upstream the Main river in northern Bavaria. The original places the Frankish tribes came from were the southern Netherlands, Flanders and northern Belgium (Salfranks), and the northern Rhineland (Rhine-Franks). The Romans called the land east of the Rhine river (opposite the city of Cologne) already in the fourth century "Francia".
@holyemperor5221
@holyemperor5221 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong! They came from Pommeren.
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 2 жыл бұрын
@@holyemperor5221 The Franks emerged from a union of Germanic (and probably Celto-Germanic) tribes that resided at the middle and lower Rhine at the time of their merger in the 3rd century AD.
@holyemperor5221
@holyemperor5221 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.norbertneumann4986 look into Pommeren. According to the Franks they came from Pommeren. They were always the neighbors of the Bourgondians who come from Bornholm.
@holyemperor5221
@holyemperor5221 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.norbertneumann4986 and they for sure weren’t Celtic.
@c.norbertneumann4986
@c.norbertneumann4986 2 жыл бұрын
@@holyemperor5221 You even don't know how to correctly spell Pommern: It's Pommern, not Pommeren. And, of course, the Frankish tribes settled at the Rhine river, from the time of their first and earliest mention in Roman documents. Pommern is several hundreds of miles away, at the shores of the Baltic Sea. One of the most important tribes the Franks emerged from was the Sugambri. The prefix su- is of Celtic origin meaning "good" or "strong". Thus it is debated among historians whether there was a Celtic influence.
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын
5:02 Prussia was not a kingdom 1648.
@lesguil4023
@lesguil4023 2 жыл бұрын
The theory of celts expanding from central europe is another myth. Why would the evolved variations of celtic language be present on the epicenter of celtic expansion whereas on the latests places to suposedly arrive i.e Spain, the vestigial remnants of celt belong to the archaic forms of Celt?
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 2 жыл бұрын
OK so they circled around the coast and went into Central Europe later. They were all on Asian Stepps at one time just like the Romans, Greeks, Franks and the other peoples who eventually became Western Europeans after the indigenous settlement of peoples in Western Europe!!!
@lesguil4023
@lesguil4023 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyqTNT I'm arguing against the germanophile skewed version of history(and prehistory) that is concocted within the protestant academic world. If you are talking about the yamnaya migration into west, i don't know if this people are the ones who brought about celtic culture or the celtic culture was something that was brewed in western most europe during and post ice age, and the repopulation that goes west to east. Don't know if there is enough evidence to suggest yamnaya culture is celtic culture. Two mummified bodies of two brothers were found north of Spain dating 8000 bc. Dark skin and blue eyes and the closest genetic match are the scandinavians, those 2 are not the celtic haplogroup R1b which is what you find in Spain nowadays, but maybe their culture was. Hard to say. hard to say with certainty what something was, but can say what it was not. The celts coming down the alps tirolese yodeling is bs myth.
@samtank7599
@samtank7599 2 жыл бұрын
Celts may have been the Scythians who migrated from turkey area to the edges of the European continent 6000 years ago
@ludviglidstrom6924
@ludviglidstrom6924 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about genetics, but the Celtic languages is a subgroup to the Indo-European languages, so linguistically they are all Indo-European.
@dabass438
@dabass438 2 жыл бұрын
Carolus Magnus was Holy Roman Emperor, the German spin on the Roman Empire. There was a Roman Emperor in New Rome the City of Constantine.
@samtank7599
@samtank7599 2 жыл бұрын
He was crowned by the vestiges of authority still alive in the Papal states around Rome proper
@dabass438
@dabass438 2 жыл бұрын
@@samtank7599 No Roman Emperor was ever crowned by an Orthodox Patriarch, not the Orthodox Pope of Rome, nor the Ecumenical Patriarch of New Rome the City of Constantine; in crowning Charlemagne, Leo became the first Catholic Pope of Rome, and the last Orthodox Pope of Rome. Had the Empire not been busy defending against the second jihad, there would probably be a "replacement" Orthodox Pope of Rome elected as was done in Alexandria after their Pope was declared a monophysite at Chalcedon (Alexandria still has 2 Popes: an Orthodox and a Coptic).
@dabass438
@dabass438 2 жыл бұрын
@@samtank7599 my point was he was not a Roman Emperor, but the first Holy Roman Emperor.
@jjrj8568
@jjrj8568 3 жыл бұрын
this title was meant for the Franks (Carolingian Dynasty) but the Germans seized a century later after the Carolingian collapse (I Reich, Holy Roman German Empire), setting the stage for the eventual WW1 a millennia later (II Reich)
@dumitrufrunza8136
@dumitrufrunza8136 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it called “The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation”?
@erikawhelan4673
@erikawhelan4673 2 жыл бұрын
Occasionally, from the 1470s on, yes.
@dumitrufrunza8136
@dumitrufrunza8136 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. So “... of the German Nation” was a later addition. Makes sense.
@RandomNorwegianGuy.
@RandomNorwegianGuy. 2 жыл бұрын
The Holy Roman Emperor held many titles. King of Germany was one of them
@stub2022
@stub2022 2 жыл бұрын
8 million people?!? Jesus christ! 😆😆😆🙄
@xianseah4847
@xianseah4847 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic, Christ should rightfully be viewed as a demon but was not.
@jonathansoko5368
@jonathansoko5368 2 жыл бұрын
Dude was far from a barbarian. He fell victim to the french ladies
@rockstar450
@rockstar450 2 жыл бұрын
CORRECTION#2: “The Western Empire never fell in the eyes of the citizens.” I’m honestly puzzled at this concept. Even after being crowned, Charlemagne’s people called themselves Franks, perhaps part of a reborn Roman Empire but not Romans. It’s like the US President resurrecting the British Empire and the USA’s citizens retitling themselves as English, it’s sounds absurd. By 800 countless generations of new rulers and immigration had poured in, all of which wanting to leave their mark on history, and this gentleman himself stated the people in Rome felt alienated from the Lombards. The Western Empire was struggling to hold its Roman identity in its final decades and Justinian’s reconquest found Italy a place far removed from what they expected to find in such a short space of time. Only the top institutions operated as were before and the more comfortable the Goths got the more likely they were to take ownership, livestock and property.
@taylorgunkel4745
@taylorgunkel4745 2 жыл бұрын
Charlamagne the God probably got his name from this dude
@ianadams6357
@ianadams6357 4 ай бұрын
😂
@wenmoonson
@wenmoonson 2 жыл бұрын
Elephant feet.
@shannonstewart7952
@shannonstewart7952 2 жыл бұрын
It was Roman due to the structure of the empire. The pope chose the emperor of the holy Roman empire. It's a Roman catholic religious state kinda
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын
The pope did not pick the Kaiser.
@shannonstewart7952
@shannonstewart7952 2 жыл бұрын
@@hansberger4939 no not the kaiser. But he did pick all of the holy Roman emperor rulers.. for the most part, holy Roman empire was a germanic empire that had a few French kings. Last of which was Napoleon Bonaparte who did not allow the pope to crown him, instead took the crown from the pope and put it on his own head
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
He didnt write o read
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
He was a viking from normandy His family stole the merovingians
@lennykoss8777
@lennykoss8777 2 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤔
@holysmoke8439
@holysmoke8439 2 жыл бұрын
Report ed for hate
@xianseah4847
@xianseah4847 2 жыл бұрын
Back then people were godless, they worshipped the same demon and killed each other in his name.
@AgoraphobicNews
@AgoraphobicNews 2 жыл бұрын
Iustinian was born in Macedonia, not Croatia
@horror11
@horror11 2 жыл бұрын
does it matter where he was born? he was greek or italian anyway
@AgoraphobicNews
@AgoraphobicNews 2 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Da Silva ssj4 Dude, learn geography. Croatia has nothing to do with both medieval and ancient Macedonia. He was born in Tauresium, 20 km southeast of Skopje which is nowadays called Northern Macedonia.
@1911Zoey
@1911Zoey 2 жыл бұрын
He was Illyrian.
@horror11
@horror11 2 жыл бұрын
@@1911Zoey illyrian was barbaric so they couldnt become roman emperors
@gllarocque
@gllarocque 11 күн бұрын
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@gllarocque
@gllarocque 5 күн бұрын
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