The Origins of King Arthur's Legend

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Centre Place

Centre Place

2 жыл бұрын

For centuries people have looked for King Arthur and his knights of the round table in history. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place looks at the origin of the legend, which was an almost instantaneous blockbuster sensation after the publication of Geoffrey of Monmouth’s “History of the Kings of Britain” in 1136.

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@AWOL401
@AWOL401 2 жыл бұрын
Lectures are great, but it’d be nice if the audience members could shut up and save their questions and comments for the end.
@lesteraponte5734
@lesteraponte5734 4 ай бұрын
I really enjoy these videos. I prefer the ones that have fewer interruptions. That woman really loves to hear herself talk.
@andrewbecker1013
@andrewbecker1013 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is like a real life Daniel Jackson -- his mannerisms, chuckles, and depth of historical knowledge are spot-on.
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
you think. he is very good but spot on? gtf
@ravenlasky5286
@ravenlasky5286 2 жыл бұрын
+1
@kaffraraffin3574
@kaffraraffin3574 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@markanthonycoliinson873
@markanthonycoliinson873 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasferguson3061 Then watch something else.
@WK-47
@WK-47 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. Can't believe I never noticed it before. Have to wonder if John is aware of the character. When he says he's originally from Minnesota, I remembered some trivia about one version of Daniel (James Spader's?) speaking with a Minnesotan accent. It's almost uncanny. Great franchise and great channel!
@benjammin4840
@benjammin4840 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be awesome to have a lecture dedicated to Crusades ... really great lecture again! Thank you
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 2 жыл бұрын
He has one from the Mid East/Muslim/Byzantine perspective and it’s excellent!
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 2 жыл бұрын
Islamic* (I think)
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 2 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey of Monmouth with a story that went viral. I grew up near Caerleon, S Wales - Isca Silurium legionary fort. The Ampitheatre remains got claimed generations back as the round table site. So the quicky shops try to play off the Arthurian legends, though I was more interested in the Roman stuff - but then the bathhouse complex was being excavated in my childhood.
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 5 ай бұрын
Geoffrey was inspired by the deeds of the Breton general Alan Rufus who witnessed Monmouth Priory’s foundation charter. Alan was of eminent Welsh, Cornish, Roman and Iranian descent.
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
I grew up in Cornwall. They have a Camelot there too
@edwardhanson3664
@edwardhanson3664 2 жыл бұрын
Eleanor of Aquitaine was granddaughter of Guilhem de Peitius, the first recognized troubadour, who was in campaigns in Spain and brought back musicians from Spain.
@sgtNUKEtroop
@sgtNUKEtroop Жыл бұрын
an excellent presentation , very well done ,,, I have always found it interesting that Arthur is mentioned in the Poem " The Gododdin " , added to this quote from Lambert de St. Omer who was a Benedictine chronicler and abbot lauded for his great learning , in 1120 "" There is a palace of Arthur the Soldier , in Britain , in the land of the Picts , built with various and wondrous art , in which the deeds of all his acts and wars are seen to be sculpted "" ... makes you wonder , did Arthur come from what we now know as Lowland Scotland and his people were the Gododdin ??? , a good read is " ARTHUR OF THE GODODDIN " , be well all , Michael
@thechatteringmagpie
@thechatteringmagpie 2 жыл бұрын
a field azure three crowns or is also the arms of East Anglia.
@markanthonycoliinson873
@markanthonycoliinson873 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again John Hamer. I enjoy your lectures very much.
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
i also enjoy fairy tales
@adamokolicsanyi4774
@adamokolicsanyi4774 Жыл бұрын
It is very rare that one captivates one's audience he does. Very interesting! Thanks be than to him.
@pr0cessa
@pr0cessa 5 ай бұрын
The lecturer is incredible, wish I'd had any like him! And I went to a great NE-elite academic school 🙃
@melenatorr
@melenatorr 2 жыл бұрын
The Gorlois story has some parallels to the Alcmene story of the birth of Heracles. Thank you, as always, for this interesting presentation. Sorry I wasn't able to join live.
@sicilianeye
@sicilianeye 2 жыл бұрын
Are we sure the two naked figure aren't Romulus and Remus and not "Adam and Steve"? Especially considering there is a figure of a wolf next to them.
@taffyducks544
@taffyducks544 2 жыл бұрын
Did this guy really just say if the historical figure doesn't match the Story than we throw away the historical figure?! Atleast that's what It sounded like! What sort of experts are these people? There is plenty of evidence for the real Arthur being Arthwys Ap Meurig of Glamorgan and Gwent in the 6th century. From cross bearing his name to battle sites appearing on old OS maps of Wales. And ofcourse to statues. Experts can't find him, cause they don't want to find him. For example he used the old French for Graal, when you should use the original term and its meaning. A Grail in old Welsh meant a document! Not a cup. The French and English academics really have done a number on Britain's greatest ever Monarch and his lineage, which didn't die out until Iestyn Ap Gwrgan of Glamorgan in the 11th century. As for chivalry, it wasn't a 6th century thing because no one but the Britons practiced it. But no...The Welsh can't have created anything. If a Welshman puts a brick onto another brick, he's told he's built a Roman Wall. Academia's position is anything the Welsh claim is myth. Its a blatant denial of genuine history. These i might add are the same academics that will use the term British when describing pre Tudor English monarchs. Even though they never saw themselves as British. Default position when dealing with these people should always be opposite of what you're being told.
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree. these people are not experts, just have a brass neck.
@deanmorgan7011
@deanmorgan7011 Жыл бұрын
Definatly not experts in fact they have not got a clue, sheep just following the conspiracy mate
@glenn-younger
@glenn-younger 2 жыл бұрын
We knew King Arthur was a legend, but oh what fun traveling through John Hamer's lecture with his signature laugh along with a sprinkling of ironic modern day references. Thank you!
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for allowing us to see the lessons
@angelaparente4470
@angelaparente4470 2 жыл бұрын
Love these lectures, thanks a lot
@dwaynedeslatte2957
@dwaynedeslatte2957 2 жыл бұрын
John you are THE MAN! Love your lectures
@wasteyelo1
@wasteyelo1 2 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. I look forward to the conversations.
@ameren110
@ameren110 2 жыл бұрын
I love all of these lectures!
@strider1968
@strider1968 10 ай бұрын
There's nothing like an American dismantling British myths and folklore.
@brendadrew834
@brendadrew834 Жыл бұрын
Of interesting note, both King Charles III and Prince William have the name Arthur as a middle name! Keeping the iconic legend alive! However Prince George doesn't have the middle name Arthur! I guess he could add it on later? Charles and William have four names, George only three! Love the film "Excalibur" and saw the musical Camelot on Broadway in the early 1960s! The Kennedy administration was referred to as "Camelot" because the late beautiful inside and out Jaqueline Kennedy Onassis said the president liked to listen to that song at night before he went to sleep! Thanks for a great video and sharing more of that history and legend that lives on!
@hfranke07
@hfranke07 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Verry interesting. I love it.
@JEPATTERSON07
@JEPATTERSON07 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, all of Arthur's legend occurs just prior to the darkness of The Year Without Summer. In creating that myth, are we remembering the past through a dark lens, looking for some sort of lost innocence we never owned.
@withoutairwithoutwords5382
@withoutairwithoutwords5382 2 жыл бұрын
Fill a buster hilarious great presentation enjoyed it thoroughly thank you
@mercy1764
@mercy1764 2 жыл бұрын
Read The book of Jasher for the original source.
@WK-47
@WK-47 2 жыл бұрын
Possible minor correction: the Scoti were not simply a tribal group from Ireland that settled the SW of Scotland before eventually dominating it, as the popular hypothesis goes. The true etymology of the word is unclear, and the term was initially used to refer to all Gaels (i.e., all natives of the British Isles at the time) rather than a specific tribe, before only later denoting Gaels of northern Britain. However, the term (or its variant, Scotti) varies in which group of people (or even what kind of people) it refers to, depending on the historical period and author of sources using it. All that said, it's clear that whatever its origin or meaning(s), 'Scoti' is the root of 'Scotland' and its derivatives ('Scot', 'Scottish' and possibly others). I'm not an expert by any means so could well be mistaken myself, but it's worth mentioning for anyone interested in such things. Regardless, great work from John and Centre Place as always.
@honoriswithin
@honoriswithin 2 жыл бұрын
Example of how past stories CAN resonate and apply to later times......the American Revolutionary war and it's heroes are extraordinarily relevant today. Big brains can do better but never really do and this presentation is a good example.
@JohnBrown722so
@JohnBrown722so 2 жыл бұрын
I pray you stay blessed I enjoy your channel
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 10 ай бұрын
One thing about Arthur's legend, in particular about Guinevere her relationship with Lancelot and Mordred, that I remember reading that doesn't come up often is that (partly because most marriages were political arraignments) men and at least some women used to take lovers but because this wasn't considered acceptable (especially for women) the story was changed so Guinevere taking a lover caused the end of Arthurs kingdom as well as to hiding such relationships as "courtly love".
@zipperpillow
@zipperpillow Ай бұрын
Great stuff. Thank you.
@aw9680
@aw9680 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Aurthur legend Hollywood movie is "The Mists of Avalon". It tells the story from the viewpoint of the women involved. Angelica Huston is the lead.
@langreeves6419
@langreeves6419 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the movie, but I did enjoy the book
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын
T.H. White is best.
@honoriswithin
@honoriswithin 2 жыл бұрын
The author turned out be an abusive sex offender, sadly.
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын
@@honoriswithin No. He was sexially offended in his youth. And he was a heavy drinker. And a great poet.
@honoriswithin
@honoriswithin 2 жыл бұрын
@@hansberger4939 T.H. White wrote the Once and Future King. We're talking about Marion Zimmer Bradley, the author of the Mists of Avalon
@ningenJMK
@ningenJMK 2 жыл бұрын
Your audiences are always so smart, John/Leandro.
@purpleslog
@purpleslog 4 ай бұрын
Ambrosius was real. He was a Romano-British leader in the 5th century. He has battle success against non-British invaders (e.g saxons, angles, jutes). He may be the same as (and I’m sure I spelling it wrong) Riothamus who is documented also at the same time. Riothamus might just be a title. Where does Arthur fit in here ? Maybe be a war leader successor to Ambrosius/Riothamus just before the proto-english get the the upper hand and start to ascend. Anyways…this is where I like the Arthurian stories to be placed.
@gandrazmaj8137
@gandrazmaj8137 2 жыл бұрын
Just to make it simple, in my tradition many ruler have been called as "zmaj ognjeni"( Fire Dragon) and many others have been called Dragons ( they are special people who have like divine powers, and to be a Dragon you need to be born with the power) Only two ways are possible to be dragon 1. You need to be child born from witch and the father need to be greatest worrier and hero 2. When a child is born (if the baby came out in this "baloon" that is the remark or sing that this is Dragon child he is going to be something special!!! And one more thing in my country in the past we have created Order of the dragon knights, like today elite special forces ĺ,who are trained whole life from childhood to be a warrior ( to be clear this order is not created at the beginning of 15 century he is at least minimal 200 years older) those ruling houses have on the insignia a dragon picture who have bitten his own tail!!! About sword and lady of the lake, in the old tradition if someone attacked your lands ,you need to fight, but the attacker have great force stronger than you, like Roman's or Mongols!! When my prince have gone to war against tatars were the tatars have much more than we but it doesn't matter if you going to lose because theoretically the aggressor attacks you with tree time larger army, but you need to stop them to fight them and you have 2 options fight to win or fight to die!!! Despot Stefan Lazarevic have won on the battle field and he have pushed them back to Asia!!! At returning back from small Asia they have crossed over the bridge and on our side when all soldiers were on our side our prince have done one ritual!!! He have talked his sword and spear (speer has been braked and sword have been dented over the knee) They have make a prayer and after he have throw broken spear an sword in the river!!! This broken bloody weapons need to barrier for the opponents if they try again to attack us they are not going to be able to cross the river it's like a magic, on the weapons is their blood and the sword have brought them dead and fear, and they have become some sort of energy ,full of fear from tatars!!! I suppose that Excalibur was given to me Lady of the sea so that the Roman legions do not cross over the lake!!! Excalibur need to be divine weapon ,our enemies need to have fear when someone says name of excalibur not to see only to listen this name they are going to become panicked!!! And the druids ( if I read it like "DRVIDI" , drvo means tree and vidi means to see) in my tradition we have some trees witch are holy and they are on the sacred place!!! Our believe is that in Beech trees living the soles or something else!!! We still have beaches which are ca 800 years old and we call them "drvo zapis' like marking tree!!! Every village have this kind of tree and the people have been gathered there but the tree was always in the middle, they have danced in circle (Kolo ) by the tree ,if was war and difficult time they have preyed our ancestors for protection and for help I don't know where is the Camelot but funny thing is that we have one mountain called Avala near Belgrade!! Sorry for mistakes in text my English is poor!
@margueritearavena2256
@margueritearavena2256 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! You did very well in English. Thank you for your long detailed legend.
@danijel3227
@danijel3227 2 жыл бұрын
Smisao tvoje price meni izgleda da ti hoces reci da je "Kralj Arthur" i njegov Camelot bio u tadasnjoj Srbiji. Ne. Srbi su, kao i svi ostali, uzeli u to vrijeme poznatu bajku, napisanu od Geoffrey of Monmouth i ispredali pricu kako njima odgovara. Vidis, nije bilo potrebe da objasnis realnost pisuci 2 miliona rijeci. Sve se objasni u par recenica. Svejedno, lijepo je kad netko to sve zna i napise, samo problem je motiv.
@margueritearavena2256
@margueritearavena2256 2 жыл бұрын
@@danijel3227 In English?
@gandrazmaj8137
@gandrazmaj8137 2 жыл бұрын
@@danijel3227 ovo sto sam pisao nema veze sa bajkom nego sa tradicionalnim predanjem koje je jos zivo u narodu, nazalost sve manje, drugo uopste mi nije bila pomisao niti sam napisao da je kamelot u srbiji nego samu vezu o narodnom predanju, na primer kod iraca i nas se mitologija bukvalno poklapa , u svakom slucaju je zanimljivo da imamo planinu pod tim imenom!! Svako dobro
@danijel3227
@danijel3227 2 жыл бұрын
@@gandrazmaj8137 Hm, to "tradicionalno predanje" se po tvojoj prici veze na knjigu koja nema veze s stvarnoscu nista vise nego Harry Potter, s toga to je "bajka"...(vise, manje su sve te price ionako bajkovite.) Drugo, napisao sam da cijenim kad netko ima znanje pa moze te sve stvari usporediti i napisati. Trece, ako sam krivo shvatio tvoju poantu o stvarnoj lokaciji Camelota, ispricavam se.
@danielhopkins296
@danielhopkins296 2 жыл бұрын
The ' throwing the sword to the Lady of the Lake" motif is found first attached to the legend of the Scythic BATRAZ, or ' BUDDHA-RISHI
@edwardhanson3664
@edwardhanson3664 2 жыл бұрын
Mary Stewart's massively popular trilogy "Crystal Cave" was set in 6th century Briton, and Arthur puulled the sword from the stone as a boy.. And you're leaving out the Languedocian connections.
@danremenyi1179
@danremenyi1179 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you allow so many silly interruptions from your students. Why not have questions and comment at the end?
@Cat_Woods
@Cat_Woods 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, they drive me nuts. Why can't they just write down their comments and questions and have the discipline to wait til the end of the lecture?
@carolinegodden4364
@carolinegodden4364 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
Good show
@reepacheirpfirewalker8629
@reepacheirpfirewalker8629 2 жыл бұрын
I was having a lot of communication with a friend of mine who had reams of paper after going through over 2,000 years looking into the person and personage. In Britain I know the person of Robin Hood is in the same type of thing. There wasn't one Robin Hood but like the Scar Face type of names being used by criminals they all claimed it was theirs. He showed me a few things but was fascinating when I was telling him about a Blue Sword that had been usurped by a government in exile from Egypt. The Sword could cut through anything including steel. He took down what the name of the author and his book. He said like this weapon how something so little could become something of a mythology but history as well.
@charlesb5333
@charlesb5333 2 жыл бұрын
Very good one. Narrative as you point out is important and has its place; we should not dissect it to find facts.
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 2 жыл бұрын
So did the story's author influence Cervantes' Don Quixote? Cervantes also has the story given by another author and translated.
@langreeves6419
@langreeves6419 2 жыл бұрын
John Hamer rocks!
@honoriswithin
@honoriswithin 2 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining this presentation was but (intentionally) limited is an understatement.
@maxsonthonax1020
@maxsonthonax1020 2 жыл бұрын
Quite an illustration-heavy one.
@dustinneely
@dustinneely 6 ай бұрын
John Boorman's Excalibur is great.
@JohnBrown722so
@JohnBrown722so 2 жыл бұрын
Hey just curious why did you use the same cover picture for Charlemagne video
@colemanstarr5404
@colemanstarr5404 2 жыл бұрын
36:45 Wasn't there somewhere a reference to Breton soldiers in Duke William of Normandy's invasion army singing songs about Arthur in 1066.
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
are you saying that the norman invasion was just true britons, along with their norman allies, coming back to tke southern britain into its rightful overlordship. never thought of that angle (joke) before. food for thought
@taffyducks544
@taffyducks544 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasferguson3061 indeed. Many Britons were allied to the initial Norman invasion of England. How they got into Wales was not unlike how Rome did, they married into it. This is why it took over 200 years to get a foot hold in South Wales.
@ningenJMK
@ningenJMK 2 жыл бұрын
Merlin taking the baby Arthur reminds me of Obi-wan taking the baby Luke.
@rocksandforestquiver959
@rocksandforestquiver959 3 ай бұрын
The whole story arc of star wars has heavy hints of Arthurian legend
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
Arthur's adventures in Gaul seem to recall the career of the historical British emperor Magnus Maximus. Arthur's kinsman Constantine might refer to another British emperor, Constantine III (407 - 11).
@taffyducks544
@taffyducks544 2 жыл бұрын
The first Arthur was a Nephew or potentially a cousin under Magnus, his direct descendant in the 6th century was the second known to be Arthur. Arthwys Ap Muerig.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 11 ай бұрын
Three of the dukes of Brittany were called Arthur. The best - known is "Little Arthur", the unfortunate nephew of Bad King John. Other dukes were called Conan. Alan was also a popular name.
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 5 ай бұрын
Yes. The names Arthur and Uther occur as 9th century charter witnesses in the Cartulary of Redon in Brittany: it is a massive collation of legal documents. It may be the ‘ancient book’ Geoffrey of Monmouth cites.
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
Was it ever a rare name?
@travelingonline9346
@travelingonline9346 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this presentation. I would remark: If it is a complete fabrication people claim that it is true. But if it is based in reality you make a point of stating that it is a work of fiction and any similarities to real events or people is purely accidental and unintended. What does this tell us about our modern society?
@jon_finn
@jon_finn 2 жыл бұрын
Love the shout-out to he-man XD
@johnobrien6415
@johnobrien6415 2 жыл бұрын
As to the question of historicity: I doubt historicity of a book that says: "I got this story form such and such source" when that source is unverifiable and probably made up. It's an old literary trope. Don Quijote is not by Cervantes, but some guy named Hamet Ben Engali. Marco Polo wasn't written by Marco Polo but was from his jailer who took the story from him...etc, etc. It goes to what I call the problem of belief. It creates a little distance from the author to the story, but they still say it's true. Any time you see that structure, assume it is literature you are reading and not history.
@nathanielpea5819
@nathanielpea5819 2 жыл бұрын
The scotii where, I was led to believe banished from Ireland for being too warlike. That's one version. My Irish friend used to claim that it was actually a dispute over the copying of religious texts, along the lines of the book of Kells. Either way I'm fairly certain they were kicked out of Ireland as opposed to slowly drifted over. Idk.
@JEPATTERSON07
@JEPATTERSON07 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Clovis' eldest son didn't die at childbirth? And they hid him away on the distant Isles to protect him from royal European intrigues? Their wisest old sage and the most-trusted nanny carry him off to Offa's grampa's court, where he's raised as a blacksmith commoner who becomes a king? And he forges his own sword, from stone to steel, dipping it in and out of the lakewater to seal its temper. Interesting timing on all of this, too.
@vampireangelus
@vampireangelus 2 жыл бұрын
What!? No mention of The Sword of San Galgano?
@rovanderby759
@rovanderby759 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this Aschillius of Dacia might have been added to the story to play the part of the typical "barbaric" character from somewhere in the East, who is a heathen or heretic of sorts (muslim or easter orthodox or other), but fighting for the right cause, along with the good guys. Similar characters can be found in other stories of that period.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
This is true.
@stephensinclair3771
@stephensinclair3771 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes James the sixth was called "little Arthur".
@chiragtaylor9050
@chiragtaylor9050 Жыл бұрын
everytime he says courtley love I think cortney love
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
Durandal, the sword of Roland, is pretty famous.
@manuelkong10
@manuelkong10 Жыл бұрын
at the beginning....who are those two on the left....looks like there's a wolf there too and seeing how this is in Italy could it not be Romulus et Remus?
@chrisnewport7826
@chrisnewport7826 2 жыл бұрын
Lady of the Lake could be the caretaker of the sacred site and gave a special sword in her keeping to the selected leader. Excalibur was a well made sword, " an ancient heirloom" but it was the scabbard that was enchanted and a protective charm against wounds. Show real swords.
@cpthardluck
@cpthardluck 5 ай бұрын
Cant believe you missed the Japanese swords! The Masamune is widely famous and popularized by video games.
@RalphEllis
@RalphEllis 2 жыл бұрын
The birth narrative for Arthur, …is the same as the birth narrative for Hercules, ..it is just saying Arthur is a demi-god like Hercules. The Round Table is round with 12 knights because it was a zodiac, …it is said to have been based upon the design of the Last Supper table, …so the Last Supper table was a zodiac, with 12 disciple-knights, …just like the Jewish Hamat Teverya zodiac on Lake Galilee, …with 12 constellations, ..so the primary symbol of early Judaism was the zodiac. Offa’s Dyke was originally built by Emperor Septimus Severus, in the early 3rd century. …it was named after the Greek for a snake. Excalibur was named after the Aramaic for a ‘sword’. …most of Arthurian names were Aramaic (or Chaldean), …and are said to be Chaldean in the original Latin manuscripts, …because this story came from the Near East. Uther was NOT called Pendragon. In the Welsh (and Latin) manuscripts he is called Uther ben Dragon (separate words), This is not Welsh, it is Aramaic, meaning Uther son of Fish, ….meaning Uther son of Pisces, …many names in Arthurian legend are said to be Chaldean (Aramaic) …hence the famous line of Arthurian Fisher Kings, ..the first being Jesus, the Fisher of Men, …with the symbol of Christianity being the Fish. Where is the earliest statue of King Arthur? …again, it is in Italy, on the 12th century doorway of Modena Cathedral, …because this is a Crusader/Templar story. Geoffrey of Monmouth and Walter of Oxford, said they, …got the Arthur text and story from Normandy/Brittany. …the Oxford version is more prosaic and historical. See book: The Grail Cypher Ralph
@indigop38
@indigop38 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that Dagon = fish, but how does Dagon connect with dragon besides similarity of words ?
@kaffraraffin3574
@kaffraraffin3574 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 5 ай бұрын
54:02 Frank Langella as King Lear
@JamesMandolare
@JamesMandolare 2 жыл бұрын
I recently heard an interesting theory that these stories are a myth of the time after the Romans left Britain which initiated a Golden Age of rich British traders who lived like Romans and traded successfully across the Mediterranean Sea.
@5thribroarn304
@5thribroarn304 2 жыл бұрын
King Arthur II was killed by Indians in The State of Pennsylvania in America and was buried there with his Father's Sword and other treasures. The weather at the time did not allow for the transport by boat back to his home in England.
@richards8916
@richards8916 Жыл бұрын
Suzanna Maria Emmanuel is the reincarnation of King Arthur, and has returned to finish the job.
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
And that is history in codes
@matthewmears618
@matthewmears618 Жыл бұрын
Lady of the lake is true it's in Somerset Glastonbury England his name Martin Mere lake name after my ancestors just like the village
@spartanwarrior1
@spartanwarrior1 Жыл бұрын
King Arthur may be based on Batraz, a mystic firure of Ossetian mythology.
@rikki1960
@rikki1960 2 жыл бұрын
Just 1 thing that was funny/odd!!!! "Tintagel" is pronounced "Tin-taj-jel" otherwise brilliant!!!!
@manuelkong10
@manuelkong10 Жыл бұрын
If he read some of Alan Wilson he'd understand that there Are historical references to Arthur
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
Do tell
@johnlavers3970
@johnlavers3970 2 жыл бұрын
the english heraldry is three leopards, not lions
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
too true, dont we all make it up as we go along.
@natashapope3785
@natashapope3785 2 жыл бұрын
A little creative imagination wouldn't go a miss.
@RestoringReality
@RestoringReality 2 жыл бұрын
This is a true story. Because stories are fictional, the fact that it is true fiction would be an accurate statement. This is how "they" do operate...
@igaluitchannel6644
@igaluitchannel6644 6 ай бұрын
What does this guy believe (if anything) as opposed to what he doesn't believe?
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
What does it matter?
@moorek1967
@moorek1967 2 жыл бұрын
The word knight as we know it did not exist in the supposed time of King Arthur. The word knight from the Germanic was knecht with meant "boy" or "servant". He may have had soldiers that were close to him, but they could not be called knights. Chivalry was from the French. But it was not until the Crusades that came about the concept of warrior knights. So the legend of King Arthur has its roots in early Christian Roman Briton. The "round table" is a code for the Eucharist host served at the table of the Lord. So they were not soldiers but servants of Christ. They were seeking the Holy Grail, which was not the chalice of blood, but that the wine turns to blood at the Eucharist. So they were passing the communion cup. The name Arthur is from Artorius, the Roman clan name that meant "noble" or "courageous". This legend is just Christian symbolism, as Rex means king, so Rex Artorius means Noble King, which Jesus is referred to as The King of Glory. Remember, western Christianity was Roman Catholicism. These men were priests, not soldiers.
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
where to start. the roman knights were those who formed the cavalry, well before the crusades. France was not a country at the supposed time of Arthur. you can be a soldier and a servant of Christ, e.g. knights templar etc. the holy grail may not have been a cup. arthur means Bear, possibly. going back if knecht equates to knight then a king would have both boys and servants around him. and finally christianity in Britain is celtic based in the north and west not the romanised part of britain. ps rome conqureered southern britain, , subdues other parts, made forays into others, but they never conquered the entire island.
@moorek1967
@moorek1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasferguson3061 I do know that Padraigh was kidnapped from Britain and his family were from Rome and his grandfather a Bishop. He was born about 385 and died 461. This is about the time frame of the etymology of the word knight. From Etymolonline Old English cniht "boy, youth; servant, attendant," a word common to the nearby Germanic languages (Old Frisian kniucht, Dutch knecht, Middle High German kneht "boy, youth, lad," German Knecht "servant, bondman, vassal"), of unknown origin. For pronunciation, see kn-. The plural in Middle English sometimes was knighten. Meaning "military follower of a king or other superior" is from c. 1100. It began to be used in a specific military sense in the Hundred Years War, and gradually rose in importance until it became a rank in the nobility from 16c. It was not used in the military sense until the 11th century. So nobody was called a soldier knight before that time. So calling them servants, knights, of Christ is most likely. And as I said, Arturo is an Italian noble family name. The word for bear, as in the Big Bear is Ursa Major but the constellation is Arcturus. Ursa is the word for bear. And that is why the Arctic is so named, because it is the land where the Big Bear is, in other words before they traveled much, they considered Ursa to be the symbol of the north. If you need to take an astronomical view, even the Big Dipper could be seen as a grail. But no, Joseph of Arimathea would not have caught the blood in a cup because he was a ritualistic clean Pharisee and that would have been forbidden and if they saw him do that, he would have been stoned to death. The Blood in the Cup is the wine that Jesus said "This is the blood of the New Covenant which is shed for many". The Round table is the plate of the host. This is very much Christian symbolism and Christianity was in England and Wales very early on, long before the knight and chivalry system.
@jackieroberts7895
@jackieroberts7895 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Wilson and baram Blackett are real historians with over 50 years of experience they are the ones to focus on what is it with Americans and English thinking king Arthur was a English king even though his symbol was ddraig goch red dragon on his chest which is a clue that he's not English for gods sake he's welsh/cymru red dragon welsh vs white dragon English very simple 😁
@deanmorgan7011
@deanmorgan7011 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@bothewolf3466
@bothewolf3466 2 ай бұрын
43:40, you refer to a wyvern, point of heraldry: this thing has "arms", wyvern did not, just "wings" this creature appears to be like a martlet, no legs. that is arms and wings but no legs. Not dragon, not wyvern strictly..... 1/2 dragon 1/2 martlet
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
Warriors
@Johannes_Brahms65
@Johannes_Brahms65 2 жыл бұрын
It seems there were no Anglo Saxons battles either, as there are no archeological finds.
@honoriswithin
@honoriswithin 2 жыл бұрын
No......Achilles was not "Worthy" because he was NOT moral. He was not a virtuous warrior. Achilles killed for his reputation, his purpose was self glory and self preservation unlike Hector's purpose was to protect and preserve his people. Like I said, this presentation is entertainment, not much else.
@remidall5271
@remidall5271 2 жыл бұрын
Durandal is the name of the Sword of Roland...Another example of sword name.
@annwltr
@annwltr 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Arthur legend came out of Dumnonia...I'm learning
@thehopeforunderstanding9263
@thehopeforunderstanding9263 2 жыл бұрын
Gospel of Thomas is Excalibur if the hope for the man of understanding Jeremiah returned as Jeremy
@WilliamKelly-ou2nm
@WilliamKelly-ou2nm 7 ай бұрын
Romulus and Remus.
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
The hanuk that they have
@colemanstarr5404
@colemanstarr5404 2 жыл бұрын
Does not the absence of cat monsters, divine destructive boars and people with dog heads in Britain prove that Arthur existed?
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
The dog heads are real and in the palace of Westminster, it's just we're used to them now
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
Even bbc is making the series of today royals An invention
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
They are right Not all wombs are the same Only one is
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
We have the star arthur Is in greek mithology
@deniserowley8549
@deniserowley8549 7 ай бұрын
Many myths are turning out to be fact.
@FernandoMendoza-dw8nz
@FernandoMendoza-dw8nz 2 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen...Superman is real and he is Canadian!
@mercy1764
@mercy1764 2 жыл бұрын
Read The Book of Jasher for the original source. King Moses is the original King Arthur.
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 2 жыл бұрын
@The Muckler I think he’s from Michigan.
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 2 жыл бұрын
@The Muckler by way of Minnesota^
@rickyodom1201
@rickyodom1201 2 жыл бұрын
A Holy Knight Priesthood
@andrewwhelan7311
@andrewwhelan7311 2 жыл бұрын
Arth or Bear in the indigenous language of the native Cymry, was a leader of Glamorgan in s Wales. There were two Arthur figure's, one in Roman times and the other in Saxon times. One only has to study the lineage of the native kings of Britain and translate the place names in Wales to see truth. All the later rubbish was cultural appropriation on the part of the English Germanic and French aristocracy who layed claim to Arthur being an ancestor, due to having no credible claim to this island. This was later delegated as being myths and legends, as the newcomer wannabe kings had trouble with the fact that there were royal indigenous bloodlines stretching back millennia before the Saxons set foot in Britain. There are no Celts in Britain by the way.
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
reasonable points, destroyed by ridiculous assertions
@gandrazmaj8137
@gandrazmaj8137 2 жыл бұрын
Mr what if they mean where they say Dachian land is maybe wrong interpretation ,name Dachian is the name of one king the peoples name used still today is Vlasi Valachen Valach... Name Vlach means Sheppard but Weles is Forest God in old slavic tradition! Maybe when they say Dachian they mean Wells!!! Scottish name come from Scythian actually I mean the Scottish people are directly deciding from Scythian ,horseman warriors ,nomadic people who have lived everywhere from Persia to Asian steppes and in Europe on Balkan!!! About language I am not sure if that truth is, concrete now ,who can find one document on today Romanian language ( I mean on Latin language) only the document (written) need to be older than 160 years!!! All those languages are totally replaced with new ones, like old Irish, not sure but I believe they have only one single source one tradition, how they can be sure if it is for sure they old language, or in Scandinavia same thing they have replaced old Swedish with new language and not so long time ago! Where is the Gallic language in today France or what have they spoken in today Spain!!! Old Latin, maybe I am wrong, but I believe that he was not in use, dead language, except Vatican, or why the Greeks didn't understand antique Greek ,they still use same letters!!! I mean old Greek is created 8000 years ago and he is based on I believe first or oldest language in Europe the Pelasgian language, Latin is created 2000 years after he Greek ,my point is that where have all those different nations lived before they have come to the Island!!! I am the meaning that 2000 years (or much longer)ago the people specially in Europe they have spoken same or similar language so that they have understand the others, like the Celts have been lived from almost whole Balkan on one side, in today Ukraine then in today France and to the Island!!! Or who has spoken sanskrit language from where is this language, first the India say that they have meet those people (Arian) and they have learned them everything, why no one ask him self how is possible that in the most European languages we have much more words from sanskrit than the Latin!!! Have the Indians migrated to whole Europe, specially British island, you on Island have been isolated from foreign influences! Why me from Balkan I have more same words with English than the all neighboring countries? Or Vikings runes are the same like the Vinca symbols plus same letters are used in today Italia ,people who have called them the Raseni only no one speak this name they call them Etruscan, they are creators from Roman Imperium, today science say that they can not understand and translate the written text ,how ??? The grounders of Rom have not spoken Latin the same story with Berlin they were not Germans but like always the Germans have named sanskrit language as indo Germanic language which means they are Arian race, only how is possible that German language has much less words with indo germanic then many other languages in Europe ?But German historiography is the best one for creation of relativity many new European nations and new languages like the new history!!! The Poland's people they say that they are directly dissents of Skits people but we are learning that the Scythians are Asians!!! Are the Polish people Asian looking and what language is Scythian because the Poles use slavic!!! If we look only on tradition, believes, national epic poetry and traditional music then you can see how much some people are very similar only some how no one ask how is possible!!! Or if the swastika symbol comes from India why is the oldest one (found in Ukraine)5000 years older than the oldest in India?Celtic tradition is over 90% same with old slavic mythology!!! Scottish bagpipes only Serbs, Bulgarian and in Macedonia we have bagpipes tradition, the traditional Irish art of singing ist very similar to our! Bye the way Homer Iliad and Odisay are not Greek , Homer have those stories (they are songs) translated and written from barbarian to Greek !
@thomasferguson3061
@thomasferguson3061 2 жыл бұрын
i only read couple of lines, knew it was going to unprovable atatements. eg scotti wtf
@natashapope3785
@natashapope3785 2 жыл бұрын
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