Chess has become too stale, I'm still waiting for a DLC that will add new pieces

And why's there only Whites and Blacksm? it needs more representative to make the game more inclusive

I love this

The devs have been inactive for a 1000 years

Not if you use her counter pick the knight

guess who i am〈3 how can you live with yourself not being gm

Her: I’m not a grandmaster Me: say sike right now

Lol I'm rated only like 1500, quit playing a while ago

@@mk6315 her: come over Him: can't I'm busy Her:I'm home alone Him: still busy Her: I'm a chess grandmaster Him: *I'll be there immediately*

Let me guess. You're a 15 year old white male, that has a dog. That was my guess. (I guessed because your nickname wanted)

When you say that something aged like milk it means that it ended up bad

You meant fine wine?

@@arandomhashbrown3756 that's exactly what he meant. He's saying that quote didn't age well.

@@msgpatient7850 no he didn't. Milk doesn't age well. And charlie's quote didn't age well.

Depends on what you mean by "good"

Everybody who is saying stuff like this doesn't understand Rawr Master's point. His point is that the FACE OF CHESS should be good at it. He has no problem with hikaru having s channel seven times as big as his, his problem is that he thinks chess will become ridiculed if we only see these shooter nuts playing it. Itd be like if you loved movies by a certain director, and then another director who is a terrible scriptwriter but had a lot of cash for special effects swooped in and took over the movie that you were looking forward to from the og director u wanted to see it made by. You'd be pretty pissed.

Dweet4life boi except that’s a terrible analogy because in your example something is taken away; the movie that you wanted to see never got made. Nothing is being changed about chess, the game is the same as it’s always been and has been for hundred of years. Also your example sucks ass because it’s not like Hikaru bought his way into Benjamin’s earned position that way you imply with the director analogy. Hikaru is also a chess GM and earned that title. Really no reason to think he’s going to open chess up to ridicule (whatever that means) unless you’re just letting personal feelings get in the way of rational thinking

@@loooongneck but something is taken away. The beauty of the game is diminished when these clowns become the face of it. Hikaru can be the face of chess because he is great at the game. That's not where Ben's problem lies. His problem is that his beautiful game and even lifestyle is being reduced into this extra little pastime. Also I never said hilary is bad. He is many times better than Ben. He earned his title through blood sweat and tears. Ben is fine with hikaru being the face of chess and he is fine with new people joining. He just believes in working your way up the food chain and not being the most popular player but still one of the worst at it. And chess is being ridiculed if these clowns are the ones leading it. If hikaru, carlsen, rosen, ben, gotham, aronian, dubov, or any awesome player was the face of chess ben would have no problems. And as for what you've made clear, I feel like you're not really a chess player are you? You don't understand what the grind of rating is like. I know that I dont wanna hear this conversation. "Hey man, who's the most popular chess player?" "Pewdiepie right?" No! It's like how Marie Antoinette used go pretend to be a farmer and play around with animals. It's stupid, foolish, and anybody who is against ben on this clearly hasnt actually heard him talk. Charlie just decided to snip a few comments that he made regardless of context and used that to paint him as the villain. Come play chess seriously for four years, understand the community, then we will talk.

@@themediocrehunter4152 "these clowns" immediately your argument loses all rationale. Do you not see how opinionated that statement is? Who are you to judge whether someone is a clown or gatekeep the type of personality the "face of chess" is supposed to have? "the beauty of the game is diminshed" Lol no it isnt. Its a game. One can very easily get into chess and become a chess player and not interact with or have their interest in the game be influenced by streamers ever because not everyone is into watching streams. The only problem I see here is you taking things too seriously and personally attacking people you don't have a particular affinity for. And by the way, I do play chess. Just because im not as haughty taughty about it doesnt mean i dont know how to play or what the rating grind is like

@@loooongneck okay you make some good points. These people, typically, are popular at their games because they're extremely good at them. And they're new, and that's fine. However,until they hit a point where they can competently play the game, I dont think that they should be referred to as professional chess players all the time because they stream it for money. Also ben finegold is a really great guy. He's hilarious and brilliant. It's not because I dislike these people's personalities or lack thereof, because I see hikaru as being a lot like them. Only difference, he is extremely good at chess.

Remove game chat

they died like 1000 years ago

@@saades4018 *they were afk for 1000 years!

We need a chess council

Turboviikinki exactly, this man gets it.

It's always the football players

That's pretty much exactly what it is if you just swap football for gaming

i've seen the rugby players playing chess in my school

It’s like a Goldbergs episode or something

Also can’t forget the fact that it’s a romantic drama and one of the football player’s friends is gay.

That’s so cool! Maybe they’ll become chest grandmasters one day :)

And The Queens Gambit?

Nice!

As a GM I'm disgusted by that.

@@vesas5214 Ben finegold fanboy here

goodluck my friend and if you have time id like to hear some strategies

Oh wow good job! Your parents were wrong about that, so happy you managed to get back into chess :) hope it works out well

Waste of time? How

@@aisjjdnxj-mq1kk Well, if you get to higher levels of chess, you have to study so much, follow the top games and play a lot to leep up with the level. It's an incredibly time-consuming discipline and it's super addictive

"It's not a waste of time if you're having fun doing it" -Idk who said this, I think bearded patrick

They did with chess up until the past 1-200 years. Took some great players from a lower class upbringing to break it open more.

an almost unbelievable level of entitlement. But chess players having a screw lose is so common its almost part of the games charm

@@portratratra yh it sucks seeing a beginner not even trying

flight core

greetings pilot

Everybody quite till TheNewGuy is gangster

This comment is so true to life

@@The-Average-Noob I'm gangster now

Brilliant comment

@@thenewguy7527 yes you are

let me guess, something about Beethoven and chopin and names of classical songs that don't make sense?

@@fishecake2794 not just classical, every genre has so much gatekeeping

@@glowco.717 huh, I feel like I shouldn't be surprised since so little people come out on top in the music industry...

I feel like jazz is the perfect example here.

@@glowco.717 oh you like metal? Name every metal subgenre

Alright, I don't follow, but what happened?

Or maybe they're two different groups of people and the opinions of the mass just shifted as more information became available. Don't be too cynical haha. Being open to change isn't always bad. Beats being a stubborn butthead.

Too many people just watched this video and thought they knew everything.

@@AnNguyen-es4kx Hikaru ended up basically trying to gatekeep the newly found chess popularity for himself by putting copyright claims on other popular chess streamers and using bullying tactics to excommunicate said streamers from gaining steam in the community (botez, chessbrah, gotham). But the thing is Hikaru had been doing this kinda stuff his whole career and Ben knew this better than most (they had a history with St Louis chess) so that would explain why Ben seemed so bitter about the whole thing in this video.

I didn't change my opinion at all, and also seeing some other peoples comments which got a lot of likes saying even back then that they like Finegold in general, but that he is in the wrong here, that he is jealous and that he is butthurt that people who are chess beginners get way more views than him despite him being a GM. For the record, I don't think of Finegold as either wholesome or bad, but I do find his lectures funny. As for this particular issue, I always thought and still think that he was in the wrong.

THROBBING

Hi

C U M

Wazzup

Pikachu with the FAT 10 gifted

lmao

go the way of xQc

I would pay to see this happen

Charlie vs Felix soon

Ahegao Moe yo bet

Charlie is Guthix.

When the world needed him the most, he vanished.

He's already mastered all 4 elements

ACTUALLY HIS NAME IS PENGUINZ0 DUE TO HIS KZfaq NAME BEING PENGUINZ0 !!!1!

So you're saying he's the Thanos of Drama. _Perfectly balanced as all things should be_ ...

He's the only person who could post a video named "Chess Drama" and have me actually click it.

Critical posted this at the right time because I was bored enough to watch chess drama

He is "the" himself

Took the words out my mouth

I love ghibli studios my fav movies spirited away and howls moving castle

I'm just wondering if Charlie will make a sequel to Chess Drama starring Hikaru, it'd certainly be fair after his fanbase helped destroy Ben's channel as a result of this video. What Hikaru has been caught doing, and I'm not just talking about the copyright strikes, is an order of magnitude worse than anything Ben ever did or said.

Yeah it's pretty crazy how things have changed. I don't think Ben deserved what he got, since I think he was mostly upset with Hikaru, which was fair enough based off of what we now know.

Won't really matter since Hikaru literally doesn't care.

People involved inc hess years ago knew Hikaru was the worst person to represent the sport to the public audience

@Gabriele Well, I'm sure there are some that could be worse

The drama club and the chess club clashing over who's getting the school funds.

ya kinda contradicted yourself there ;)

@@itsjustjoel28 He said *he never thought* drama and chess would be used in the same sentence - not that it would never happen... so, no. No contradiction there whatsoever.

@@___717. actually he must've thought about it when he typed it so that's wrong

@@arnavrawat9864 we don't know what he thought. Only what he wrote. So he's right. And now that rhymes

cakemanlove the new Tai Lopez

JESUS CHRIST I WANT TO RIP THE GUTS OUT OF THAT MAN, HIS VOICE IS A NIGHTMARE

@@invalid8116 oof

“I’m excited, so let’s open it” he says in a more monotone and depressed voice than Critikal

Let's see what's in the box that I just told you about what's in it

last patch actually came 500 years ago when they nerfed pawns ability to move twice with the move en passant

No need to update if it's balanced.

I hope they make a necromancer class the in the next update

Queen OP imo

Should be nerfed in the next update

shutup chess is a life metaphor. if u are bad at chess you will most likely die in 2-3 years because you arent able to strategize. in fact i am so good at chess that people are jealous to me of my great life skill and dont talk to me and are mean to me and girls dont even look my way just beacuse im so good at life and chess i swear

@@supertrollfaxnoprinter3329 weird flex but okay.

It was a part of the joke where he was poking fun at the elitism of it. But of course you and 185 other people are too dumb to realize that :/

@@nic5250 I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that as a joke, but I guess it could also be taken your way too.

Trygve Plaustrum then he later says it’s just a board game

why?

no

no

Rekt in 6 moves

no

no

Disgusting

Disgusting

Disgusting

“It”

*disgustang*

exactly... that was a bad comparison

Underrated, up you go.

i like how when i see this it has exactly 64 likes

*JUST* 64 squares? *JUST* 64 squares? OKAY LEMME BREAK THSI DOWN FIRST O FF ITS NIOT JUST SQUAREST HETY RE DIFFERENT COLORS OKAY AND A

Why can’t it be 64 manipulatable squares?

Ooh I like that. I’m going to adapt it for different situations.

Popular and OLD

LOL

Seriously, like what kind of nonsense...

These elitist gatekeepers of chess just have to be thankful Indians haven’t gatekeeped chess... since they invented it!😂

What happened actually? I'm not up to date

@@blackscrow hikaru is jerk! Check hikaru vs chessbrah drama

@Because it's EPIC i'm crying

@Because it's EPIC excellent chess move

no it’s QVC

@sREUDIAN fLIP yes he's a 5Head at Chess

@Because it's EPIC Can't believe I fell for that lol

Oh my god this is so true I stopped because of that very reason

Or when you wear a t shirt with a band on it and they ask what’s your favorite song or album And you answer And they tell you that’s the worst song or everyone likes that song Or you just got into listening to the band and haven’t discovered their other music

Are you actually comparing Skating to Chess that’s so laughable.

Key Bull yes

Umm im nerdy as fuck yet all the skaters never called me a poser nor let a single insult out at me id ask tons of questions i still cant ollie i force myself to ride a board and keep up not saying im staying on it but they would always cheer on "newbs" and all the kids learning to skate or bmx yes we made fun of the scooter kids but thats cus everybody was a scooter fag at some point in life but all in all skaters arnt bad just the people you are around were

Normal as in not an asshole haha

Fr what did he mean with that magnus has an iq of 190

@@mortache So then his statement becomes "Only assholes give attention to those with less talent than themselves"

@@TheHolySemiColon huh

@@mortache Carlson is actually pretty chill and down to earth in real life from what I've seen.

Correction: being upset that *popular* people like what you like.

you guys have no idea what youre talking about

@@ihatemeta found the elitist.

@@ihatemeta ok, nerd

@@ihatemeta You're

how the turntables

What happened?

What happened?

What happened?

What happened?

Trying so hard not to make chess pros not look like shady basement dwellers

ghulam237 Magnus Carlsen actually has a really active lifestyle.

@@ghulam237 Do you know how much time world class chessplayers spend in the gym

@@ghulam237 Magnus was a literal model

@@Jonmad17 he was most definitely not hes not attractive enough

i would watch the shit out of a collab

That's hot. They should totally do something together.

I hope charlie sees this, this is awesome!

Has anybody clipped his reaction? would love to see what he said

@@matthewtrebs9738 oh hikaru will get ahold of him I'm sure ;)

Ben finegold is the one who receives the invitation after the bbq has already happened

@@BionikleFG or he's the other uncle stereotype. I feel like he fits that more...

OMFG HE GAVE ME A VIBE THAT I COULDNT PIN POINT AND THIS COMMENT MADE ME REALIZE WHAT IT WAS

@@idoladeus3040 what?

Ben Finegold is right again

as someone would say, "yeah, the truth hurts"

That's actually no diss because the hero nakamura is doing it too 🤷‍♂️

@@Ferdinand-yu4et the difference is Nakamura actually acknowledges that if he were playing another game like Overwatch he wouldn't be any good at it whereas Benj thinks of himself like he's General Patton.

@@Ferdinand-yu4et it is when this guy is on a high horse cuz he thinks he has talent as a board game pro and the video game pros dont

It is as my friend would always say: "Anything sounds stupid if you dumb it down enough." With that, there's no need to bash on what people like to enjoy or do.

Exactley, this is a drama i can get behind

The Hero we needed

When I heard the words chess drama, I had to know more

I posted 17 minutes straight of the best memes I could find! ❤

Ikr, like in high level chess, it's plainly obvious that it's a bit harder to play black than white and the only patch the devs made is having a slightly better chance to win draws if you win more black games over the course of the whole tourney

@@izs6946 well I'm done with this game until they update it and nerf the queen

I'm still waiting for the jester piece dlc

I don't understand what you said.... OMG I'm a grandpa 👴

@@mandragon06 i actually wanna see a mod where the queen gets buffer and now make knight moves xD

I'm just surprised that more people are watching more people play chess, it's mostly really painful and boring. mostly chess relys on you memorizing openings and endgames

@Candy Texture there are people who actually do that?

Mason Jones I got called a fat ass one time while running lol

Mason Jones yeah, it happens a lot to people wanting to change so they begin to change. People are very envious so they just trynna get attention

@@brugafe People are assholes and retarded enough not to even realize they feel so bad about themselves that they have to hate on others, keep doing what u do man. Everyone sensible would cheer you on if you decided to make a change in your life for what you feel is the better!

@@m450nj0n5 well more and more retards are trying to make obesity a normal thing and ive seen fat women shame skinny normal women lmao

I heard he was something of an egotistic fraud (Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, etc.)

@@JK-ei7wr you can be an egotistical madman all you want if you have reached a certain level in life

@@JK-ei7wr That was complete bullshit. I absolutely love Tarantino's movies but that was a shameful portrayal of Bruce Lee. He was the complete opposite of that; anything but egotistical or a fraud

@@IamSuperEffective Bruce Lee is my idol, and I'm a huge fan of him. I've watched every single one of his movies, and I own a couple of his books. I don't think Once Upon a Time was a crime. They were putting some lighthearted humor into the memory of a legend. It wasn't meant to be a historical documentation (as seen by the fact that the ending was the opposite of what actually happened), and I'm not gonna be a snob and interpret the meaning of the scene like some overpaid art critic, I don't know what the meaning of the scene was. I just know it was not meant to be taken seriously. I mean, Quentin Tarantino hasn't tackled many historical events with factual documentation (Inglorious Basterds, anyone?). I think Quentin, who is obviously a huge fan of Bruce Lee, was ripping on his idol a little bit. Joking at his expense. I know a lot of people shun that idea, especially now. "Oh, I'm Christian so you can't make jokes about god". "I'm a Bruce Lee fan, so you can't make a scene where Bruce Lee gets his ass whooped", that's the exact gatekeeping Critikal is talking about in this video. Maybe, hear me out, Quentin JUST wanted to stir up a healthy dose of controversy for the fun of it. Don't be a Benjamin

correct me but i dont think you got the whole context? bruce lee went out to teach foreigners martial arts and the Chinese community weren't happy because those foreigners were from the same country that spat on their existence

Bingo, it's a threat to their boy's club

What they need to understand is, that everyone who is involved in chess will benefit from the work Hikaru does! They may start watching his stream, when he's teaching people who are new to chess, but at a certain point, they will also watch out for other streamers, youtube-channels, etc.

@@raz1572 Not really a boy's club if they gatekeep everyone.

@@raz1572 Not really a boy's club if they gatekeep everyone.

nah it takes to long to get decent at chess, best to learn young, it is physically painful to watch some of the pogchamp games. It's great that they are learning but if that grumpy guy saw the 6 move mate it would really make his confirmation bias kick in. That being said as someone who used to play chess at a decent level, i love seeing new people get into it.

exactly??? it fucking boggles my mind how they can think someone can be good at it after like a month of playing when they themselves have been playing it for literal fucking DECADES

To be honest people like magnus and hikaru were never really beginners like you or I were

@@chickendumpling9595 They where, they just had the advantage of starting chess really early in their life, so they grew up with it.

@@chickendumpling9595 Yes, they were. Everyone is. It's just that they didn't get distracted and worked relentlessly. Hikaru himself rightly plays down the 'talent' argument. So much of it is down to the effort you put in.

I know the feeling. I hate elitism. People think because they are pros suddenly they've gain the right to look down on others. I'm like we were all newbs once. Elitism ruins games for others and shrinks a community until it becomes a toxic cesspool.

What uncle?

thought i was the only one who listened to charlie and rogan haha, i completely agree

can you link that please?

Trevor OFarrell kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9B2nrN82rebpYk.html pretty sure thats it

@@colbyreeves1178 I mean, JRE's the world's most popular podcast, and Charlie's got a pretty big YT channel with a big Twitch following, it's really not that crazy...

people project insecurity

At Chess? 100%. lol

Chess boxing

Flip 😂

What is a "Goku"?

@@fps8786 G.O.K.U. Golfing On Kentucky Urinals

correct me if im wrong but isnt he arguing that the face of the game should be someone thats good at the game and not just someone super popular like how most viewed "chess" channel rn is ludwig even though hes not really showing the full beauty of the game? i just want to understand this a bit better and im very confused

I mean theres a lot of gms stronger than him who are also not popular This is just stupid

@@ajj2392 sure but we can say that gms probably can show off the game a lot better then a 1000 rated player right?

its like people preferring to watch pokimane over bugha because of her looks

@@lemeow8102 if gm benjamin can present the game better than say ludwig or xqc, than why arent more people watching him? its not like its a lot of fun to be ridiculed because you aren't as good at something than someone else. just let people play it and let people watch who they want to watch.

😂

And killing horses

I don't like chess. Too much cheating and doping.

amen.

Chess is my favorite strand type game

Thats actually a really interesting take and i never thought of it like that. Gate keeping comes from insecurities mostly so it makes total sense

gym bros are some of my favorite people lol.

It's really odd now that you mention it. Gym bros are a helpful bunch if you show that you're dedicated and throw in the hours.

@Sock Account someone has no friends I see. you don't have to play with people you don't like even if they play the same game. you can have your own friends and they can have theirs but not letting someone play the same game as you because they aren't someone you like is even below the basic tolerance skills of a toddler, so I'm pretty sure it's people like you that bombard communities with degeneracy.

​@@madcityy269 i used to be a gym bro. we loved teaching and helping new people get stronger. because everyone needs to exercise to be healthy. its always fun to have someone up under your wing until theyre good on their own. everyone loves to see others succeed except for the incredibly insecure.

@Gabriele bruh it's a huge deal he was going to block Hansen's source of income

@Gabriele how is it not a big deal?One more strike and one of the biggest channels of chess on yt rn gets terminated.It is actually a pretty big deal when someone's financial source is literally at stake because of naka's toxicity.

He's never going to say anything about this.

doesnt excuse that behavior. finegold used to be a great content creator and streamer but fuck he has backslid into this whiny loser that sees any mildly offensive joke as this terrible breach of humanity. you can tell if you watch his content now that he just simply can't get over the fact that trump is president and it shows so much. he whines about it at least once every five minutes in his videos (which are chess oriented, not political, so it doesnt make sense)

It's kind of understandable. It's a relatively small audience and to have less experienced newcomers drawing views via their established brand rather than skill is probably very frustrating for someone who has dedicated their life to it. That said, he could take advantage of the new eyes they are bringing to the game and benefit from it as well.

Lupo Zen yea I wasn’t trying to defend him or anything. Just stating what their mindset might be or why they’re like this. I don’t think the elitism and hostility toward newcomers is okay at all.

Lupo Zen Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing. These people became so infuriated with Trump’s election that they now eat, sleep, and breath Anti-Trump. It becomes their whole identity 24/7 to the point where it starts to effect their relationships and even morals.

I think arrogance plays a big part

Yeah, like anyone with a brain is gonna trust a review paid for and advertised by the manufacturer

Exactly, another one is we design electric bike that .......

"I'm excited, let's check this out" his face: :|

I really like the build.

Bruhhh

he has been streaming but hes streaming his b6 pawn

Being racist

Well Benny. I think you should be more worried about a certain Big Iron wielding Courier that Ive heard is on their way to New Vegas...

SecularDogma You are entirely delusional.

@@hellzpower90 shut up, shlomo

T H R O B B I N G

Someone needs to rethink his stance on chess elitism

THROBBING

THROBBING

*THROBBING*

@pepega clapper Bruh that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

@pepega clapper bruh lmao you don’t have any recent info when u say that lmao

Nah he deserved it

@@quackster8295 great name but you don’t know what you’re talking bout

@@thunder7433 Ben just came across as a selfish a**hole insulting xQc for no reason and gatekeeping chess. People are allowed to play chess even if they're bad like xQc and Ben conducted himself horribly, so he deserved to be ganged up on by critikal

Most of us were back then. We did not know the background

@@Kimdk87 "Most" is the issue and highlights the dangers of the cultish followings on the internet. It's embarrassing chess.com commented on this video without defending Ben.

@@Kimdk87 what happened ?

@@bullykojima3232 Hikaru and Chessbae ( The woman who runs his stream and several other) have been exposed. Hikaru acting horrific and copystriking other channels and Chessbae abusing female streamers just to name some. Check the chess reddit for all the answers.

@@Kimdk87 You didn't bother looking anything up and took Charlie's words for the whole truth. Some were trying to correct this very twisted view of Ben and others since they'd followed the scene for years, but was largely ignored. Cultish following and lack of critical thinking (likely a lot of youngsters) were central in fueling this.

@Justin Nowaczynski your going to jail for being slightly worse than this random guy

I play golf :/ No gatekeeping here tho play golf if you wanna or don’t idgaf

Happy Gilmore was right!!!!

Oh god golf. I played golf for a couple years and i thought i was so bad but it was pretty fun.

I feel like its “old people” things that deal with elitism

But can't anybody with money can play golf

What?

@@cogcog5264 he is talking about the recent drama with hikaru and chessbrah

@@khattab5351 what happened

@@cogcog5264 In case you didn't look it up, I'll try to explain it to you. GM Hikaru Nakamura and GM Eric Hansen of the Chessbrah KZfaq channel were playing a game online. Eric Hansen proceeded to flag Hikaru whereupon Hikaru flew into a rant of "I don't care, I literally don't care." Soon after this, Chessbrah was hit with a copystrike from Hikaru's channel. The copystrikes were done manually, meaning that it was someone from Hikaru's team who sent these strikes. This was his second. If he was hit with a third, Chessbrah would be deleted. Note that Chessbrah was the way that GM Hansen makes his income. This is obviously shitty behavior for someone like Hikaru, to potentially hurt someone's ability to support themselves over some petty grudge. Eventually, other grandmasters come out, supporting Hansen and saying that Hikaru is pretty unsportsmanlike. Basically, it was absolutely massive drama and Charlie ignored it.

@@jacoblebold8462 this happen before or after this video came out?

To be fair, xqc's chat average iq is astounding. Sometimes they can be very smart.... sometimes

Unoriginal Copy they have to have a high iq to understand what xqc is saying

This comment aged well 🤣

Until June 9th

Until June 9th came

It's super weird since Benjamin has always been a big streamer similar to Hikaru, was well known within the community etc. I guess he's just salty about Hikarus recent soar

@@oxey_ ding ding ding. That is the real issue, he's getting more cloat than he is.

@@oxey_ Well, Benjamin is mostly known for being an ass, so he's probably salty that Hikaru can pull in all of his views with a purely positive mindset.

Chess has always had this sort of culture. The people who play chess and think they are good at it think that they should get to choose who is "worthy" to play the game. Since people who are good at chess are seen as highly intelligent people their ego can get ahead of them quite a bit over time. They see some people and don't believe that they could even be smart enough to ever be good at anything let alone chess.

@@oxey_ thats exactly it

I'm glad people are revisiting this video almost a year on and correcting Charlie on what was a really bad take on his part

He is funny only after chess got popular because he's adjusting to new people which is us. This was like before or during chess got popular and his comment to it was definitely wrong and in no way funny. Also Hikaru was being true here, he wanted to bring chess to us, so we should still be thankful for him for that even if he had drama with Eric. He made pogchamps, the one that we remember charlie and xqc. The drama was different true side of Hikaru but that doesn't change the fact that he made chess popular.

@@kvfk8917 Hikaru is literally only doing these things to grow his channel and get more twitch money. Chess doesn't pay well unless you regularly win big tournaments, which Hikaru, despite his claims at being the best, actually has a lot of trouble with, so twitch has become his new source of income. He deserves no praise here after everything that has come to light about him.

@@kvfk8917 "He's funny only after chess got popular" realest statement ever cause chess got popular in the early 19th century

@@Frank_Lee_Terrible Know your history before you talk, you only joined chess because of it's recent popularity. Chess became number 1 in twitch because of Hikaru and all this chess spike from the pandemic was because of Hikaru teaming up with xqc.

Now he is getting way more less with the crap he pulled off

typical jew, its on bens last name

@@09052010boo Oh it's a meaningless date, nvm. September 5th 2010. Even better. Out you go

Dude yes

@[_deleted_] what are you even talking bout

It all changed when the gnome nation attacked.

[_deleted_] It's not because of the playercount, it's how many generated chunks there are.

@[_deleted_] Bruh wtf are you even on about? Have you even read the comment before typing this mess trying to look knowledgeable when it's really just common shit? Crackheads i swear...

@Gabriele ??

Ben Finegold is actually the most entertaining chess teacher/lecturer. Ironically the best lecturer to watch for casual players imo because his forwardness brings a bit of personality to the analysis

Ben Finegold is actually a really interesting chess player if you also watch his vids you would realize 90 percent of what he says is sarcastic

This entire situation makes me feel bad. First I was happy and excited Hikaru broke into the gaming community with the increased viewership. Thought and still think this can do amazing things for chess and create opportunities for many chess streamers that wasn’t there previously. Then I started to get annoyed at Hikaru and his mods pandering to the gaming community and their spamming of immature memes(rendering chat completely useless). Then I got really annoyed when a bunch of two week old chess fans started meme’ing towards Magnus and talking all this trash that Hikaru was going to beat him and all that unoriginal/redundant malding silliness/cringe. Then things kinda came full circle today, after Magnus beat hikaru 3-0, Hikaru’s chat was trying to get him to see Magnus’ monkaS tweet he sent out when it was 2-0, Hikaru had an idea he wouldn’t like to see it and refused to check it out after a frustrating day of chess. Then chat seemed to convince him it was in response to Hikaru’s earlier tweet that day wishing Magnus good luck and Magnus interpreted Hikaru’s tweet as trolling, which is completely false). Hikaru said something along the lines of, “how is wishing your opponent good luck trolling?!?.. we were suppose to tweet about the event(I guess referencing part of the contract signed for this tournament).” It was in this moment I felt bad and remembered I’m a fan of Hikaru’s and felt like a jerk for picking sides against him even though it was his chat I was mostly annoyed at. All this drama was so unnecessary.

Also I would like to second/support what people are saying about Hikaru being a toxic elitist jerk in the past. Literally not even a year ago he was criticizing botez for commentating/analyzing his games saying something along the lines of lower rated players have no business analyzing the games/moves of super GMs. Hikaru was also criticized during the puzzle battle world championship for diminishing the accomplishments of those who beat him cause they weren’t real chess puzzles but silly memorization exercises. I think the people questioning his motives and the rhetoric of “growing chess” are justified(? Not sure if that’s the right word but hopefully you get what I’m saying). Another chat user said that this question of elitism in chess is essentially chessbae(notable mod) propaganda. I’d have to agree to that to an extent.

jason woods Lol, what? Hikaru still plays in top Rapid and Blitz tournaments. He’s still no. 1 in the World in Blitz, and I’m pretty sure his drop in Classical rating was due to him focusing on KZfaq and Twitch - not the other way around. I get that Hikaru wasn’t the most likeable character, but he’s definitely improved a lot much like Carlsen.

Ben teaches chess for a living. He owns a successful chess club in Atlanta, and he has hundreds of lectures available on the internet. This presumption that Ben despises new chess players is nonsense. I got introduced to chess by Ben’s videos, and it pains me to see him get this hate.

No one cares about Ben

Skrealder lord dude Ben is a jealous boomer

I agree with what Skrealder lord dude said, I'm quite confident that Ben does realize this. As to his other sentiments, I don't really agree with them, but I see where he's coming from. The modern idea of just aligning yourself with one side rather than being able to see a balanced perspective is so bullshit and is what causes a lot of this crap on the internet.

Ben's part of the tribe, so the love of money dictates his current morality. If giving lessons brings him the moolah, he's all for new players joining the game. If other grandmasters find a more effective way of monetizing their skill, he gets jealous and tries to drag them down. It's like an instinct to those people, you can't really get mad at Ben. It's like getting mad at a dog for eating a sausage that's been left on the table. He can't help it, it's his nature.

aged like a fine wine gold

PREACH IT BROTHER FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES

Finally

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@@themediocrehunter4152 lessgo finegold enjoyers

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*known But I get what you mean.

Typical Linux wannabe lol

pretty much

Yeah there’s some beef in the chess community I can tell u LOL sub to my channel for chess yo

@Bob Bob I died at the 'vomits' part

"500iq"

I think it's jealousy, Hikaru became the face of Chess on twitch and that's hard to swallow when you dedicated your entire life to it.

To become a grandmaster you don't have to be intelligent, all you need is a tremendous amount of discipline, a lot of practice against other strong players, work on your memory, work on your nerves and general competitive assets, and many, many years of hard work, but not intelligence or talent. To be top 10 though, that requires some pretty amazingly good traits like nerves of steel, huge energy and motivation, good memory, and a lot of talent, that don't equate to intelligence. Garry Kasparov once talked about this so you can look it up if you wanna go deeper on this. In the interview he said: "My talent is that I can work harder than the rest"

@@DavidMartinez-ip1dr that's just not true that you don't have to be intelligent to be a GM. You have to be smart and intelligent, but not 500 IQ (meaning realistically like 140-160 IQ).

I like Ben, he literally got me into chess and he seems incredibly genuine and does a lot for the game with his teaching, videos, etc.. But there's a reason he apologized for those remarks. There's literally no problem with playing chess with internet celebrities to get more people into the game. As a frequent watcher of Ben, I don't think he was joking there, and would probably have said so in his apology if he was. Now cr1tikal was really overly harsh here but just because Hikaru is apparently (?) not nice [edit: HE FIGHTS PEOPLE???] doesn't mean he hasn't done a few things that are good or at least fine.

An apology... for what?

@@sams7068 Ben said those things because he absolutely hates Hikaru, for many valid reasons, just like all of the other top chess players hate Hikaru. It goes a lot further than him starting fights with people, he's just a shitty and toxic person in general, which wouldn't be too out of the ordinary if he would ever actually own up to it. He's the last person who should be the face of chess for all of these new players, and I've no doubt he doesn't give a shit about growing the game and only cares about twitch $. Ben's comments on Xqc might have been unwarranted (though I can see how he might have gotten a bad impression if he watched an Xqc stream, he and his chat are insufferable), but the only reason he made the comments at all is because it was Hikaru blowing up, if it had been the Botez sisters or Eric Rosen or Magnus or basically any other chess player, Ben wouldn't have given a shit.

@@polygondeath2361 for sending an army of children to send death threats to an innocent person.

@@sirtsregris9040 if you watched the video he says and always says not to go harass people, so you're wrong. Also the man isnt innocent

Good one boomer

It's funny because he looks a little like Jesus. Funny meme

@@uzimegaman460 Maybe we can make joke about that

@@anti-spiral159 youre onto something here

Thank Christ