Chigorin Defense Middlegames - GM Ben Finegold - 2015.10.13

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

8 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Ben Finegold shows games where he met the Queen's Gambit with the Chigorin Defense. Memorize the opening and take a look at the middlegames.
Adam Lief vs. Ben Finegold, 1987: D07 Queen's Gambit Declined, Chigorin defence
Dharma Tjiam vs. Finegold, 1991: D07 Queen's Gambit Declined, Chigorin defence
Steven Feldman vs. Finegold, 1992: D07 Queen's Gambit Declined, Chigorin defence
Salvijus Bercys vs. Finegold, 2006: D07 Queen's Gambit Declined, Chigorin defence
Valery Loginov vs. Petr Tishin, 2002: D02 Queen's pawn game, Chigorin variation

Пікірлер: 166
@missjessgem
@missjessgem 8 жыл бұрын
at 25:35, when Ben asks what move was played, I immediately said "Resign" to myself and Ben responded with "Don't say resign.".
@Sakurei1
@Sakurei1 8 жыл бұрын
+Jessica Crawford Me too. Felt silly afterwards
@KOjukhov
@KOjukhov 8 жыл бұрын
+Jessica Crawford yeah me too) And then i laugh for a minute)
@BBEros
@BBEros 8 жыл бұрын
+Rust Doper No , come on, It was good. But the part " If Im helping you you are really in... " JAJAJJAA this guy is so good cos he is good at teaching and he makes it so much more fun...
@R3DI5C00L
@R3DI5C00L 8 жыл бұрын
+Jessica Crawford when Ben asked about a particular year in the beginning of the vid I said "eighty something" out loud, only to hear the same thing said a second later lol. It happens often with Ben's lectures
@benstannard3574
@benstannard3574 8 жыл бұрын
This guy is a legend. I would watch him for his humour even if I didn't play chess!
@dusty7644
@dusty7644 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Stannard I get it :D
@guts2044
@guts2044 4 жыл бұрын
Ur lame
@abhi_shek1196
@abhi_shek1196 2 жыл бұрын
@@guts2044 no u
@doofus9575
@doofus9575 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe Ken West should sue Ben for public defamation. The court case would be hilarious
@Sphere723
@Sphere723 7 жыл бұрын
Defamation has to involve lies.
@doofus9575
@doofus9575 7 жыл бұрын
Sphere723 Ben lies that he is a grandmaster!
@Brusselpicker
@Brusselpicker 5 жыл бұрын
"GM" Ken West.
@DrunkHoonigan
@DrunkHoonigan 8 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! Ben is the best. Give him a raise!
@SteveRunciman
@SteveRunciman 8 жыл бұрын
+DrunkHoonigan The chess club should have taken your advice. Ben has left for North Carolina and we'll never see another of his videos again!!!
@iDeathSparky
@iDeathSparky 7 жыл бұрын
Incorrect!
@MehfoosYacoob
@MehfoosYacoob 8 жыл бұрын
Man I never thought watching chess videos would be this entertaining. Thanks, Ben! You're the gateway drug to the rest of the chess club's videos (I like them more after watching Ben)
@Dooban
@Dooban 8 жыл бұрын
Cool of you to reference us in the video! Once again, your lectures always bring a smile to my face.
@Sakurei1
@Sakurei1 8 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy that GM Finegold rates my skill so highly. Sorry, but by move 10, I made at least 13 mistakes already. I'm not very good at this whole chess thing. But I appreciate the confidence! I totally believe you in regards to Belgium and the Netherlands moving, don't worry. Very convincing there.
@VulpineShine
@VulpineShine 8 жыл бұрын
He gave us credit for rotating the board and setting up the pieces correctly. We must be getting better.
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about chess is that, if you think about it, multiple things can go wrong with just one mistake. This, is it one mistake, or is it multiple?
@thatchessguy7072
@thatchessguy7072 3 жыл бұрын
gxtmfa If you blunder a pawn and blunder check mate in one, your opponent will take the pawn but that’s beside the point.
@augustsbautra
@augustsbautra 8 жыл бұрын
Best lecture yet. That export messup at 17:00, priceless.
@PazuChill
@PazuChill 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand any of this, but I can't stop watching.
@johnstephen399
@johnstephen399 7 жыл бұрын
"It's obvious to even the most dim-witted individual...with an advanced degree in hyperbolic topology..."' lol
@lellosbarello90
@lellosbarello90 3 жыл бұрын
It's a Futurama quote i think
@DiDanilo
@DiDanilo Жыл бұрын
What an instructor he is. He teach the way the young get never bored I sware.
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 8 жыл бұрын
Yay, Ben reads our comments!! BEN, *THANK YOU* FOR ALL THE LECTURES, AND FOR BEING 110% AWESOME! I can even forgive you for making fun of Vishy! xD I'd love to attend the lectures, but I'm not in the right continent for that. I've also lived in Belgium for a little bit, though :D Now, this particular lecture was as informative and as entertaining as expected - and got me interested in an opening I've never played. Nice!
@RaloARG
@RaloARG 8 жыл бұрын
ben, im from argentina, i just love your way of teaching, your humor, and everything. Im even considering going to ST louis to learn chess. thanks for everything
@BBEros
@BBEros 8 жыл бұрын
+Ramon Israelit Ufff buen plan. Este man es MUY divertido... La parte de " cuando te ayudo yo es por que ... " es increible .... Hace mirar estos videos el doble de bueno... Estaria buenisimo ir alla cuando este este man ...
@elbay2
@elbay2 8 жыл бұрын
That was one of his funniest videos, well done! Strange opening too, no? I guess it's the surprise factor that probably throws some people off..
@Busenberv
@Busenberv 7 жыл бұрын
Ben's lectures are terrible, incorrect, very suspicious and a little iffy, all approved by Ken West with advantage!
@benselectionforcasting4172
@benselectionforcasting4172 7 жыл бұрын
SOLID!
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe he should do what the French do and give up...
@Orkgrunzer
@Orkgrunzer 7 жыл бұрын
I hate it when that happens
@benselectionforcasting4172
@benselectionforcasting4172 7 жыл бұрын
Nerzhul I mean I like it when I'm white and that happens
@Hennyandginger
@Hennyandginger 5 жыл бұрын
arsenalfanrichi you mean retreat
@emmanueltorres7917
@emmanueltorres7917 7 жыл бұрын
Don't ever stop making videos. You teach great chess and you're a funny guy. I'm rated over 1800 in blitz, which is good, but I still have so much more to learn. And I can watch one of your videos more than once, because I know that I will not catch everything the first time around, in fact, I don't think I'll ever catch everything. Keep going, you're great!
@jackanderson719
@jackanderson719 3 жыл бұрын
The games that you showed in this video have inspired me to start playing this opening.
@Liltrom1
@Liltrom1 8 жыл бұрын
Hit "4" repeatedly for Ben to lay the smackdown.
@santiagoproano5863
@santiagoproano5863 4 жыл бұрын
lol Awesome!
@majesticwizardcat
@majesticwizardcat 8 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching this guy !
@beckyv1408
@beckyv1408 7 жыл бұрын
"You're the best player in your chair." 43:30
@nicolasdubreuil8746
@nicolasdubreuil8746 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ben great thank to you, I beat my first GM last sunday with Chigorin thanks to you!
@atulnemlekar9539
@atulnemlekar9539 8 жыл бұрын
Great Lecture!!!
@pgoedde
@pgoedde 8 жыл бұрын
great lecture !, as always
@AndrewIsbell
@AndrewIsbell 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben
@jasbirsendang2600
@jasbirsendang2600 3 жыл бұрын
GM"s exciting & veryvery good teaching
@HermanHeffner
@HermanHeffner 8 жыл бұрын
i loved hearing ben laugh lol
@TheNuncFluens
@TheNuncFluens 8 жыл бұрын
We need more Ben.
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 4 жыл бұрын
Still pretty amazing to think Smyslov made it that far into the candidates tournament in the 80s
@flippert0
@flippert0 8 жыл бұрын
I like Ben's lectures for beginners but not his advanced classes. He often shows just his own favourite lines omitting more general lunes or the best defense (or attack) lines of the opponent.
@natebrennan3239
@natebrennan3239 8 жыл бұрын
When ever I listen to Ben while playing chess, I win. On the other hand, i''m pretty bad when i don't. Is he done giving lectures?? I love this guy!
@benoist13
@benoist13 7 жыл бұрын
As a frenchman, i enjoy your jokes ! (well, only those that i understand ...)
@andrewb1830
@andrewb1830 8 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! My teacher told me he faced you and you destroyed him XD. Continue the great work!
@Jimmyhendrixrules
@Jimmyhendrixrules 8 жыл бұрын
Give this man a raise
@canektirici
@canektirici 8 жыл бұрын
because I watch ben finegold lectures to sleep recently I started hearing random "attacks the queen again, yummy yummy yummy, attacks the queen again.." voices in my dreams lol
@postnubilaphoebus96
@postnubilaphoebus96 8 жыл бұрын
Hi St. Louis Chess Club. You once had a series where people could ask questions about opening problems they have. I do have one as well in the Semi-Slav (with black) and would be interested in a GM helping me out. Is it possible to get included in a future video or can I donate to the chess club in order to be? Thx in advance
@weeddagr8988
@weeddagr8988 5 жыл бұрын
postnubilaphoebus96 no fack u
@hugorneto
@hugorneto 8 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold is the Don Rickles of chess. He'll insult you, but you'll love it!
@CrystalSergeant
@CrystalSergeant 8 жыл бұрын
this guy, sooo amazing. was this intro spontaneously? or prepared haha. he should do some standup for other topics as well :P
@manmoth_1990
@manmoth_1990 8 жыл бұрын
At 9:10, my stockfish at depth 25 said 0.65 for white. At depth 29 it said 0.32 and it's stays confused at that evaluation through to depth 40. Interesting position.
@liberatesweden2404
@liberatesweden2404 4 жыл бұрын
Mm! I love the E4 E5 opening! 🤔 So explosive. 🙈
@jobinnelson
@jobinnelson 6 жыл бұрын
Ben... U r great
@BBEros
@BBEros 8 жыл бұрын
Maaaannnn you should make a video every 2 days. And in your channel , if we cant see you its not the same. Man you are the one that is funny and makes a chess lecture so much more fun. You should do what matojelic does with this same system . I dont know if jokes would work without a crowd that much . But show your face in your own channel you are the best part .
@dominigai4717
@dominigai4717 8 жыл бұрын
Ben if you read this THANK YOU. I would love to meet you and study with you. My 3rd favorite GM
@zonza73
@zonza73 5 жыл бұрын
At 25:00, wouldn't Queen check force the king to move, then take bishop wouldn't let the opponent promote to queen at all?
@marcinzygmunt2901
@marcinzygmunt2901 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please write here what Ben says in 3:27?
@frazexg9457
@frazexg9457 4 жыл бұрын
Ben is a legend
@SebastianBriceno
@SebastianBriceno 7 жыл бұрын
You with some crazy comment!
@tinytim8173
@tinytim8173 5 жыл бұрын
Knight f8 can't do mate even when you're king is on b5?
@ludogi4210
@ludogi4210 8 жыл бұрын
i would like to come, but a bit far ^^TY ben
@SDSMint
@SDSMint 8 жыл бұрын
i keep wondering, what does checkmate "with advantage" mean? what does advantage or disadvantage matter when the game is over?
@cwjalexx
@cwjalexx 8 жыл бұрын
+SDSMint keep wondering, seems like you're on the right track to figuring it out. ++ spoiler++ it's a joke
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 8 жыл бұрын
+SDSMint Nothing. It's the obvious advantage beacuse the game is over. So he is joking.
@cyxFrag
@cyxFrag 8 жыл бұрын
You, with some crazy comment !
@tomzhangg
@tomzhangg 6 жыл бұрын
What even is “hyperbolic topology” oh wait I just found out
@Megahax1337
@Megahax1337 8 жыл бұрын
You're really funny ben. Honestly... it is in the way, that probably not so many get or like (i dont know), but i totally get it. Its hilarious... In the beginning i thought you were just another annoying american (im from Europe, Larsenland), but after watching just one of your lectures i was hook. You're hilarious - also because when you make a joke and ppl dont respond ur like "no? okay" and then you just continue. Keep going. Im not gonna tell you 'dont change', cuz even the magician from Riga could never change you, im sure.
@TheVishwas123
@TheVishwas123 7 жыл бұрын
can anybody tell me, Where I went in the following moves: 1. d4-d5 2.c4-Nc6 3.Nc3-Nf6 4.Bg5-dc4 5.e3-e5 6.de5-Q*Q 7.Rd1-Ne5 8.B*N-g*B 9.f4-Ng4 10.Nd5- Black's Position is bad ........ Where did I Go Wrong?
@thebluedragon777
@thebluedragon777 7 жыл бұрын
TheVishwas123 first, you accepted the gambit. Expect to be punished for that, lol. More importantly, it looks like you started an attack with zero development or preparation. Of course, that's just my amateur opinion...
@baksteen123
@baksteen123 8 жыл бұрын
What does Ben say at 9:14 'white has the wrong colored rook.......' ?
@lolpwner123
@lolpwner123 8 жыл бұрын
+baksteen123 wrong colored rook pawn - referring to the fact that on the square on which the pawn should promote is opposite colour to the bishop
@ViniciusGuitarGuy
@ViniciusGuitarGuy 8 жыл бұрын
32:14 Because I live 7449.7 kilometers from St. Louis, Ben.
@THRWOW
@THRWOW 7 жыл бұрын
5:34 you can hear an "okay" supposed to be edited out. Saint Louis editing out Finegold? Terrible!
@robertbradley2420
@robertbradley2420 6 жыл бұрын
Ten Seinfeld episodes worth of humor here. Ben's a comic genius.
@kelly980
@kelly980 8 жыл бұрын
35:03, why not black f5?
@AfonsoPPereira
@AfonsoPPereira 8 жыл бұрын
+Dent Yeah i thought that would win a piece
@harrellt1405
@harrellt1405 8 жыл бұрын
I can already c akobian saying "bishop pair " xD
@JudgeHolden13
@JudgeHolden13 4 жыл бұрын
Suspicious
@Evilanious
@Evilanious 3 жыл бұрын
"Queen d7, the only move to hang mate in one." Audience member: "What about king b8."
@mikeweiss8453
@mikeweiss8453 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect Simpsons reference Ben. He's probably reading this right?
@Runescape9212
@Runescape9212 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't checkmate an automatic advantage for you considering you won?
@DaClintBeastWood
@DaClintBeastWood 8 жыл бұрын
+Damion Gilstrap That's the joke
@muskaka1268
@muskaka1268 8 жыл бұрын
i like him
@crepo2000
@crepo2000 8 жыл бұрын
pause the video at 14:25
@andrewmurray8461
@andrewmurray8461 8 жыл бұрын
Another great lecture from foolsgold
@dreamdamons4576
@dreamdamons4576 7 жыл бұрын
yes yes. love love love from Iran
@Ninnoa
@Ninnoa 8 жыл бұрын
Ben have you ever had a chance to meet Bobby Fischer and if so tell us story about it in one of your lectures, if it there is anything interesting in it?
@yahianad
@yahianad 5 жыл бұрын
I will play Chigorin all time against Queen's gambit. Also I play Rd6 and sacrifice one knight against 2 Bishops.
@burakilhan4925
@burakilhan4925 8 жыл бұрын
loooool even when Ken west isnt there he gets made fun of. Great stuff.
@excalibirb9204
@excalibirb9204 5 жыл бұрын
Who tf is Ken West
@minimalistic_banhaus
@minimalistic_banhaus 4 жыл бұрын
I would have made 10 mistakes by move 10 but I couldn't find the board.
@infinitysalinity7981
@infinitysalinity7981 6 жыл бұрын
What happened to ben's lower teeth
@pijusgreicius7025
@pijusgreicius7025 4 жыл бұрын
Ben says RAAAAAWRRR
@bmwshop123
@bmwshop123 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is, when you push all of your pawns, your opponent might take them (!)
@randomguy-wz5ud
@randomguy-wz5ud 7 жыл бұрын
15:07 wouldn't it still be a mate?
@nicholashartnett8444
@nicholashartnett8444 5 жыл бұрын
No. Blacks rook has to stay on g8 in order to give checkmate and it's forced to trade because whites rook is checking the King.
@victordeluca7360
@victordeluca7360 5 жыл бұрын
Man, it's hard to mate when you're in check
@Grandcapi
@Grandcapi 8 жыл бұрын
If I had seen this video 3 days ago I would not have lost with White against this Chigorin stuff.
@ArtanisOwns
@ArtanisOwns 7 жыл бұрын
with the rook!
@cameronmetz4125
@cameronmetz4125 8 жыл бұрын
ben finegold is literally jonah hill
@autisticcormorant6881
@autisticcormorant6881 8 жыл бұрын
i was one of those 7 people
@EvilSecondTwin
@EvilSecondTwin 8 жыл бұрын
lol. I love these videos but NEVER get the "Mike Kummer" jokes. Can anyone explain? Are they good friends?
@AndrewIsbell
@AndrewIsbell 8 жыл бұрын
+EvilSecondTwin Search this youtube channel for his name and you will see lectures by him
@EvilSecondTwin
@EvilSecondTwin 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andrew Isabelle. The thing is, I've watched almost all of Ben's videos and NONE of Kummers'….yet. So, basically, I will eventually come across the answer.
@liam314
@liam314 8 жыл бұрын
+EvilSecondTwin Kummer plays simple, principled, dogmatic chess i.e. low rated chess, so Ben is always making fun of him and the kinds of moves Kummer would play i.e. Terrible!! So yea I would say they are good friends
@EvilSecondTwin
@EvilSecondTwin 8 жыл бұрын
liam314 Makes sense. Thank you for the reply. And to be fair, I have watched only 1 MIke Kummer video (so far) and yes, they both have different styles.
@emir2591
@emir2591 7 жыл бұрын
Lol what a legend
@runel7891
@runel7891 7 жыл бұрын
6:37 meow!
@janrieser3865
@janrieser3865 8 жыл бұрын
two bishops are better than two knights, but now i have one knight, haha!
@LexFloyd
@LexFloyd 8 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see f4 at 24:30 forcing the king to retreat. Then you can hope for ...Kd4 to checkmate in the middle of the board :P Terrible, most likely.
@lamb998
@lamb998 8 жыл бұрын
mike gotta change his name...
@mauer1
@mauer1 5 жыл бұрын
I can't come, I'm on the other side of the world
@simsisthecommander
@simsisthecommander 7 жыл бұрын
lol oh shit ben, the cubs won the world series
@filipinaspeopleandculture2786
@filipinaspeopleandculture2786 2 жыл бұрын
GM Ben is not just knowledgeable, he is also very entertaining. A lot of chess tutorial are boring although the topics are very interesting. Not with GM Ben.
@drivenbythewill
@drivenbythewill 8 жыл бұрын
This guy is funny a.f
@Dudeliness
@Dudeliness 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing Ben likes more than Chess is diabetes.
@Guyyyy7445
@Guyyyy7445 3 жыл бұрын
who is julian, he seem to insult him a lot.maybe his favourite😂😂🤣
@atreorey
@atreorey 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, give Gm Finegold a raise, and put him in live comentary, Seriawan is boring and has a funny name. Also Finegold for president of FIDE, no more UFO abductions, thats just terrible.
@BBEros
@BBEros 8 жыл бұрын
+atreorey Jajaja
@egee4210
@egee4210 5 жыл бұрын
11:05
@chrisdvine
@chrisdvine 6 жыл бұрын
The Cubs won!
@danielgajdos368
@danielgajdos368 7 жыл бұрын
e4 is a crazy move in first game.
@davidwillis7991
@davidwillis7991 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't see how to hang mate in one. I'm not as talented as the audience
@griop5
@griop5 8 жыл бұрын
FloepFloep BliebBlieb
@griop5
@griop5 8 жыл бұрын
+griop5 For the intelligence remark. If you didn't get it!
@VictorForysMD
@VictorForysMD 6 жыл бұрын
Skip the first two minutes.
@moneykhan4137
@moneykhan4137 8 жыл бұрын
it's like Bobby Fischer ate Jonah Hill and some Krispy Kreme...
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